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Placage

I'm assuming your the one who so greatly extpanded the plaçage article. I would like to offer my supreme thanks on this. I started it with only a very cursory knowledge of the practice, barely enough to write the article, and now it is a veritable treasure. I myself am a descendent of a Macarty Creole, and I had almost forgotten the fact, cerainly not enough to put it into the article. Thanks so much!

Dlayiga 05:38, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I am. I am not Creole, but I am interested in interracing and was born in New Orleans. I just wonder why I am being tagged for not "verifying sources" when they are in the references section below. It's very hard to please these folks.

gab 03:01, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Wonderful job. I am in awe. I'd love to hear about the novel you are writing...winkwink.

Dlayiga 05:14, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the comments on my talk page

Your prejudice shows big time. You cite that my revisions to this page were not verified, when they are. This is a blatant stab at censorship. Even the links can be verified. You make a slap that I am only citing my point-of-view about certain issues which you never name. Then I see that you have connections to Louisiana politics (the Old Confederacy and the OLD DEAD CAUSE) and possibly Louisiana families. No wonder you want to say that the page is not verified, because you feel anyone talking about crossed bloodlines has an axe to grind. That this kind of thing is still happening, even in the 21st century, makes me think that Wikipedia is not, repeat IS NOT, what it claims to be. That it suppresses history under the guise of being open to everyone. 66.188.129.20 03:52, 24 March 2006 (UTC)(gab)

Hi gab, it seems as though you left these comments on my Talk page at precisely the same time that I was replying to you on Talk:Plaçage. My feeling is that perhaps you misinterpreted my intentions, and perhaps when you read my (long) comment on the talk page, you might feel differently.

But let me say, in addition to what I wrote over there:

1. There is no attempt at censorship. You'll notice that everything you wrote is still available to be seen by any reader of Wikipedia; I removed nothing and I changed nothing in the text. Nothing is being suppressed. I'm simply making stylistic comments about the article as it stands.
2. I'm repeating what I said over there, but let me go ahead and repeat: I think this subject (plaçage, that is) is important for historical reasons, and without question Wikipedia should have an article on this. Moreover, it should be a great article. My intentions are to work towards that. But in any case (and you'll see this more the more time you spend at WP) my opinions really aren't that important here; what is important is the community concensus. All I'm saying is that you shouldn't be worried about one user that is a loose cannon; even if I were someone who simply wanted to make your article disappear, I can't do that. Noone can. It would have to go to WP:AfD and be voted on by the community, and approved by many users. In short, this article would never be deleted, because it is prima facie worthy of inclusion as a scholarly topic. (And, for what it's worth, if this article ever did go to be voted for deletion, I'd vote strongly to keep it.)
3. Again, I think you're misreading where I'm coming from with these comments. You can go in my edit histories and note that I have contributed to a wide array of topics here on Wikipedia. If it makes you feel any better, note that I have contributed quite a bit on topics concerning the West Indies; in fact I've created the majority of the player pages on List of West Indian Test cricketers. I hope this goes a bit towards convincing you that I have a wide variety of interests here on Wikipedia and I'm not pushing any kind of agenda.
4. In summary, what I want you to do (and what I think you want to do) is to continue to edit Plaçage, and to continue to make it better. Just be careful to be as consistent with the community's guidelines, specifically WP:V, as you can.

All in all, I hope after you read my comments here and on the talk page you see where I'm coming and you're no longer upset about this issue.--Deville (Talk) 05:09, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Responding to Deville

Alright.

By no means is this page on placage complete. I am still trying to find and to clarify material I have listed and written about. (I have found online prints of the St. Philip venue for the quadroon balls, and of Count de Marigny himself, but no portraits or prints of Eugene Macarty or his common-law wife, Eulalie Mandeville, although descendants of their progeny almost certainly exist.)

I do want to make this page the best possible. So far I believe that it is and will be. But to say that it is unverifiable, when books and links are listed below that would prove it...well. Imagine my dismay.

I love history; and above all, I love hidden and proven history. What I write is not hearsay or innuendo.

gab 14:43, 24 March 2006 (UTC)(gab)

Hi, glad to see that we are on the same page and we know where each other is coming from on this.  :-)

I also noticed that you had a copyright violation below on your talk page. It turns out that the picture that you uploaded is fine, it is old enough so that the copyright has passed into the public domain (a good rule of thumb is anything in the Cabildo is public domain). But on Wikipedia you need to be careful about saying this; if you upload pictures with no copyright information, they will eventually be deleted. Wikipedia is pretty careful about copyrights on pictures, because they've been sued a few times, mostly in European jurisdictions, for people uploading pictures they weren't supposed to have. In any case, though, the picture "headdress.gif" is ok now that I have changed the copyright, but in the future be careful that when you upload a picture that you give it the correct copyright information, otherwise it may get deleted. When you upload the picture, be sure to select the "United states public domain" tag. Like I said, a good rule of thumb is that a reproduction of artwork made before 1923 is ok.

As for the plaçage page, I see you've removed the tag, and it's already gotten better since we talked about it. This page could also do with more pictures, you could also link to the one of Marie Leveau. Are there any paintings of quadroon balls? I think such a picture would be set up this section well. Also, if I could make another stylistic suggestion, the intro is a bit long. One has to scroll down to get to the table of contents. I'd suggest just leaving the first paragraph in the introduction, and encapsulate the second through seventh paragraphs in a section called something like "History and development of the Plaçage System". Anyway, good luck with the article. --Deville (Talk) 18:57, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Tignon

Ok. You are, oficially, my favorite person. Merci Beaucoup!Dlayiga 08:55, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

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