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16:18, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Darin Johnson

Darin Johnson was deleted at an AfD with little turnout. The consensus was that he was not notable because he had not played professionally. However, that has changed and he is now a professional basketball player. I request this article to be undeleted because it meets GNG now. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 13:51, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

OK, but it will need some work. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:32, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Paniri

On 2 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Paniri, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that as of 2009, the highest location where crustaceans had been discovered was in the crater lake of Paniri? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Paniri. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Paniri), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Please, restore the article Rodrigo Silva

I have requested the restoration of the article Rodrigo Silva, because it was a very important article about a famous Brazilian archaeologist and was excluded without reasons. The article contained reliable sources, was very well described, there were no spelling errors and followed the standards and norms of Wikipedia. --DavidStarIsrael7 (talk) 18:47, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Well, yes, but these sources either were not independent or mentioned him in passing, as noted in the deletion discussion. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:19, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Now at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2018 April 29. —Cryptic 22:27, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Were added new reliable sources, please check it at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2018 April 29, and restore the article. --DavidStarIsrael7 (talk) 01:16, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
According to that same page, it does not seem like the sources are actually adequate. Please consider the possibility that the topic just can't have an article and that no amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:16, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Independent Music Awards

Hi! Once upon a time you deleted this page. Can I have a copy of the last revision please? Kind regards and thank you. Doc Taxon (talk) 05:08, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Greetings, Doc Taxon. Do you prefer by email or by undeletion. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:44, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
use wikimail please Doc Taxon (talk) 08:02, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
@Doc Taxon: So done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:45, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
I didn't get it, but the mail address in the preferences is okay. Please try it once more. Doc Taxon (talk)
@Doc Taxon: Tried another time. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:19, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
 Y thank you Doc Taxon (talk) 17:30, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

SALT request

You closed The Riott Squad article as redirect. This was the second AfD on the article and in the 3 days since it has already been recreated. Can you lock down the article? Thanks - GalatzTalk 18:19, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Eh, I don't think that one single recreation merits page protection. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:25, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Two sources to apply

Perhaps also Lake Cahuilla. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:54, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

16:28, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

GAN Backlog

Hi Jo JO Eumerus. I am looking to encourage suitable editors to review more articles at WP:GAN. Currently you have 16 nominations awaiting review and as you are probably aware there is a large backlog. This means you and other editors may have to wait months before your articles are reviewed. According to User:GA bot/Stats you have reviewed 9 articles and your user page shows 33 passed good articles. This suggests that you are familiar with the criteria and able to contribute more reviews. Without editors reviewing articles the process falls apart. If you need some help with reviewing feel free to ask me or leave a note at the help desk. Regards AIRcorn (talk) 11:45, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Help us design granular blocks!

Hello :-) The Anti-Harassment Tools team at the Wikimedia Foundation will start building these granular blocking tools in a few weeks and we've asked WMF designer Alex Hollender to help us make some wireframes so the tools are intuitive to MediaWiki users.

We have a first draft of how we think this tool should work. You can read the full proposed implementation here but here are the significant parts:

  • Granular blocks (page, category, namespace, and file uploading) will be built on top of Special:Block. These blocks will function as if they were regular blocks and allow for the same options, but only take effect on specific pages.
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File:NGS Honorable Mention Award to THFFI.jpg Deletion

You recommended deletion of this file. I responded with the reasons why it should not be deleted but you seem to have never seen my response. At least, you never reacted to my response.

Charles C. Morgan (me) is a member of the Board and the Treasurer The Hungerford Family Foundation, Inc. (THFFI). I am also the editor of The Hungerford World Tree, the Newsletter that was given the award by the National Genealogical Association (NGS).

The image that was deleted is a scan done by Charles C. Morgan (me) of the certificate given to THFFI by NGS as the winner of the NGS 2017 Family Association Newsletter Competition. As stated above, Charles C. Morgan is a Member of the Board and Treasurer of THFFI as well as the editor of the THFFI Newsletter that was given the award. Having been given to THFFI by NGS, both the certificate itself and the scanned image of that certificate are owned by THFFI and, consequently, THFFI is the copyright owner of both the certificate and the image. Charles C. Morgan, as an officer and Member of the Board of THFFI, has granted permission for use of this image on Wikipedia. Charles C. Morgan has the authority to grant that permission.

FYI, I am an attorney and have a good understanding of Intellectual Property law, including Copyright law and the facts regarding ownership rights underlying a claim to a copyright. THFFI has a rightful, unambiguous claim to the copyright of this image since the certificate was given to (transferred to, donated to, relinquished to, granted to, delivered to) THFFI without any reservation of rights by the NGS. Charles C. Morgan scanned the certificate. As an officer and member of the Board with authority to act on behalf of THFFI, Charles C. Morgan had the power to vest copyright ownership of the image in THFFI.

The NGS press release announcing the granting of the award to THFFI can be seen at this link: <href>https://www.ngsgenealogy.org/galleries/press/AWARDSOpeningSessPRFINAL210MAY2017.pdf</href>

Please undelete this image at your early convenience and authorize its use on my draft article about THFFI.

Charlie (talk) 15:36, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

@Cochituate: Well, we need proof that NGS gave the copyright to THFFI, not just an assertion. You need to confirm the ownership of the file copyright to WP:OTRS, preferably through an official e-mail. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:47, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Well, as a lawyer, I KNOW that what you are saying is absolutely incorrect. You clearly have no clue about ownership rights under facts like this. Requiring me to obtain an email from NGS amounts to harassment and is imposing inappropriate administrative burdens on me and NGS. I will go get that email and try to figure out how to get it to you, but please go do some research on copyright ownership and become educated on the subject. Charlie (talk) 16:07, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

I received the following from NGS this evening:

Charlie,

I received it and have been checking into this. There is not a copyright on the certificate. The certificate is not something that we would go to the trouble and expense to copyright. If we did that we would have to do that for each certificate and could not afford the cost. If you need something that says you have permission to publish a scanned copy of the certificate, we could probably do that. As far as taking a picture of the certificate, who ever took the picture would own the copyright to the picture. But there again it would run into money to register a copyright.

Chuck


From: Charlie Morgan [14] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2018 3:44 PM To: Charles S. Mason, Jr Subject: RE: The Hungerford Family Foundation, Inc. =Winner of the NGS Family Assocciation Newsletter Competition

Chuck –

Did you receive my email below? I need a response from NGS to give to Wikipedia.

Charlie

From: Charlie Morgan [15] Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2018 12:13 PM To: 'cgrs791@verizon.net' Subject: RE: The Hungerford Family Foundation, Inc. =Winner of the NGS Family Assocciation Newsletter Competition

Chuck –

Everything worked out just fine. Your staff at the convention was (is) first-rate. Again, thanks for the award. And thank you for your support and assistance.

I’m drafting an article about THFFI for publication on Wikipedia. They are trying to tell me that THFFI is not the copyright owner of the award certificates given to us last year (honorable mention) and this year (first place). They are saying that you (NGS) must send me an email stating that THFFI is the copyright owner of the certificates that you’ve given us and that THFFI is the copyright owner of the scanned images of the certificate that I want to include in the article.

Could you, or someone else in authority at NGS, send me an email confirming that THFFI is the copyright owner of the certificates and the scanned images that we have made of those certificates?

Charlie

What more do I need to give you? How do I send you a print of the emails?Charlie (talk) 03:08, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

@Cochituate: There should be a way of forwarding it to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org , which is the important address. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:46, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

I have emailed the email string with NGS to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org and will await the response. Will you be informed of the response or do I need to communicate it to you?Charlie (talk) 22:00, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

OTRS agents will respond to you by email, I think. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:23, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Anyanya II

I merely added links to an already existing article.--Degen Earthfast (talk) 17:29, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

@Degen Earthfast: Actually, before that you made a substantial addition. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:34, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

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Fixed. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 11:08, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Andy Cook (footballer, born 1990)

You closed this discussion as delete, and I am requesting it now be reversed.

Cook has been the leading scorer in the National League this season - here - and scored in the playoff final that saw his side promoted to EFL League Two for the 2018/19 season - here. Independent sources include here, here. Article has been deleted previously on the basis that he has not played for an EFL team, but that has now been overtaken by events and, given his status as leading scorer in the NL, he should in any event be treated as a special case outside any guidelines.

Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:55, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

I admit that I am not up on the mechanics of NFOOTY with respect to such a claim; @Supreme Sports Statistician, Number 57, GiantSnowman, and Fenix down:? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:01, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
He still fails WP:NFOOTBALL and there is no reason for any special treatment (the other top scorer in the league also doesn't have an article). However, if he plays for Tranmere next season in the EFL, he will then pass and the article can be restored (which I'm happy to do on request). Number 57 15:34, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
That is a guideline. There can be special circumstances, and special circumstances exist in this case. You must surely recognise that it is bizarre and anomalous that no fewer than 23 other players in the Tranmere squad have articles, but not the player who is not only the team's leading scorer, but the entire league's leading scorer? Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:36, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
All the other players pass WP:NFOOTBALL as they have played in the Football League at some point, but Cook has not. This is not a reason for Cook to have an article. Kim Casey was the league's top scorer for two seasons in the 80s but he never made the step up and doesn't have an article. Number 57 17:38, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
My point is that you are interpreting the guidelines too rigidly. With guidelines there will always be exceptions. You must be able to take a wider view, and recognise that this is an exceptional case. Any reasonable neutral person looking at the squad listing in the Tranmere Rovers F.C article would see that there is a clear and obvious anomaly. One which can be readily overcome by reinstating (and then updating) the article. See WP:COMMONSENSE. Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:22, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Good close - fails WP:NFOOTBALL and WP:GNG. GiantSnowman 18:33, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
That doesn't matter. Whatever the merits of the previous close in June 2017, the world has now moved on. We have had another season, in which Cook was top scorer, and was the subject of new reports in reliable sources. Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:05, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Based on this disagreement I'd punt the whole question to WP:DELREV. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:30, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
That seems the best way forward. Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:08, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Maybe DRV is the best place for a formal discussion, but given that the in depth coverage noted in the sources above is from local news reporting I am not seeing GNG here. Fenix down (talk) 12:01, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

22:23, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Country data edit requests

Template:Country data Bosnia and Herzegovina edit request on 15 May 2018

The image of 1992 flag has broken since the pages had been moved to File:Flag of Bosnia and Herzegovina (1992–1998).svg. Would you edit that? And I want to say if you endash the flags, change the link in each country data template, since the flag will not be "identified". Finish what you start. Thank you – Flix11 (talk) 05:38, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Template:Country data Myanmar edit request on 15 May 2018

The image of all previous flags have broken since you have moved the pages due to dashes (- to –) and changed their names (British Burma 1937 flag.svg to Flag of British Burma (1939–1941, 1945–1948).svg AND Flag of the State of Burma (1943-45).svg to Flag of the State of Burma (1943–1945).svg). Would you edit that? And I want to say if you endash the flags, change the link in each country data template, since the flag will not be "identified". Finish what you start. Thank you – Flix11 (talk) 05:45, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Template:Country data Albania edit request on 15 May 2018

The image of all previous flags have broken since you have moved the pages due to dashes (- to –). Would you edit that? And I want to say if you endash the flags, change the link in each country data template, since the flag will not be "identified". Finish what you start. Thank you – Flix11 (talk) 05:46, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Template:Country data Bahamas edit request on 15 May 2018

The image of all previous flags have broken since you have moved the pages due to dashes (- to –). Would you edit that? And I want to say if you endash the flags, change the link in each country data template, since the flag will not be "identified". Finish what you start. Thank you – Flix11 (talk) 05:48, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

@Flix11: I am not finding any broken files anywhere I looked. Also, the file renames were all part of a big batch and the script we use for that at Commons does move the image links itself. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:31, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
@Jo-Jo Eumerus: The images of all those flags, especially in the template pages, do not appear in my incognito-mode browser even after I reloaded the pages over and over again. The same happened before with Illegitimate Barrister's edits and he immediately fixed those. Why won't you? – Flix11 (talk) 06:40, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Ok, I get it now. It seems like Commons didn't know about these template pages and that the incognito mode browser does not understand what a "redirect" is unlike the regular browser. I did make the edits manually. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:50, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

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Husch-Blackwell

Hi Jo-Jo, I am an intern at Husch-Blackwell and we are trying to figure out how to get our page reinstated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.130.220.18 (talk) 19:29, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Greetings. Husch-Blackwell never existed; Draft:Husch Blackwell was deleted for being unacceptably spammy, not to mention being copy-pasted from here. Pages on Wikipedia need to be neutral and they must not be copied. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:35, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
If we could create a neutral history of the firm, would we be able to get our page and get that published? I'm new to publishing on Wikipedia so any help would be much appreciated. I know that we would need 3-4 neutral sources about us to back up the page, but what would the process look like? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.130.220.18 (talk) 19:43, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Yes, but only if the criteria laid out in WP:NCORP (yes, I know, Wikipedia policies are not known for their brevity...) are met by the firm. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:46, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Wonderful. If I can get something written to meet those guidelines how would I go about getting the page published again with the new neutral description? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.130.220.18 (talk) 19:48, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
You ought to add {{subst:submit}} to the page. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:01, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

German war effort arbitration case opened

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So done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 13:08, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gia na xereis alaniari

Aman Doktor is deleted with this change: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gia na xereis alaniari. However, this page is an album by Candan Ercetin and not created by the person listed. Can an admin revert this change? --Joseph (talk) 18:58, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Restored. It seems like the page may not fall under the scope of the prior deletion discussion in the sense that the arguments were very different. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:10, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

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CSD full protection

I made this a small top-icon, because I thought the banner on a major policy page that new users frequently come into contact with would be confusing. You're of course free to revert me, but thought you might have forgotten to check the small box on twinkle. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:53, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

OK. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:05, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

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