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Spawn (film)

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I noticed your recent edits to Spawn (film), you have fixed the same problem of missing pipes on several separate occasions[1][2] which is good. Unfortunately that same mistake was caused by an anonymous IPv6 editor who refuses to follow even the simple rules and provide an edit summary. He will not engage in talk page discussions. He strips the markup for no reason, ignoring WP:LINEBREAK and Template:Cite web. He has made very few actual constructive edits to the article (but on rare occasions he does eventually manage it). He shows an ongoing lack of WP:GOODFAITH and does not explain or discuss his changes.

I believe anyone should be allowed to edit Wikipedia, even if they choose not to get an account. I could try to have the article locked but that would lock me out too. I can't request a user block because like me he isn't using fixed IP address.

So I ask that you ask that you please not encourage him, and rollback his disruptive edits instead of attempting to fix them. Thanks in advance. -- 109.78.196.135 (talk) 18:19, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Church of St Helen, Kilnsea

Latest comment: 5 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hi Keith, I see that you're taking a Wikibreak but I hope you are well. You may recall we corresponded some time back on St Helen's. It was in June 2017, your Archive 60, so you may well have forgotten. By way of an update, from tomorrow it will appear in Historic England's listings as a Grade II listed building. And if you look at the HE record, you'll see that your Yorkshire Gazette quote has a place of prominence. So many thanks indeed - it's great that, via Wiki, we've got what I think was the only unlisted Burges building on the HE register. Thanks and best regards. KJP1 (talk) 21:07, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the work on this one and good to know that it has now been listed. I am OK and now back home I have a enforced break as there is no BT internet up in Hull just KC. Keith D (talk) 20:05, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

James Kitson, 1st Baron Airedale

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Please check - I Have added a PDF file and other citations. Thanks again T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.32.213.182 (talk) 11:40, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Leeds General Infirmary

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Ref number 13 is not done correctly I think. Thanks T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.32.213.182 (talk) 12:35, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-51

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News

Because of the holidays the next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 7 January 2019.

Recent changes

Some templates that show notices about the content of the page will now be shown on the mobile website. In many cases they were hidden before. [3][4]
Admins can no longer unblock themselves, except for self-blocks. A blocked admin can block the user who blocked them but no one else. This is so no one can block all admins on a wiki without being stopped. [5]
The ParserMigration extension has been removed. It compared the result of two versions of the MediaWiki wikitext parsing pipeline. It was used when we moved to the Remex parsing library instead of Tidy.

Problems

<ref> tags can use parameters such as "name" or "group". For example <ref name="adams" group="books">. If a <ref> tag has more than two parameters all parameters are ignored. You don't get a warning that they don't work. This will soon be fixed. [6]

Changes later this week

The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 December. It will be on all wikis from 20 December (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 19 December at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

The Wikimedia Foundation Android app team are working on making it easier to edit on mobile phones. You can read more about these plans. If you have an Android phone and speak at least two languages you can help testing in English. Tell Dchen (WMF) you want to be part of the testing by writing on her talk page or email her.
tiles.wmflabs.org and wma.wmflabs.org will stop working. They have no maintainers and run an old operating system. Tools which use it could stop working. This includes the mapnik gadget, hill shading, and hike and bike layers. New maintainers could help out and keep it going. [7]

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20:34, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

James Kitson, 1st Baron Airedale

Also please check if new refs at OK on this page. Thanks form T.

Copyright problem: Ackworth, West Yorkshire

Latest comment: 5 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as Ackworth, West Yorkshire, but we regretfully cannot accept copyrighted text or images from either web sites or printed works. This article appears to contain work copied from all sources, and therefore to constitute a violation of Wikipedia's copyright policies. The copyrighted text has been or will soon be deleted. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with our copyright policy. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators are liable to be blocked from editing.

If you believe that the article is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under license allowed by Wikipedia, then you should do one of the following:

Have the author release the text under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 License (CC BY-SA 3.0) by leaving a message explaining the details at Talk:Ackworth, West Yorkshire and send an email with confirmation of permission to "permissions-en (at) wikimedia (dot) org". Make sure they quote the exact page name, Ackworth, West Yorkshire, in their email. See Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for instructions.
If you hold the copyright to the work: send an e-mail from an address associated with the original publication to permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation permitting re-use under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 License and GNU Free Documentation License, and note that you have done so on Talk:Ackworth, West Yorkshire. See Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for instructions.
If a note on the original website states that re-use is permitted "under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License (CC-BY-SA), version 3.0", or that the work is released into the public domain, or if you have strong reason to believe it is, leave a note at Talk:Ackworth, West Yorkshire with a link to where we can find that note or your explanation of why you believe the content is free for reuse.

It may also be necessary for the text be modified to have an encyclopedic tone and to follow Wikipedia article layout. For more information on Wikipedia's policies, see Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.

See Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries for a template of the permissions letter the copyright holder is expected to send.

If you would like to begin working on a new version of the article you may do so at this temporary page. Leave a note at Talk:Ackworth, West Yorkshire saying you have done so and an administrator will move the new article into place once the issue is resolved.

Thank you, and please feel welcome to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Happy editing! Kingsif (talk) 01:01, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

I don't know if you added the content personally, but you seem to be the most active editor Kingsif (talk) 01:02, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #024, 26 Dec 2018

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Last issue, I mentioned there would be a flood, and so, here it is...

Portals status

We now have 4,620 portals.

And the race to pass 5,000 by year's end is on...

Can we make it?

The New Year, and the 5,001st portal, await.

( New portals are created with {{subst:Basic portal start page}} or {{subst:bpsp}} )

Evad is back!

After disappearing in mid-thread, Evad37 has returned from a longer than expected wikibreak.

Be sure to welcome him back.

Improved cropping is coming to Portal image banner

User:FR30799386 is working on making {{Portal image banner}} even better by enabling it to chop the top off an image as well as the bottom.

Many pictures aren't suitable for banners because they are too tall. Therefor, User:FR30799386 added cropping to this template, so that an editor could specify part of a picture to be used rather than the whole thing.

Upgrade of flagship portals is underway

Work has begun on upgrading Wikipedia's flagship portals (those listed at the top of the Main page).

So far, Portal:Geography, Portal:History, and Portal:Technology have been revamped. Of course, you are welcome to improve them further.

Work continues on the other five. Feel free to join in on the fun.

Spotting missing portals that are redirects

In place of many missing portals, there is a redirect that leads to "the next best topic", such as a parent topic.

Most of these were created before we had the tools to easily create portals (they used to take 6 hours or more to create, because it was all done manually). Rather than leave a portal link red, some editors thought it was best that those titles led somewhere.

The subjects that have sufficient coverage should have their own portals rather than a redirect to some other subject.

Unfortunately, being blue like all other live links, redirects are harder to spot than redlinks.

To spot redirects easily, you can make them all appear green.

What's new in portal space?

Here are the new portals since the last issue:

Keep 'em coming!

And I'll see you next issue.

Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 08:09, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #025, 30 Dec 2018

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

We can now crop the tops of pics to make banners

Before, we could only cut off the bottom of pics.

User:FR30799386 has pulled it off, and made the upgrade to {{Portal image banner}}...

So, this:

Niagara falls, from the Canadian side

Becomes this:

Niagara falls, from the Canadian side

Here's the code for the above banner:

{{Portal image banner|File:American Falls from Canadian side in winter.jpg | [[Niagara falls]], from the Canadian side |maxheight=175px |overflow=Hidden|croptop=10}}

To see it employed in a portal, check out Portal:Niagara Falls.

About that end of the year goal...

We were racing against time to create 5,000 portals by the end of the year (just for the heck of it).

We made it. We've passed the 5,000 portals mark, with time to spare!

And the 5,000th portal is Portal:Major League Baseball, by Happypillsjr.

Congratulations!

What's next?

The 10,000th portal mark. But...

...there is plenty else to do in addition to building new portals:

The new portals need to be linked to from the encyclopedia.
On those portals about subjects that are not typically capitalized, the search parameters need to be refined/expanded, to maximize the chances of Did you know and In the news items being found and displayed.
A Recognized content section needs to be added to each portal that has a corresponding WikiProject.
Addition of a category on those portals that lack a subject category.
Implement the portal category system, adding the appropriate categories to each portal.
Upgrade, and complete (as per the tasks enumerated above), the old-style portals that are not regularly maintained, which have not been converted yet (about 1,100 of them).
Find and fix the remaining bugs in the underlying lua modules.
Build portal tools (scripts) to assist in the creation, development, and maintenance of portals.
Build a script to help build navbox footer templates, via the harvesting of categories, amongst other methods.
Update the portal building instructions.
Update the portal guideline.
Refine the programming of the portals to reduce their load time.
Design and develop the next generation of portals and portal components.

And whatever else you can dream up.

But most of all, have a...

Happy New Year!

Keith D, thank you for your contributions to the Portals Project, and have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year.

Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 12:28, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2019

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2018).

Administrator changes

Galobtter

Orangemike

BorgQueen • Davidruben • Ocee • Revolving Bugbear • Theda • There'sNoTime • Timc • Tijuana Brass • Tristessa de St Ange

Bureaucrat changes

Addshore

CheckUser changes

Joe Roe • SilkTork

Euryalus • Newyorkbrad • There'sNoTime

Oversight changes

AGK • Joe Roe • SilkTork

Euryalus • Newyorkbrad • There'sNoTime

Guideline and policy news

There are a number of new or changed speedy deletion criteria, each previously part of WP:CSD#G6:

G14 (new): Disambiguation pages that disambiguate only zero or one existing pages are now covered under the new G14 criterion (discussion). This is {{db-disambig}}; the text is unchanged and candidates may be found in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as unnecessary disambiguation pages.
R4 (new): Redirects in the file namespace (and no file links) that have the same name as a file or redirect at Commons are now covered under the new R4 criterion (discussion). This is {{db-redircom}}; the text is unchanged.
G13 (expanded): Userspace drafts containing only the default Article Wizard text are now covered under G13 along with other drafts (discussion). Such blank drafts are now eligible after six months rather than one year, and taggers continue to use {{db-blankdraft}}.

The Wikimedia Foundation now requires all interface administrators to enable two-factor authentication.
Members of the Bot Approvals Group (BAG) are now subject to an activity requirement. After two years without any bot-related activity (e.g. operating a bot, posting on a bot-related talk page), BAG members will be retired from BAG following a one-week notice.

Technical news

Starting on December 13, the Wikimedia Foundation security team implemented new password policy and requirements. Privileged accounts (administrators, bureaucrats, checkusers, oversighters, interface administrators, bots, edit filter managers/helpers, template editors, et al.) must have a password at least 10 characters in length. All accounts must have a password:

At least 8 characters in length
Not in the 100,000 most popular passwords (defined by the Password Blacklist library)
Different from their username

User accounts not meeting these requirements will be prompted to update their password accordingly. More information is available on MediaWiki.org.

Blocked administrators may now block the administrator that blocked them. This was done to mitigate the possibility that a compromised administrator account would block all other active administrators, complementing the removal of the ability to unblock oneself outside of self-imposed blocks. A request for comment is currently in progress to determine whether the blocking policy should be updated regarding this change.
{{Copyvio-revdel}} now has a link to open the history with the RevDel checkboxes already filled in.

Arbitration

Following the 2018 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: AGK, Courcelles, GorillaWarfare, Joe Roe, Mkdw, SilkTork.

Miscellaneous

Accounts continue to be compromised on a regular basis. Evidence shows this is entirely due to the accounts having the same password that was used on another website that suffered a data breach. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately.
Around 22% of admins have enabled two-factor authentication, up from 20% in June 2018. If you haven't already enabled it, please consider doing so. Regardless of whether you use 2FA, please practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:38, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Ref number 112 is a newspaper report - please fix up if able and thanks from T.

Fixed After a look at the page following a request at the help desk. Eagleash (talk) 13:32, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - January 2019

Delivered January 2019 by MediaWiki message delivery.
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20:52, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Herne Bay Pier

Latest comment: 5 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

Please could you kindly help to deal with nuisance edits on the above article? The edits have been rollbacked three times, but this guy Stevewalpole is just playing at edit wars. I have put a request on the talk page to discuss, but I daresay the guy hasn't seen that. Another editor has made a request in the edit summary for a citation, but I don't suppose the guy has seen that either. Advice or assistance please? Thank you. Storye book (talk) 20:58, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi, suggest that as a first step you give him a message on his talk page as that should at least get his attention. Keith D (talk)

Thanks, will do. I have hesitated to do that so far, because he had not yet created his user pages. Storye book (talk) 09:22, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

May be a welcome message may be appropriate as they are a newish user. Keith D (talk) 10:39, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Done. :-) Storye book (talk) 12:37, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-02

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News writers, editors and translators wish you a pleasant 2019 year.

Recent changes

RelatedSites extension has been undeployed. It was used to create interwiki links on Wikivoyage, now handled by Wikidata. [8]
MediaWiki logstash logging is moving to a new infrastructure. This is an ongoing deployment. [9]
codesearch.wmflabs.org has been updated, with new and updated repositories and a new search options for code. [10]
On several wikis, an account named "Edit filter" has been created on December 17 to perform some technical maintenance on AbuseFilter. This account has sysop rights but it's a system user and no human can use it. The account already existed on wikis where AbuseFilter can perform blocks, which are issued using this account. See T212268 for more information and future plans.

Problems

In AbuseFilter, the "Throttle" action takes three parameters: count, period and groups. They must now strictly respect the requirements listed on mediawiki.org. A list of broken filters is on Phabricator. If you're familiar with AbuseFilter, please take a look and fix them. [11]

Changes later this week

The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 8. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from January 9. It will be on all wikis from January 10 (calendar).

Meetings

Search Platform Office Hours is rescheduled to January 9. Check the details for time and date.

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18:29, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Edward Baines (1800–1890)

Please check new layout

Potternewton

Please check many new refs Thanks T.

Vandalism - blanking

Latest comment: 5 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

Hi Keith. Please could you deal with the current vandalism by user Artistic Whammer? You can see on his contributions page here how he has been on a spree of blanking articles for no reason. I reverted one of his blanking edits, but then realised that it was part of a series of blankings. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 08:48, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Update: Ah, it's just been done by someone else - that was quick! Storye book (talk) 08:52, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-03

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

You can now use Google Translate in the content translation tool. [12][13]
You can now add captions to files on Commons. Captions are short descriptions of the file. They can be translated to all languages we use. They can't use wikitext markup.
Earlier a quoted HTML attribute had to be followed by a space. Now it doesn't. This means that some pages could look different when you save them even if you didn't edit that part of the text. [14][15]
Templates with <templatestyles> could not show the difference between the live template and the sandbox version when they were tested. This has now been fixed. <templatestyles> has a new wrapper parameter now. You can use it for selectors like .mw-parser-output <wrapper parameter value> <selector from CSS page>. [16]

Problems

When you see an edit in the recent changes feed or in the history of a page some of them have tags. Some tags are added automatically. You can also add tags manually. Tags for edits that have been added manually can be edited. This didn't work for a little while. This has now been fixed. [17]

Changes later this week

You can move files from your wiki to Wikimedia Commons and keep the file history with the new FileExporter. It will be a beta feature on all wikis from 16 January. If you want to test it you activate it and check your wiki's configuration file.
Users who could cause more damage to the wikis if someone took over their account have to have more secure passwords. This includes administrators and other user groups. They can't use passwords that are in a list of common passwords. Accounts with common passwords are easy to take over. The list of common passwords was made longer a few weeks ago and has a different error message. Some user groups have been added to those who can't use common passwords. This is to protect all accounts with user rights that could cause damage. [18]
The AbuseFilter variable minor_edit has been removed. It was deprecated in 2016. Now you can't use it. You can fix the filters using it. You can find them if you use the search bar on Special:AbuseFilter.
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 15

17:54, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Potternewton

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Please check - much work done here. Thanks again T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.33.45.21 (talk) 03:59, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi

Latest comment: 5 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Why did you revert this ? 79.67.70.237 (talk) 18:28, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Because it looks like old information that has previously been removed with an |accessdate= of November 2016 that caused a cite date error as it is not a full date. Keith D (talk) 18:33, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

You're right. Thanks for the clarification. I will try to fix that. 79.67.70.237 (talk) 19:23, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #026, 20 Jan 2019

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Well, here's the first issue of the new year. Enjoy...

New participants

A hearty welcome to new arrivals to the portals department:

Harvesting categories tool prototype

DannyS712 has created a user script prototype, User:DannyS712/Cat links, that can pull members from a category, a functionality we've been after since the project's revamp last Spring. Now, it's a matter of applying this technique to scripts that will place the items where needed, such as with a section starter script and/or portal builder script.

New portals since last issue

What else is going on

There have been some discussions at Wikipedia talk:Portal guidelines.

DreamyJazz is working on a bot to place links to portals on root articles, category pages, and navigation footer templates.

Portal bugs are getting dealt with soon after they are reported.

Lots of wikignome activity (using Hotcat, etc.).

Keep up the good work. — The Transhumanist 09:29, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Lupton family

Hi Keith - Could you please place your thoughts on this Lupton family page on its talk page - some editors think it is too big and that there should be separate pages for many of the Lupton members. I think that the early section could be trimmed but I think that- as you once said - the page should aim to be a higher category page (it is currently very well-researched) - like the Bronte family and Bonham-Carter family pages etc. Thanks T.

Albert Kitson, 2nd Baron Airedale

Please check new rearranged refs. Thanks if that's OK T.

De-cap'ing templates?

Latest comment: 5 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

Hi. With all due respect for your massive edit count and sysopness... In addition to a change in a date format, this edit seems largely comprised of changing {{Cite ...}} to {{cite ...}}. I thought it was the case that the first letter of all articles is cap'd, though a lower-case letter is accepted as an automatically-provided redirect by the parser (or something like that). So, changing links (or template "calls") from lower-case first letters to upper-case is technically using the correct name for the linked page, but isn't necessary, sucks up CPU and history space resources, etc. Going the other direction, from upper- to lower-case, seems like it's actually wrong, though it doesn't break anything. I saw the AWB tag – is this something it does automatically, and is there a reason? —[AlanM1(talk)]— 18:58, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

No it is not automatic, I was just trying to standardise this while doing the date errors. If you do not like it then I can turn it off. Keith D (talk)

I'm all for standardization – it just seems that the standard for a link/transclusion should be the actual page name – in this case {{Cite ...}} not {{cite ...}}. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 08:56, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-04

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News

Some people did not get last week's issue of Tech News. This was because of a problem with MassMessage. If you did not get last week's issue, you can read it on Meta. [19]

Recent changes

The content translation tool can now use version 2 as the default version for users who turned on the beta feature. For example it adds the tracking category Pages with unreviewed translations to translations that might have used machine translations without fixing the problems. This is so others can find them. You can find this category in Special:TrackingCategories on Wikipedias.
https://mediawiki2latex-large.wmflabs.org can now convert collects of up to 800 pages to PDF, EPUB or ODT. Previously this was 200 pages.

Problems

When a template was edited with the visual editor, it would sometimes put all information on one line. This makes it difficult to read for editors who use the wikitext editor. It also makes it more difficult to see what happened in a diff. This problem affected edits made between 8 and 17 January and is now fixed. [20]
MassMessage is used to post a message to many pages. It has not been working reliably. Some messages have not been posted to everyone. [21][22]
Because of a database problem that had to be fixed immediately you could not edit most wikis for a couple of minutes on 17 January (UTC). This has now been fixed. [23]

Changes later this week

You will be able to use template styles in the Module namespace. [24]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 January. It will be on all wikis from 24 January (calendar).

Meetings

You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 January at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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20:35, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Fixing PMC warnings.. how to do it??

Latest comment: 5 years ago4 comments3 people in discussion

Hello.. how did you fix that PMC warning?.. is this available via a external application for IPs as well.. thanks 182.58.250.165 (talk) 13:14, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

No it is a manual edit on the source. Keith D (talk) 13:21, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Where are the PMC warnings ? For example, i did not see one when i edited https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotype Sbrozell0 (talk) 23:25, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi, the warning messages are not generally visible but you can see them by following these instructions -

By default, Citation Style 1 and Citation Style 2 error messages are visible to all readers and maintenance messages are hidden from all readers.
To display maintenance messages in the rendered article, include the following text in your common CSS page (common.css) or your specific skin's CSS page and (skin.css).
(Note to new editors: those CSS pages are specific to you, and control your view of pages, by adding to your user account's CSS code. If you have not yet created such a page, then clicking one of the .css links above will yield a page that starts "Wikipedia does not have a user page with this exact name." Click the "Start the User:username/filename page" link, paste the text below, save the page, follow the instructions at the bottom of the new page on bypassing your browser's cache, and finally, in order to see the previously hidden maintenance messages, refresh the page you were editing earlier.)
.mw-parser-output span.cs1-maint {display: inline;} /* display Citation Style 1 maintenance messages */
To display hidden-by-default error messages:
.mw-parser-output span.cs1-hidden-error {display: inline;} /* display hidden Citation Style 1 error messages */
Even with this CSS installed, older pages in Wikipedia's cache may not have been updated to show these error messages even though the page is listed in one of the tracking categories. A null edit will resolve that issue.
After (error and/maintenance) messages are displayed, it might still not be easy to find them in a large article with a lot of citations. Messages can then be found by searching (with Ctrl-F) for "(help)" or "cs1".
To hide normally-displayed error messages:
.mw-parser-output span.cs1-visible-error {display: none;} /* hide Citation Style 1 error messages */
You can personalize the display of these messages (such as changing the color), but you will need to ask someone who knows CSS or at the technical village pump if you do not understand how.

Nota bene: these CSS rules are not obeyed by Navigation popups. They also do not hide script warning messages in the Preview box that begin with "This is only a preview; your changes have not yet been saved".

Keith D (talk) 23:33, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Request for renaming page

Latest comment: 5 years ago5 comments2 people in discussion

Hi Keith,

Back in 2015, we worked together on improving the marrow article. I was impressed by your professionalism and am therefore now asking you whether you would work with me on improving a different article, the Leaf curl article. Leaf curl in plants, as you may know, is a symptom produced under various conditions: fungal infection, viral infection, drought stress, etc. As it stands, the Leaf Curl article wrongly states that leaf curl is a disease (it is in fact a symptom of various distinct diseases). And the article itself then deals only with one particular disease, peach leaf curl.

What I suggest is that you (as a registered user) could:

1. Rename the Leaf curl article as "Peach leaf curl", and then

2. create a new disambiguation page called "Leaf curl" which directs the reader to "Peach leaf curl", and to Begomovirus and to Geminiviridae.

This should only take a few minutes of your time. I might then add a tiny bit of content to the new disambiguation page, for your approval. What do you think? 86.167.181.14 (talk) 18:40, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

This has been suggested here previously, but no action was taken on this so looks like it could be contentious. Suggest requesting a move on the article talk page so that those who are involved with the article can comment rather then me wade in and move an article which I have no knowledge of the subject matter. Keith D (talk) 23:36, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick response. I was sincerely hoping you would have more competence/confidence than Morena to grasp the nettle and help fix the problem. Can you recommend an editor who does have that confidence? If not, is there a noticeboard anywhere on Wikipedia where one can specifically request the support of a plant pathologist? 86.167.181.14 (talk) 07:08, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

I have re-read what I wrote - it might sound slightly unfriendly, but I mean what I wrote literally. As for the Talk page proposal, please note that there are zero visits on the Talk page, so that is alas not the way forward. I await your advice. 86.167.181.14 (talk) 08:26, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

The information on requesting a page move can be found at Wikipedia:Moving a page which will point you to Wikipedia:Requested moves. You could ask for the support of one of the projects listed on the article talk page, these give lists of people who are active in their particular area of expertises. Keith D (talk) 12:04, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Lupton family

Hi again! Please check that new citation number 64 is done the right way - it is part of another new file (found on commons). Thanks from T. (Edward)

Sources in lists and or or in biogs

Latest comment: 5 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Hi. Re: this — could you point me to a guideline that backs up your assertion? Thanks DBD 13:02, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

There has been discussion but cannot find at the moment but WP:UNSOURCED states

All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution

and WP:CIRC

Do not use articles from Wikipedia (whether this English Wikipedia or Wikipedias in other languages) as sources

which is effectively what is happening when the reference does not appear in the list article but relies on a wikilink to another article. That article could be modified and the reference or detail to the relevant information from the list removed. Keith D (talk) 23:21, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, ok; fair enough. DBD 18:20, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #027, 28 Jan 2019

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Portal styles

For a visually intensive portal, see Portal:Hummingbirds.

If you find any other portals that stand out, please send me the links so I can include them in the next issue. Thank you.

Conversion continues

There are about 1100 portals left in the old style, with subpages and static excerpts. As those are very labor intensive to maintain (because their maintenance is manual), all those except the ones with active maintainers (about 100) are slated for upgrade = approximately 1000. We started with 1500, and so over a quarter of them have been processed so far. That's good, but at this rate, conversion will take another 3 years. So, some automation (AWB?) is in order. We just need to keep at it, and push down on the gas pedal a bit harder.

You can find the old-style portals with an insource search of "box portal skeleton".

Flagship portals: the portals on the Main Page

Speaking of upgrades...

The following portals are listed in the header at the top of Wikipedia's Main Page, and get far more traffic than all other portals:

Of those, all but one have been revamped to an automated self-updating single-page design.

The remaining one, Portal:Mathematics has manual maintainers, and has been partially upgraded.

As these are our flagship fleet, they need to be kept in top-notch condition.

Check 'em out, and improve them if you can.

And be sure they are on your watchlist.

New portals since last issue

Keep 'em coming!

Deorphanizing the new portals

As you know, thousands of the new portals are orphans, that is, having no links to them from article space. For all practical purposes, that means they are not part of the encyclopedia yet, and readers will be unlikely to find them.

What is needed are links to these portals from the See also sections of the corresponding root articles.

Dreamy Jazz to the rescue...

Dreamy Jazz has created a bot to place the corresponding category link to the end of each portal (if it is missing), and place a link to each portal in the See also section of the corresponding root articles.

That bot, named User:Dreamy Jazz Bot, is currently in its trial period performing the above described edits!

To take a look at the edits it has made so far, see Special:Contributions/Dreamy_Jazz_Bot.

It shouldn't be long before the bot is processing the entire set of new portals.

Good news indeed.

Way to go, Dreamy Jazz!

And, that's a wrap

That's all I have to report this time around.

No doubt there will be more to tell soon.

Until then, — The Transhumanist 13:12, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors!

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

The 2018 Cure Award

In 2018 you were one of the top ~250 medical editors across any language of Wikipedia. Thank you from Wiki Project Med Foundation for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a user group whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs.

Thanks again :-) -- Doc James along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 17:41, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

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When someone moves a page to a name that already exists that page that had the name the article is moved to is deleted. For a couple of months this didn't always work. Some users saw an error message instead. This has now been fixed. [25]

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Please delete photos

Latest comment: 5 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hi there, would you be able to delete these files for me, I uploaded photos of the wrong signal box!
File:Valley signal box interior.jpg
File:Valley signal box exterior.jpg

Many thanks Cls14 (talk) 15:25, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Done - they have gone. Keith D (talk) 16:10, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Good man, thanks

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Administrators' newsletter – February 2019

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2019).

Administrator changes

Enterprisey • JJMC89

BorgQueen

Harro5 • Jenks24 • Graft • R. Baley

Interface administrator changes

Enterprisey

Guideline and policy news

A request for comment is currently open to reevaluate the activity requirements for administrators.
Administrators who are blocked have the technical ability to block the administrator who blocked their own account. A recent request for comment has amended the blocking policy to clarify that this ability should only be used in exceptional circumstances, such as account compromises, where there is a clear and immediate need.
A request for comment closed with a consensus in favor of deprecating The Sun as a permissible reference, and creating an edit filter to warn users who attempt to cite it.

Technical news

A discussion regarding an overhaul of the format and appearance of Wikipedia:Requests for page protection is in progress (permalink). The proposed changes will make it easier to create requests for those who are not using Twinkle. The workflow for administrators at this venue will largely be unchanged. Additionally, there are plans to archive requests similar to how it is done at WP:PERM, where historical records are kept so that prior requests can more easily be searched for.

Miscellaneous

Voting in the 2019 Steward elections will begin on 08 February 2019, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 28 February 2019, 13:59 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
A new IRC bot is available that allows you to subscribe to notifications when specific filters are tripped. This requires that your IRC handle be identified.

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #028, 04 Feb 2019

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Here's a quicky status report:

Old-style portals: 1,018

Single-page portals: 4,367

Total portals: 5,385

But of course, there has been more going on than just that...

Dreamy Jazz Bot is up and running!

Dreamy Jazz Bot has been approved and is now up and running.

What it does is places missing links to orphaned portals. It places a link in the See also section of the corresponding root article, and it puts one at the top of the corresponding category page.

We have thousands of new portals that have yet to be added to the encyclopedia proper, just waiting to go live.

When they do go live, over the coming days or weeks, due to Dreamy Jazz Bot, it will be like an explosion of new portals on the scene. We should expect an increase in awareness and interest in the portals project. Perhaps even new participants.

Get ready...

Get set...

Go!

Another sockpuppet infiltrator has been discovered

User:Emoteplump, a recent contributor to the portals project, was discovered to be a sockpuppet account of an indefinitely blocked user.

When that happens, admins endeavor to eradicate everything the editor contributed. This aftermath has left a wake of destruction throughout the portals department, again.

The following portals which have been speedy deleted, are in the process of being re-created. Please feel free to help to turn these blue again:

And the corresponding talk pages:

New portals since the last issue

Keep up the great work

Until next time, — The Transhumanist 09:01, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

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It was easy to untick a box by accident in Special:Preferences. This will now be fixed. [26]
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17:12, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

MassMatrix

Latest comment: 5 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hi, just for future reference, this edit inserted "<ref name=" in the text. As it was then followed by a continuation of the text, it produced the 'multiple name' error msg. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 07:25, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I had not spotted that. Keith D (talk) 10:32, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Thomas Michael Greenhow

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Please check this article on Leeds-connected man. Many new refs. Thanks from T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.33.45.21 (talk) 09:56, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Lupton family

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hi. New refs. - please help and check. Thanks as usual, T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.33.45.21 (talk) 10:30, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Question

Latest comment: 5 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Hi, recently an editor named RainbowSilver2ndBackup has uploaded some images that link Houthis to North Korea [27]. He says that these images are fictional. Is this allowed in Wikipedia? They aren't sourced flags. He made up these flags from his mind. Could you please help. Thanks.--SharabSalam (talk) 12:44, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Unsure on this one as there is a category for such flags Commons:Category:SVG flags - special or fictional on Commons. It is probably more of a question for them, may be you could try Commons:Village pump. I would say that they should not be used on the English Wikipedia but cannot find a link here to them apart from the one to the Graphics Lab. Keith D (talk) 13:08, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you so much!.--SharabSalam (talk) 15:19, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-07

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #029, 13 Feb 2019

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Where we are at:

Single-page portals: 4,704

Total portals: 5,705

The Ref desks survived the proposal to shut them down

You might be familiar with the Ref desks, by their link on every new portal. They are a place you can go to ask volunteers almost any knowledge-related question, and have been a feature of Wikipedia since August of 2005 (or perhaps earlier). They were linked to from portals in an effort to improve their visibility, and to provide a bridge from the encyclopedia proper to project space (the Wikipedia community).

Well, somebody proposed that we get rid of them, and the community decided that that was not going to happen. Thank you for defending the Ref desks!

Here's a link to the dramatic discussion:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Indefinitely_semiprotecting_the_refdesk#Proposal_II:_Shut_down_the_Ref_Desks

The cleanup after sockpuppet Emoteplump continues...

The wake of disruption left by Emoteplump and the admins who reverted many (but not all) of his/her edits is still undergoing cleanup. We could use all the help we can get on this task...

Almost all of the speedy deleted portals have been rebuilt from scratch.

For the portals he/she restarted (many of which were done mistakenly, overwriting restarts and further development that had already been done), and/or tagged as the maintainer, see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Emoteplump&oldid=881568794#Additional_Portals_under_my_watch

10,000 portals, here we come...

We're at 5,705 portals and counting.

New portals since issue #28

Prior to 2018, for the previous 14 years, portal creation was at about 80 portals per year on average. We did over 3 times that in just the past 9 days. At this rate, we'll hit the 10,000 portal mark in 5 months. But, I'm sure we can do it sooner than that.

What's next for portal pages?

There are 5 drives for portal development:

Create new portals
Expand existing portals, such as with new sections like Recognized content
Convert or restart old-style portals into automated single-page portals
Link to new portals from the encyclopedia
Pageless portals

Let's take a closer look at these...

1: Creating new portals

Portal creation, for subjects that happen to have the necessary support structures already in place, is down to about a minute per portal. The creation part, which is automated, takes about 10 seconds. The other 50 seconds is taken up by manual activities, such as finding candidate subjects, inspecting generated portals, and selecting the portal creation template to be used according to the resources available. Tools are under development to automate these activities as much as possible, to pare portal creation time down even more. Ten seconds each is the goal.

Eventually, we are going to run out of navigation templates to base portals off of. Though there are still thousands to go. But, when they do run out, we'll need an easy way to create more. A nav footer creation script.

Meanwhile, other resources are being explored and developed, such as categories, and methods to harvest the links they contain.

2: Expanding existing portals

The portal collection is growing, not only by the addition of new portals, but by further developing the ones we already have, by...

Improving and/or adding search parameters to better power the Did you know and In the news sections.
Adding more selected content sections, like Selected biographies.
Adding and maintaining Recognized content sections, via JL-Bot.
Adding pictures to the image slideshow.
Adding panoramic pics.
Categorizing portals.

More features will be added as we dream them up and design them. So, don't be shy, make a wish.

3: Converting old portals

By far the hardest and most time-consuming task we have been working on is updating the old portals, the very reason we revamped this WikiProject in the first place.

There are two approaches here:

A) Restart a portal from scratch, using our automated tools. For basic no-frills portals, that works find. But, for more elaborate portals, as that tends to lose content and features, the following approach is being tried...

B) Upgrade a portal section by section, so little to nothing is lost in the process.

4: Linking to new portals

Or "portal deorphanization"...

Dreamy Jazz Bot is purring along.

And a tool in the form of a script is under development for linking to portals at the time they are created, or shortly thereafter.

5...

See below...

New WikiProject for the post-saved-portal phase of operations...

Saved portals, are portals with a saved page.

What is the next stage in the evolutionary progression?

Quantum portals.

What are quantum portals?

Portals that come into existence when you click on the portal button, and which disappear when you leave the page.

Or, as Pbsouthwood put it:

...portals that exist only as a probability function (algorithm) until you collapse the wave form by observing through the portal button (run the script), and disappear again after use...

Introducing...

Wikipedia:WikiProject Quantum portals (see it's talk page).

Keep on keepin' on

...'til next time, — The Transhumanist 10:22, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Sustainable Fashion editathon

Latest comment: 5 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hello Keith D, I'm writing on behalf of a group of fashion and sustainability scholars and educators, most of us in the US, UK and Sweden. We have recently formed a Union of Concerned Researchers in Fashion; our signatories are listed here. Engaging our signatories, we'd like to undertake a collective editing of the Wikipedia page on sustainable fashion. We would like to do this with utmost respect while acknowledging that the page as it currently stands needs a lot of work. I noticed you had done some editing of the page and wanted to ask about protocols for doing this. We'd like to do this on Tuesday February 26th. As an editor do you have any concerns about this, and can you provide any guidance on how to go about this so that we respect the wider Wikipedia community? Thank you for any advice. Best wishes, Timo RissanenTrissanen (talk) 11:38, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi, looks like my edit to the page was correcting a date problem. I have no specific interest in the article and have no concerns about you organising something to improve the article. May by How to run an edit-a-thon may be of help in organising this and give you information on how to interact with the wider community. Keith D (talk) 12:39, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Fuckwit74

Latest comment: 5 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Keith, I noticed you reverted an edit by this user. He also seems to have an unacceptable username. Regards JRPG (talk) 19:54, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. It looks like user:Fuckwit74 has been blocked by another admin, before I got round to acting on your message. Keith D (talk) 20:58, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-08

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When you thank someone on the mobile web you will now have two seconds to cancel the thank. This is in case you clicked on the thank button by accident. [28]

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23:13, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Mater Christi College

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Please check new refs. Thanks from T — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.32.70.221 (talk) 11:45, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

John Mogg (British Army officer)

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Not really much of a Yorkshire article - but please check refs if you can. Thanks as always T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.32.70.221 (talk) 03:47, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Date Help

Latest comment: 5 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

For the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research, what did I do wrong in typing the date? It just looks like you replaced a space with a space. I edited the page using the iOS app's beta editing tools, which told me that the date wouldn't work, but I just couldn't see why. What was I missing? Thanks! --Akhenaten0 (talk) 15:02, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi, the problem is some invisible characters that get put in the date field and cause an error to be flagged. It is often from a copy and paste, from a web page, of the date information. Usually by deleting the spaces and re-adding them it clears the problem and will show a 1 character change in the page. Keith D (talk) 16:54, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! --Akhenaten0 (talk) 18:43, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Talk to us about talking

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

The Wikimedia Foundation is planning a global consultation about communication. The goal is to bring Wikimedians and wiki-minded people together to improve tools for communication.

We want all contributors to be able to talk to each other on the wikis, whatever their experience, their skills or their devices.

We are looking for input from as many different parts of the Wikimedia community as possible. It will come from multiple projects, in multiple languages, and with multiple perspectives.

We are currently planning the consultation. We need your help.

We need volunteers to help talk to their communities or user groups.

You can help by hosting a discussion at your wiki. Here's what to do:

First, sign up your group here.
Next, create a page (or a section on a Village pump, or an e-mail thread – whatever is natural for your group) to collect information from other people in your group. This is not a vote or decision-making discussion: we are just collecting feedback.
Then ask people what they think about communication processes. We want to hear stories and other information about how people communicate with each other on and off wiki. Please consider asking these five questions:
1. When you want to discuss a topic with your community, what tools work for you, and what problems block you?
2. What about talk pages works for newcomers, and what blocks them?
3. What do others struggle with in your community about talk pages?
4. What do you wish you could do on talk pages, but can't due to the technical limitations?
5. What are the important aspects of a "wiki discussion"?
Finally, please go to Talk pages consultation 2019 on Mediawiki.org and report what you learned from your group. Please include links if the discussion is available to the public.

You can also help build the list of the many different ways people talk to each other.

Not all groups active on wikis or around wikis use the same way to discuss things: it can happen on wiki, on social networks, through external tools... Tell us how your group communicates.

You can read more about the overall process on mediawiki.org. If you have questions or ideas, you can leave feedback about the consultation process in the language you prefer.

Thank you! We're looking forward to talking with you.

Trizek (WMF) 15:08, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

PMC warnings

Latest comment: 5 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

hi, I saw that you fixed some PMC warnings on the page I just put up Sean Whelan (scientist). I didn't know I was creating errors, can you tell me how to spot these in future and how to fix them? Thank you very much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Logophile59 (talk • contribs) 20:37, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi, the article will be categorised in Category:CS1 maint: PMC format which is a hidden category that you can see if you set the "Show hidden categories" in your preferences. Also there is a green warning message following the cite in question these warning messages are not generally visible but you can see them by following these instructions -

By default, Citation Style 1 and Citation Style 2 error messages are visible to all readers and maintenance messages are hidden from all readers.
To display maintenance messages in the rendered article, include the following text in your common CSS page (common.css) or your specific skin's CSS page and (skin.css).
(Note to new editors: those CSS pages are specific to you, and control your view of pages, by adding to your user account's CSS code. If you have not yet created such a page, then clicking one of the .css links above will yield a page that starts "Wikipedia does not have a user page with this exact name." Click the "Start the User:username/filename page" link, paste the text below, save the page, follow the instructions at the bottom of the new page on bypassing your browser's cache, and finally, in order to see the previously hidden maintenance messages, refresh the page you were editing earlier.)
.mw-parser-output span.cs1-maint {display: inline;} /* display Citation Style 1 maintenance messages */
To display hidden-by-default error messages:
.mw-parser-output span.cs1-hidden-error {display: inline;} /* display hidden Citation Style 1 error messages */
Even with this CSS installed, older pages in Wikipedia's cache may not have been updated to show these error messages even though the page is listed in one of the tracking categories. A null edit will resolve that issue.
After (error and/maintenance) messages are displayed, it might still not be easy to find them in a large article with a lot of citations. Messages can then be found by searching (with Ctrl-F) for "(help)" or "cs1".
To hide normally-displayed error messages:
.mw-parser-output span.cs1-visible-error {display: none;} /* hide Citation Style 1 error messages */
You can personalize the display of these messages (such as changing the color), but you will need to ask someone who knows CSS or at the technical village pump if you do not understand how.

Nota bene: these CSS rules are not obeyed by Navigation popups. They also do not hide script warning messages in the Preview box that begin with "This is only a preview; your changes have not yet been saved".

You can resolve the problem by removing the PMC prefix from the value of the |pmc= field in the reference. Hope this helps. Keith D (talk) 20:47, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-09

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There is a new version of the iOS Wikipedia app. It has for example syntax highlighting and new toolbars to make it easier to write wikitext. It also has night mode, a find-on-page function and other things. You can give feedback and suggestions. [30]

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When you look at your watchlist or the recent changes page you can use the new filters for edit review. There you can choose tags to filter different edits. Empty tags will no longer be shown. [31]
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21:16, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Leeds

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Please check new refs 29 and 30 on this page. Thanks from T and Co. Srbernadette (talk) 03:32, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Advice please Keith

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I have taken to, in a few recent new articles (see Dormington), adding cite links such as Ordnance Survey and Google Maps, and Grid Reference Finder (which I use for distances), to help 'prove' Geographic details of places, and give readers an opportunity to check veracity for themselves. Such geographic details are usually unreferenced in virtually all place articles, even though there is a requirement that all stuff be sourced. Copying these linked pages to construct an image would certainly be copyvio, but is just linking in these cases similar to what we do with external web page text, such as HE listings, Open Domesday, and British History Online? My worry is that these links might be against policies, such as Uw-uploadfirst. This may (or may not) be a grey area... eg: the soon to be discontinued but often linked IOE (see IOE Dormington House), has copyrighted images, which if linked seems to run against policy. Can you give your specific and general opinion on this please. Many thanks Acabashi (talk) 11:53, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

I can not see a problem with using them as a reference unless the detail is self generated rather than some static web page that is linked to. The IOE is just like any other web page used as a reference as nearly all contain copyrighted images. (We will have to address IOE when the website is removed, though their plan is to move the images over to the NHLE pages so may be we can just switch to that site.) Keith D (talk) 12:12, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Many thanks for your clarification. Acabashi (talk) 12:47, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

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Ref number 8 has the page wrongly placed - please check if you can Thanks T.

I have tweaked it using {{cite magazine}} hope that solves the problem. Keith D (talk) 00:39, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

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chapeltown leeds page

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Hello Keith, I really appreciate your help to sorting out and tidying my edits and hoped you could help on this.

On the Chapeltown opening paragraph it talks about how Chapeltown was home to riots the last being in 1987. Although this is factually true the other cities/places where there were also riots (Manchester, Liverpool, London, Birmingham )no longer have this as their opening paragraph (see moss side Toxteth</ref>, Brixton, Handsworth) The riots were an important part of the history of the UK, Leeds and Chapeltown but they are now 32 years ago. Could you allow for this sentence to be deleted as it is already covered under the section about history. it would be good to add

A riot occurred in 1981, during which similar riots took place in Brixton (London), Houdsworth (Birmingham), Moss Side (Manchester), and Toxteth (Liverpool). The 'sus' law (Vagrancy Act 1824) saw black youths being disproportionately stopped, searched and arrested by the police, on the grounds of mere 'suspicion' of possible illegal activity; this, along with high unemployment and social alienation, was a key element of the backdrop to the 1981 riot in Chapeltown (similarly in Brixton, Moss Side, Handsworth and Toxteth). Following the Brixton riots of 1981, the subsequent Scarman report (1981) concluded that the events of 1981 were "essentially an outburst of anger and resentment by young black people against the police."

Please forgive me if this is not the place where we discuss these things and let me know best way Happenupon (talk) 07:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)happenupon

Have you any references to support the addition you are proposing and the lead should be a summary of the contents of the article so should cover all of the major points in the rest of the article. Keith D (talk) 10:14, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

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References number 2, 9 and 10. Please check if you can - thanks as always. T.

From draft to public

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Dear Keith,

Thank you for revising the following draft page I wrote a month ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Cybertec

I just checked if it is now live on the public side of Wikipedia (meaning that I gave it a look to see if it has been published) but I saw that this is not the case.

Therefore, my question is: how can I do to publish this draft page and make it readable to the public?

Thanks a lot Juliusmoto (talk) 09:29, 8 March 2019 (UTC) --Juliusmoto (talk) 09:29, 8 March 2019 (UTC) Juliusmoto 8th March 2019

Hi, you can submit it for review at articles for creation by adding {{subst:submit}} to the top of the article or you can use the move function to do it yourself but that tends to have problems of others deciding to delete the article if it is felt not to be suitable. The initial review by the first method can get round the deletion as the reviewer will give you pointers as to what needs correcting/fixing before it goes live. Keith D (talk) 11:17, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Done, thanks a lot for the tip! --Juliusmoto (talk) 11:35, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Berney baronets

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A new ref for you to check please - links to Leeds. Thanks again T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.32.70.221 (talk) 23:50, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

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