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editI'm now watching him and Witakone, and the Bundeswehr page--Shanel 14:29, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Um, you didn't so much differentiate between the RMA and the MA as delete all references ot the RMA. I restored that to the separate article, but as far as I can tell there is a single line of succession from the RMA to the modern-day MA. Or am I reading that wrongly? It's not like the English Wikipedia is so overwhelmed wiht editors interested in German naval history that we have the luxury of edit wars :-) Just zis Guy you know? 23:58, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- @JzG: Thank you for your comment. It is a good idea to have an own article on the Reichsmarineamt. There has in fact been no connection between the old RMA and the MA since there was no authority with the name Marineamt between 1919 and 1965. During the Kriegsmarine period there was a Marinekommandoamt taking care of education and training.
- When I looked through your RMA-article I have unfortunately to say that it rarely contains any correct information. Can you tell where you found this information? In detail:
- The RMA was not founded in the early 20th century but in 1889.
- It was not a kind of technical bureau as you describe it but the German Department of the Navy, a part of the government and highest authority of the Kaiserliche Marine.
- Therefore, it was not run by engeneers but by line (i.e. seammanship) officers.
- After WW I the German fleet was not dissolved but severly reduced.
- The RMA, however, was not reduced to its pre-war strength but it was dissolved and its functions transferred to the new Admirality.
- Consequently it was not renamed during the Weimar Republic since it did not exist.
- Failures in German naval constructions during this period could not hamper the fleet in the Battle of Jutland since that took place already in 1916.
- The Kaiserliche Marine was renamed Reichsmarine after WW I and the Reichsmarine became the Kriegsmarine in 1935.
- As lined out, the present Marineamt is no successor of the old RMA as it also has totally different tasks (training and logistics vice High Command of the Navy).
- The present name of the German Navy is not Bundesmarine (never official but normally used 1956 - 1990) but Deutsche Marine (=German Navy).
- I hope you now understand why I deleted all this info. Once I have time I will correct the RMA-article.--KuK 12:01, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
- I understand why, and I hope you will expand the RMA article. Most of it came from a series of two or three essays on the web - I was still looking for a proper reference, but my library does not have much on this (my own collection is almost entirely restricted to technical details on equipment, as a model-maker with some interest in those periods). It would have been better to split the article rather than simply delete the content, since there were incoming links directly related to the RMA. But please do fix RMA since your information is clearly better than mine, and we definitely need an article on this important body. Mind you, my research was obviously below par on this one - but that's because I sold my book on the German military in the WWI / Weimar Republic era a while back and never really used it for muych more than plans and illustrations anyway... See if it's better now? Just zis Guy you know? 12:55, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for your understanding. I will work on the RMA article but since I am not a native English speaker and also have only limited time that might take some time.--KuK 13:06, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
- Did some further research concerning the Marineamt and found out that it was only founded in 1965 when changing the structure of the Bundesmarine.--KuK 16:02, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for your understanding. I will work on the RMA article but since I am not a native English speaker and also have only limited time that might take some time.--KuK 13:06, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
- I understand why, and I hope you will expand the RMA article. Most of it came from a series of two or three essays on the web - I was still looking for a proper reference, but my library does not have much on this (my own collection is almost entirely restricted to technical details on equipment, as a model-maker with some interest in those periods). It would have been better to split the article rather than simply delete the content, since there were incoming links directly related to the RMA. But please do fix RMA since your information is clearly better than mine, and we definitely need an article on this important body. Mind you, my research was obviously below par on this one - but that's because I sold my book on the German military in the WWI / Weimar Republic era a while back and never really used it for muych more than plans and illustrations anyway... See if it's better now? Just zis Guy you know? 12:55, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
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edit--Zeitgespenst (talk) 18:57, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Citation needed for German Navy LCA
editDear Kuk,
I have included your mention of the German Navy operating LCA in the Post War section of the LCA page. Do you have a source for the information? It is not allowed simply to cite the German page. Thanks.AmesJussellR (talk) 15:50, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for including this info into the article! The German WP is basically sourced on the quoted literature, i.e. for the LCA: Siegfried Breyer, Gerhard Koop; Die Schiffe und Fahrzeuge der deutschen Bundesmarine 1956 - 1976; München 1978; ISBN 3-7637-5155-6. To be exact, the description of the German Navy LCAs is on p. 249. This is the citation I can offer you and I hope it will suffice even if it is not in English but in German. Best wishes, --KuK (talk) 12:07, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
LCA swabbing
editDear Kuk, Thanks for the little edit on the LCA page. Is there any chance of your finding citation information on the post-war FRD craft? DANKE! I see you have a source - I'll put this in on your say-so, even though I have not seen this source.
Best regards, AmesJussellR (talk) 10:07, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Dear AmesJussellR: Sorry, but I'm not quite sure what you are asking for may be my English does not suffice to understand. I think it must be possible to just quote the German source indicated above. I don't believe that there is anything in the www as these small craft were not really very impressive and only a small number of people have served in that unit. Please help me to better understand your request.--KuK (talk) 10:25, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Hans-Joachim Dönitz
editThank you for your excellent edits on the Hans-Joachim Dönitz article. There are just some things that don't translate well to English. I saw your note on my page and I'd be happy to try and translate some of your German articles in the category Deutscher Seeverband 1945-1956. I'm especially interested in the articles on the Hauptverwaltung Seepolizei and the Rhine River Patrol. My wife's father served on the Rhine River Patrol. Ehrentitle (talk) 13:44, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
- Great, the article on the Rhine River Patrol has been written mainly by someone else (de-user Steinbeisser) but sourced mainly on USAREUR info. I just today got a new book on many of these subjects including articles on the Seepolizei written by admiral Elchlepp, on the VP-See by a former VM-captain Mirow, and on the staff training of VM-officers in Leningrad by VMrear admiral Pöschel. But I have to read it first.--KuK (talk) 16:27, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Kleine Frage
editWhat's the difference between sich verteidigen and sich wehren? Sca (talk) 21:36, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
- There is none. Both means to fend off an attack. I.e. both words express some reactive behaviour, not an offense. --KuK (talk) 22:09, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
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