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I hope seeing that kitty cat makes you as happy as your terrific infomation made me!

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Mike Tyson's nicknames

Moved discussion to Talk:Mike Tyson#Nicknames (infobox). Please continue there. Thank you - Marchjuly (talk) 20:51, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
Do you really think that "Iron Mike" is not a commonly used nickname for Mike Tyson?--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 21:43, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the message SaskatchewanSenator. Actually, I do think it is, but what I think is not really relevant. I explained my reasons for hiding those nicknames at Talk:Mike Tyson#Nicknames (infobox). If you wish to further discuss this, then it's probably better to do so on the article's talk page.   - Marchjuly (talk) 00:09, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Actually, your knowledge of the subject is useful. If you believe material is likely correct and verifiable, but should have a reference, a better way to deal with it is to add a the Template:Citation needed.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 17:55, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks again for another reply SaskatchewanSenator. {{citation needed}} or similar templates are OK to add to articles or information which in not about a living person, but according to Template:citation needed#When not to use this template, that template is not to be used on BLP articles. Rather such information is to be removed immediately. WP:BLPSOURCES says basically the same thing so it is slightly more restrictive than WP:UNSOURCED. - Marchjuly (talk) 20:34, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
It says that the Citation needed template should not be used with contentious material in a BLP. It's appropriate to use the template in situations like this where the material is not contentious.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 00:04, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
That is true, but "contentious" on Wikipedia refers to anything that another editor might feel needs to be supported by a reliable source, doesn't it? It's my opinion that all of Tyson's nicknames should be supported by RSs. It's also my opinion that all the nicknames should be actually mentioned in the article body and cited there instead of in the inbox. I am not sure of the best way to do this, but please feel free to be bold if you know a good place to add that info. I've given my reasoning for my edit at Talk:Mike Tyson#Nicknames (infobox) and I really think that's where any further discussion on this should take place. Not trying to be a jerk about anything and I do appreciate your comments, but let's continue this at the article's talk page, OK? Thanks in advance. - Marchjuly (talk) 01:11, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
Why do you think "contentious" has a different meaning on Wikipedia? I have no issue with your goals, I just think that removing that material from the article is not the best way to achieve them. If you want to move this discussion, I don't mind.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 23:18, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
Isn't it possible that there are people who aren't as familiar with Tyson as you, and, therefore, might not be aware of all his nicknames? Someone could challenge a nickname and remove it. Would it be acceptable for an editor to re-add that info without providing a reliable source per WP:PROVEIT? If you feel it's OK to do so, then re-add it with a "citation needed" template. I do make mistakes and I don't revert when I'm wrong. If no one else reverts, then that means such information is not contentious. However, if a cn template is all it takes to keep something in a BLP article, then it seems to me that other editors could do the same with other info that was removed, excluding obvious vandalism, using the same logic you are using here. My interpretation of how to use that template might indeed be wrong, so please re-add the nickname(s) if you feel it is. I only suggest you briefly explain why on that talk page post, so other editors know why. Thanks again.   - Marchjuly (talk) 12:54, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

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王位戦の加筆ありがとうございました。(写真はイメージです) Aphaia (talk) 06:18, 28 September 2014 (UTC)