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Vibro??

Well, I'm not sure about the suffix; I think we should generalize it to Vibroweapons, as blades is more specific. Only, how much do you know about them? I don't doubt you at all, it's just that we can't make the article with only my limited knowledge. M ^o P 04:22, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes Vibroweapons would be best. The 's' should stay because we're generalizing, but obviously some redirects can be made. As far as info goes, here are some links (many KOTOR text screenshots):

• [1] Wookiepedia entry
• [2] SW Databank entry
• [3] KOTOR weapons list
• [4]
• [5]
• [6]
• [7]
• [8]
• [9]
• [10]
• [11]

Aside from that, I could list some random stuff off from KOTOR, and I can continue my latest KOTOR playthrough. Remember that for an article, the amount of information needed is relative to how much information exists. This article won't be as long as the lightsaber one, but the information available warrants more than a short entry in a list. Also, would you like to have a draft first, either User:Xolatron/Vibroweapons or User:Master of Puppets/Vibroweapons, or just start the article? -Xol 22:16, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Foxes are cwooter

File:Vulpes zerda in Heidelberg zoo.jpg

Especially fennecs. ^_^ Sango123 (e) 00:10, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Foxes are indeed cute :) — Deckiller 00:11, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, to respond on your last comment, Master of Puppets, I'd have to disagree. Foxes are cute, but wolves are cwooter/booutifuler ;). By far. —Mirlen

You just can't see the inner beauty :P in that. Instead of imaginging those blood-dripping jaws when they kill, think about how they leave their food behind for the other animals, like the ravens to eat. There's inner beauty for you :), hehe. —Mirlen 00:25, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

You're just jealous :P. Methinks it blinds you from seeing that inner beauty ;). —Mirlen 00:41, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Btw MoP, here's something you'll like. I'm post the image, except, I'm afraid it'll violate copyright laws and all... —Mirlen 22:51, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

It isn't cute? I love that picture, so comical. There's also several photos of the artic white fox too, pretty cute and huggable ^_^. Like this one—set with a pose and all :D. The wolf photos are pretty awesome too...like the sleeping one *HINTHINT* ;). Heh, anyway, if you want view the whole gallery, click here. He took some pretty awesome pictures. —Mirlen 22:58, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Why, is cute too girly of a word to say? :P (Just teasing). But yeah, really adorable. I wonder if the photographer would let me use at least one of his photos if I asked nicely... —Mirlen 23:57, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Squid Image

Just so you know, the usage of the Squid image on pages other than the article its described in is considered a copyvio and isn't allowed under fair use, I hate to be the bringer of the news but you know how the WMF is with copyright issues :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tawker (talk • contribs) (ahh, I messed up the signing Tawker 00:34, 25 March 2006 (UTC))

The Image was on User:Naconkantari - the diffs showed you added it, not sure if I screwed up in checking the diffs -- Tawker 00:34, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: 68.39.174.238 and "get an account".

He commented on my talk page on the subject, go read it :) — nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 18:29, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar, OTR & PUA Review

FYI. You may want to look and comment here: Wikipedia:Barnstar and award proposals/Proposed Changes. For your reference, the guidelines are referenced here: Barnstar Proposal Guidelines. Thanks -- evrik 18:40, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

• I agree that some of the awards can be grouped. What is really needed is a reorganization of the page. Persoanlly, i think that that any award that makes it through the vetting should be a barnstar (especially the wikiproject stars), and the PUA page can be as anarchic as it wants to be. :) evrik 20:52, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Warning messages for vandalism

Hi. I noticed that you actively revert vandalism to articles. Thanks!! I also noticed that in at least one case (Kingdom of Great Britain) you didn't leave a warning message on the vandal's talk page. I think it important to leave messages in almost every instance of even the most minor inappropriate edits for these (and probably other) reasons:

• People just test-editing can be directed to the sandbox where they won't corrupt real articles.
• Mischievious newcomers may stop if their first edits result in a polite request to behave.
• Sysops can more quickly ban more serious vandals if they've already been warned a few times.

There are templates (documented on Wikipedia:Vandalism) that make it fairly easy to add messages, but if you revert vandalism regularly it can still be tedious. So I've made some vandal-warning tools that are documented at User:Kbh3rd/Vandal_warning_toolbox. A list of warnings can be added to that toolbox menu on the left whenever a user talk page is being edited so that the proper warning message is only a click away.

Thanks again for your help! --Kbh3^rdtalk 20:52, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: I'm happy

Warm and fuzzy, like this? :D I'm glad you're happy; thanks for creating the award! Cheers, Sango123 (e) 04:44, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

• *sits down and feeds Sango123 a box of cookies* — nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 05:16, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

So you want a cookie, eh..

Well I don't think you deserve a cookie, so there!

On the other hand, I think you deserve a plate of cookies.

• 
  Enjoy a plate of cookies
• 
  ...with some milk!

— nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 05:35, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1

Reach out Reach out is a program aimed at allowing users to bring issues that they have had in Wikipedia to a listening, sympathetic and caring audience: "No one can know how we feel if we do not say. We cannot expect to get understanding if we do not ask for it. No one will dispute that sometimes life's issues are too much for one person. It is fair to say that sometimes Wikipedia's problems fall under the same heading. This is a place where you can bring the bruises that can sometimes be got on this project for attention." Stress Alerts The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them. Note from the editor Welcome to this new format of the Esperanza Newsletter, which came about during the last Advisory Council meeting - we hope you like it! The major changes are that each month, right after the Council meeting, this will be sent out and will include two featured programs and a sum up of the meeting. Also, it will be signed by all of the Advisory Council members, not just Celestianpower. Have an Esperanzial end of March, everyone!

The last AC meeting (full log) Future meetings are to be held monthly, not fortnightly as before. Bans and Access level changes (apart from autovoice) in the IRC channel are to be reported at the new log. In the IRC channel, there is going to be only one bot at a time. The charter requires members to have 150 edits and 2 weeks editing. Why this is the case will be clarified. A new Code of Conduct will be drafted by JoanneB and proposed to the Esperanza community. The NPA reform idea is to be dropped officially. Charter ammendments are to be discussed in future, not voted on. The Advisory Council is not going to be proposed to be expanded by the Advisory Council themselves, if others want to propose it, they will listen. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 17:47, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Optical illusion

Hi there! I've been trying to work it out, but I just don't see the optical illusion in the image on your userpage. Help! Very curious now. -- ConDem^Talk 03:44, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Wow! That's actually really crazy. bizarre. anyway, i used your code in my monobook, and it works, thanks! presumably i have to remember to click it onto offline before i log off, is that right? -- ConDem^Talk 18:21, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Chips Ahoy!

ARRRR! you stole me booty you lily-livered squiffy! I'll spill you guts on the poopdeck an' place the black spot on yee! Rosa 07:44, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Ive been gone

So, what happened with Moe?--Slipknot222 21:48, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

The happy bubble has been gone since January, and no I'm not refering to my RFA's (real-life happiness is low too) :( Darn, I feel hopeless, I have three seperate occasions where I left and came back on my talk page recorded, I'm thinking I do that to often. :D Thanks for being there. Moe ε 03:59, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I knew that "stalking you" didn't seem like a good choice a words to use. No, no death balloons, thanks :-D Moe ε 04:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

You are stalking me aren't you? :D Moe ε 04:18, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Damn, I've been found out too. *hides the evidence* — natha(?)nrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 06:58, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:Vandals

Thanks for the tips. I have a couple of admin contacts. But they are busy busy busy working on articles of their own. The anon IP with the sales exaggeration fetish is fairly harmless. I know which pages he trolls and what his techiques are. A quick rv and he's gone for a while. These back to back attacks aren't common for him. I will follow your leads and educate myself a litte better as to what tools/options are available to keep the tricksters at bay. Cheers and Take Care! Anger22 04:26, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanx for the info on status operations :)

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		I, Ikiroid, award the Master of Puppets this barnstar for going out of his way to help me improve my userpage, and showing me how to use a status indicator. The ikiroid (talk/parler/hablar/paroli/说/話) 18:44, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey there, indeed!

Thanks for checking up on me! We were both newbies at the time, and your welcome was most … well … welcome.

I'm glad to see that you seem to be thriving and active. My contributions (because of time constraints) are mostly still of the wikignome variety and are likely to stay that way for a while. I do, however, sign on and contribute frequently, even if only in small ways. —CKA3KA (Skazka) 21:01, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Edit anniversary

Thank you, Master of Puppets! :) Cheers, Sango123 (e) 03:33, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry for the repeat warning, I was reverting the user's edit and sending the warning at the same time when the revert timed out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Antipode (talk • contribs) 06:42, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

My Stress

Exams and few major events coming up, nothing wiki based, thanks for asking :) -- Tawker 07:55, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Good luck with those, Tawker. — natha(?)nrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 08:10, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: User:Karatloz

I'm sorry; I seem to be having difficulty understanding. Am I looking at a cached version of his user page? When I look at User:Karatloz, all I see is "Okay, I used to mess around with wikipedia, calling people 'fuckers' and whatnot. Now I've found uncyclopedia.org is much better for that kind of hilarity. Now, I use this mostly for research, but I also contribute when I can. Mel Brooks' Terrorism Trilogy: Young bin Laden Blazing Carbombs Zarquawi: Dead and Loving It!" I don't see anything about waging war, and it looks like he's only edited his user page once in the last month. How did he react, and what is he reacting to? And I'm afraid I don't know how User:Tawker is involved. What role does he play? I'm sorry; I'm quite mystified by this whole matter. I hope you don't mind being patient with me and perhaps helping me to understand what is going on. And I'm glad you like the Enterprise! — Knowledge Seeker দ 08:11, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Are you referring to this version? That's from April 22, 2005—11 months ago. Are you suggesting that you're expecting this spate of vandalism almost a year after he wrote that using a different account, and that blocking him for a week will somehow prevent it? This makes no sense to me. — Knowledge Seeker দ 03:02, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion, if a block is made for inappropriate reasons, the failure of the blocked user to protest cannot be construed as justification for the block. I'm not sure we're communicating well, but if you have no input on the block, then I'm not certain what we are discussing; my concern is over User:Karatloz's block. I'd be happy to hear any further comments you have on this matter if you have any you wish to share. — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:16, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Friendly vandalism.

Re your edit: I really like it. Just my user page is getting a bit big.

I won't revert it, I'm just wondering if there's someplace else for it to go. — natha(?)nrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 08:16, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Mentorship of User:Shultz III

I notice that you had offered to help mentor Shultz III. I've been asked to help out as well, but it doesn't hurt to have a couple of different voices helping guide someone along. If you're still interested I'd love for you to help keep an eye on him too. (ESkog)^(Talk) 12:15, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Please note that he has moved on to User:Shultz IV - one of the terms of our mentorship is that he is to inform me of any change in his username. (ESkog)^(Talk) 03:45, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

lee ible article

Thanks for the speedy work on the deletion of the 'lee ible' article. much appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taffmaster (talk • contribs)

Any chance we should swap out the {prod} for CSD G4? Its been deleted 3 times before, twice because it was recreated material...and is *identical* (with some minor formatting changes) to the deleted items. I'd csd it myself, but I wanted to see if you had any strong desire to try and prod it knowing its history. --Syrthiss 17:17, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Okee, sounds reasonable. --Syrthiss 19:11, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Christina Ritter Evidence of Validity

Below is my evidence which makes this actress valid:

• Imdb Profile (Under construction)
• Offical Fansite Lovely Christina
• Sweet Christina Home
• Marie-Antoinette Film
• Marie-Antoinette at Answers.com
• Answers.com
• The Secret Life of Bees
• Child Actors

• Also, IMdb backs up almost all the sites I've mentioned:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2091240/officialsites http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2091240/miscsites So I don't know why you say none are independent. In the data I've provided, she was not and extra, I must get that clear to you. An extra is someone with no lines or no character or no character name. She has all of that in her roles, so that part of this argument can be closed. Christina Ritter was credited, which means she was NOT an extra. Those names are used for credited people all the time. I read in film credits “Girl on Cell phone” that’s counts as credited, not an extra, no matter how unusual or detailed character ‘name’. Furthermore, out of 24 credits, she is small roles for only 7, while uncredited for only 4 and a voiceover for 3(which still counts as a perfectly normal credit. So I don’t know what you are getting at when you say she seems mostly like an extra. The Official site is NOT the only source as I have given eight sites that are sources as well as IMDb backing half of those. I have no idea what you are talking about when you say that all the others sites say their source is the Official site, because, on checking them, I have found no dictation whatsoever. So no, I will not note them as uncredited or unnamed because that is entirely untrue. User:Fame live4ever

• They don't say anything right now because like thier page for Artemis Fowl, they are revamping her page. I know this because I e-mailed the support team in concern that she wasn't credited, and they replied that she is credited, they just needed to pull her page down until it could be fixed up. User:Fame live4ever

Howdy

Nice user page, just might have to steal it sometime if you don't mind ;). ---WGee 01:24, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I am back on for this weekend

I do have a heart murmur. Its not common but not rare either. I cant have too big of an adrenalyn rush. I think I spelled that wrong. They say since I listen to Metal music and stuff like that, it has an effect on my blood that makes me not have it as bad. Thats one of the best things Iv'e ever herd from my music. But, I will be on this weekend. I made an A+ with 5 bouns points for turning it in. I can get on whenever I want this weekend.  :). Cheers, --Slipknot222 02:47, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

• Adrenaline, but you get points for the attempt ;) — natha(?)nrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 10:06, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

My (HereToHelp’s) RfA

Thank you for supporting my RfA. I’m proud to inform you that it passed with 75 support to 1 oppose to 2 neutral. I promise to make some great edits in the future (with edit summaries!) and use these powers to do all that I can to help. After all, that’s what I’m here for! (You didn’t think I could send a thank you note without a bad joke, could I?) --HereToHelp 13:18, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Final warning

This is your last warning. Your talk page is hard to read. If you do not make it less virulently orange you will be slapped round the face with a wet fish. --Sam Blanning (SQUIDWARD!!!)^(talk) 17:53, 1 April 2006 (UTC) srsly

Thank you for the Welcome

It seems that you are one of the more distinguished users. Thank you for taking the time to give information to unimportant me.--MrFish 18:23, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism

Heh, nice. :P *whistles nonchalantly* Sango123 (e) 19:28, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

N4h, th4t us3rb0x 1s st4y1ng f0r t0d4y. 1 4dd3d 4 c0mm3nt, th0, just 1n c4s3. :D Sango123 (e) 19:38, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

1 4|\/| 4 |_3375P34|< |\|008. w00t! Sango123 (e) 19:48, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

InstaView

Templates won't show so far, as that implies contacting the server. Pilaf 16:12, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Hello Master of Puppets, how are you? Thanks for your support in my RFA. The final vote count was (88/3/1), so I am now an administrator. I am very humbled by your comments and your vote of support. Please let me know if at any stage you require assistance, or if you have comments on how I am doing as an administrator. Once again thank you and with kind regards Gryffindor 18:57, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Lee Ible

Once prod is removed for any reason it needs to be taken to AFD. See WP:PROD. Also, removing an AFD tag is vandalism; don't do it. Kotepho 01:34, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

If anyone removes Template:Prod from an article for any reason, don't place it back. If the template was removed and replaced, the article will not be deleted. If you still believe the article needs to be deleted, list it on AfD. How much more explicit do you need? Kotepho 01:47, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

oops

oops,oops —Preceding unsigned comment added by JonnyBoy (talk • contribs) 16:47, 3 April 2006

RFA Thanks

Thank you for your support vote on my RFA. The final result was a successful request based on 111 support and 1 oppose. --CBDunkerson 18:06, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello again

Hello Master of Puppets. I've been away for a while, so I just got your message(s). Good work on User:Xolatron/Vibroblades, and of course I don't mind it on my namespace :). Thanks for the friendly vandalism (wow, I don't think one hears that a lot!), it was quite amusing, especially considering that I had left my Status template on 'online' while I was away... so I arrived to discover a large box proclaming my current activity :). Though it *is* useful to have the Status template used somewhere. I have edited it, however, to say that "I am currently somewhere. Feel free to...", just to amuse myself. I'll be back on later. -Xol 20:42, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Hello Master of Puppets/Talk/Archive/Archive4: Thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which passed with a final tally of 77/3/0. I hope I can perform at the standards expected for administrators. If I make any mistakes, or you need anything, please let me know. Prodego talk 01:20, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Galápagos

Hey. I see you signed an {{unsigned}} comment on my talk page. Were you the one who made the comment itself? I.e., are you the one going to the Galápagos? Tomer^talk 02:55, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Hulkdomo wins!

Why? Because he has you chasing him around. You're like the ultra-lame substitute teacher who can't control the class. I think this war is about to become a lot more fun. Take care of yourself, superstar! (unsigned comment added on 4 April 2006 by user:Pacmeng)

I think someone thinks too much of themselves to think that they are waging a war (let alone winning it), when its just the trivial level of vandalism that rc patrollers are dealing with thousands of similar edits 24 hours a day. Sfnhltb 21:25, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

New User Log

You can, but remember to use an edit summary. (Not that I think you're a vandal) ;)--Shanel 03:18, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!--Shanel 03:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Star Wars image

Thats a great userbox! You should actually make it. And thanks for the support for my RfA. I don't know if I'll make it though since I'm sitting on the border line. Jedi6-(need help?) 05:05, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

It is a creative userbox, much more than the other Star Wars userboxes. Jedi6-(need help?) 05:11, 5 April 2006 (UTC)