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Levi M. Hubbell

Hi I started an article about Levi M. Hubbell who served in the Iowa General Assembly. Please fee free to make any changes. There is also Levi Hubbell who served in the New York and Wisconsin Legislatures and was on the Wisconsin Supreme Court. Thanks-RFD (talk) 21:26, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Help please

Hello sir, I wonder if I might trouble you for an advisory opinion on Wikipedia policy? I'm a relatively new user (about 2 months real experience, despite my 2007 sign-up date), and I've run into a thorny problem where the solution isn't obvious.

I've created a new article, you see, and it's on a controversial topic. Very quickly after it went live yesterday, 2-3 editors jumped on it and started blanking sections, then they moved it, then they finally blanked the entire page and turned it into a redirect. All within 3-4 hours.

If I understand correctly, this is a pretty flagrant violation of WP:PAGEBLANKING and WP:NOBLANKING. The complaints vary between NPOV, OR, SYNTH, etc. Maybe these are legitimate, maybe not, but if I understand the policies correctly, they are designed specifically to disallow what was done here. If the article is truly unsalvageable, the correct solution is to put an AfD nomination on it and let the community decide, no? Otherwise, it's just editors simply censoring what they don't like.

So, my question for you... am I allowed to revert to an earlier version of the article, pre-blanking? I've proposed this as a solution to the impasse, and I've invited, even encouraged them to nominate it for deletion if they so desire. And by the way, there has been no edit-warring at all - I have done my level best to talk this out.

Can you help? Belchfire-TALK 07:53, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment. For ease of reference, I've edited your comment to link the shortcuts for the policies. A more substantive response to follow in a few minutes... --Philosopher Let us reason together. 07:58, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
Okay, here goes. I assume you're talking about "Radical gay activism" - thanks for discussing it, by the way. To begin with the obvious, I can just give advice (not "authoritative" advice, just my own) and WP:PAGEBLANKING and WP:NOBLANKING are essays, which means they are just the opinions of some users, and are not necessarily a majority position.
Outright redirection should generally be reserved for exceptional circumstances. The creation of a "Duplicate, POV fork" would probably fit that category, however. I note that you dispute the assertion that it is such a fork, and are doing so on the appropriate talk page. Linking to that discussion on the talk page of the article it was redirected to (Talk:LGBT social movements) might bring in valuable additional viewpoints.
If you want to, you can undo the redirection (see WP:BRD - I'd only undo the redirection once, personally) - and request that if the others want it gone, they take it to WP:AfD. If they simply re-redirect it, I suspect that you could take it to WP:Deletion review, but I don't hang out there, so I don't really know. However, I would recommend simply publicizing the existing discussion in a neutral manner at Talk:LGBT social movements or a similar page and just having the discussion at its current location. As a last resort, there's always Wikipedia:Dispute resolution, but hopefully you can avoid that extreme. Hope this helps! --Philosopher Let us reason together. 08:42, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

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I-80 potential FAC

This last week, I've been expanding I-80's article and I'm thinking it's going to end up at FAC before the year is up. Can you think of anything else I can mention in the article? I know roads aren't normally your thing, but I-80 is kind of a big deal. Thanks. –Fredddie 03:25, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Very cool - as you say, I-80 is kind of a big deal. I'll try to find time to look it over, but may not be able to work on it until mid-September, due to RL busyness. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 03:30, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
Sweet! I'm not exactly done doing the writing I want to do, so this will give me plenty of time. By then I imagine it will be at ACR by then. –Fredddie 03:45, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
I figured I might as well answer the GA review request while I was at it. See Talk:Interstate 80 in Iowa/GA1. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 17:12, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

TFD closure

When closing TFD discussions, please note that Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Administrator instructions states that the {{subst:tfd top}} should go after the section header, not before it. On a daily log page like this, it makes more sense this way as otherwise the start of the closing box is actually at the end of the previous section in the wikitext. It also confuses the clerk bot if you put it in the wrong place. Thanks. Anomie 16:19, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh, thanks for the note, I'll be more careful next time. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 23:59, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Lieutenant Governors of Iowa

Hi-There are articles for all the Lieutenant Governors of Iowa. I just got finished with the last article. I am impressed with the Iowa General Assembly database and wish the Wisconsin Legislature had a database also. That still leaves articles for the various Iowa constitutional officers that needs to be done. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 20:52, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

You finished the Lieutenant Governors? That is awesome! Hopefully I'll have more consistently free time in September to finish creating articles for the uncreated office articles and for the current Iowa officeholders. And yes, the Iowa database is awesome.  :-D --Philosopher Let us reason together. 22:33, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

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Talkback

 
Hello, Philosopher. You have new messages at Gold Standard's talk page.
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My RfA

I don't believe I've yet thanked you for participating in my recent RfA. I appreciate your explanation of where Q8 went wrong, and I have come out with a much better grip on copyright policies. On that wholly unrelated note, I notice that "Q8" sounds quite similar to "Kuwait" — just thought it was worth pointing out as an interesting triviality. =)

Take care. Kurtis (talk) 13:24, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Interesting trivialities are always appreciated.  :) Thanks for running! --Philosopher Let us reason together. 19:34, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

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Charles F. Crosby

Hi-I came across an article about Charles F. Crosby who served in the Minnesota House of Representatives. I found out that he returned to Wisconsin and served in the Wisconsin State Senate from District 21. I expanded the article. However, the infobox needs to be revised to reflect his service in the Wisconsin Senate. I was wondering if you would please look at the article and see what changes needs to be made. The info box needs to be corrected. Thank you-RFD (talk) 21:36, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

I added the Wisconsin Senate to the article. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 11:57, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

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I have commented in reply to your question there. I have also copy-edited the category article lead. Sincerely, Gareth Griffith-Jones (GG-J's Talk) 11:10, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. What would you think about renaming the Category? --Philosopher Let us reason together. 11:18, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
I believe that should be done, but don't know how to go about it. Could you do the deed? -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 11:43, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
It's been nominated for renaming. I've thrown a notice up at Talk:Ring road. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 14:48, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Excellent! I have added my support. Thank you for drawing it to my attention here. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 20:16, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

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