User talk:Pi.1415926535/Archive 5
This is an archive of past discussion threads on User talk:Pi.1415926535, from July 2014 (the end of Archive 4) to August 2015. Please don't modify it. If you wish to revive a discussion, please start a new section on my main talk page and link to the discussion here.
MARC Penn Line stations
editSo, you finally added some pics to the MARC train stations between Baltimore Penn and Aberdeen. Congratulations. I like this one for Edgewood (MARC station) myself, and I was hoping to take my own version of it on my next road trip to NYC and LI. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 13:04, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, I happened to be going through the area (I did a one-day Chincoteague-Wilmington-Baltimore-Chincoteague round trip) and figured I'd get some missing pictures. I got the former Amtrak station in Elkton, too - I'll be making that article soon. The sun angle was terrible, so I took what I could get. I'll be back in Baltimore in three weeks, so I'm hoping to snag the light rail stations en masse on that trip. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 13:16, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- @DanTD:: I just uploaded Seabrook which I believe reduces the MARC hit list down to one. I also have most of the northern BLR stations, as well as a complete set of Tide Light Rail, on my SD card. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:45, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
- Well, you beat me. Am I disappointed that I didn't get any images from that station first? You bet. Am I glad there's one there? sure. Am I going to look for your Baltimore Light Rail and Tide Light Rail images? You know it. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 02:52, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
Category:Proposed railway stations scheduled to open in 2014 CfD nomination
editAs you requested, the CfD discussion is Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 July 24#Category:Proposed railway stations scheduled to open in 2014. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:49, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Citation templates
editRe User:Pi.1415926535#Copy-paste, are you aware of Category:Rail transport book citation templates and their ilk? Mackensen (talk) 01:19, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Ooh, I was not. I might move some of my more common books over there. Thanks a ton! Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:23, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Where was {{tl:MBTABus}} discussed?
editPi: Do you remember where the discussion that lead to the creation of {{tl:MBTABus}} was? Link? Thanx either way. — Lentower (talk) 20:12, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- {{MBTABus}} dates back to June 2006 (long before I was editing MBTA articles) and in fact was formerly {{mb}} created by SPUI in 2005; I'm not privy to the details but at that time SPUI was pretty much working in a vacuum so there probably wasn't discussion needed. Most of the links to pages of the form XYZ (MBTA bus) were red until 2012; when a series of edits starting with this edit you made on the Porter station article spawned this discussion and this linked discussion. Those led me to create redirects for every active MBTA bus route so that the template can be used universally. As of right now the four trolleybus routes redirect to the trolleybus page, the other key routes to the key route list and the crosstown routes to the crosstown list, a few geographically grouped routes to their lists, and some oddballs like the 39, 43, 57, 59, and 86 to their own pages. Everything else goes straight to List of MBTA bus routes, which seems to work pretty well. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:54, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Way to search many wikis at once?
editHi Pi: Do you know of a tool that let's one search many wiki's at once? E.g. all the English wikipedias, including commons? Be useful, at least, whenever a move/rename gets suggested. Thanks either way — Lentower (talk) 20:18, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- I don't know of any such tool, sorry. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:53, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you — Lentower (talk) 22:10, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Image renaming how-to needed
editI noticed that you're renaming a lot of image files with more-descriptive names, a very useful improvement. You seem to be using a script to make this otherwise-tedious process more efficient. Could you tell me how you're doing the renames? I probably won't do much renaming on the MBTA articles, since you're doing a great job already. I've been putting off cleaning up filenames in other areas because of the amount of work involved doing it systematically by hand. I'd appreciate any pointers you can offer. Reify-tech (talk) 15:34, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- The edit summary doesn't make it very clear, but I'm doing the renaming on Commons and the "script" is automatically updating uses of the file on all wikis. (Until about a year ago, you had to use a bot to do that, so the script actually is very convenient.) For reasons I'm not entirely clear on, moving files requires advanced permissions (quite unlike moving pages and templates) on both enwiki and Commons. It appears you don't have an account on Commons, so you won't be able to do file moves - the usual guideline at commons:Commons:Requests for rights#Filemover is 1000-1500 edits on Commons. (To date, it's the only advanced permission I've ever sought.) Minor copyedits in names aren't usually grounds for moving (unfortunately - I'd love for everyone to have John Phelan's standards for naming photos); the ones you've seen today were my personal choices (and the requests might be declined my some more conservative filemovers). There's actually an active discussion at commons:Commons:Requests for comment/File renaming criterion 2 at the moment.
- For the time being, unless you end up joining Commons and making a bunch of edits, the easiest way is probably to just ask me. It takes about 30 seconds to do the moves, so I don't mind doing them. If you think you'll have more than a few, send me an email and I can give you contact info so you don't have to make a bunch of requests here.
- This all said, I would love to have you at Commons. You're capable of performing the kind of careful work, and have the respect for categorization and organization, that would make you a very useful asset there even if you have no real interest in uploading images of your own. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 16:02, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for filling me in on the details, which were even more obscure than I had imagined. I will go look at the discussion you mention, and will send you rename requests as I encounter them. Reify-tech (talk) 17:36, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
Montreal Metro Templates
editHello Ege! I've started taking upon the task of creating templates for the Montreal Metro. I'm a bit rusty, so I started with the easiest (shortest) line first, and this is the result: Template:STM Blue Line. Any feedback is appreciated. Thank you! BostonUrbEx (talk) 17:39, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- Looks good so far. I'll make some minor tweaks when you have more of them finished, but some thoughts for now:
- What do the diverging routes link to?
- Can you show the connecting subway lines crossing, rather than merely the connection icon?
- Cheers, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:56, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the initial feedback! I've updated the template to address both issues you raised. I'll start work on Template:STM Green Line next, and will let you know when to take another look. Thank you! BostonUrbEx (talk) 01:24, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
- I've created Template:STM Green Line, however, I ran into an issue with showing Berri-UQAM station. It is a three-line transfer station. The Orange and Yellow lines are parallel, however there is no icon for a transfer station like what I'm looking for [as far as I know]. Maybe you have an idea for that? By the way, I'm also using this non-Wikipedia source, for some reference: Track Map. May need your help again for that super station when I do Template:STM Orange Line. Thank you! BostonUrbEx (talk) 13:45, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
- I've done a parallel-lines station for the time being; I might play with hub designs later. Let me know when you're ready for the superstation for the Orange and Yellow lines; since they're parallel I'll have room for a better design. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 14:51, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you, sir! It'll do, for now. I have created Template:STM Orange Line and hope you have an ideal solution for the super station on this one. BostonUrbEx (talk) 20:38, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
- Just an update, I finally found out how to do those overlay tricks, and have improved the superstation on Template:STM Orange Line. It looks like one single station now. If you any tweaks though, I'm all ears. BostonUrbEx (talk) 13:26, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you, sir! It'll do, for now. I have created Template:STM Orange Line and hope you have an ideal solution for the super station on this one. BostonUrbEx (talk) 20:38, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
- I've done a parallel-lines station for the time being; I might play with hub designs later. Let me know when you're ready for the superstation for the Orange and Yellow lines; since they're parallel I'll have room for a better design. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 14:51, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
- I've created Template:STM Green Line, however, I ran into an issue with showing Berri-UQAM station. It is a three-line transfer station. The Orange and Yellow lines are parallel, however there is no icon for a transfer station like what I'm looking for [as far as I know]. Maybe you have an idea for that? By the way, I'm also using this non-Wikipedia source, for some reference: Track Map. May need your help again for that super station when I do Template:STM Orange Line. Thank you! BostonUrbEx (talk) 13:45, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the initial feedback! I've updated the template to address both issues you raised. I'll start work on Template:STM Green Line next, and will let you know when to take another look. Thank you! BostonUrbEx (talk) 01:24, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
Solar cycles
editIn the AfD you say "If old observational images (i.e, notebook sketches) from observations at the time can be found, I would reconsider." In fact, many such images exist, going back to Galileo (1612, before cycle 1). Existing Wikimedia images cover cycles 2, 12, 14, 20, and 22 onwards. -- 101.117.91.154 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 05:36, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Naming standards
editThanks for the shoutout on my naming standards! To some extent it came naturally. I'm very town oriented, so it was important to me to have the town in the name. And I'm Wikipedia article oriented, so the first part of the name is often the name of the article. My only regret is that on some of my early pictures, I spell out the state. I soon moved to 2 letter code. Faolin42 (talk) 13:56, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
- Your naming scheme has definitely influenced my own, especially when I'm taking non-rail pictures. (I just grabbed a few for small towns in Virginia while I'm down here). I stopped following that RFC because I couldn't stand the flickr transfer folks who don't understand why filenames are important, but I wanted them to see what someone who cares about the results of their work looks like. Something to consider: I've started adding the year (and often month) to the file name. I realized that I do that whenever possible for old photos, but someday my photos may be old too. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:03, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
- Personally, I'm hoping Wikipedia lasts long enough for our current photos to appear old-fashioned. That's a big part of the appeal for me. Faolin42 (talk) 20:21, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Even in the short term it can be pretty neat. I've taken photos at Yawkey, Littleton/Route 495, and Orient Heights of stations that no longer exist. A lot of small-town depots in Connecticut are known only by photographs from this one photographer who drove around getting pictures of all of them; perhaps we'll be remembered that way too. Not a bad legacy to leave. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:49, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
MBTA Boat Template
editAny way we can work Template:MBTA Boat into MBTA Boat nicely? Doesn't work with the non-rail navbox. BostonUrbEx (talk) 19:47, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Done {{Infobox}} is normally a meta template, but it works well enough here. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:37, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
DYK for Bevan Sharpless
editOn 12 August 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bevan Sharpless, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Bevan Sharpless' observations of the orbital decay of Phobos led to speculation it was a hollow sphere created by Martians? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bevan Sharpless. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
More Viewliner spam
editI know you read Railroad.net but in case you're not obsessively following developments the test train is at Southampton Street Yard. I'm in Boston this weekend for a conference so if it's still there I'll try to get a shot myself. Is there a good vantage point? Mackensen (talk) 00:40, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- I actually haven't been on the forums in a few days due to being busy, so thanks for the notification. SHSY is not in the nicest area of Boston - a lot of rusted out industrial - but nothing terrible. Your best bet will be the Southampton Street bridge (a block from Andrew station); the view from there looks like this, and I've never been hassled there. The I-93 frontage road also has sidewalks; if they're on the west side of the building that's worth checking out. Good luck! Pi.1415926535 (talk) 12:28, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
Help needed on Wikimedia Commons
editI've used Cat-a-lot successfully on Wikimedia Commons before, but I messed things up today, and can't seem to fix them. Please look at my log (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Reify-tech) and help me clean up the stuff done today. The goal was just to add the files to the Category:Questacon. Please let me know what I did erroneously. Reify-tech (talk) 13:42, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oof, that's a weird error. It looks like the problem is that commons:Category:Questacon is a redirect to commons:category:National Science and Technology Centre. When you searched Questacon, it somehow loaded Category Redirects as the first potential target in Cat-a-lot. I'd recommend trying again moving/copying from a category to another category, which seems to work better than search results.
- To load a category in cat-a-lot, you have to hit enter in the cat-a-lot search bar and it should come up, showing the category as well as its parent and child categories. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 14:06, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for puzzling out what the problem was. I ended up using HotCat to individually fix up the categories file by file; I'm glad it was only a handful of files in question. I'll have to be ultra-careful to watch out for redirects, especially when using a powerful tool like Cat-a-lot.
- There's also a lingering mystery I discovered, but did not create: These files [1] seem to be duplicates of some of these files [2], but the lack of filenames or other information at the first location is unsettling. I'm afraid to touch them, until I understand what's going on here. Reify-tech (talk) 14:42, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- That first page is a gallery page; they normally should have description and feature a selection of the best images on that subject. See Tour Eiffel for a quality example. Galleries were very popular in the first few years of Commons but have largely been replaced by categories for finding images. As long as images are properly categorized, don't worry about galleries. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 16:14, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Now I see the "Gallery" tab at the upper left of the first page. I agree that categories are what matters, and galleries should be reserved for special showcases like the example you gave. Thank you for enlightening me! Reify-tech (talk) 16:44, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
Could you weigh in?
editThere's a deletion discussion here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2014_August_29#August_29 And I would appreciate if you weighed in, on either side of the discussion. Or, even better, if you have the time could you place those templates in their respective articles? Thanks! BostonUrbEx (talk) 11:32, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
- Seems like it's already been taken care of, but I'll do some work on the templates. The Wildcat Branch I'm going to cut down to the branch itself, and the Grand Junction needs some additions. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:25, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Before you decide to add any more condescending remarks on my talk...
editCould you please stop message bombing my talk page with comments like "get off your high horse." I created an article that you didn't like and you've made your opinion clear and gotten the page merged after less than 24 hours of discussion. Good for you. Now stop.Monopoly31121993 (talk) 17:37, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Lynn (MBTA station)
editHi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Lynn (MBTA station) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Coemgenus -- Coemgenus (talk) 16:21, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Lynn (MBTA station)
editThe article Lynn (MBTA station) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Lynn (MBTA station) for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Coemgenus -- Coemgenus (talk) 12:21, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
- Don't know if you saw this, but I left a few comments at Lynn (MBTA station) that require your attention. --Coemgenus (talk) 13:31, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Lynn (MBTA station)
editThe article Lynn (MBTA station) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Lynn (MBTA station) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Coemgenus -- Coemgenus (talk) 00:03, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Dear Pi,
could you update this diagram and publish the data as CSV?--Kopiersperre (talk) 20:43, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
- @Kopiersperre:: I haven't yet seen good data for 2014, so I'm waiting for that. If you have a good source, I can update it sooner. Commons doesn't accept .csv files, but after the file is updated you can email you and I can send you the .csv original. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:34, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Rape Culture
editWould you be so kind as to point me where in the talk section this problem is mentioned ? I see no problem calling rape culture a hypothesis, a theory or a social theory. My source of concern come from the designation of rape culture as a scientific theory. By its very nature , true or false ,the rape culture theory is not testable , and cannot make any falsifiable prediction. In order to comply with the scientific method , the rape culture hypothesis would need to be widely accepted by objective social scientists (inside as much as outside feminist academia). As I pointed out in my last edit , the lead paragraph of the article claim that there is a disagreement about the definition of rape culture itself, which discard it as a scientific theory. No explanation can achieve a higher status than a scientific theory. You cannot objectively put rape culture on the same level as evolution theory , plate tectonic theory and the big bang theory. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.50.69.45 (talk) 04:16, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Peck Tavern photo
editHi, I believe your photo of the Peck Tavern in Lisbon, CT, is of the wrong building. (You can compare to the National Register photos; the buildings differ in some pretty obvious elements.) Based on satellite imagery, it looks like the building you pictured is on the west side of the street, while the tavern is on the east. Is it possible the street numbers have changed? Magic♪piano 17:41, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
- Yep, I done messed up. Thanks for noticing. NRHP photos are not my usual specialty; I just went after those while I was in the area. I'm going to nominate it for deletion - it's a useless photo of a random private residence. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:42, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
Old GTR stations
editI recently created {{St. Lawrence and Atlantic line map}}, which you kindly corrected for me. The main purpose was that creators of some articles for the former GTR stations along that line were putting every one of those in the "See also" section of the articles. They are adequately covered by the category and otherwise do not directly relate. I only created the map because the editors seemed to require some upfront link - and that was not the way to do it. Since you have better local knowledge than I do, could you please have a look at the stations. If I am wrong, I might as well delete the template. Secondarywaltz (talk) 03:20, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- That editor is apparently ignorant of the purposes of categories, to say nothing of proper naming conventions. There is absolutely no need to link anything remotely similar (like stations merely on the same system) in the see also links. They should also be renamed either to XXX station or XXX (Grand Trunk station); the latter has more precedent but a recent policy seems to support the former. Except for Union Station and Penn Station and other proper names, the primary part of the article title should be the name in general use (for rural stations, this is almost always the city name). I have also replied in the thread on your talk page. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 16:49, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- In Canada the naming convention would be XXX railway station, unless it has a proper name or requires disambiguation. I will be changing the Canadian ones, but will not mess with New England. There is an ongoing discussion (somewhere) to standardize US station names without the company name - but let's not get into that here. I will also refine the GTR categories. Thanks for the feedback. Secondarywaltz (talk) 21:09, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Bradford Station
editI think the problem with Wikipedia is that users may reasonably disagree about what constitutes useful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lexcie (talk • contribs) 00:38, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Looking to attribute your work
editI apologize for posting on your page but I could not find an e-mail address to contact you directly. My company is interested in using one of your photos for commercial purposes - an old industrial dam at Cargill Falls and we want to ensure that you get appropriate credit. Could you please e-mail me at [removed to avoid spam]? Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.60.84.2 (talk) 14:17, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
- Don't apologize - this is the proper way to contact me! I've emailed you and removed the email here to prevent you from getting spammed. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 17:19, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Question regarding MBTA locomotives section
editHi Pi,
In the locomotive inventory thing for the MBTA Commuter Rail page, it indicates that there are ex-Amtrak "Screamers" in the MBTA's possession. However, the document says they are only stored right now, even though I saw ex-Amtrak #274 running revenue service for the Fitchburg Line just last week. I would rather not add things unsourced though, so I was wondering if you had anythinrg or knew anything at all regarding that?
On a side note, so sad to see the MBTA Screamers go. I updated the MBTA Commuter Rail page earlier because every MBTA Screamer except one was taken out of service very recently. I remember back in the late 90s, when all the Fitchburg Line trains either had a Screamer or a GP40 on it. I also remember the days before South Station was electrified and you took a NortheastDirect with an Amtrak Screamer (and sometimes a GE Genesis P42 as well) either leading or trailing down to New Haven, where you'd switch to one with an AEM-7 (which is also being retired) to go to New York. At least the old Amtrak ones are being put to use, ans hopefully something similar will happen with the MBTA ones. As much as I like the new HSP46 locomotives for MBTA and the ACS-64 ones for Amtrak, it realy stinks to see the trains of your early childhood go. Oh well :) Sportsguy17 (T • C) 22:49, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- The NETransit roster is updated on a fanatically regular basis by someone clearly on the inside; rumor has it that this is allowed by MBTA management because they find it such a useful tool themselves. The seven ex-Amtrak locos (274, 293, 301, 302, 310 (ex 392), 330 (ex 365), 418 (ex 318)) are not MBTA-owned; they are being leased on a short-term basis from Rail World until the full HSP-46 fleet is in operation. 274 was indeed on the northside for a few weeks; I managed to grab a picture. However, it appears that it suffered fire damage in the cab on July 4; given that there have been no sightings reported on railroad forums since then, I suspect Keolis has taken them out of service for the time being. I will add them to the article. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 15:07, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- I snagged a picture of it in Belmont Center last week (I'm debating about uploading it to Commons). I hadn't heard that there was fire damage to it though. Sportsguy17 (T • C) 17:25, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Definitely upload it! On-off and limited-time things like this are always worth uploading - often it's the only documentation that will ever exist. That's why I upload a lot of photos of stations under construction; in many cases, they're the only photos that exist of it. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:32, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Here is my picture from last week. I took with my iPhone 6, so it's not terrible quality at least. I also decided to take a peak at your photos and tell me if I'm wrong, but it looks like little progress has been made on the new South Acton station. It will be a nice station when it's finished, but crews should try getting a move on. In general, the Fitchburg and Framingham/Worcester lines are the worst. They have poor on-time performances due to freight and other junk and contain very few handicap-accessible stations. They should consider focusing on building nice new accessible stations and consolidate the lightly used one on both lines (good that they're finally double tracking the Fitchburg Line). It's a little sad that Wellesley has three stations and none of them are handicap-accessible. Either way, the MBTA's getting better about improving accessibility but has a long way to go. Sportsguy17 (T • C) 23:52, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- South Acton is indeed making progress - most of the steel should be up this month, and the station substantially complete and fully open by the end of the year. There was a major issue with a steel supplier not meeting quality standards, it appears, that set them back a while.
- With rare exception (Weston, perhaps Melrose) consolidation is a dangerous game. It tends to leave you with park-and-ride dumps that aren't convenient to much of anything and don't support walk-ups and good TOD. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:14, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Good to hear that progress is being made, because that is one of the Fitchburg Line's most heavily used stations and hopefully they can get track work done soon because it must be hard for some people to not have that option on weekends until November.
- Your argument regarding consolidation makes sense now that I think about it. For example, if they closed Waverly and redid Belmont Center, then the town would become a mess, especially given the lack of parking dedicated to the station, so over-consolidation is definitely very risky. However, I do wonder how the MBTA is able to keep stations like Silver Hill and Plimptonville open, as they only receive a handful of riders over a few trains a day and appear to not be located where heavy ridership would be possible. Sportsguy17 (T • C) 02:10, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Belmont/Waverly and Ayer/Shirley consolidations were floated early on in the project and quickly shot down. The former two are village centers and bus connections; the latter two are also village centers, and Shirley despite appearances pulls as many riders as North Leominster or Littleton (though some of that is Ayer residents who don't have parking room in Ayer - see my recent edits on that article).
- The remaining limited-service and bare-platform stops are all one-off cases, but they largely share the fact that reducing station stops to a bare minimum is easy (just keep the train(s) that the politically connected riders use - it's for their benefit, not true full-service transit) but actually abandoning a stop is a difficult political process. It costs very little to keep a bare asphalt platform (no maintenance like with mini-highs) especially if the town does upkeep; as a public agency the T does not pay taxes on the station land so there's no real incentive to sell like the private railroads did. The T hasn't actually abandoned a station (and not reopened it) since the 1980s: Gardner terminated in 1987 due to low ridership and Amtrak vs. Guilford turf wars, Harbor which closed in 1984 and didn't reopen in 1985 due to low usage, Pawtucket which closed in 1981 and didn't reopen in 1988 due to station condition (but replaced in 1990 by South Attleboro, and may be rebuilt by 2020), Oak Grove in 1985 (replaced by Malden as the Orange Line transfer), Woburn Branch stations in 1981 (track conditions), and Shawsheen in 1980 (low ridership after 1979 reopening).
- As for the actual barely-there stations: North Wilmington, Kendal Green, and Shirley are actual full-time stations; River Works has a substantial GE commuting population, Mishawum is kept due to the difficulty of termination (though its mini-highs were partially removed) and as a probably future DMU infill, Pride's Crossing and Plimptonville as political-keeps that don't bother the T much, and the two excess Weston stops are because Weston doesn't make sense. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 14:59, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Indeed, I now see the progress South Acton is making and it looks good. I wonder how Wachusett is coming long. They seem to be taking their sweet ol' time with that.
- Some of those barely-there stations do receive decent ridership, it was mostly the stops that receive 30> people a day that I was curious about, but if they are convenient for some and requires nothing to keep them open, then I guess they work. Some of those barely-there stations are quite popular indeed. However, I feel like a lot of stations in villages and centers on those western lines are inaccessible and hopefully if Governer Baker moves forward with improving the MBTA that redoing stations in Belmont, Waverly, Concord, Lincoln, Newton, Wellesley, etc. are a part of it.
- I'll be interested to see the fate of Mishawum. Its in a very nice location and already has the layout of a handicap accessible statoon, but it is in disrepair right now. When Anderson was built, I expected it to mostly be a transfer station, but I guess it turned into Woburn's main station. Interesting. Sportsguy17 (T • C) 11:54, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
New (to Wikipedia) Amtrak source
editYou might find {{Hilton-Amtrak}} an interesting read on Amtrak's origins and economic viability 1971-1980. I'm wary of the AEI as a source but Hilton's reputation is (as far as I know) impeccable. Mackensen (talk) 01:53, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- He has a good reputation for straight factual information, and he's certainly useful for that. But he (befitting his institution) was consistently hostile to Amtrak with some rather odd arguments, and I would take those section of that report with a rather substantial grain of salt. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 13:52, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Egleston (MBTA station)
editOn 1 August 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Egleston (MBTA station), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Egleston was, until 1987, an elevated rapid transit station on the MBTA's Orange Line? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Egleston (MBTA station). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
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Your GA nomination of Yawkey (MBTA station)
editHi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Yawkey (MBTA station) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sportsguy17 -- Sportsguy17 (talk) 18:20, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
Hey
editHey Pi,
Hope all is well with you. I have a few questions/comments for you. First off, the Yawkey station article is looking good and I'll have some more feedback shortly (not much is left as far as I'm concerned). The rebuilding process was very interesting. Every time I went down the Masspike in that direction, I'd always see more and more come up on that station. I also remember the old station. It was a nice little station and ADA friendly, but by the turn of the century, it clearly was not sufficient for what it served size and layout wise.
Second thing: do you happen to have a more recent picture from the South Acton construction (i.e, past two weeks or so)? I haven't heard much on that lately and I'm quite curious.
Final thing (I know I'm late on this by almost a month, but I've been away a lot in the past 4-6 weeks); Sad to see the Screamers go for real. I personally thought they were really nice locos and they lasted a long time (pretty sure they started operating in the mid to late 70s if I'm not mistaken). Nowadays, the Fitchburg Line is dominated by HSP46 and GP40s (with the occasional newer F40s). Very sad to see old locos leave, but at least the new ones are nice. Sportsguy17 (T • C) 03:40, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for your guidance on Yawkey. It was the first article I majorly improved, so getting it to GA will be very satisfying for me.
- Unfortunately I am not particularly close to South Acton most of the year. I may or may not be able to get out there until November. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:58, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- While this may be the case, you're the go-to for all things MBTA and you're the one we can count on to create quality content in this topic. As a fellow Bostonian, I'm of some help, but not a ton. In my town (which is actually pretty close to downtown Boston), the only MBTA service we get is two MBTA bus routes that don't run particularly frequently.
- With regards to South Acton, that is perfectly ok. I most likely won't be out there anytime soon either. It was merely a minor curiosity of mine. Seeing the progress of construction somewhat frequently can be very fascinating in my opinion. Sportsguy17 (T • C) 03:26, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- I'll be getting back to Yawkey shortly. Interestingly, there seem to be eight municipalities that have exactly two MBTA Bus routes: Reading and Wakefield (136 and 137), Lynnfield (434 and 436 through a tiny corner), Winthrop (712 and 713), Stoneham (99 and 132), Winchester (134 and 350), Bedford (62 and 76), and Randolph (238 and 240). Some like Lexington have the very ends of a few more.
- I try to do that when I have the opportunity - I kept daily tabs on Yawkey when I was at BU, and a close eye on Assembly, and I'm now doing so for Silver line Gateway and the GLX when I can. I'm definitely in Boston through mid 2017 which will finish off SLG and get close to Phase 1 or GLX. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 16:27, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Yawkey (MBTA station)
editThe article Yawkey (MBTA station) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Yawkey (MBTA station) for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sportsguy17 -- Sportsguy17 (talk) 03:40, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Talkback
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Your GA nomination of Yawkey (MBTA station)
editThe article Yawkey (MBTA station) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Yawkey (MBTA station) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sportsguy17 -- Sportsguy17 (talk) 02:01, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
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editMessage added 21:24, 15 August 2015 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Your expertise is needed. Sportsguy17 (T • C) 21:24, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Barnum (Metro-North station)
editOn 16 August 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Barnum (Metro-North station), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a railroad station named after showman P.T. Barnum is planned to be built in Bridgeport, Connecticut? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Barnum (Metro-North station). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |