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Your ClueBot NG account is approved!

Hey PleaseStand, just letting you know that I approved you to start reviewing edits to train the new ClueBot NG. Click this link, sign in, read carefully through the instructions, and start reviewing! If you have any questions, you can leave them on my talk page, or log on to irc.cluenet.org and join the channel #cluebotng. Thanks! Tim1357 ^talk 22:43, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

My archiving

Thank you PleaseStand for extending my archiving to 30 days. --Frania W. (talk) 04:37, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Hide-Vector-sidebar script in other languages/projects?

Tried adding importScript("http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PleaseStand/hide-vector-sidebar.js"); to the appropriate vector.js page in German Wikipedia (User => Benutzer) to no avail. Is it possible to use this essential script in other language Wikipedias/Wiktionary? Thanks for fixing Vector! --Ajnrqm (talk) 13:46, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

You need the code importScriptURI("http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:PleaseStand/hide-vector-sidebar.js&action=raw"); because you are on another wiki. I have now added this to the documentation. PleaseStand ^(talk) 23:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

userinfo.js

The user groups "*" and "user" are now appearing for everyone. Could you please make changes similar to these to userinfo.js, so that they do not appear? Thanks in advance! Gary King (talk · scripts) 01:36, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

It's fortunate that I happened to be aware of the MediaWiki upgrade, as I have not made many edits recently (although I do try to stay logged in to receive talk page messages). Here's the short-term fix I performed. Really, I should reimplement the AJAX code using jQuery, so I will probably make additional changes soon. PleaseStand ^(talk) 03:18, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Was jQuery introduced only recently or has it been around for a while now? In my scripts I usually just grab stuff via the MediaWiki API since I don't usually need to modify any pages with the scripts. Gary King (talk · scripts) 03:22, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

jQuery had always been available for anyone using "beta" usability features such as the new edit toolbar (as they were developed using it from the start). Sometime last year, jQuery became available for everyone else as well. I don't remember exactly when because I had already started to take my break from Wikipedia. (It was definitely after I wrote my comment highlighter script; I had to load jQuery manually for that one, which I am currently updating.) jQuery is supposed to be the replacement for AJAX functions such as sajax_init_object(), which are now considered deprecated and subject to removal in a future MediaWiki release. PleaseStand ^(talk) 03:36, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Any chance you could also enable the script on a user's contribs page? Gary King (talk · scripts) 18:31, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

I've forked the script here. Gary King (talk · scripts) 04:30, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Pie chart

A compliment and a bug report; I wanted to say that I tried out {{Pie chart}} on Georgia Tech Research Institute and it looks great on desktop browsers, but that it doesn't render correctly on mobile Safari. If only there was a way to wrap the Google Chart API into a template... —Disavian (^talk/_contribs) 19:14, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh. Turns out there's a MediaWiki extension to do that: Extension:Gchart4mw. Figured you'd want to know, if you didn't already. —Disavian (^talk/_contribs) 19:22, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

hide-vector-sidebar.js

Works for me on Chrome 12, including the Alt+A shortcut. Thanks! Sean Flanigan (talk) 04:49, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Migrating refs (not working?)

I tried using your script (User:Piotrus/vector.js) to move refs from this article's body to the bottom, but it appears to do nothing (I see the red button, press it, click through it, it fills the edit summary, and that's it - it does no change to the article). See [1]. Also, you may want to see this discussion. PS. I was referred to your script from here. PPS. The green button function works as advertised, but it is only half of the work... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 17:59, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Re:Ago.jpg

It is the Art Gallery of Ontario. It used to illustrate that article, but it's of the pre-renovation building, and not a very good picture either. - SimonP (talk) 16:39, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Michael Stuar-Ware

• The article because it did not provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts or show that it meets the notability guidelines. It is now wikipedia policy that biographical articles about living people must have independent verifiable references. As a matter of policy, all biographies of living people will be deleted if they do not have references. I search to see the Pegasus page, but it did not appear to support the text and is not a proper neutral ref anyway, assuming I found the right page, just a publisher's blurb. It's helpful if you provide links to your refs.
• It was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic talented ...prodigy ... up-and-coming rock band ... world-famous ... The whole tone is unencyclopaedic and essay-like
• The article was lacked any wikilinks, and looked as if it was cut and pasted from an unknown and possibly copyrighted source. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy.

Our threshold may be low, but they do exist. This guy may be notable, but without wikilinks, proper refs and a more encyclopaedic tone, the article will fail as notability not established, unsourced or unencylcopaedic Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:08, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Segregate script

I've been evaluating/mildly hacking on a local copy of your cool script to see if we could use it to put references in list-defined references format to make wikitext more newbie/user friendly.

The conclusion I've come to so far is that it can be made to work without much problem, if anything your script does too much; I suspect that leaving <ref>...</ref> type references alone is probably preferable, people can always name them and listify them later if they wish (or perhaps they don't want to if it's a short ref).

The other problem is that list references seem to have got a bad rap.

I think it's because if people have to manually listify then it is a right pain and they may forget. But most people simply add references, and copy references around; which you can mostly do purely per-section, whether or not it's been listified. But with list-defined references to add references properly you need to edit the whole article- and it's been found that on high edit articles they were apparently getting more edit collisions, or that was the perception anyway.

Anyway, I was thinking a bot to listify could be much better, so people can be lazy; just add named refs locally, and your script was looking like it was almost there to do the heavy lifting. Perhaps if there's already a list in the article, the script would try to tidy it up. What do you think?Teapeat (talk) 06:44, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Pie Chart

Hi there, I was having an issue with a pie chart & was informed that you created pie charts on Wikipedia originally & was wondering if you could help. Basically I creating a pie chart with the intention of adding it to a football related page I created & ran into a problem I wanted to include 22 segments but the pie chart stopped working at the ninth despite whatever the percentages were. Is the Pie chart limited to 9 segments? Here is the pie chart in question as you can see if you go edit the tenth segment isn’t included. Regards (★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★) 20:44, 29 November 2011 (UTC))

Yes, this is in the documentation: "The labels and values of up to nine slices may be specified." I have added support for a tenth slice to show that it is possible. However, you can imagine how unwieldy and slow the template would become if it would support several times that number, and a better alternative to the current template system is not yet available on this wiki. Also, right now, this "experimental" template is broken on the mobile site, so I would be reluctant to add it to articles until it is fixed, considering the large number of people who browse using iOS and Android devices. While I consider how to best fix these problems (which could be a while), your best option might be to either make the graph in a program such as Microsoft Excel or LibreOffice and upload it to Wikimedia Commons or ask the Graphic Lab for help. It is possible they can also help you think of a better way to present the information. PleaseStand (talk) 21:26, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your efforts & reply, I didn’t realise the pie chart didn’t display properly on mobile devices. Unfortunately the only way I could split it would be to have 10 segments in one pie chart & twelve in another but I couldn’t really have an “other” segment with what I’m doing, so it wouldn’t fit. Have you any idea if bar charts display properly on mobile devices. (★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★) 22:14, 30 November 2011 (UTC))