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DYK for Opoczno S.A.
On 5 August 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Opoczno S.A., which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Smithsonian Channel documentary Treblinka: Hitler's Killing Machine was inspired by the bathroom tiles made by Opoczno S.A.? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Opoczno S.A.. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
GURK SMERSH
Thank u very much for looking in to it. I have done something with the reference codes. Bym był bardzo szczęśliwy i wdzięczny jak byś mi to pomógł naprawić.
Z pl Wikipedii skopiował tylko organizacja której jeszcze nie dodałem. Wziołem ją stamtąd dlatego że ja tam ją wsadziłem.
Artykuł należy poprawić gdyż jest w nim wiele nie ścisłości. Np. GUGB został zlikwidowany na początku lutego 41, i już nigdy nie powrócił w tej nazwie do NKVD jak mówi art.
Jeszcze raz bym był dla ciebie wdzięczny jak byś naprawił te kody. Wówczas bym się przyjżał jak to zrobiłeś i się nauczył.
Jeszcze raz proszę o pomoc i dziękuje. --Ataman (talk) 17:47, 4 August 2015 (UTC) Także NKGB lub GUGB NKVD, chcę poprawić.
- Witam, i dziękuję za wyjaśnienie. Domyśliłem się od razu że błędy techniczne wzięły się z braku doświadczenia, a nie z braku wiedzy. Ale faktu to nie zmienia. Efekt końcowy był taki że pozbawiłeś artykuł jego źródeł. – I’m not sure if you prefer to be addressed in Polish or in English, but regardless, you need to learn beforehand how to preformat the material you intend to add to English Wikipedia. Regarding your multiple errors introduced in our article SMERSH, please spend some time reading Wikipedia:Manual of Style and specifically Wikipedia:Citing sources. Thanks, Poeticbent talk 19:06, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
- Dziękuje ci jeszcze raz. Bardzo dziękuje za zrozumienie. Edytowałem na pl Wikipedii od 2004 i bardzo prawie nie umiałem pisać po polsku. Tam się nauczyłem. Tam rozbudowałem cały system p tajnych służbach oczywiście z pomocą kolegów i koleżanek. Ale masz racje muszę się zapoznać z techniką panującą. Ale tyle tego jest 😕. Dziękuje raz jeszcze.--Ataman (talk) 16:29, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- Always happy to help! Poeticbent talk 21:56, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Łuck Ghetto
On 7 August 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Łuck Ghetto, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the young Shmuel Shilo age thirteen survived three roundups of Jews from the Łuck Ghetto during the Holocaust in occupied Poland, and lived to tell the story? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Łuck Ghetto. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
DYK nomination of Tarnopol Ghetto
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I think we should have such a cat; pl wiki does. What do you think? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:25, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- Good idea. It will not be as impressive, mind you. In Polish Wikipedia we have: Strony w kategorii „Ofiary Sonderaktion Krakau” 83 spośród wszystkich 83 stron tej kategorii. In English Wikipedia we have the following :
- Tadeusz Banachiewicz
- Aleksander Birkenmajer
- Ignacy Chrzanowski
- Stanisław Estreicher
- Tadeusz Estreicher
- Stanisław Gołąb (matematyk)
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- Stanisław Klimecki
- Władysław Konopczyński
- Kazimierz Kostanecki
- Tadeusz Jan Kowalski
- Stanisław Kutrzeba
- Tadeusz Lehr-Spławiński
- Bogusław Leśnodorski
- Mieczysław Małecki
- Wiktor Ormicki
- Kazimierz Piwarski
- Jan Stanisławski (lexicographer) (anglista)
- Leon Tochowicz
Hi can u help me SMERSH?
When I transfer info from my brudnopis everything was OK. Because each edition has to be conform by the source in this case Vadim J. Birstein : SMERSH Stalin's Secret Weapon, Soviet military counterintelligence in ww2 ISBN 978-1-84954-108-4, when I have made that source and saved it, everything was OK, it kept the same number 19. U know I was looking the way u have made changes , after the first time I have ask u for help. Więc wiedziałem że źródło które wpisuje zatrzyma tem sam nr. Nie zatrzymało. Przestałem dodawać aby nie narobić większych kłopotów.
But when I use the same source again it come out as me 20.
W tabeli jaką zrobiłem używając tego samego źródła Vadim J. Birstein : SMERSH Stalin's Secret Weapon, Soviet military counterintelligence in ww2 ISBN 978-1-84954-108-4, pojawiły się problemy z nawiasami ( ) itd.
I'm very sorry, if am making problems for u, can u look in to it? Please. --Ataman (talk) 17:47, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Częstochowa Ghetto Uprising infobox
I've replaced it with the image frame approved by the community. If it had actually been an infobox, I might've found a replacement, like I've done at [1]. I don't know why you expect me to fill in these infoboxes for you. Alakzi (talk) 02:06, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Tarnopol Ghetto
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White Christmas
I am not a problem user, I was just trying to incorporate the Romanian probability chart on the page as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burebista96 (talk • contribs) 14:16, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- That's fine. Please add Romania, but keep your new section in proportion to the whole article, and try to avoid making a mess in the process. The flood of useless line breaks inside templates was a really bad idea. Cheers, Poeticbent talk 14:38, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
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There's this cool thing called wikidata. If you want to add a link to a foreign wikipedia, it's done there. Other people don't need to guess.AddMore der Zweite (talk) 06:08, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
I need your advise
Hi Poeticbent,
I have seen your involvment on the english wiki article about the uprising in ghettos during WWII.
The french page is :
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul%C3%A8vements_de_ghettos_durant_la_Seconde_Guerre_mondiale
I am very suprised to see that, there is only a few language's links (interwiki).
Even, there is no such a page in Hebrew neither in Yiddish nor in German !
Can you help to contact someones who will be able to start a page and do the connection with those two idioms ?
I should be able to start a page on the Portuguese wikipedia, may be on the German one ... But what about Polish ?
(Even if one of my great-grand-mothers was born "Mycielszka", I don't speak a word of Polish.)
Best regards,
--Millot (talk) 06:45, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, Millot. Thanks for asking. Our "Ghetto uprising" article is underdeveloped, with only the basic facts mentioned in it. The reason for this subject being generally under-represented in Wikipedia (with the exception of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising perhaps) is the scant representation of this entire subject in books on the one hand and on the other hand, the limited number of survivor testimonies available. There were far more uprising worth writing about, however, according to Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines unless they are all put together in a single monograph by a Holocaust historian with introductory notes, Wikipedia article about all of them would amount to (user-generated) synthesis of published material which is discouraged. The best example of how it could work is the Holocaust trains article (listing countries) with reliable sourcing throughout. By contrast, the ghetto uprising article features a short list of selected links to English language articles about Jewish ghettos, and little else. Available articles in other languages include Hebrew contrary to what you said, but the absence of the German and the Polish coverage is a complete surprise to me:
- Español
- Français
- Italiano
- עברית
- Русский
- Suomi
- Українська
- Hello Poeticbent, thank you for answering fast with all explanations. The hebrew article didn't exist at the very minute when I wrote to you, but it was done very quickly on the same day (Oct 26th) following my request to Ehud Amir (אהוד אמיר) an historian & writer working at Yad Vashem. --Millot (talk) 06:54, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Claude Lanzmann: Spectres of the Shoah
You deleted a thoroughly researched and referenced section of this article. Nomination refers to an active status of a film, whereby the award winner has yet to be decided. This refers to future awards. Your comment that " nominations" are what "you" do, not what "they" do " is nonsensical - please explain or expand upon your thinking. I will undo the change in the meantime.
Additional help requested: Please help add the film's poster to this page. It can be found here: http://www.indiewire.com/article/watch-holocaust-filmmaker-gets-in-over-his-head-in-exclusive-claude-lanzmann-spectres-of-the-shoah-clip-20151013
I attempted to add it previously and it was deleted. I am new to using Wikimedia Commons.
Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JetBlackIris (talk • contribs) 21:02, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
- I suggest you refrain from editing that article any further. You have created a single purpose account with the apparent, yet undisclosed WP:Conflict of interest. If you continue along the same lines, I will report you to administration. The goal of Wikipedia is to provide reliable, nonpartisan information. It is not a company or personal website. Your account may be blocked, if the disruption continues. Poeticbent talk 22:23, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
My account is not single purpose, as even a cursory glance at my editing history would have revealed. I suggest that you should be the one to refrain from editing the post any further. Unless you are trolling the page, deleting verifiable, factual information from a Wikipedia page for undisclosed reasons is breach of the site's terms. I ask you again: Your comment that " nominations" are what "you" do, not what "they" do " is nonsensical - your actions appear to be those of a troll. Please explain or expand upon your thinking, or I will report you to the site's administration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JetBlackIris (talk • contribs) 22:41, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Further to my prior comments, you may find this page helpful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution Note the following:
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Again, you are asked to explain your actions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JetBlackIris (talk • contribs) 22:46, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
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Hi @Poeticbent: You reverted my edits adding the {{press}} template to article talk pages where they had been mentioned by The Jewish Press, saying that you removed link to a groundless and ugly attack page written by an anon, whoever you are
and also you gotta do better than that
. I think you may feel that I may be in some way agreeing with the article or I am that anonymous writer. I want you to know that I am not that writer and I don't agree or disagree with the article/article subject, I added the template because these are articles that have been mentioned by a newspaper with a circulation of 50,000 a week (according to the wiki page) and the template's documentation says that the template should be used for press sources which discuss Wikipedia as a project
. I feel that your removal of the templates may not be totally WP:NPOV, as this is removing a certain opinion from Wikipedia, possibly trying to remove that argument totally. Alright, it is by an anonymous writer, but still, it is a press source (which isn't a minor publication) which mentions a Wikipedia article. I just wanted to present my reasoning for adding the templates, that's all. Thanks. Seagull123 Φ 23:25, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
- Please don't take it personally. The web is full of anonymous attacks on Wikipedia entries. They are not worth mentioning. Among the pillars of Wikipedia are the reliable third-party sources which fully justify the removal of this sort of nonsense. Poeticbent talk 23:35, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Jóżef and Wiktoria Ulma
Twoja stara has "no informative value"Dreamcatcher25 (talk) 19:02, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
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Schutzstaffel
Did I remove all this in one of my edits? If so, we're talking about a major system error or bug; I only intended to edit "Origins" and "Ideology and culture" sections me and Kierzek and Obenritter have been working on these past couple of days. I apologize in any case. Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 21:50, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- Nothing to worry about. Jonas Vinther. My edits were not relevant to your overhaul of that article, but thanks for asking. I appreciate that, Poeticbent talk 01:26, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- A lot of new work has been done to the main article now; see what you think. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 14:16, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, Kierzek, your edits are top notch. Thank you for removing the worst of the old original research from that article. I also hope that Jonas Vinther can learn something from that AN/I incident; namely, that it is not good enough to keep adding stuff without anchors and relying on others to fix their own shit. Our policy guidelines are definitely worth reading. The WP:DDE conduct issues which usually lead directly to AN/I per WP:REHASH include removing cited work provided by long established editors like us. Poeticbent talk 15:45, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the comments as to my work. The article needs another pair of eyes so if you have the time, give it a look. Kierzek (talk) 16:50, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- Will do. Thanks, Kierzek. But first, I need to find out what's happening with all this selective removal of sources. Poeticbent talk 20:06, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- I know you are well aware by now of the ANI as to Jonas Vinther. I knew he would probably do himself in someday, but it has gone way beyond that now. All of his articles will have to be reviewed for NPOV, copy-edited and RS sources checked; if they can be. I have to agree with your comment that too much good faith was accepted/assumed. Kierzek (talk) 23:46, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the update, Kierzek. You are correct. His contributions will have to be redacted for the glaring absence of reliable third-party sources. Please look at the article histories, because all his major contributions were made without corresponding citations. The main challenge is that this is going to be time consuming. [2],[3],[4],[5] Poeticbent talk
- Nick-D and K.e.Coffman have offered to re-work the section on The SS in WW II. Some changes and tweaks have already been done but as you will see on the talk page, the work on this section is far from finished. Kierzek (talk) 14:45, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Kierzek, sorry for a mild delay in responding to your post. What I do love about editing Wikipedia is that I can continue working on an article I just picked up, read books and documents in support of my research, and come back to the SS article when I'm finished with it, because all your new contributions will be there waiting for me in the article history to examine and comment on. No rush. Please, keep up the good work, Poeticbent talk 05:03, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
- A lot of new work has been done to the main article now; see what you think. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 14:16, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
My Edits @ Expulsion of the Germans
Please do not edit my remarks, Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines# Others' comments--Woogie10w (talk) 20:25, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- Take it easy. I did not edit your remarks, just added the i-link for better understanding. Read the guidelines under WP:TPOC (quote):
Editing comments / Others' comments: ... restrict the edits to formatting changes only and preserve the content as much as possible. Examples include ... providing wikilinks if it helps in better navigation.
My wikilink provided was compliant with the policy guidelines, but if you wish I won't do it of course. Thanks, Poeticbent talk 20:55, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
- Take it easy. I did not edit your remarks, just added the i-link for better understanding. Read the guidelines under WP:TPOC (quote):
- Note well Wolgang Sheider and Theodor Shieder are different persons, regards--Woogie10w (talk) 00:41, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Wulf Kansteiner did not mention figure of 6 million Germans evacuated or the Sheider commission, regards--Woogie10w (talk) 01:01, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
- I'm trying my best here, but a lot of times things just don't add up. Numbers are thrown around: references don't match because of constant changes to copytext. Richard Bessel says that by the end of 1944 only 1,754,000 remained in West Prussia out of 2,346,000 people, that's all. I don't know where these numbers come from.
This 1945 Germany book seems like great pop history, not serious
[6] Please look also at what what he quotes from Overmans on another page in his book. [7] Poeticbent talk 01:06, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
- I'm trying my best here, but a lot of times things just don't add up. Numbers are thrown around: references don't match because of constant changes to copytext. Richard Bessel says that by the end of 1944 only 1,754,000 remained in West Prussia out of 2,346,000 people, that's all. I don't know where these numbers come from.
- Hello, we are on the same page [8]--Woogie10w (talk) 01:22, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
- Re West Prussia, that is a province created in 1939 in occupied Poland, the Polish corridor and Danzig. These Nazi figures include Poles, the search service base population for "Germans" is 1,105,338. The 1944 figure I suspect is based on ration cards. Two flavors of ration cards German or Pole, depending on language spokenWoogie10w (talk) 01:37, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
- Re Beer, he discusses the complexity of determining the correct figure of expulsion losses and that Overmans says we need to investigate topic. The book is a serious academic study, I will try to shoot a copy at the NYPL --Woogie10w (talk) 01:51, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
- My POV is very simple, I look at a stack of historical sources in the English language that say 2 million died, that is my straw man. On Wikipedia we need to explain why sources in German like Haar, the Hahn's, Nietschke and Overmans that say 500-600,000 are correct. We must assume most folks don't read German, so we need to present both sides of the argument and convince them that the figure of 2 million is historical myth. That's called a NPOV.--Woogie10w (talk) 02:05, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
- BTW, I really don't care about the concept of German victimhood, I just want to get the numbers right. For me it's just another accounting problem--Woogie10w (talk) 02:10, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
- I can see you are giving your best, but I think I need a break, Poeticbent talk 02:16, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
- You should stay, we need to cover the topic of German victimhood, I heard that POV in Germany 40 years ago and learned to keep my mouth shut--Woogie10w (talk) 02:20, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
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Names of cities
Hello. Can I ask you sir what are the results of the Gdańsk vote? It seems to me that the results themselves do not mention anywhere that the name Danzig must be included in the lead of the city's article. What is the method or the rules for deciding which names to include in the lead? It seems that some names have special status and are mentioned in the lead unlike others which remain only in the name or the etymology section. Why? Also cities in Poland have quite many German names in their leads, but if you add a Polish name of a city in Germany for example your revision is undone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2430:3:2500:0:0:B807:3DA0 (talk) 10:54, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
Nazi propaganda
Please don't use Nazi propaganda photos as a reference as you did here. Neither is a picture a WP:RS nor is a picture, produced for Nazi propaganda purposes, suitable to prove anything but Nazi propaganda claims. HerkusMonte (talk) 15:14, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
- Fine with me, Poeticbent talk 17:34, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
Mistake on your user page
Hi. I was just browsing you user page and spotted a mistake. Per the source, Danah Boyd is (or was) based at MIT. The paper was presented at the University of Surrey. I thought you might like to know. Cordless Larry (talk) 10:21, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, Cordless Larry, your input is much appreciated. According to http://www.danah.org/bio.html followed by http://www.danah.org/danahCV.pdf:
Dr. boyd received a bachelor's degree in computer science from Brown University, a master's degree in sociable media from MIT Media Lab, and a Ph.D in Information from the University of California, Berkeley in 2008. She is ... a Visiting Professor at New York University (2011-present) including 2011-2014: Research Assistant Professor, and 2014-present: Visiting Professor. Her paper Sexing the Internet: Reflections on the Role of Identification in Online Communities was presented at the University of Surrey on 21- 22 June 2001 from MIT Media Lab.
- What do you think? Should we change it to MIT Media Lab or maybe, to the New York University? Poeticbent talk 13:56, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
- How about "then of MIT Media Lab"? Cordless Larry (talk) 14:32, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
- Perfect, Poeticbent talk 14:36, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
- What do you think? Should we change it to MIT Media Lab or maybe, to the New York University? Poeticbent talk 13:56, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
Why the attack?
Why did you propose to ban me here? [9]. All of my tangles have been with disruptive editors and explained by those disruptions. When you were banned I had vouched for you to be brought back, given your many useful contributions to non-politicized topics.Faustian (talk) 19:49, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
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Hi, whatever happened after you posted this? The other editor had been disinvited from editing WWII topics, so perhaps it's a good time to revisit?" K.e.coffman (talk) 02:11, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
Recent addition to Waffen-SS foreign volunteers and conscripts
You added to this cited sentence at the end which now states: "At its peak, the Waffen-SS numbered almost a million men including Hitler Youth."ref name="Madej151".
The problem is, the Waffen-SS numbered over 800,000 men at its peak, per most sources in estimates and some estimates are even higher. I cannot preview your cite as Google books will not show it. The Hitler Youth were a separate branch of the Nazi Party and should not be counted as part of the Waffen-SS; which the end of the sentence now seems to imply. I look forward to your reply. Kierzek (talk) 23:02, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
- I did not write "one million". Somebody else did. – Please look at the last paragraph in this snapshot of one page from Madej, under the heading Wartime Recruiting for the Waffen SS: Right in the middle of that paragraph the sentence reads: After 1943 a great amount of pressure was exerted on members of the Hitler Youth to 'volunteer' for the Waffen-SS. Perhaps you can find a better way of summarizing or explaining that statement. I don't know, but to me it looks like a historical fact. Poeticbent talk 04:31, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- BTW, I received this snapshot (hand-made) along with several other pages from the book by W.V. Madej (1981), German Army Order of Battle 1939 - 1945 via gmail.com from Woogie10w. Perhaps he would like to chip in. Thanks in advance, Poeticbent talk 04:44, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- It is the way it is written is the problem; it does not say, "volunteered for the Waffen-SS". I can tweak it. Thanks, Kierzek (talk) 12:47, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- The 12th SS was named Hitler Jugend and was formed mainly from Hitler Jugend.
- As for the numbers, W.V. Madej implies that that was the total number who served in the SS. I know and respect W.V. Madej , he is a knowledgeable person.
- According to the Overmans study Deutsche militärische Verluste im Zweiten Weltkrieg on pages 159-166 the data base of the post war German search service Deutsche Dienststelle (WASt) includes only those of "German ancestry" -"Deutsche nach Abstammung" , and foreign nationals in western Europe. Deutsche Dienststelle did not include files for non-Germans in eastern Europe. Overmans on page 257 estimated 900,000 served in the SS and 314,000 were war dead,excluding non-Germans in eastern Europe'. He went on to say that if 1,000,000 men served in the Waffen SS their casualty rate would be the same as the Army. Overmans noted that if the non-Germans "Nicht-Deutschen" "non-Germans" were included that would perhaps present a different picture. Overmans on page 214 put the Waffen SS strength at the end of the war at 500,000.--Woogie10w (talk) 11:49, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks, Kierzek (talk) 12:47, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- According to the Overmans study Deutsche militärische Verluste im Zweiten Weltkrieg on pages 159-166 the data base of the post war German search service Deutsche Dienststelle (WASt) includes only those of "German ancestry" -"Deutsche nach Abstammung" , and foreign nationals in western Europe. Deutsche Dienststelle did not include files for non-Germans in eastern Europe. Overmans on page 257 estimated 900,000 served in the SS and 314,000 were war dead,excluding non-Germans in eastern Europe'. He went on to say that if 1,000,000 men served in the Waffen SS their casualty rate would be the same as the Army. Overmans noted that if the non-Germans "Nicht-Deutschen" "non-Germans" were included that would perhaps present a different picture. Overmans on page 214 put the Waffen SS strength at the end of the war at 500,000.--Woogie10w (talk) 11:49, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Whatever happened to Good Faith?
Good evening, Poeticbent. Words like "dump", "claim" and the presumptions you have made about me are far from welcoming or friendly, and based on what evidence, please? If you are an example of old lags on Wikipedia, then I am not sure it's worth contributing or continuing. My suggestion to you is: get more rest and you may be less intemperate in your judgment. Regards, --Po Kadzieli (talk) 20:42, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
- The article contains errors.
- English language academic reference would be the best. The old book and Polish language text of unclear origins are controversial.Xx236 (talk) 06:40, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
The article doesn't describe the role of Namier. I have added a link, I don't know the subject yet to describe it here.Xx236 (talk) 12:07, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
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- Thanks, Davey2010. Wishing you all the best in return. Poeticbent talk 03:28, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
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- Thanks, Davey2010. Same to you! Poeticbent talk 16:55, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
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- Thanks, Davey2010. Same to you! Poeticbent talk 16:55, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Support for 10-15 million
I sent you a jpg with the figure of 10-15 million in Hahn & Hahn.--Woogie10w (talk) 08:33, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
John Mann
Just a heads up that I did click the "hotlink", I read the whole article and I couldn't see any kind of anti-Polish sentiment or "tenets of those operations" apparently living in his heart. The idea that the article sympathises with ex-Nazi secret police officers is bizarre. Rapido (talk) 18:54, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
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Thanks for critic and szczesliwy nowy rok!
Thanks for critic - its just done. Have a good New Year! Ruessen-Kleinstorckwitz (talk) 09:41, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Regarding Shoah
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Please see the talk page for this film to understand why you are incorrect, and why I have once again reverted your edit. AndrewOne (talk) 03:10, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
So should it get deleted?
Because of your edit at [10] File:Nazi Lithuanian poster.JPG is no orphaned and will be deleted shortly. I think it's a loss of valuable historical image, but I am not sure what other article would be appropriate for that. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:56, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
- The copyright claim on that image is fake. The poster could be reloaded from any online source directly into Commons. BTW, there's not enough info about who really published it, when, and why. Snyder remarks that probably it was published in 1941. Probably, but not a word about the publisher. The assertion, that the poster was published by the Germans is doubtful. Poeticbent talk 17:28, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
- I guess that is falls under commons:Template:Anonymous-EU. 1941+70=2011, so I you are right, it is PD. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:17, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
Notable?
Your thoughts on Jadwiga Lenartowicz Rylko? There is a book published by a uni on her, so probably passes, would you agree? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 23:00, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks Piotrus. I fixed it already. Poeticbent talk 01:51, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
Another recent article of interest that is easy to miss: Paul Nguyen Cong Anh. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:21, 14 February 2016 (UTC)