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Territories vs State of Palestine

This and this refers. There is a chaotic situation at present with infoboxes for entities in the occupied West Bank (I can show you examples) which is what I was trying to remedy with my edits. How do you suggest I go about doing this? The most recent discussion is here. Thanks.Selfstudier (talk) 11:26, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

@Selfstudier: I don't want to get involved in the content discussion. I was just replying to an error report at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#problem in Battle of Yarmouk article. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:35, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

That error disappeared on the sites I was looking at once I finished my edits. That Yarmouk article is using some kind of combined map (I suppose there could be others doing similar) and why it throws the error. By the looks of it, instead of renaming/redirecting to fix all at once I will have to create State of Palestine in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Location_map/List from scratch and then fix problem pages one by one. Ah, well. Sorry to have bothered you.Selfstudier (talk) 12:09, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

@Selfstudier: It may have worked before [1]. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:12, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

That's the one I mentioned up above, I thought it was connected with you but seems it was independent action, looking at the times, that was done, forcing you to fix the other. If you don't mind, save me writing it all again, I will @Mykhal: here and ask him for any suggestion/why did he revert, maybe some other side effect.Selfstudier (talk) 12:31, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

​​ I did after visiting Cave of the Patriarchs massacre and seeing a huge red error message in the infobox. I have evaluated the data page moving as vandalism, I have moved it to its original location (with expectation that the link will be kept). Regards, —Mykhal (talk) 12:38, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

@Mykhal: I can assure you it was not vandalism, the situation is as I explained above. I am not sure why that particular infobox threw the error, it has {{Location map | Palestinian territories in it, which is not the usual thing, the map is correct because Palestinian territories and State of Palestine are the same map but with different names (look at the caption). What is happening on some other pages is that people are writing "Palestine" there and which is redirecting to "Palestinian territories" (again). So is it correct that I need to do State of Palestine from scratch (in the list) and then relevant article pages one by one to fix this up?Selfstudier (talk) 12:50, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Best wishes from Switzerland

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Spread the goodness of Toblerone bars by adding {{subst:Toblerone for you}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message!

Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 19:43, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Self-categorisation

Hi, one or both of this edit or this one have put Category:European portals inside itself, which should not happen. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:06, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

@Redrose64: Thanks for spotting this. Fixed with a leading colon.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 19:50, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:59, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Revdel request at the Teahouse

Hi PrimeHunter, hope you're doing well. A user has added a {{copyvio-revdel}} template at the Teahouse (specifically for revisions 998936069 to 998938264 inclusive). Any chance you could do that so the template can be removed? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:34, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

@Tenryuu: Done. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:54, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Table size on list of number one box office films

That table size change you did on Lists of box office number-one films was too small for desktop users and it was an eyesore from it. I had to reverted back to the original size. BattleshipMan (talk) 16:51, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

South Australian Railways K class (narrow gauge)

Hello PrimeHunter
Please weigh my remarks at Talk:South Australian Railways K class (narrow gauge)#Use of templates. To the best of my knowledge "ins" is not a legitimate abbreviation for inches. Peter Horn User talk 16:39, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for backing me up. This guy appears to be clueless. That said, this guy has a number of articles waiting in his sand box User:SCHolar44#Subpages to this User page and they'll all feature the anomaly "ins". I'll keep an eye on that and alert you. Btw, Aussies proved to be very good at putting data in the wrong field of locomotive templates, i.e. putting "3000 V DC" in "power supply". Peter Horn User talk 19:46, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

I put a note at User talk:SCHolar44#Templates Peter Horn User talk 21:42, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello again. Our friend does not like either Template:Convert or Template:Track gauge. He does not consider the latter "mandatory". This is a gross insult to all those who over the years have worked to expand the content of both templates. "Australian usage" has no place in Wikipedia. All other Australian locomotive articles consistently use both. Methinks this fellow needs further and additional education. He has wiped out all my revisions on "his" article as if he owns it. Yeah right. May I suggest that you look at all revisions from the time that I first introduced templates. I could revise again but I don' want to start a war. Peter Horn User talk 20:57, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

@Peter Horn: I have started with a request at Template talk:Track gauge#Comma off option. If the comma can be avoided then it may be easier to get along. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:24, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

FWIW, I strongly suggest to keep the talk in one place. Much easier to follow ;-) Have a nice edit. -DePiep (talk) 23:23, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

@DePiep: Then, could we gave a similar request at Template talk:Convert and Template talk:Long ton? Peter Horn User talk 23:38, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

What's Long ton gotta do with it? After me asking to keep it simple? -DePiep (talk) 23:43, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

@Peter Horn: As I mentioned at Template talk:Track gauge#Comma off option, {{convert}} already has the option. {{long ton}} does not but it's written in template language and not Lua so there are more editors who can work on it. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:47, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

@DePiep: Template:Long ton is used in many info boxes of old Australian etc. locomotives including this one and this one as well. Peter Horn User talk 00:08, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Peter Horn: What is your question (in a sentence)? -DePiep (talk) 00:15, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

I did not have a question as such, only an observation about the use of Template:Long ton Peter Horn User talk 00:29, 13 January 2021 (UTC) Peter Horn User talk 00:37, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

re PH: Then let's not bother other person's talkpage. Have a good night. -DePiep (talk) 00:31, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Inquiry from American journalist

Hi Jens,

I just emailed you, but I'll post this here also. I'm a writer for The Ringer, the American tech, culture, and sports site. We're running a package of Wikipedia-related articles this Friday for the 20th anniversary of Wikipedia, and I'm working on an article about the wonderfully entertaining "Lamest edit wars" page. According to the page stats, you're the all-time leader in text added to the page. Could you tell me a little bit about your involvement with the page? For example, what drew you to it, what you enjoy about it, how you've improved it, and what your favorite edit war is? I'd love to include a few thoughts from you in my story. My deadline is late Thursday, Eastern Time. Hope to hear back!

Thank you,

Ben Lindbergh
Staff Writer, The Ringer
@BenLindbergh — Preceding unsigned comment added by BenLindbergh (talk • contribs) 16:53, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. Just posted a follow-up on my Talk page. BenLindbergh (talk) 18:59, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for website=hide parameter

 Done THANKS! I just stopped reading in the Infobox OS documentation and completely missed it. I guess I have been spoiled with the bolding in other parts of the documentation.

On the positive side, I did find out how to and then I updated the Wikidata too. It did change my perception of what Wikidata is and how is is used.

So again, THANKS! Lent (talk) 04:02, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

React web framework talk mentions thoroughly that is not a framework

Thank you for the input. It has been helpful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:React_(web_framework)#Criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:React_(web_framework)#React_is_a_library,_NOT_a_framework

Under your cited https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:React_(web_framework)#Requested_move_9_August_2019 area The supporting consistency of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_(web_framework) has framework components such as a router, whereas react has a 3rd part library outside of react. This tends to be the case repeatedly through their comparisons. Similarly for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knockout_(web_framework)

This would seem to suggest that supporting consistency is lacking. I'm not autoconfirmed yet and such a request to change the page I am unable to make. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jsframeworkdev (talk • contribs) 10:33, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@Jsframeworkdev: You can request a move. It's only the actual move you cannot make. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:39, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

The request I think it's saying needs more edits for that to be an option? Or is there something else I'm missing? From the talk logs? It seems sufficient that React being a library has been addressed with detailed and professional sources with expert professional comparisons since July 2019 all the way till present for Wikipedia documentation efforts.

Appreciate the assistance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jsframeworkdev (talk • contribs) 10:46, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@Jsframeworkdev: To request a move means to start a discussion saying you think the page should be moved. Anybody can start such a discussion. See Wikipedia:Requested moves#Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. When the current title was decided in a requested move discussion, it shouldn't be changed without a new discussion. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:53, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thank you. Talk:React (web framework)

A kitten for you!

Thank you for your post at Wikipedia:Help desk#Hi. You helped to make Cory very happy. I hope this kitten does the same for you. Cheers

MarnetteD|Talk 03:54, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 09:16, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

You are welcome PH. Fingers crossed for Cory's health. MarnetteD|Talk 20:24, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for helping me with the ref tag. You helped me when I was having trouble with the ref category last time. Thank you as always. SilverMatsu (talk) 10:56, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 11:02, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

List of chess grandmasters

Thanks for your excellent technical work on List of chess grandmasters. I couldn't figure out how to get both Notes and Obituaries in the compact toc in the correct order, but once I saw your solution it was a real Doh! moment. I couldn't let go of using seealso=yes|notesfirst=yes and that made the section order incorrect in the TOC. Using customN= for all of them rather than only for Revoked Titles and Obituaries should have been obvious, but it wasn't to me until you demonstrated it.

Putting the sorting buttons in a separate row is a very neat trick I had not seen before. Also the soft hyphens are a great refinement. I assume you must have a good tool to do that as it would be a lot of work to find and insert all those hyphenation points by hand.

Anyway, thanks for those and other improvements you've made. Quale (talk) 05:55, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

@Quale: Thanks. I did use some regex to help find long names. I guessed at valid hyphenation points and inserted them by hand. At Talk:List of chess grandmasters#Letter headings in the table you didn't want letter headings. I have since developed a method at User:PrimeHunter/sandbox10 to show the table correctly in section previews. I haven't used it anywhere yet. It would easily break if editors remove some of the code but the source could have warnings not to touch it. Are you interested? There is still no way to hide rows in sorting. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:23, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm very impressed that you put in the effort to add those hyphenation points, even with the help of regex.

We could try letter headings. I thought it was a great idea and new ability to edit by letter heading section would be very helpful, but it made some other things more difficult. We use {{table row counter}} to automatically keep the GMs count up to date in article lead, but most likely we could adjust the ignore parameter to account for extra rows. I'd have to see if it significantly complicated some Python code I use to manipulate the raw wikitext of the table. I don't use that much, but it's helpful when trying things like reordering columns or separating the Federations list column into Federation and Notes. That code is already a bit messy so I don't think accounting for letter headings would be difficult. (Most likely they would just be extra rows to pass through unchanged. My code really only wants to change the table data rows.) Another bummer with letter headings is that they don't interact all that well with table import tools such as Google Sheets IMPORTHTML since the letter heading rows are imported into the spreadsheet. This isn't tragic, but it makes some things harder to do. For example, with extraneous data you can't look at the number of rows and easily equate that to the number of GMs. Finally and most seriously, I rely on being able to use Pandas to import the table to check for new GMs and to do other maintenance. Extraneous rows can mess that up pretty badly, but the very cool column sort buttons you added also adds a row that needs to be accounted for and that only requires a single line of Python. So probably that is easily manageable as well. Now that I've written out my litany of worries, I think they aren't too serious. Quale (talk) 17:04, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

@Quale: I have only added 40 soft hyphens. It wasn't that much work. My method to preview a table section with the rendered table relies on extra code before and after each section heading. You can see it in the source of User:PrimeHunter/sandbox10. Maybe that complicates matters too much. It has never been tried as far as I know. I have also considered trying it at List of United States counties and county equivalents. Maybe that's a better place to start. Many users are probably only interested in one state. Dividing an alphabetical table by letter is more arbitrary. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:35, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Hmm, well maybe my admiration for your effort says more about my laziness rather than your hard work. I haven't tried viewing the page in different window sizes to see how table looks at various resolutions. I'm usually working on a 4K monitor which probably doesn't give me the same view as most visitors to the page. I thought including the letter divisions in the TOC was a very neat trick that might be of most help when using a mobile device, but the TOC doesn't seem to display at all when I use my phone. Maybe the TOC wouldn't actually help much on a small screen.

About dividing the table, I found it harder and slower to orient myself in the table when names were displayed in "First Last" format. Since I changed the names to display "Last, First", I've found it's usually quick and easy to figure out where I am in the list. The sort is much easier to see when the names show in naturally sorted order. It would be nice to be able to edit the list by first letter of last name, though. There have been some concerns over the size of the GMs list page even years ago and recently, but I find the size is actually more of an impediment when trying to edit the table than it is when simply displaying it. For example, when editing the Show preview button seems to take forever to render the table. It also can be hard to find the correct spot to make an edit even using Ctrl-F, so often I resort to copying the wikitext into an external editor and making the changes there. There are probably some Firefox or Chrome extensions that would make that more automatic. Quale (talk) 21:49, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

About Wikipedia section header sizes on mobile devices using website view

This may not be the right way for me to talk to you about this, but I couldn’t figure out another way.

You mentioned my discussion about section header font size, the only problems I have seen have been in the website views using Safari and the Brave browser. Mobile versions work fine.

Thank you for your consideration. BiliousBob (talk) 10:29, 17 February 2021 (UTC) BiliousBob (talk) 10:29, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the helpdesk help but I couldn't figure out how to do what you asked.

I couldn't figure out how to edit that page. Here is the point I want to make, and did make, perhaps in the wrong place, ie at the style manual talk page: "I think photos, videos, animations, drawings, paintings, or virtual reality or other images in 3D or 2D, that, like most maps, face due north and are labelled accordingly are best. This way, the orientation of things in the picture is made known to the reader.I think photos should by default face due north. Astronomy images, photos or whatever, likewise should come with indication of orientation, so right ascension and declination of a single point are not enough, there needs to be some indication of which way up the image is, which is best provided by indicating which way it is to the celestial north pole. This is especially urgent with images of galaxies and planets which are frequently upside down (not necessarily in Wikipedia) if I can say that (because of how telescopes work, I think). I think astromony images by default should have celestial north up." Arctic Gazelle (talk) 18:51, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

@Arctic Gazelle: You waited three days until the section had been archived at Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2021 February 14#Where should I suggest a change in the way all articles are written? If you cannot follow up within three days then you could have started a new section at Wikipedia:Help desk with a link to the old discussion. It's an absurd suggestion unless you limit which type of images it applies to. Should a photo of an elephant face north? Who the hell cares? And how do you draw an elephant facing North? Include a compass in the drawing, or a clock and shadow? If you made a more meaningful suggestion then Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Images could be a suitable place but I see you already posted in two other places, one before even asking and one merely nine minutes after. See WP:CROSS-POST: "Avoid starting the same discussion on multiple pages, which fragments discussion". It seems too late now to start a third discussion in a better place. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:51, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Isn't it obvious that I am a complete beginner at editing Wikipedia? I would appreciate it if you would refrain from using four letter words when you are expressing your frustration with me. Having said that, your point would seem to be valid. I didn't know about the rule, "Avoid starting the same discussion on multiple pages, which fragments discussion", though I suppose if I were smarter I would have figured it out. My bad. I have gotten used to Twitter norms, I guess. Since I haven't had any replies yet, how about I delete one or both of them? Arctic Gazelle (talk) 20:39, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

@Arctic Gazelle: There is a reply at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#A drawing, photograph, or video who's direction of view, e.g. due north is known is better in many cases. but you may not want to read it if you are sensitive. You are only notified of replies if the poster links your user page, e.g. with {{ping}} like me. Considering you are a beginner who may make errors, is it OK if I remove it at Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab) and move the other discussion to Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Images? PrimeHunter (talk) 20:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me about that reply, and thanks for the heads up about what a sensitive person might feel. Calling me a troll was out of order, but they only makes themself look bad. Apart from that they made some great points that I really hadn't thought of, so on balance I am grateful for the reply from that grumpy person. I also totally get that if they fear my idea could catch on, that could cause threats about my editing privileges. I can see that to them maybe I look like I am rocking the boat, innocently or not. Actually, it's encouraging. I could not figure out what to do with the edit conflict notice I got here so I did nothing. If I still have no replies to the other one, please feel free to move it to wherever you want or delete it. Arctic Gazelle (talk) 21:27, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Or even if it has has replies. Feel free to do what it takes to prevent a splitting of the discussion. Arctic Gazelle (talk) 21:41, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

@Arctic Gazelle: I have moved it and given it a shorter heading at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Images#Facing north should be preferred, and removed it from Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab). When you have already posted it as an actual suggestion with discussion, it's past the idea lab stage. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:49, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help. Much appreciated. Is the discussion all in one place now? Arctic Gazelle (talk) 23:32, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

@Arctic Gazelle: Yes (excluding this section which I don't count). PrimeHunter (talk) 23:35, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Two years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:13, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Insecure website

May you mind adding an SSL certificate on your website? It gives me a Not Secure warning when adding HTTPS. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LightningComplexFire (talk • contribs)

@LightningComplexFire: It's just a small non-commercial hobby site with only html. My webhost wants €50 annually for an SSL certificate. I don't want to pay that. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:43, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

PrimeHunter, ok 🔥LightningComplexFire🔥 14:42, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Let's Encrypt may be able to help. They supply free certificates which are usually easy to install on most platforms (though I've had problems using them with GoDaddy who make their proprietary alternative easier to use). Certes (talk) 11:59, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Revdel requested

Hi--do you mind revdeleting this as a copyvio? See this here. For "lala" in the URL, please substitute "lulu". Thanks! Dr Aaij (talk) 15:16, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

@Dr Aaij: Done. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:24, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much. Dr Aaij (talk) 23:02, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you, but there was more. Can you please revdelete up to my edit from 16:45, 16 March 2021‎? Thank you... Dr Aaij (talk) 21:51, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

@Dr Aaij: You removed one sentence in [3]. That doesn't require revdel for copyvio. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:04, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Hmm OK--thank you. Dr Aaij (talk) 01:25, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Dhadakebaaz

Hi PrimeHunter. Maybe you could help answer Talk:Dhadakebaaz#Why this article in in irrelevant category ? since I think the OP is indirectly referring to some changes you made to the article as part of some routine cleanup. You might also want to have a look at this since it basically reverts all of the improvements you made. This editor appealed for others to help clean up the article at the Teahouse; so, it seems quite odd for them to simply revert those that did as asked; I'll leave it up to you as to how hard you want to point that out. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:49, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

String quartet numbers

Hello. I see you've added {{String quartet numbers}} to several dabs. Although it's very unusual to have navboxes on dabs and MOS:DABIMG advises against them, I can see the point. I wonder whether it's worth a wider consultation as there are plenty of similar series: Piano Concerto No. 1, Symphony No. 1, etc. Unfortunately we don't have a list of such series (though the navboxes could form a useful category) but most series appear in my contributions here and earlier. Certes (talk) 11:56, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Template issue

There has been no response at Wikipedia talk:Redirect#Redirect hatnote issue. Could you take a look. I'm not sure if this can be fixed in the template or it is caused by something else. Thanks. MB 16:06, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

@MB: {{Redirect-multi}} uses Module:Redirect-multi. I don't know Lua. You could ask the creator of the module. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:29, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	Thank you very much for your help at the WP:HELPDESK the other day. I appreciate it. [4] –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:35, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 09:15, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Facepalm

Hi, Primehunter, I don't get how Fade went from "I am still not understand about you.Please do yourself once" at Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2021 March 10#How to edit category ? to "your instruction has been easy for understanding" at Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2021 March 14#How to edit category?. Thanks for handling his second post, which I didn’t notice at the time. I honestly almost lost my shi... composure the first time around! Pelagic ( messages ) – (16:12 Tue 06, AEDT) 05:12, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

@Pelagic: Yeah, I laughed at that. He actually got it before that.[5][6] Maybe he hadn't refreshed the category page or clicked "next page" to see the template. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:36, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Re: your edit at the Help desk...

This one...yeah I suspect they knew that as well, especially looking at their edit history. There's been some discussion about this very issue here. Someone suggested some of these meme'ing trolls' edits could be from an LTA, and at first I was like naaaahhh... but now I am thinking Yep, at least one LTA using proxies etc. Shearonink (talk) 15:31, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Wikimass here

Hey, that's public, can we discuss over the email? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidsmeltzer07 (talk • contribs) 23:37, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

@Davidsmeltzer07: You can use the "Email this user" link under "Tools" in the left pane of the desktop version of the site, but we nearly always discuss matters publicly at Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:14, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

You've got mail

Hello, PrimeHunter. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template. Davidsmeltzer07 (talk) 09:19, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

List of films with the most weekends at number one

Thanks for added the years to the new page, do you know if it is possible to bring it upto until the most recent weekend Fan Of Lion King 🦁 (talk) 10:50, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

@Fanoflionking: There are conflicting sources during COVID-19 shutdowns.[7] If we exclude weekends marked "COVID-19 Pandemic" at https://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/by-year/2020/ then I think it would be OK to just include these refs and manually count weekends per WP:CALC:

• https://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/by-year/2019/
• https://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/by-year/2020/
• https://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/by-year/2021/

PrimeHunter (talk) 11:25, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Could we use List of 2019 box office number-one films in the United States, List of 2020 box office number-one films in the United States and List of 2021 box office number-one films in the United States for films that arr effect by by the Pandemic? Fan Of Lion King 🦁 (talk) 11:41, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

@Fanoflionking: I think that would be questionable per WP:SYNTHESIS. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:47, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

How many entries should the list have Fan Of Lion King 🦁 (talk) 12:13, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

@Fanoflionking: I suggest either all films with 5 weekends or all with 4. I don't like cutting of the 4's based on unadjusted box office. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:28, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

I say four it is the same as a month btw has the link go down I seam not to be able to access it this afternoon Fan Of Lion King 🦁 (talk) 16:56, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

@Fanoflionking: It works for me, assuming you mean [8]. There are 77 with at least 4 weeks. 33 with 5 seems like a short stand-alone list. Many readers are probably mainly interested in big films from this century but there would only be Avatar and Black Panther. I'm leaning towards 4 unless the page gets other lists or is merged to somewhere. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:15, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Creed II is a 2018 American sports drama film

Creed II is a 2018 American sports drama film Directed by Sylvester Stallone Produced by Irwin Winkler Robert Chartoff Written by Sylvester Stallone Starring Sylvester Stallone Talia Shire Burt Young Carl Weathers Brigitte Nielsen Dolph Lundgren Music by Vince DiCola Cinematography Bill Butler Edited by Don Zimmerman John W. Wheeler Production companies United Artists Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Chartoff-Winkler Productions Distributed by MGM/UA Entertainment Company — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:5500:8D01:2828:6725:D945:9AF1 (talk) 16:35, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Is there a reason for your post? PrimeHunter (talk) 19:27, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

On home page: land in the Search box, automatically?

Thank you for your (incredibly fast and) helpful response. Harry 82.17.189.85 (talk) 10:41, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Largest cities templates

Template:Largest cities of Israel has been nominated for deletion. I noticed you are the only active user who participated in previous similar nomination. The current discussion is at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 06:44, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

What links here

I noticed a redlink in Colorado Springs, Colorado to Colorado Springs in popular culture, a redirect to Colorado Springs, Colorado, in popular culture, which was recently deleted. Before deleting the link (which comes from {{Main}}), I went to check if there were any more links ([9], [10]) and found none, not even the one I was expecting. That may explain why this link was not deleted when the article was deleted. Can you explain? Is this perhaps a bug with the hatnote template or am I missing something? Thanks. MB 05:10, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

@MB: Special:WhatLinksHere/Colorado Springs in popular culture currently shows Colorado Springs, Colorado for me. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:47, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I see it there now. I can't explain. Will delete it now, so above examples will be permanently invalid. MB 16:41, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Sunshine

		Sunshine!
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Happy first day of summer, PrimeHunter!! Interstellarity (talk) 20:09, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Template:User edits to Wikipedia

Thank you for reverting my edit to Template:User edits to Wikipedia. I had copied the information from another template, so I thought it was fine. Upon review of your revert, whatever template coding I had copied over, was backwards. The purpose of my edit was to provide a link to Template:User edits to Wikipedia/sandbox, which I had used to test edits that I proposed on its Talk page here. Due to my unfamiliarity with coding templates and the change in template function, I felt asking for approval would be prudent, but the changes that you reverted, I could perform without discussion.

I will try again. I am using the template in my own sandbox (currently hidden with Template:Userbox standing in) per proposed change, and so will check to make sure I haven't broken the template again. — CJDOS, Sheridan, OR (talk) 19:07, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

"163.com" listed at Redirects for discussion

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User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 17:05, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Help needed please regarding Draft:AGAM

Hello there, I got declined once for this new page. Referencing issues but I'm not sure what else can be done to make it more reliable, what to add or remove. Will be constantly editing this page further as the company grows. Created this page for official purposes. Will appreciate any help to change the published draft so that it can be resubmitted again and get approved. Thanks in advance.

Bad error message from Spamprotectionmatch?

Hi, in Special:Diff/1037745495 you said you tweaked MediaWiki:Spamprotectionmatch to display the offending URL. I'm not sure if this is related, but I recently tried to restore the 8 Oct 2020 version of Synergy Aircraft Synergy and got an error message starting with Your edit was not saved because it contains a new external link to a site registered on Wikipedia's blacklist or Wikimedia's global blacklist. In the body of the message it says "The following link has triggered a protection filter: {{{1}}}". That is, the triple brackets appear literally in the message. It seems like something was trying to display a template parameter but did so incorrectly. Apologies if this is unrelated to the change you made. CodeTalker (talk) 19:20, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

@CodeTalker: Thanks a lot for alerting me. I messed up and my test was invalid. It should work now. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:45, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

I tested it again and it does indeed work now. Thanks for the quick fix. CodeTalker (talk) 19:55, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

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Thanks!

Thanks for fixing the category problem for Category:American film directors of Persian descent. I appreciate it!--FeanorStar7 (talk) 09:03, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

SHCN page revert

I wrote about it here and was wondering about your opinion. Avengingbandit 23:51, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

I left another message on the same talk page. Avengingbandit 20:25, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Percent encoding problem

Thank you for your help; it's much appreciated. Somehow I found my way the other day from Percent-encoding through I think three other articles to find a long table of % codes, including the "%E2%80%93", but now I seem unable to retrace those steps. The table showed an image of the character - which in this case looked more to me like a truncated hyphen than a standard hyphen - but did not have a column with the character names: hyphen, en dash, etc. This would probably be a useful column to add to that table. Do you know the pagename I'm looking for? (Or maybe the table does have such a column, but my tunnel vision didn't notice it.)

Whether I can get to a wanted article or section within the article is not the issue; I need to have a workable URL that I can distribute to other people, regardless of how they individually access Wikipedia. I've sent out your suggested fix, and am waiting to hear back about whether it works for them. As I said, it's only in Wikipedia that this problem ever arises. Thanks again. Milkunderwood (talk) 05:30, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

If you mean that whether a link works for people or not depends on my software encoding more than their decoding, I'm using Microsoft Office Outlook 2013, on Windows 10. Milkunderwood (talk) 06:31, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

@Milkunderwood: I don't know which page you refer to. Unicode has around 144,000 characters so I guess it wasn't an exhaustive list. You can copy-paste a character or string to the "Characters" field at https://r12a.github.io/app-conversion/ and click "Convert" to get the percent-encoding. If the string already has percent encoded characters then it breaks because it will percent encode the percent signs. "View in UniView" shows character names. If you share a Wikipedia url then the result for others can depend both on your and their software. The safest method is if you can share a working link instead of a raw url. If you share via email then a link requires a html email and not a plain text mail. PrimeHunter (talk)

Yes, I email in HTML. The first report I've got back from changing the "#" to "%23", as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlem_Renaissance_theater_companies%23Lafayette_Players_(1916%E2%80%931932), for this person goes to neither the top of page Harlem Renaissance, nor to the Lafayette Players section, but instead to the listing of Lafayette Players in the article's table of contents. I'm not sure what to make of that - never seen it happen before - but I guess it's good enough. At least in this particular instance the wanted section is very near the top, and easily findable. Thanks again for your help. Milkunderwood (talk) 21:16, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks

A belated "thank you" for correctly identifying that I had inadvertently activated the "syntax highlighter" button on the wikitext toolbar, which clearly disagrees with my browser (Google Chrome). Your help is much appreciated. Doug butler (talk) 23:20, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Search box question

There are these three articles: Balloon (2017 film), Balloon (2018 film), and Balloon (2019 film). I started typing the name into the search box and after typing "Balloon (2", the matching article list updates to show the 2017 and the 2019 films first. However, the 2018 film is missing and does not appear until entering the complete title with end ending ")" in the search box. This doesn't seem right. Do you know why? Thanks. MB 15:02, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@MB: Balloon (2018 film) was created 8 hours ago. There can be a delay, maybe a day. The feature to detect an exact title match is different. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:16, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

OK, thanks. That makes sense, I did not realize one was recently created. MB 18:23, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Category / template interaction

I found that Sarwar Danish was in Category:Articles with invalid date parameter in template today. It was tagged with both {{BLP unsourced}} and {{Prod blp/dated}}. Both had different dates - the article was in Category:Unreferenced BLPs from September 2021 and Category:Unreferenced BLPs from October 2014. The list of categories in the article did not include "invalid date", but it you went to the category it was there (this persisted for hours, so didn't seem to be from some update lag). As an experiment, I re-ordered the tags in the article and then the article was no longer in "invalid date". This seems to be a very minor bug in something. Any thoughts? MB 21:11, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

@MB: {{BLP unsourced|date=October 2014}} produced the error category when Category:Unreferenced BLPs from October 2014 didn't exist. The category was created four hours ago. If an article changes categories without being edited then it's common that the category list on the article is updated long before the category page. This is deliberate for efficiency reasons in MediaWiki. A purge of the article will not update the category page but a null edit (or any edit like yours) will. So there is no bug but just a confusing feature. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:08, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Follow-up question. How did that category get created? Manually or automatically? I am asking because sometimes I will find an article tagged for some dated maintenance category that doesn't exist. I usually just change the date to the current month (considering it to be the date the tag was first applied). But other editors sometimes use the date field for the earliest time the condition existed (e.g. when the article was created). If that happens to be a redlink category for the particular month/year - will it get created automatically. I'm not aware of any bot that does this. MB 23:47, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

@MB: Category pages have page histories. They don't show pages being added and removed but they do show creation. Category:Unreferenced BLPs from October 2014 was created by AnomieBOT. User:AnomieBOT#Current includes "DatedCategoryCreator". PrimeHunter (talk) 01:03, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

OK, that led me to the documentation for the bot. It does create these automatically, So if I find an article in the invalid date category, I can just let the bot create the cat (if it is really a valid month/year that just doesn't exist - Most of the time it is something else like "Sep 2021" or "Sept 2021" instead of "September 2021"). Thanks for the help. MB 01:38, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Month links by quarter

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I had an odd thought about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Masters M85 triple jump world record progression

If I understand Trackinfo's big objection, the software has some capability limitations when ultra-large articles (like List of world records in masters athletics) are necessarily created and tended. I take as AGF there's an actual concern, but I haven't seen it play out like that editor reports they've witnessed. I was wondering: Is there some way that Template:Excerpt or Labeled section transclusion could help us build a smarter overall page? FTR, as I looked through this masters stuff, it seems almost all these articles need to be sub-categorized (by age group and discipline) from Category:Masters athletics world record progressions. I'm not a subject matter expert in any way but it seems to me that all masters wr progressions ARE wr progressions and as such should all be on one page, by discipline. By section transcluding a fully complete table, fully editable at the appropriate wr progressions page, we could make the ultra-large page merely a repository of the relevant excerpts. Ultra large page now quite compact. Best of all, only one page needs updating when the record is broken. Am I missing something obvious? BusterD (talk) 19:25, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

@BusterD: I think Trackinfo's objections are about convenience for editors (at least himself, I'm not sure others agree), concern that section links may break, and a belief that there is nothing problematic with a huge number of 1 kB articles. The proposed mergers by discipline would be around 10 kB, far below any software limitations. Nobody has suggested that all 400+ articles for disciplines and age classes should be merged to a single ultra-large article. At User talk:Trackinfo/Archive 3#Masters world record progressions I suggested to make separate mergers by discipline and by age class, using section transclusion in the latter so the progressions only have to be maintained in the former. The only large page is List of world records in masters athletics which doesn't have record progressions and is maintained separately. It currently has another format than the record progressions and could not be made by labeled section transclusion of the current record from the record progressions. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:58, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Are we discussing such merges somewhere? BusterD (talk) 16:17, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

@BusterD: There is no current discussion as far as I know. I'm busy this week and not starting it now. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:12, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Plenty on my plate myself, but it does seem like something to do in January with snow up to my hips... BusterD (talk) 20:51, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

How can I see only the latest year for each country in a spreadsheet?

I moved the question here:

• Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing#How can I see only the latest year for each country in a spreadsheet?

Feel free to answer there. --Timeshifter (talk) 21:39, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

importScript('User:PrimeHunter/Base title.js');

I just noticed your script but it doesn't works? Eurohunter (talk) 18:33, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

@Eurohunter: It works for me, e.g. on Example (musician). What is your browser and skin? I have Firefox and Vector. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:28, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Firefox + MonoBook. Eurohunter (talk) 20:44, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

@Eurohunter: Firefox + MonoBook also works for me (Windows 10). Can you try to log out and run importScript('User:PrimeHunter/Base title.js'); in your Web Console (Ctrl+Shift+K) on Example (musician)? PrimeHunter (talk) 20:54, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Is there a regular expression that will add link brackets to text in each cell in a column?

Hi. See:

• List of countries by intentional homicide rate#By country, region, or dependent territory

When I update the whole table the regions and subregions are no longer linked.

Others have shown me a couple ways (in Excel and LibreOffice Calc) to pull only the latest year for each country in the source spreadsheet.

But the table ends up without links. I use your method to add flags and links quickly to the first column:

• Help:Table#Adding flags and linking country names in country lists

But I need a quick method to add links to other columns. I will add the how-to info to Help:Table. --Timeshifter (talk) 21:43, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

@Timeshifter: Tables can use different syntax and regex is sensitive to details. The following is only lightly tested and assumes the syntax is a whole table row in one source line starting with a pipe and with double pipe between cells. Use preview and show changes before saving.

To wikilink the nth declared cell in each row:

Let m = n-1

Search for: ^(\|(.*?\|\|){m} *)(.*?)( *\|\|| *\n)

Replace with: $1[[$3]]$4

Enable "Treat search string as a regular expression"

Click "Replace all"

In your example, the row number is not declared as a cell in the source so the region is the 2nd declared cell and can be linked with m = 1. If a table uses rowspan or colspan then the nth declared cell in a row may not be displayed in the nth column of the table. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:12, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. It worked for me in the "Region" column, but not in the "Subregion" column. --Timeshifter (talk) 22:58, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

@Timeshifter: It works for me. What goes wrong? Did you remember to let m = 2 for that column and enable "Treat search string as a regular expression"? PrimeHunter (talk) 05:41, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

OK. I see the problem. See: User:Timeshifter/Sandbox159. It has the unlinked regions and subregions.

I had gotten the regions linked by substituting 1 for m, and 2 for n.

But it did not work for subregions when I substituted 2 for m, and 3 for n.

Now I see that I only have to substitute for m.

--Timeshifter (talk) 16:45, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

@Timeshifter: Sorry about that. \n means newline in regex (part of making it work if the last column should be linked). I didn't realize that n was a confusing variable name for the column number. It's a coincidence that n=2 worked. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:29, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Hey, it's all mostly Greek to me. :)

Thanks for your work!

I will put this in Help:Table.

--Timeshifter (talk) 10:12, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

I created a section in Help:Table currently titled: "Add link brackets to text in each cell in a column". --Timeshifter (talk) 20:15, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

How Can One Article Be Merged With Another?

I would like to suggest that the Gather 'Round page be merged with the Paul M. Lally page. Mr. Lally hosted the short lived Gather 'Round PBS series and also served as the series' narrator. Again, I suggest that these be merged together.

How can this be done? Who do I talk to? Thanks in advance for any answers. Frschoonover (talk) 19:44, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

@Frschoonover: See Wikipedia:Merging. Since you created Gather 'Round (TV series) and it hasn't changed much since, I would say it's OK for you to merge it into Paul M. Lally without a discussion. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:44, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

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Thanks! - Forbes Most Powerful People (Obama)

Hey thanks for the clarification, the only list I was able to find when looking was the top 20 list on the forbes website. Where did you get the entire list if you don't mind me asking? I'd be curious to see it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orthozilla (talk • contribs) 16:12, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

@Orthozilla: The 2016 source [11] says View the full list of The World's Most Powerful People. That links the current list so I used the Internet Archive at https://archive.org. Enter the url at "WaybackMachine" and choose a date at the wanted time, e.g. [12]. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:19, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:FULLPAGENAME decoded

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Thanks button

Can UserA thank UserB if UserA is blocked?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:34, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

@Bbb23: According to phab:T221371 and its patch, blocked users can only thank edits on pages they can edit. Sitewide blocked users cannot thank except for their own talk page if they can still edit it. Partially blocked users can thank except for pages they are blocked from. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:53, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Forgive me, but thanks! I think it would be good for this to be one of the bullet points at Help:Notifications/Thanks#Details and limitations.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:57, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

@Bbb23: I have added "Blocked users cannot thank except for edits to pages they can still edit".[13] PrimeHunter (talk) 01:12, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Excellent.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:49, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Holiday greetings (2021)

PrimeHunter,
I sincerely hope your holiday season goes well this year especially with what we went through last year. I'm optimistic that 2022 will be a better year for all of us: both in real life and on Wikipedia. Wishing you the best from, Interstellarity (talk) 18:54, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Merchandise giveaway nomination

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