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January 2019 at Women in Red
 January events:
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Happy New Year, Rosiestep!
Rosiestep,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 23:39, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.
- Thank you, SkyGazer 512, and Happy 2019 to you, too! --Rosiestep (talk) 00:41, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year!
Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year snowman}} to people's talk pages with a friendly message.
- Thank you, Walk Like an Egyptian, and Happy 2019 to you, too! --Rosiestep (talk) 00:41, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
2019
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Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:19, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Gerda Arendt, and Happy 2019 to you, too! --Rosiestep (talk) 21:27, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you! Please check out "Happy" once more, for a smile, and sharing (a Nobel Peace Prize), and resolutions. I wanted that for 1 January, but then wasn't sad about having our music pictured instead. Not too late for resolutions, New Year or not. DYK that he probably kept me on Wikipedia, back in 2012? By the line (which brought him to my attention, and earned the first precious in br'erly style) that I added to my editnotice, in fond memory? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:45, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Wow, Gerda Arendt, that is awesome and what an honor. I think any of us would be very happy with .002% of the Nobel Peace Prize; at least, I can say that's true for me. That you for sharing. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:29, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Well, he miscalculated the percentage, but that adds another human touch to a great soul. It was an honor to have known him, - I had no idea what he did besides Wikipedia until the shock of his death. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:45, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt, sorry I can't sort it out... What was his username? --Rosiestep (talk) 18:59, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Well, I thought I had that clear enough: click on Happy 2019, comes the DYK, then the 10 rules, with an attribution, and then a line with a username and a date, the line mentioned above, abbreviated. He also wrote the ultimate guide to arbitration, a must-read for every user in danger of having to deal with the arbitration committee, seriously ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:25, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt, now I see.
Thank you. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:30, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt, now I see.
- Well, I thought I had that clear enough: click on Happy 2019, comes the DYK, then the 10 rules, with an attribution, and then a line with a username and a date, the line mentioned above, abbreviated. He also wrote the ultimate guide to arbitration, a must-read for every user in danger of having to deal with the arbitration committee, seriously ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:25, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt, sorry I can't sort it out... What was his username? --Rosiestep (talk) 18:59, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Well, he miscalculated the percentage, but that adds another human touch to a great soul. It was an honor to have known him, - I had no idea what he did besides Wikipedia until the shock of his death. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:45, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Wow, Gerda Arendt, that is awesome and what an honor. I think any of us would be very happy with .002% of the Nobel Peace Prize; at least, I can say that's true for me. That you for sharing. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:29, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
Why Template:WIR-108 instead of Template:WIR-00-2019 like the other #1day1women templates? This will likely be very confusing... Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:40, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- Likewise for Template:WIR-107... Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:43, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Headbomb and thanks for the question. Thinking long-term, 10, 20 30 years from now, it makes sense for our event pages to follow a sequential numeric naming convention vs. variations of naming conventions. Event duration... a few days (e.g. #1 and #2), a month (most of our events), a multi-month campaign (#9), or even a year shouldn't determine it's naming. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:30, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
You are cordially invited to Stanford University to celebrate Wikipedia's birthday
- I am delighted to invite you to the 2019 Wikipedia Day party at Stanford, which will be held on Tuesday, January 15, 2019, at 5:00-8:30pm.
- There will be pizza, cake, and refreshments; both newcomers and experienced Wikimedians are welcome! We will have a beginner track with tutorials, and an advanced track with presentations, lightning talks, and tips and tricks. Admission is free, and you do NOT have to be a Stanford University student to attend.
See you soon! All the best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c)
Invitation to Organize Wiki Loves Love 2019
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Wiki Loves Love (WLL) is an International photography competition of Wikimedia Commons to subject love testimonials happening in the month of February 2019.
The primary goal of the competition is to document love testimonials through human cultural diversity such as monuments, ceremonies, snapshot of tender gesture, and miscellaneous objects used as symbol of love; to illustrate articles in the worldwide free encyclopedia Wikipedia, and other Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) projects. February is around the corner and Wiki Loves Love team invites you to organize and promote WLL19 in your country and join hands with us to celebrate love and document it on Wikimedia Commons. The theme of 2019 is Festivals, ceremonies and celebrations of love.
To organize Wiki Loves Love in your region, sign up at WLL Organizers page. You can also simply support and spread love by helping us translate the commons page in your local language which is open for translation.
The contest starts runs from 1-28 February 2019. Independent from if there is a local contest organised in your country, you can help by making the photo contest Wiki Loves Love more accessible and available to more people in the world by translating the upload wizard, templates and pages to your local language. See for an overview of templates/pages to be translated at our Translations page.
Imagine...The sum of all love!
--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:33, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Meetup/LA/American Woman 2018 listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Meetup/LA/American Woman 2018. Since you had some involvement with the Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Meetup/LA/American Woman 2018 redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:33, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
ORES predicted quality?
Hi, I notice you're marking article quality based on ORES prediction?
I went to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ORES but couldn't figure out how to do that.
Anyway, would it be possible for you to look at a few articles that I mostly wrote, and evaluate them with the help of ORES? I mean, I could do it myself, but I could be ... just a tad biased ... 
Thank you! --GRuban (talk) 20:43, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- Melissa Bachman - marked Start, but I hope it's at least C
- The Feminists - marked Start, but I suspect it might be merely Stub
- Lavastorm - not marked, but I think it would be Start
- Somerville Journal - not marked, Start or Stub
- Rebecca Moore (scientist) - not marked, hoping it's at least C
- Never Again pledge - Stub ... or more? It's short, but there isn't that much more to be said
- Kathleen Hogan - Start?
- Creation Evidence Museum - C?
- Robin Oliveira - Start?
- Greg Hrbek - Start?
Hi, GRuban, and thanks for stopping by. I'd be glad to assess them. BTW, for more on ORES, take a look at this discussion and upload the tool if you wish. I think it's awesome. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:52, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- Wow! I added the tool to my preferences, and it says several of them should be GAs! Hard to believe, honestly. --GRuban (talk) 20:59, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- GRuban Cool! I've assessed all of them on their talkpages. Several also needed some Wikidata TLC so I took care of that, too. In this regard, do you have this enabled: Preferences --> Gadgets --> "Show page description beneath the page title (not compatible with Page assessments gadget)"? If you do, it'll show you if the "Description" for the article is missing on the Wikidata item/page (e.g. so that you can pop over and add it). --Rosiestep (talk) 21:23, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you! Added that gadget too. What do you use to decide between labeling something ORES says should be GA as B or C? I mean, I know you can't mark it GA without a real review, and I initially thought they should mostly be Cs or even Start, as above, but now that visions of potential green plus signs are flashing in my eyes, if there are obvious things that make the difference for you, I'd like to know, and maybe try for a GA or two, starting by adding those things! --GRuban (talk) 21:33, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- GRuban Cool! I've assessed all of them on their talkpages. Several also needed some Wikidata TLC so I took care of that, too. In this regard, do you have this enabled: Preferences --> Gadgets --> "Show page description beneath the page title (not compatible with Page assessments gadget)"? If you do, it'll show you if the "Description" for the article is missing on the Wikidata item/page (e.g. so that you can pop over and add it). --Rosiestep (talk) 21:23, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- GRuban, IMO... The difference between B and GA is in small details, e.g. there are sufficient refs, imgs, the prose is well-written; the article just needs some amount of additional attention. A C-class article is a Start-class article which has been beefed up in quantity/quality of refs, prose, images, headers, ELs, and so on. Truth be told, I've created just shy of 5,000 new articles, so at this point, I can eye-ball the difference better than explain it. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:42, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
Help!
I am working on an article you will love, but I have a problem. Saint Nicholas Russian Orthodox Cathedral, New York is NOT the same church as St. Nicholas Antiochian Orthodox Cathedral, New York and the redirect page banner has me confused as to what I should do. The St. Nicholas Antiochian Cathedral was established in 1895, at a location on Washington Street in Lower Manhattan, then moved to Pacific Street in 1902. In 1920 the congregation relocated to a building which was formerly an Episcopal church at 355 State Street in Brooklyn.[1] Saint Nicholas Russian Orthodox Cathedral is the home of a congregation which was founded in the early 1890s on Second Avenue and in 1899 began a building fund with seed money from Czar Nicholas for a new Cathedral, which was designed by John Bergesen and completed its constructed in 1902 at 15 East 97th Street in Manhattan.[2],[3] How do we fix this? SusunW (talk) 22:56, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hi SusunW. Lovely problem for a Thursday afternoon. :) So I deleted the REDIRECT verbiage on the page page in question; and added 1 sentence, 1 image, and 7 categories. Hoping by adding the image and cats, it has bought you some time to expand the article with the content you've found, e.g. before the deletionists arrive. I've watchlisted it. ;) --Rosiestep (talk) 23:52, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. You know, Syrian, Russian, what's the difference? *sigh* For now I can do a stub and already put more info on the other one. SusunW (talk) 23:54, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
- Exactly! Ditto Serbian, Siberian. *sigh* *sigh* BTW, St. Nicholas is my family's patron saint. SusunW, I just linked the en-wp article to its itme on Wikidata and saw that there are 3 other language version articles about this building. The Russian language one is quite extensive. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:11, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- Well, I have enough there with the NYC landmark and head of the Russian Orthodox church in the US to confirm its notability. Hopefully someone will come along and expand the article. You can imagine my confusion, I spent like an hour trying to figure out what the heck was the problem. At any rate, I am not gonna finish Frothingham tonight. Gotta go feed the hubby. Wish I knew if she died in Guéthary, or some other place in France, but so far no clues as to where. SusunW (talk) 00:29, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- OMG, SusunW, did not know you were working on Frothingham. Very, very cool. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:32, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- I discovered her when working through a IWSA book listing conference delegates on the suffrage redlink page. Took me forever to piece together that she was the daughter of Sima Lozanić, but once I made that connection...the rest is history ;) SusunW (talk) 00:37, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- SusunW, It's interesting to me to see the Americanized spelling of Serbian (e.g. Helen Losanitch Frothingham) and Croatian surnames. In the early part of the 20th-c, Serbian and Croatian surnames ending in "ić" were Americanized as "itch". In mid-century, Americanized Serb names were changed from "ić" to "ich" (like my maiden name), while Croatian surnames kept the original ("ić") spelling. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:52, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- As close as I can tell, she Anglicized the spelling before she ever came to the U.S. Her dad was an ambassador in London and she was using Losanitch as early as 1913, but didn't come to the U.S. until 1915. I did wonder if she used Helène in France, but have no clue. SusunW (talk) 06:06, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- SusunW, Helen's article is wonderful! I found a lot of other images of her at newspapers.com. Ok if I upload them? Don't want to step on your toes if you've started that process.
- Helen's article has taken me down the Category:Recipients of the Order of St. Sava rabbit hole. Going through the sr-wiki category list in search of women recipients, so far, I've created articles on Draginja, Teodora, and Eva. But now it's Katherine who's got my attention. The translation of the very long article from the sr-wiki is slow-going, but good for my brain. The cool thing is that as she's Scottish, there are quite a few English language sources, too. The images in the Serbian article are real gems, but unfortunately, the uploader didn't provide a lot of metadata. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:51, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- I posted her so you could add whatever you like. One of the documents (in Serbian) also says her husband received numerous decorations from Serbia and then of course, there is that lovely lovely photo of her sister. I am hoping that if someone writes those articles, we might discover more about Helen. So odd how you get a clue in one place and it turns out the person was somewhere else entirely :) I had no idea when I started Helen that she would marry an American (before the Cable Act, so automatically becoming an American citizen) or live/die in France. :) SusunW (talk) 20:11, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- My life would've been sooooo much easier had I found the article in Serbian. Thanks for linking them. I did not know she received the Order of St. Sava too ... Mayhaps there is a source for it on the Serbian article? SusunW (talk) 20:38, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- SusunW, I will look for it. Right now, have created a Commons cat for her, and will upload images. Trying to find the best ones. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:43, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- My life would've been sooooo much easier had I found the article in Serbian. Thanks for linking them. I did not know she received the Order of St. Sava too ... Mayhaps there is a source for it on the Serbian article? SusunW (talk) 20:38, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- I posted her so you could add whatever you like. One of the documents (in Serbian) also says her husband received numerous decorations from Serbia and then of course, there is that lovely lovely photo of her sister. I am hoping that if someone writes those articles, we might discover more about Helen. So odd how you get a clue in one place and it turns out the person was somewhere else entirely :) I had no idea when I started Helen that she would marry an American (before the Cable Act, so automatically becoming an American citizen) or live/die in France. :) SusunW (talk) 20:11, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- As close as I can tell, she Anglicized the spelling before she ever came to the U.S. Her dad was an ambassador in London and she was using Losanitch as early as 1913, but didn't come to the U.S. until 1915. I did wonder if she used Helène in France, but have no clue. SusunW (talk) 06:06, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- SusunW, It's interesting to me to see the Americanized spelling of Serbian (e.g. Helen Losanitch Frothingham) and Croatian surnames. In the early part of the 20th-c, Serbian and Croatian surnames ending in "ić" were Americanized as "itch". In mid-century, Americanized Serb names were changed from "ić" to "ich" (like my maiden name), while Croatian surnames kept the original ("ić") spelling. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:52, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- I discovered her when working through a IWSA book listing conference delegates on the suffrage redlink page. Took me forever to piece together that she was the daughter of Sima Lozanić, but once I made that connection...the rest is history ;) SusunW (talk) 00:37, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- OMG, SusunW, did not know you were working on Frothingham. Very, very cool. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:32, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- Well, I have enough there with the NYC landmark and head of the Russian Orthodox church in the US to confirm its notability. Hopefully someone will come along and expand the article. You can imagine my confusion, I spent like an hour trying to figure out what the heck was the problem. At any rate, I am not gonna finish Frothingham tonight. Gotta go feed the hubby. Wish I knew if she died in Guéthary, or some other place in France, but so far no clues as to where. SusunW (talk) 00:29, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- Exactly! Ditto Serbian, Siberian. *sigh* *sigh* BTW, St. Nicholas is my family's patron saint. SusunW, I just linked the en-wp article to its itme on Wikidata and saw that there are 3 other language version articles about this building. The Russian language one is quite extensive. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:11, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. You know, Syrian, Russian, what's the difference? *sigh* For now I can do a stub and already put more info on the other one. SusunW (talk) 23:54, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
WaPo and WiR
- Happy 18th birthday, Wikipedia. Let’s celebrate the Internet’s good grown-up. mentions WiR in particular as well as the founders Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight and Roger Bamkin. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:07, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, WomenArtistUpdates! --Rosiestep (talk) 16:13, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
WiR DYK nomination help?
Hi! I have a Women in Red DYK nomination that's kind of wallowing and looking for a friend, and I wonder if you can help. Mary Jobe Akeley is super cool, and my initial DYK entry for her got approved right away, but then un-approved, edited, revised, and now I'm afraid no one will ever find it to re-approve it. Would you mind having a look and weighing in? Here's the link: Template_talk:Did_you_know/Approved#Mary_Jobe_Akeley. Thanks! -Kenirwin/(talk) 19:28, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Kenirwin and thanks for reaching out. I wasn't able to access the NYT article (I can only read 5 articles/month without paid access and I've already reached my max through Firefox, Chrome, and Safari) so I can't verify that the inline citation verifies the sentence used for the hook. That's likely the reason for the stall.
- Pagestalkers... can any of you help out with this? --Rosiestep (talk) 19:35, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
- I noticed this discussion by viewing what links here. The article sadly needs a whole new reviewer because the original one was banned indefinitely. SL93 (talk) 07:34, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
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--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:21, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Gerda Arendt. I remember how jazzed I was to get the first one, and every anniversary since then has been a lovely reminder. Seven years... wow! --Rosiestep (talk) 13:09, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
- And I remember that I picked the first well ;) - it had to be a woman! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:20, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
- I had forgotten that I was number one, Gerda Arendt, and that Dr. Blofeld was number two, but it was the same day, January 12, 2012. What an honor! And I am so glad to share the day with him. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:39, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
February 2019 at Women in Red
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 February events:
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Comments appreciated. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:46, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors!
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The 2018 Cure Award |
| In 2018 you were one of the top ~250 medical editors across any language of Wikipedia. Thank you from Wiki Project Med Foundation for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a user group whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs. |
Thanks again :-) -- Doc James along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 17:41, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, Doc James. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:04, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for assessing! Do you have any suggestions for improving? valereee (talk) 22:34, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- Valereee, thanks for stopping by. If more references or ELs are available, I'd add whatever is appropriate from them (but maybe there aren't additional ones?). I'd move the findagrave to Wikidata before someone else does. I'd also add her VIAF and LoC identifiers to Wikidata, and run her through mix'n'match which might bring up other identifiers. There are quite a few green links, and you might want to turn them blue. Where there are two inline references at the end of a sentence, you might want to put them in numerical order. Mostly, these are gnomish suggestions; no big ticket items stand out. The article is wonderful as is. If you would like any assistance with the Wikidata stuff, I'd be glad to help. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:56, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- lol since almost everything you just said is more or less a foreign language to me, any help you'd be willing to provide with wikidata would be gratefully accepted. I've honestly tried to figure it out multiple times and it terrifies me. I'm constantly breaking things around here; one of these days someone is going to suggest that if after ten years of editing I haven't achieved competence yet maybe I should just pack it in. :D I've seen people come through and put references in order -- I HATE when they aren't in order -- and suspect there's a bot for that, but I either haven't found it yet or found it but using it eluded me. valereee (talk) 23:20, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- No worries! I truly feel like I'm so far behind some people in what they know about Wikipedia vs. me. But I keep writing anyway, and figure if no one stops me, I'm doing something write, and they can fix whatever I might be doing wrong. Lol.
- I removed the findagrave as it's already on Wikidata (where it belongs.
- I reversed the order of two of the refs in the "Early life" section so that they are in numeric order when viewing the article (they are in alpha order if you're in edit mode). Check out the Edit History; hopefully that will make more sense.
- I went to viaf.org and put her name in the search box. After I click Search, I saw that a link did appear for her not everyone has a presence in VIAF and I clicked her link. She has three identifiers: her VIAF ID is 77992582; her ISNI (click the blue square logo) is 0000000032220754; her Library of Congress (click the American flag icon) is n93064222. So now I hop over to her Wikipedia article, click the Wikidata link in the left column, and scroll down the page till I get to the Identifiers section, where I click "add statement". I search/click VIAF and paste in the VIAF number, and save. Repeat for ISNI. Repeat for Library of Congress. Then refresh the Wikidata page before returning to the EN-WP page.
- Added occupation ↠ writer. Jane023 convinced me to do that for all women writers, e.g. in addition to the sub-occupation of journalist. Added country of citizenship ↠ United States of America.
- Then I went to mix'n'match, made sure I was logged in, then pasted her name into the search box, and clicked Search. The message: No matches found. Oh, well. Sometimes, you'll get a whole bunch of additional identifiers through mix'n'match.
- Hope this was helpful and not overwhelming. I learned almost all of this when I sat next to someone who showed me the ropes. Not so easy to learn it reading instructions on my talkpage. Mostly, don't worry about it if it's gobbly gook as in the grand scheme of things, all of this is unimportant compared to the actual article-writing which you're doing. Though, the edits I made did raise the ORES score from 3.82 to 3.83; whoopie! :) --Rosiestep (talk) 00:39, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you! I'm going to try to see if I can follow any of that! :D valereee (talk) 21:20, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Ok, I followed to viaf.org, and I searched on her, and I see that info, and I see in the wikidata listing on her page that you've entered it there. What does that do for us? I've read the introduction multiple times and I'm afraid I still don't understand. Somehow it helps reduce editing load? Sorry for being a pest. I'm totally willing to learn this stuff and include it in any articles I'm writing, I just am trying to figure out not only how to do it but also why so I'll know when I should do it. valereee (talk) 21:30, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Valereee, Wikidata is an open access, structured data, database. Adding authority control identifiers to a Wikidata item (e.g. a woman's biography) connects her Wikidata item with other international databases. Adding
{{authority control}}at the bottom of the Wikipedia article makes (some of) the identifiers (which have been uploaded the Wikidata item) become viewable in the Wikipedia article. While this doesn't exactly defend WP:Notability, it does prove the subject of the article is a known entity in international databases. More about it here: Template:Authority control. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:00, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Valereee, Wikidata is an open access, structured data, database. Adding authority control identifiers to a Wikidata item (e.g. a woman's biography) connects her Wikidata item with other international databases. Adding
- Ok, I followed to viaf.org, and I searched on her, and I see that info, and I see in the wikidata listing on her page that you've entered it there. What does that do for us? I've read the introduction multiple times and I'm afraid I still don't understand. Somehow it helps reduce editing load? Sorry for being a pest. I'm totally willing to learn this stuff and include it in any articles I'm writing, I just am trying to figure out not only how to do it but also why so I'll know when I should do it. valereee (talk) 21:30, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you! I'm going to try to see if I can follow any of that! :D valereee (talk) 21:20, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- No worries! I truly feel like I'm so far behind some people in what they know about Wikipedia vs. me. But I keep writing anyway, and figure if no one stops me, I'm doing something write, and they can fix whatever I might be doing wrong. Lol.
- lol since almost everything you just said is more or less a foreign language to me, any help you'd be willing to provide with wikidata would be gratefully accepted. I've honestly tried to figure it out multiple times and it terrifies me. I'm constantly breaking things around here; one of these days someone is going to suggest that if after ten years of editing I haven't achieved competence yet maybe I should just pack it in. :D I've seen people come through and put references in order -- I HATE when they aren't in order -- and suspect there's a bot for that, but I either haven't found it yet or found it but using it eluded me. valereee (talk) 23:20, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- Valereee: Thanks for developing this article so well. I see that there are a few more details, including a couple of interesting quotations, in Women Politicking Politely: Advancing Feminism in the 1960s and 1970s which you might like to take into account. As for Wikidata, I must say the interface has recently somewhat improved but editing is still not straightforward and opinions very on the application's usefulness. From the difficulties you express, I think your time would be better spent on Wikipedia itself. Your recent articles show how useful your are becoming as a contributor. May I suggest you also consider adding your biographies to pertinent lists: I've added this one to List of women writers and List of American print journalists. (I also added Zeola Hershey Misener to the List of suffragists and suffragettes.) You are doing a great job. Keep up the good work!--Ipigott (talk) 10:58, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks Ipigott! I think you're right that I'm better off spending my time creating content rather than trying to figure out gnomish things. I always feel a little guilty if I haven't at least tried to get those details done, like I'm leaving a job half-finished, but maybe I shouldn't; WP is collaboration and there are people who enjoy and are good at that. Thanks for the source -- I hadn't even looked at that book because it's by the same author as one of the major sources I'd already used so I figured it probably didn't have any additional details, but I see that it does! valereee (talk) 11:55, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
Chyron
- Rosie you rock! I am about to waltz back over one of my edits because I just found out how to spell Chyron, yay! We need to link this to byline now for journalists, and ask for a property on Wikidata for this so we can show the gap between women and men journalists with chyrons on CNN for example. It annoys me no end that men always get a chyron and women are lucky if their name is mentioned in passing :( Jane (talk) 08:33, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Jane023, you rock! I get what a chyron is, but how would we use this to show the gap, which, of course, is noticeable? --Rosiestep (talk) 17:31, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks! First of all this word itself is problematic. I suppose "xerox copy" started the same way. Basically, the chyron is a technical term and refers to the whole part of the screen including those running titles. Then there is (or not) a line somewhere with the name of the person talking. That in itself, is not the chyron journalists talk about. They mean the name+position in the sense of "First Lastname, CNN correspondent". We want to have a Wikidata property for this so that we can list the chyrons per person with dates. I guess it's not an occupation but an appointment. Getting a chyron is a big deal. Jane (talk) 19:06, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- BTW, and you may have thought about this already, though it's not called a chyron (which is a TV news term), name+position is also added in a lower third-like way in documentaries (I'm watching one now). Don't know what the term is when used in documentaries. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:49, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks! First of all this word itself is problematic. I suppose "xerox copy" started the same way. Basically, the chyron is a technical term and refers to the whole part of the screen including those running titles. Then there is (or not) a line somewhere with the name of the person talking. That in itself, is not the chyron journalists talk about. They mean the name+position in the sense of "First Lastname, CNN correspondent". We want to have a Wikidata property for this so that we can list the chyrons per person with dates. I guess it's not an occupation but an appointment. Getting a chyron is a big deal. Jane (talk) 19:06, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Jane023, you rock! I get what a chyron is, but how would we use this to show the gap, which, of course, is noticeable? --Rosiestep (talk) 17:31, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Rosie you rock! I am about to waltz back over one of my edits because I just found out how to spell Chyron, yay! We need to link this to byline now for journalists, and ask for a property on Wikidata for this so we can show the gap between women and men journalists with chyrons on CNN for example. It annoys me no end that men always get a chyron and women are lucky if their name is mentioned in passing :( Jane (talk) 08:33, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Inter-Allied Women's Conference
On 10 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Inter-Allied Women's Conference, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Inter-Allied Women's Conference, which opened in Paris 100 years ago today, marked the first time women were granted formal participation in an international treaty negotiation (conference organizer Marguerite de Witt-Schlumberger pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Inter-Allied Women's Conference. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Inter-Allied Women's Conference), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Invitation to attend a Southern California Regional mini Unconference
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WikiProject classification rating scripts
Hi Rosie, I just wanted to thank you for recommending those two scripts to me, especially Rater. I can't tell you how much time Rater has already me saved me in adding WikiProject ratings to articles. But actually, it has saved even more time in correcting classifications. And it even adds banners when needed. It takes care of the importance parameter too. It's awesome. But I do see what you meant about not always agreeing with the classification and that goes for both scripts. montanabw said to remember it's just a tool. So I'm using it, but being judicious regarding its recommendations. After all, it has recommended FA-class for one of my articles which hasn't even made it to GA-class yet...lol... anyway. I have also found the list of scripts and added other useful scripts to my script file. So, very helpful indeed. Thanks a bunch! dawnleelynn(talk) 20:10, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- You're welcome, dawnleelynn. Glad I could be helpful. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:18, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- I tried to bring attention to the unreasonably high GA and FA ratings on ORES to those responsible but there was absolutely no reaction. As more and more of us are using the tool, perhaps through your high-level contacts you could try to do something about it. A simple solution for the EN wiki would be to set the scores which lead to these ratings a bit higher.--Ipigott (talk) 10:42, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
- Ipigott, ok, will do. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:02, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
- I tried to bring attention to the unreasonably high GA and FA ratings on ORES to those responsible but there was absolutely no reaction. As more and more of us are using the tool, perhaps through your high-level contacts you could try to do something about it. A simple solution for the EN wiki would be to set the scores which lead to these ratings a bit higher.--Ipigott (talk) 10:42, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
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Luke Perry
Hello, my friend! Long time no hear! I have recently been involved in edits to the Luke Perry page, an American TV and film actor who recently suffered a major stroke. I corrected some problems on both his main article, and talk page. Anyway, I just wanted to check in and see how things are with you. All is well, I hope!Juneau Mike (talk) 04:27, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- Hi @Juneau Mike; how are you, my friend? Back in the day I was a faithful watcher of 90210 so it saddened me when I rad about Luke Perry's stroke a few days ago. Thank you for improving his article. You know me... I generally stay clear of BLPs, but glad that you are updating it. All is well in my life. I was in LA over the weekend for Wikipedia Day and to visit with family. I have a lot of travel ahead of me between now and Memorial Day... tired just thinking about it. ;) Glad to hear all is well with you. If there are any cool happenings in you neck of the woods, would love to hear about them. What happened to the artwork by the ocean (we worked on an article about it, if I recall)? Has it withstood the elements? --Rosiestep (talk) 17:43, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- Luke Perry died today. His death is a great loss. :( Juneau Mike (talk) 20:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
- You are so right, @Mike; 52... too too soon. :( I've been playing REM's "Losing my religion" in the background. Seems fitting... unless someone isn't a 90210 aficionado. #LukePerryrip --Rosiestep (talk) 21:40, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
- Luke Perry died today. His death is a great loss. :( Juneau Mike (talk) 20:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Help with a move please
Rosie, would you be kind enough to help me out by moving Draft:Alison Phillips into article space. My attempt was refused as there is already a redirect on Alison Phillips (which should probably be deleted or given another title). The article was refused on the grounds that Phillips was not notable. I cannot think of any post that is less notable in journalism than being editor of a large circulation daily newspaper. Please ping me when you have moved it so that I can carry out a few additional edits. Thanks in advance.--Ipigott (talk) 12:30, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, Ipigott. Done, including the hatnote issue. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:18, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
Please participate to the talk pages consultation - link update
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Non-existent categories
Before adding a category to an article, as you did to Victoria Clay Haley, please make sure that the category page actually exists. In some cases, it may be appropriate to create a new category in accordance with Wikipedia's categorization guidelines, but it is usually better to use the most specific available existing category. It is never appropriate to leave a page categorised in a non-existent category, i.e. one whose link displays in red. You may find it helpful to use the gadget HotCat, which tests whether a category exists before saving a change. Thank you. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:52, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
- Hey, thanks for stopping by, BrownHairedGirl. That was a blooper on my part. I had been adding the category Category:Clubwomen to a series of articles, and in this case, instead of adding the intended cat, I added her name. Thanks for catching my error, and sorry for any inconvenience. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:58, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
- No prob, Rosiestep.
- Cleaning up Special:WantedCategories is one of the routine maintenance tasks I do, and I have recently taken to issuing wee notes in some cases to explain the issues a bit in case people don't spot why there is an issue. In your case I see it was just a typo (or, since it was a copy-paste thing, maybe a pasto?) of the sort we all make, so I needn't have bothered.
- Hope the tone of the templated note works ok; it's hard to judge how to pitch these things, but thanks for being so nice about it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:05, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
- BrownHairedGirl, I think the template is well written, plus sounds nice and is educational. Plus, glad we had a chance to exchange a few words. :) --Rosiestep (talk) 02:09, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
I had planned on doing her this month after I learned of her when I did Helen. Someone else started a draft, but never submitted it or moved it to mainspace. I thought you might enjoy the article. My first contribution of the month. Slowly but surely making my way back. SusunW (talk) 00:11, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
- SusunW, I really really enjoyed it. But mostly glad just to see you making your way back. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:15, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
Mary Gray Peck
Nice article on Mary Gray Peck. This is one reason why I love this site - I get to learn so many new things whenever I sign on. Capt. Milokan (talk) 21:28, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
- Glad you liked it, Capt. Milokan. I feel the same ... always learning something around here. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:19, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
The article Daniela Aleuy has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.
If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp/dated}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. CoolSkittle (talk) 20:15, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- Hey CoolSkittle - thanks for the notification. Done! --Rosiestep (talk) 02:44, 22 March 2019 (UTC)