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Best of luck, Daniel Bush, and most importantly, have fun! Ombudsman 23:36, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Congrats
editLet me welcome you as well. You have been doing some good edits I see. Your Tennessee Commissioner of Financial Institutions article has been mentioned in the press release for almost being the 1,000,000th article on Wikipedia. Congrats. NoSeptember talk 00:20, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank you. I had been preparing eight articles to create for 1,000,000th since last week, six being Tennessee-related, and the other two being related to chemistry and the U.S. Treasury Department. 1,000,001st article is more than enough for that. I aim on being here primarily to work on articles on every state department, state cabinet member, and crater and mountain on Mars. Daniel Bush 00:36, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
- Work on state government articles is a great area to fill in here. I've done a little with state supreme courts, so our interests are somewhat similar. NoSeptember talk 00:45, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Good Lord, how is this article to be maintained? We're not an almanac. I hope it wasn't as much work as it looks... the article can't stay, I don't think. It could be "frozen" as (say) "List of ambassadors to the United Nations as of 2006", but I don't see that flying either... I mean, man, this is great collection of data, but... damn. Herostratus 08:28, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
If I had the resources, I could redirect Sixtieth session of the United Nations General Assembly, the current session, to the list, archive it when the 60th session is over, and denote changes in ambassadors during that session if possible. We have articles on the membership of the U.S. House of Representatives with 435 members and manage to keep articles on every member, as well as an accurate list of every member, so I do not see how keeping track of an international body of less than 200 people should be more difficult. I came to Wikipedia looking for this list, and it wasn't there, so several months later I decided to spend a few hours tonight coding it myself. Daniel Bush 08:37, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
- Right. I hope you're not offended by my AfD on the article, I genuinely am looking for community input on the best way to handle a list like this... Again let me say it's a good article and I appreciate your time and effort in making it... How about this: On the AfD page, I threw out the idea of renaming it to "List of ambassadors to the United Nations (sixtieth session)", that way it doesn't have to be maintained, it could later be copied to "List of ambassadors to the United Nations (sixty-first session)" and such changes as necessary made to that. I can see plusses and minuses to that... Herostratus 16:24, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm thinking now it sould be kept at its current location. The situation is very similar to List of Canadian senators. There are no elections, so there cannot be multiple lists of "sessions." Instead, new senators are appointed by the Prime Minister whenever old ones die or retire. The only difference is that the United Nations is composed of approximately 192 members rather than 100, and each member is appointed by a different country. I'm going to link to the article from major U.N. pages where appropriate, too. Daniel Bush 17:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi Daniel. As you created the List of ambassadors to the United Nations article, I thought you may be interested to know that, armed with the above new catagory, I am going to try and stub each and every one of these fellows. Feel free to lend a hand! :) Proto||type 13:36, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
I'll get right on it after I finish writing articles on all current Members of the European Parliament. I have about three left. Daniel Bush 17:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
- Spotted a few you've made - good work! Proto||type 13:58, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
This article borrows heavily from the website of the U.S. Fleet Forces Command.
Can you confirm that the content there is licensed to permit its use on Wikipedia? I can't find a policy on the site. You can't just justify it by attribution. BigBlueFish 22:44, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
All information produced by the United States government falls into the public domain unless stated otherwise, in which case they are using information supplied by contractors that may have a copyright. There is no such notice in this case. Daniel Bush 22:48, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
- The information is produced by the United States military, not the government. Does the same apply to them? Such a notice should at any rate be placed on the talk page; it's not really relevant on the main article. BigBlueFish 14:33, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
- http://www.cffc.navy.mil/privacy.htm states, "The purpose is to provide information about the Commander, U.S. Fleet Forces Command to the general public. All information on this site is public domain and may distributed or copied unless otherwise specified. Use of appropriate byline/photo/image credits is requested." I put the notice at the bottom solely to warn the reader that this article, being produced by the military, may be POV for now, as is done with articles with content from the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica and other articles on Admirals and Generals in which the writer hadn't gone to any other sources. Daniel Bush 21:00, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
- Ah, that makes it clear now, thanks! Seems appropriate now. Sorry for the late reply ;) BigBlueFish 15:18, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Nashville flag
editPlease see my response on Talk:Flag of Nashville, Tennessee. Kaldari 02:26, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Tennessee Senate articles
editNice work on all the Tennessee Senate articles. I only have one suggestion for them: the preferred term is generally "Tennessee politician" rather than "Tennessean politician". For example, Category:Tennessee politician stubs. Other than that, they are great! Kaldari 23:15, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Alright, then, I'll use that term from now on. I hope to get all Tennessee state legislator articles done by the November elections, as well as all current U.N. ambassadors one day from the list article I created. With entirely blue links for incumbents in those areas, I'm sure it will be less daunting for Wikipedians to maintain those categories so that blue links do not show up entirely.
The Tennessee General Assembly doesn't archive their state senator profiles like they do with their state representative profiles, unfortunately, and their website doesn't allow webcrawlers such as Internet Archive. After the November elections, then, state senators that didn't keep their seats will lose their profiles as well. Sourcing the General Assembly website is only temporary. I think maybe when I finish creating articles on all the state senators, I'll start looking for more sources, including some that mirror the website. Daniel Bush 00:47, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Image:Mae Beavers.jpg listed for deletion
editGovernment-related articles
editAfter looking over your work on Diane Black, I went over some of your other contributions and am impressed by the amount of work you've put into creating and updating articles related to figures in government. In my book, you deserve a Tireless Contributor Barnstar. Thanks! Tijuana Brass¡Épa!-E@ 09:10, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
DYK
editWikimania talk related to Congressional edits
editHi Daniel--I'd love to ask you some questions about the Wikinews response to Congressional edits, where you played a leading role. What was the event that brought it to your attention? Did you enlist collaborators, and if so, how? Did you come to any general conclusions about protecting Wikipedia from anonymous POV-pushers in the future? I'm giving a short talk at Wikimania about the Congressional edits, the "Swiftboating" edit war, and similar mass-arrivals of new edits. User Talk:Betsythedevine betsythedevine 18:39, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
I first came across the Congressional edits in a Lowell Sun article on those done by Marty Meehan. Wikipedia had a list of edits by computers in the U.S. Senate, where I looked through all the contributions. I enlisted the help of Wayne Saewyc, whose Wikinews username is Amgine, through the #wikinews IRC channel. He found the edits from the office of Senator Feinstein and also called Senate offices before the Wikinews article was published.
I think most people with IP addresses that can be traced to a specific location are more cautious about editing articles relating to themselves, especially about removing valid content, because of the negative publicity that could occur. For political articles, I think it might be a good idea to sift through contributions from political IP addresses in October. The best thing to do, though, is for Wikipedians to simply add those articles to their watch lists. Daniel Bush 21:28, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks so much, Daniel, for your quick and informative reply. I hope it's ok with you if I copy your response onto my own talk page, where I'm hoping to collect more people's feedback. All best, Betsy betsythedevine 02:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Adminship
editCongratulations, and good luck. Deleterious 04:39, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- As I've made my concerns known on your nominator's talk page, I'll repeat them here. Right now the noms give an impression of bad-faith (due to the lack of nomination text, as well as the repeated additions to the RFA page despite proper procedures being very clear). If you intend to accept, I urge you to turn it into a self-nomination by describing yourself. NSLE (T+C) at 04:46 UTC (2006-06-05)
Say my name!
editHey Daniel, you should probably know that my name has nothing to do with the Harry Potter series of books. I created that name long before Rowling put pen to paper on her first manuscript. Not everybody with their usernames containing "Phoenix" did so because of Harry Potter. --Deathphoenix ʕ 21:32, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
List
editList of pages I've created (unwikified):
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Thanks
editHi Daniel. Thanks for undoing the vandalism to the Bernard Haisch article. I have been travelling and just noticed this. There are, alas, some bona fide idiots in the world. Regards Haisch 00:30, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
You're welcome. I reverted it as soon as I saw it. I'm now watching the article for any future cases of obvious vandalism. Daniel Bush 00:42, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Elephant crowding
editI was about one second away from reverting that in Elephant - looked like a Steven Colbert prank that MSNBC got taken by, till I saw the date on the citation. --Brat32 07:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Gil Gutknecht
editMy problem main with the article is that both the issue from earlier this year and this current issue are mixed together, and was hard for me to seperate even knowing about both events. I am not sure what this is referring to either: "...who says he acted out of no malice for Gutknecht...". Malice in doing what? The blocker was Kungfu adam, and the reverters were others. -Ravedave 20:51, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
The article referred to me contacting the Star Tribune about edits coming from Gutknecht's office. Daniel Bush 20:53, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Ah ok so there was no malice in contacting the paper. Ok. Thanks for clearing that up, thanks for keeping the media informed. Hopefully this will help keep the politician articles NPOv. -Ravedave 21:18, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Conflicts of interest
editPlease check out Wikipedia:Conflicts of interest and make any comments you feel are useful. WAS 4.250 07:21, 22 August 2006 (UTC) Wikipedia:Conflicts of interest I don't get it. The first shows up red and the second blue.
It's a good proposal, but for the corporations that I've noticed editing Wikipedia, such as Zango, in which it appeared the founder had edited, it would seem that this would be little motive to continue subverting Wikipedia for marketing practices. There needs to be mention in this policy of the punishment that may result in its violation in the most extreme cases.
If edits from Zango continue to be for nothing but the purpose of promoting its adware, and alleged spyware, through editing Wikipedia articles on itself, and linkspamming in unrelated articles? They have been blocked temporarily, but this has not worked, so should it be blocked permanently? It seems that the founder of Zango may have even edited Wikipedia under the username Dtodd.
Zango has been warned several times under various IP addresses not to promote itself on Wikipedia, but because administrators don't see each others' warnings, they often just place another warning sticker on the user message page. Sometimes warnings of the highest degree, saying you will be blocked if you repeat your actions again, only result in yet another warning, because the administrator supposes it has been a couple of months since the last action, when this is not true. I think this is unfortunate leniency on Wikipedia's part.
Additionally, should organizations like Zango that have their IP address blocks have their IP addresses blocked individually, or blocked as a single entity? The answer to this question could be applied to other things, like the offices of members of the U.S. Senate, in the extremely unlikely event such an "edit war" would arise. Aside from that, I have no suggestions. Daniel Bush 08:16, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Other agencies sending representatives to Wikipedia
editThe "fiddling"? (I'm not sure what to call it) by Congressional staffers and campaign staffers with candidate bios on Wikipedia is well known, as is now the recent case of Gregory Kohs offering to be a Wikipedia "editor for hire" - but what is to be done with not-for-profit agencies making edits to the pages about their agencies with inside information that only THEY, internally, can verify, if they haven't been bothered to update their own website? If this is something you can take up, let me know, or if you know which (if any) admin I should take it to, let me know, and I'll provide the specifics. Thanks! --JohnDBuell 23:16, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Information that can only be verified with inside information should probably be removed under the "original research" rule, I think, unless it is made available publicly in writing. Daniel Bush 23:20, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- So any information added by User:Joanne H., who identifies herself on her user page as "Operations Manager YFU International Educational Services" to the Youth For Understanding page, with summaries in the edit history that her information is NOT yet available on the yfu.org website can be reverted under WP:V or WP:OR? --JohnDBuell 01:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- You not only may but should delete on sight any addition that the contributor themselves admits can not be verified and that you yourself do not know to be true (Don't knowingly delete true information). WAS 4.250 02:19, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- I built the article up based in part on yfu-usa.org, yfu.org (which she claims is out of date, but how is anyone OUTSIDE the organization supposed to know that?), PDF files downloadable from yfu-usa.org, and some information gleaned from their mailing lists (which I receive, being an alumnus of one of their programs). I'll see what I can do about finding duplicate information online for the stuff that came from mailing lists, but if their sites are primary sources and not updated, then that's all the article can reflect, right? --JohnDBuell 02:36, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
When a user makes an edit that changes information in a way that contradicts sources cited in an article, saying that the information is incorrect based on inside information, then the best actions available might be to revert the changes, citing those policies, especially if official website information contradicts the changes. Another option is for the information could simply be removed altogether, and the article could be composed of information solely from third-party sources.
The first option would prevent those with self-interest from trying to manipulate information they dislike being available to the public, but it may also be at the expense of accuracy. The impression I have is that Wikipedia information is based on verifiability by credible, third-party sources, rather than the ultimate truth. The second option would shorten the article while increasing accuracy, which might be best if the source is suspect. Which option is the best to go with might be an issue for a reform of Wikipedia:Verifiability.
If JoanneH is removing things because they are outdated, why not just label the entire section "as of this date, these were the conditions," unless the information has been inaccurate from the beginning? Has it?
Sorry, I've been in the middle of researching information for the articles on Court of Appeals judge Eric Clay and state senator Jerry W. Cooper, so my replies might be later than expected. I have little interest in being involved in the formulation of Wikipedia policy, and I'm being distracted by about five other tasks right now, so how long do I have to make a reply? Daniel Bush 02:50, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- No this has all been very good and constructive. And I'm just an editor with no connections to anybody who shapes policy. I was just seeking other opinions, on a specific instance. Thanks to you both! --JohnDBuell 02:53, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Great job with Cooper!
editThat's just about what I wanted to do with Cooper. Well-referenced and hence likely to be factual; about as good as we are going to get based on public information. Time well spent IMO. Rlquall 19:59, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you. I tried to update it with more information about his past votes, bills, and political views, but as far as I've searched, there's more information available on the circumstances of his indictment than his actual career. Daniel Bush 20:08, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
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editI am Daniel_Bush on freenode and I would like the cloak wikipedia/Daniel Bush. Thanks. 22:57, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
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Laundry
editWäsche is the word you were looking for. pschemp | talk 03:30, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
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