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Tech News: 2016-19

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Wikiversities now have better access to Wikidata. They can use data from any page on Wikidata on any page on Wikiversity. This happened on May 3. [1]
  • You can use Wikipedia GapFinder to find missing articles between languages. [2]
  • Users are invited to try Cross-wiki Notifications on all wikis. This is the last test session before the release by default, scheduled for May 12th at 23:00 UTC. [3][4]
  • You can use keyboard shortcuts to open the visual editor (meta+V) or the wikitext editor (meta+E) (on certain wikis, even if you have chosen a favorite editor). [5]
  • Uploading files bigger than 100 megabytes on Wikimedia Commons required to opt-in in your preferences. This is not necessary anymore. [6]
  • The UploadsLink extension is now available on Wikimedia Commons. [7]
  • Deleting a translation unit page didn't remove the corresponding content from the translation page. This is now solved. [8]
  • Translation suggestions based on Apertium are now available on Mediawiki.org. [9]

Problems

  • MediaWiki 1.27.0-wmf.23 has been rolled back from Wikimedia wikis, due to a performance issue. [10]

Changes this week

  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from May 10. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from May 11. It will be on all wikis from May 12 (calendar).

Meetings

Future changes

  • Today, in categories, a page titled "11" comes before "2". We plan to reorder that: "2" will come before "11". Please tell the developers if the change will cause problems. [11]

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23:22, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Quick, eat it before it passes into my timecone:

 

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Tech News: 2016-20

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Some image thumbnails now load faster on mobile. They also take up less bandwidth. [12]

Problems

  • Last week's MediaWiki version was late on some wikis. [13]

Changes this week

  • Special:Notifications will have "mark as read" buttons for each day. The non-JavaScript version will get it this week. A JavaScript version will come later. [14]
  • Wikis can now locally decide what wikitext they want the signature button to produce. [15]
  • A one-time welcome message for users will now be shown in the wikitext editor. This will include existing users. [16]
  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from May 17. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from May 18. It will be on all wikis from May 19 (calendar).

Meetings

Future changes

  • Using self-closing tags like <div/> and <span/> to mean <div></div> and <span></span> will not work in the future. Templates and pages that use these tags should be fixed. When Phabricator ticket T134423 is fixed these tags will parse as <div> and <span> instead. This is normal in HTML5. [17]

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16:01, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Finigrimm

Latest comment: 8 years ago6 comments3 people in discussion

I can give you a lot of circumstantial evidence that Finigrimm is dead. Notice how many of the details in the obituary line up with information listed in their userbox (e.g. "This user wears glasses"; in the obituary photo, they're wearing glasses. "This user supports the fight against mental illness"; NAMI.org is listed in the obituary as a cause they cared about. "This user is an adoptee"; the obituary says the user was "adopted in New Jersey".) Also, notice this same person wrote CS Queer Collective articles "Why Queer?" (4/14/15), "Solidarity" (4/19/15), and "Staying Woke" (5/31/15). CSQueerCollective.org is listed in the obituary among causes this user cared about.

Some of the questions people often feel tempted to ask after a suicide are, "Where did this happen?? What was the suicide method??" But I'll omit that information and just put a boilerplate notice. Mrs. Olson from the Folgers commercials (talk) 10:35, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. If that's Finigrimm, this is all desperately sad. But I'm afraid that the conclusions you are drawing are original research, and until we have something definitive, we should leave their page be. -- The Anome (talk) 13:11, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
@Mrs. Olson from the Folgers commercials: Ah. I've just noticed your most recent edit -- yes, that's much more respectful, and I think we can leave it at that. I think the thing which bothered me was the inclusion of time and presumed means of death, which I felt were a step too far, even if we had proof of their death. Although I can see the logic behind your edit, I still very much hope you are mistaken; if Finigrimm is alive, then I hope they will return to remove the notice. -- The Anome (talk) 13:13, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
If true, this is sad. However, as Finigrimm never edited anything here other then their user page, it's best deleted, either way. Please note also the process at WP:RIP. . Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:30, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: can I then leave this with you, please, Andy, as I've never been involved with this process before? -- The Anome (talk) 17:50, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Well, this user had a contribution history of editing numerous articles under account(s) from several years ago, but under the Finigrimm account, they apparently only edited their user page. I would argue that page should be left intact, since the user had some mainspace tenure here, and it seems to be the most recently updated userpage they left behind. Mrs. Olson from the Folgers commercials (talk) 18:24, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-21

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

  • Commons had problems with server lag. This meant that it took longer time for files to turn up in categories. [19]

Changes this week

  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 May. It will be on all wikis from 26 May (calendar).

Meetings

  •   You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on May 24 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  •   All HTTP access to Wikimedia sites and APIs will stop working. Some bots still use HTTP. They will need to use HTTPS instead. This will happen on June 12. [20]

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18:40, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Stool pigeon listed at Redirects for discussion

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
 

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Stool pigeon. Since you had some involvement with the Stool pigeon redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Si Trew (talk) 22:45, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-22

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  •   There is now a standard way to get the target of a redirect page from a Lua module. [21]

Problems

  • A new way to handle rollback was introduced. It broke some tools and scripts and was reverted. This will be re-planned after review. [22][23]
  • CentralNotice didn't work in some older browsers. This has now been fixed. [24]

Changes this week

  • When you edit a file or category page with the visual editor the rest of the page will be shown in its normal place. [25]
  • The Translate extension will get an edit summary field. [26]
  • A change to the <charinsert> feature could break some user scripts. Contact Bawolff if the "click to insert special characters" links in the edit window break on your wiki. [27][28]
  • Elasticsearch will be upgraded on Wikimedia wikis this week. This should not affect you, but if you have problems with the search function this is probably the reason. [29]
  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 June. It will be on all wikis from 2 June (calendar).

Meetings

  •   You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 31 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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16:19, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Is not a ... but is a type of ...

Latest comment: 8 years ago5 comments2 people in discussion

I saw The Anomebot2 tagged Wildlife reserve (Brazil) with "coord missing", and you undid the change. I can see why the bot tagged it. The article is in category:Protected areas of Brazil, which implies it is about a protected area, and protected areas should have coords. But the article is not about a protected area, so perhaps it is not categorised right. I can see someone coming across category:Protected areas of Brazil and finding it useful to see an article on this type of protected area. But they will get there quickly enough if they click on category:Wildlife reserves of Brazil, which has {{cat main}} pointing to Wildlife reserve (Brazil). Maybe the articles on types of protected area should be in category:Types of protected area of Brazil under category:Conservation in Brazil and category:Types of protected area by country. Or maybe it is fine the way it is. You must have seen this elsewhere. Thoughts? Aymatth2 (talk) 12:41, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi. Yes, I'm aware of this problem, which is generic over a wide range of different categories. The heuristic that I normally use to prevent it is to spot if an article has an empty category tag (which causes it to be sorted to the head of the category page), that is usually an indicator that an article is about they type of object, and not an example of that type. Articles that belong to "types of" categories are also automatically excluded. The mechanism clearly seems to have failed here: I'll take a look to see if I can find out why. -- The Anome (talk) 13:08, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
OK, I added an empty category sort tag to Wildlife reserve (Brazil), but I can now see your point: there are at least six such articles. -- The Anome (talk) 13:11, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
@Aymatth2: Yes, I think that's the solution. Thanks for spotting this, and also for solving the problem. -- The Anome (talk) 19:25, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-23

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Recent changes

Changes this week

  • The history page can tell you if a page on your watchlist was updated since you last visited it. This now works the same way in Vector as in other skins. The change broke local designs on some wikis. This will be fixed this week. [32]
  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 June. It will be on all wikis from 9 June (calendar).

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20:51, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Hillary Clinton

Latest comment: 8 years ago11 comments4 people in discussion

Thanks for your input, but I think you're supposed to include explanations of your position in the "Discussion" section. The "Survey" section is there for a quick statements that allow readers to get an idea of what the prevailing opinions are. Concrete Cloverleaf (talk) 13:48, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

With all due respect. You're making things more frustrating by pushing the We don't know style edits. GoodDay (talk) 14:16, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

I know -- it frustrates me too. But it is, alas, what policy requires us to do right now, and I'm doing what I can to follow policy and conform to both the discretionary sanctions on that page and WP:NPOV. It's clear which way things are leaning, though, and I imagine all this will be sorted out quite soon, once either the media reaches an overwhelming consensus, or Bernie drops out. -- The Anome (talk) 14:23, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
You definitely don't have a consensus at that article, for the 'we don't know'-type of edits you're pushing. Recommend that you stop pushing them. GoodDay (talk) 14:26, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Please read my edits carefully. There's no consensus for saying she is, and no consensus for saying she isn't: neither is currently allowed. I am not saying "we don't know" either, I'm saying "many major media sources say she is". Which is as strong a statement as we can make right now, without going contrary to policy. -- The Anome (talk) 14:28, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Obviously, I'm not getting through to you. GoodDay (talk) 14:30, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
I hear you just fine. I just don't agree with you. By the way, I think your most recent revision of the article is perfectly acceptable. -- The Anome (talk) 14:32, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Process

Hypothetical scenario, a thought experiment:
Say I did the research and showed that your edits were in fact unsupported by reliable sources. That can rarely be shown with total clarity, but let's say that I did so for the sake of discussion. Would your edits then be in violation of the DS bullet 1? And you should therefore be blocked? You should be blocked for failing to do your research thoroughly enough? I doubt you would easily accept such a block, or should. But this illustrates the fatal flaw in your defense, which was that I didn't dispute the accuracy of your edits.
As I see it, the spirit of the rule is whether your edit is likely to be contentious to a significant number of others acting in good faith -- not whether you believe it should be contentious to them. In my own editing experience in DS environments, I've had little difficulty predicting that. Does it take longer to get that firm consensus? Absolutely. ―Mandruss ☎ 15:19, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

I don't do hypotheticals; but I'm glad you tacitly acknowledge that I was careful to stay, to the best of my ability, within the letter of the boundaries of the DS ruling. As to the spirit: it's clear that the primary criterion for making edits is whether they benefit the encyclopedia. As far as I can see, any controversy about my edits is if anything, now moot. Things have now moved on since earlier today, the firm consensus you sought has been reached (and note that "firm" does not mean "unanimous"), and the cautious position I adopted in my edits now seems, if anything, possibly rather conservative. -- The Anome (talk) 17:34, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
I'm glad you tacitly acknowledge that I was careful to stay, to the best of my ability, within the letter of the boundaries of the DS ruling. FTR, I do not tacitly acknowledge anything of the sort. You applied well-developed Wikipedia doublethink to rationalize doing what another good-faith editor had been blocked for, and you used your status to get away with it. Full stop and finis, and I'm well aware that taking this stand against a sysop is not in my long-term interest. That's the nice thing about DGAF, I can take Wikipedia or leave it. Best of luck. ―Mandruss ☎ 02:21, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
I'm an ordinary editor, just like you, as as open to sanctions any other editor. In particular, I take great care to keep my admin activities separate from my editing contributions, which is not only something admins are required to do in general, but also the right thing to do: admins are not a special class. What you call "Wikipedia doublethink", I call "careful compliance with the rules." I continue to stand by my opinion that my edits were in strict compliance with Wikipedia's rules, and I believe that the subsequent development of the article has shown that they were correct. -- The Anome (talk) 07:32, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-24

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Recent changes

Changes this week

  • You can filter user contributions to hide minor edits. [38]
  • It will be easier to edit galleries with the visual editor. [39]
  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 June. It will be on all wikis from 16 June (calendar).

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18:41, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Tanvir Hassan Zoha

Latest comment: 8 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Do you not think this subject falls under WP:BLP1E? Wanted to get your opinion as I'm thinking of nominating it for deletion. --NeilN talk to me 13:31, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

@NeilN: It definitely looks like an arguable WP:BLP1E to me. -- The Anome (talk) 14:52, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Janus (concurrent constraint programming language)

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
 

The article Janus (concurrent constraint programming language) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Lacks multiple reliable independent sources to establish notability as required by WP:GNG. The one source offered is an academic paper which received only 43 citations. Googling turned up nothing useful.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Msnicki (talk) 05:18, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-25

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Notifications were not always marked as read when you followed a link from an email notification. This will now happen. [40]

Changes this week

  • The list of other languages an article is available in will be shorter on small Wikipedias and non-Wikipedia projects. This is to make it easier to find the most relevant languages for each user. You will still be able to see the other languages. [41][42]
  • Alerts (the red badge) will not be automatically marked as read when you open the Notifications popup. [43]
  • When you get several thanks you can see them as one notification. This is instead of one notification for each thanks. [44]
  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 June. It will be on all wikis from 23 June (calendar).

Meetings

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19:14, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Victoria

Latest comment: 8 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

Previous discussion - our alteration has been reverted. I don't know where to raise an Australian question on an Australian issue on other subjects, so I'm at a loss as to what to do ... Dave Rave (talk) 11:43, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Would Talk:Ballarat to Daylesford railway line be useable in discussion? Dave Rave (talk) 05:57, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-26

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The ORES service has now moved to a new location. This should make it easier to use ORES. The ORES review service is now available as a beta feature on Wikidata and Persian Wikipedia. ORES is an artificial intelligence system for Wikimedia wikis to help editors. [45]
  • The order of wikis in collapsed cross-wiki notifications was different than when the list was expanded. This is now fixed. [46]
  • A new category for tracking pages with math errors was added: Category:Pages with math errors. [47]

Problems

Changes this week

  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 June. It will be on all wikis from 30 June (calendar).
  • The way to mark notifications as read or unread will be changed to be more clear. [50]

Meetings

  •   You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 28 June at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • The Collaboration team at the Wikimedia Foundation will look at developing better tools for edit review. This is because research suggests we scare away newcomers who want to help. [51]
  • An e-mail from the Editing Department explains the technical work that is planned and being researched for the future. Items include better wikitext and visual editing, prompts for edits, language improvements, annotations, and meta-data separation. [52]
  • The sorting of Notifications into the two fly-out menus is going to change on July 5 to 7. Bundled notifications should be easier to explore and mark as read individually. [53][54][55]
  •   From 29 June git.wikimedia.org (running Gitblit) will redirect all requests to Phabricator. The vast majority of requests should be correctly redirected. [56]
  • Catalan and Polish Wikipedias will have Wikidata descriptions added to articles in the mobile view by default. This is currently a beta option for the mobile versions. This might come to other wikis later. [57]

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15:42, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Wrong coordinates

Latest comment: 8 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Just wanted to tell you that your bot (User:The Anomebot2) got the coordinates of Nekor wrong. Nekor is in Morocco, but it has confused the place with somewhere in India called Nakur. --Hibernian (talk) 16:31, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. The coordinates had been pulled from Wikidata, where links to the two places had become mistakenly unified, leading to the wrong geodata being copied: I've now re-arranged the links on Wikidata so that the relevant pages are now correctly linked to their respective items. -- The Anome (talk) 17:11, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Editing News #2—2016

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Editing News #2—2016 Read this in another language • Subscription list for this multilingual newsletter

 
Did you know?

It's quick and easy to insert a references list.

 

Place the cursor where you want to display the references list (usually at the bottom of the page). Open the "Insert" menu and click the "References list" icon (three books).

If you are using several groups of references, which is relatively rare, you will have the opportunity to specify the group. If you do that, then only the references that belong to the specified group will be displayed in this list of references.

Finally, click "Insert" in the dialog to insert the References list. This list will change as you add more footnotes to the page.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has fixed many bugs. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for Arabic and Indic scripts, and adapting the visual editor to the needs of the Wikivoyages and Wikisources.

Recent changes

The visual editor is now available to all users at most Wikivoyages. It was also enabled for all contributors at the French Wikinews.

The single edit tab feature combines the "Edit" and "Edit source" tabs into a single "Edit" tab. It has been deployed to several Wikipedias, including Hungarian, Polish, English and Japanese Wikipedias, as well as to all Wikivoyages. At these wikis, you can change your settings for this feature in the "Editing" tab of Special:Preferences. The team is now reviewing the feedback and considering ways to improve the design before rolling it out to more people.

Future changes

The "Save page" button will say "Publish page". This will affect both the visual and wikitext editing systems. More information is available on Meta.

The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the remaining "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next few months. The developers want to know whether typing in your language feels natural in the visual editor. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. This will affect several languages, including: Arabic, Hindi, Thai, Tamil, Marathi, Malayalam, Urdu, Persian, Bengali, Assamese, Aramaic and others.

The team is working with the volunteer developers who power Wikisource to provide the visual editor there, for opt-in testing right now and eventually for all users. (T138966)

The team is working on a modern wikitext editor. It will look like the visual editor, and be able to use the citoid service and other modern tools. This new editing system may become available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices around September 2016. You can read about this project in a general status update on the Wikimedia mailing list.

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ITN recognition for Gordon Murray (puppeteer)

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
 

On 1 July 2016, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Gordon Murray (puppeteer), which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:56, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Tanvir Hassan Zoha for deletion

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
 

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Tanvir Hassan Zoha is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tanvir Hassan Zoha until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. NeilN talk to me 14:59, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-27

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • A daily email summary of notifications could be sent even when there were no notifications from the wiki. Now no email will be sent if there is no activity. [58]

Changes this week

  • The "⧼citoid-citefromidtool-title⧽" button in the visual editor's toolbar will move into the "Insert" menu except for Wikipedias, Wikibookses and Wikiversities. This is to make it less prominent on wikis that don't use it as much. [59]
  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 July. It will be on all wikis from 7 July (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can take part in the next office hour for Wikidata on IRC on July 8 at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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19:45, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Answer to your message

Latest comment: 8 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion
   Thanks for your comment, you're right. So now what about mentioning other points of view in that article, this is, something different than promoting a minoritary practice based on abuse, violence and lack of respect for human dignity. You know, some criticism or contrasting views which represent the ideas of all that 99% of people who thinks abuse and violence is not quite right. I am quite sure this will be ignored (that's usually called 'consensus' around here), but be sure that this won't bother me in the slightest, unlike you.
Thanks for your evident objectivity and understanding of others' point of view  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sfgdgv (talk • contribs) 18:42, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
@Sfgdgv: Wikipedia already provides a mechanism for what you are trying to achieve, subject to the standard polices defined in WP:NPOV. If you want to do this, the next thing to do is to take this discussion to Talk:BDSM, and discuss with other editors how this viewpoint could be represented in that article subject to Wikipedia's normal editorial processes and WP:NPOV policy.

Before you do that, you should find some reliable sources to back up your assertion that "99% of people" think that BDSM is abuse, so that you can satisfy the NPOV policy's requirement for reliable sources to be given for assertions. You might, for example, want to take a look at some of the various surveys and research papers on BDSM: there are some really quite good figures now on BDSM participation and public attitudes to it, as well as on the characteristics of those involved in BDSM. Please note that you might be surprised by their conclusions. If you have any problems, and in particular if you feel that other editors are not following Wikipedia's editorial policies, please let me know. -- The Anome (talk) 18:52, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

@Sfgdgv: How are you getting on with your research? -- The Anome (talk) 11:08, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Dumbarton Academy

Latest comment: 8 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

Please explain this edit in which you went back to the 3 february version with no explanation, including re-adding a lot of non-notable people (please see WP:ALUMNI) and removing my 1 July sourced update about the head teacher. Thanks. PamD 11:08, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

From the earlier version of the article: "Today the pupils serve the Deathstar and currently has a roll of over 600 Stormtroopers ... Darth Vader is the head master." I saw the list of people; I winnowed a couple out who did not seem to meet the notability criteria, and left some in who I thought were on the boundary. People do not, in general, need to meet the notability criteria to be mentioned in articles, only to have articles about them. I didn't notice your update about the head teacher, for which please accept my apologies -- I've now put it back in. -- The Anome (talk) 11:13, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
Sweeping away 4 months of edits is not the way to fix some silly vandalism. And WP:ALUMNI says that people in lists of school alumni should be notable. PamD 11:20, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
You're right, and I slipped up on this one by being over-zealous in trying to find a last-previous-good version. Still, at least the Star Wars stuff is gone now, and the article is in better shape than it was yesterday. -- The Anome (talk) 11:23, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

coordinate missing

Latest comment: 8 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

I greatly appreciate the bot adding the coordinate missing tag and often add the coordinates as a reaction to it. However what can I do to signal to the bot that this is an article that doesn't meaningfully have coordinates. As a concrete example, it has tagged the Queensland Heritage Register, which isn't really a place. I guess I could just shove in any old coordinates for Queensland, but I don't think that's the right thing to do. I'd rather flag the article as not needing coordinates.Kerry (talk) 04:11, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for spotting this, and many thanks for adding coordinates. You're quite right, it shouldn't have been added. I've removed the tag, and taken a look at how it got to be added. The bot added the tag because it was listed under Category:Buildings and structures in Queensland. Although the article had an empty category sort tag in one of its categories (something which would have stopped the bot from adding the tag as a sign that the article was "meta" to a category) the category with the empty sort tag had exactly the same name as the article, a case the bot is programmed to ignore, as it generates many false negatives otherwise. This won't happen again to this particular article, as the bot is programmed not to re-add tags to articles it has already visited, and I've added a second empty category sort tag, this time to the buildings-and-structures category, for the benefit of any other re-users of the category tree data who might be using similar strategies to analyze it.

I looked into adding a specific heuristic to catch this case, and decided against it on a cost-benefit basis; every extra heuristic added itself generates its own set of possible false positives, and this is a sufficiently unusual set of circumstances that I don't believe adding a specific heuristic for this case would improve the overall accuracy sufficiently to justify it. -- The Anome (talk) 11:05, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

I quite understand why it would think that article might need coordinates. ButI didn't realise that it doesn't revisit articles. I just assumed sooner or later it would be back demanding coordinates again if I simply removed the tag. Thanks Kerry (talk) 12:56, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-28

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15:15, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Sara Jay for deletion

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
 

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Sara Jay is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sara Jay (4th nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:15, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

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12:01, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

FYI

Latest comment: 8 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Hello Anome. I saw your post at ANI and I wanted to let you know that pings do not work for IPs - It is kinda hidden in the "mentions" section of Wikipedia:Notifications#Triggering events. Hopefully the IP will be watching the page. You've probably seen that, over the last few months, admins get a lot of trolling (VoteXforChange being one of the main culprits) at ANI. Hopefully this isn't one of those situations. Thanks for all you do here at WikiP and cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 22:57, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know -- and thanks for your kind words, too. -- The Anome (talk) 23:00, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
You are most welcome. MarnetteD|Talk 23:12, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Trout

Latest comment: 8 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion
 

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

Doc talk 09:40, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

@Doc9871: Hi. You're right, I shouldn't have reverted you without an edit comment. However, I can't see any problem with the inclusion of the link you deleted in this revision of the article. If you disagree, please let me know why. -- The Anome (talk) 09:44, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
I disagree with the essay being used by administrators in their blocking rationales. It's lazy; and the essay has far less oversight than a policy page would. You didn't do anything wrong, really. Thanks for responding! Cheers ;) Doc talk 10:00, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

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  • Wikipedia search will now detect the language of your search if 2 or fewer results are found. It will then show results from the matching language Wikipedia, if any relevant article exists. It will start to roll out in 5 languages. [83]

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19:54, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

0.9999... < 1

Latest comment: 8 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

Hi, Thanks for the link to the proof that has the authority of being "computer verified" - which by the way adds nothing to its veracity. The use of "authority" is a well documented technique of propaganda, and is what the 0.9999 page has become. You may have guessed I haven't visited your link.

I expect Mr Anderson will have his paper published before very long for peer review, and that's his business. I'm not that fussed what you do, and I personally have lost interest in putting this up on Wikipedia. Its a shame <....censored....> that you cant see yourselves anymore. I think you'll find that that Mr Andersons proof will be a valued contribution to this (ultimately very petty) question, and maybe Wikipedia moderators take themselves a little too seriously. I cant take Wikipedia seriously anymore even if I try.

Accusing Mr Anderson of not understanding Limits is pretty insane, given that everything he has said in his post is pretty well supported in other Wikipedia pages. This accusation simply observes that Mr Anderson does not hold to popular misunderstandings of limits. Nevertheless, have it your way. "He doesn't understand limits." That's pretty laughable really.

In any case, thank you for your comments. AlexAlexander Bunyip (talk) 16:01, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

I didn't say anything about him not understanding limits: I suspect you may be confusing me with another editor. The primary issue here is that his claimed proof is self-published, and that invalidates it as a source for the article. The merits of the claimed proof are irrelevant. Please see WP:RS and WP:FRINGE for more on this. -- The Anome (talk) 16:04, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
Actually I think wikipedia is so confusing that you confuse yourselves as well as the people who try to use it. After 20 years it cant even update itself into the 21st century with a proper Talk forum so everyone can see what everyone else has been said on the thread. You are correct, in that YOU did not say anything about Limits, but neither did I assert that YOU accused him. It was another moderator that did that, and its the reason given for reverting the change. What YOU did do was send me a link asserting that there was a proof to the contrary. Why would you do THAT if you now say above "The merits of the claimed proof are irrelevant"? Now you say its "self published"! Make up your mind. (Sure. Self published. Now I've heard everything. Please dont reply further. I wont be.) Alexander Bunyip (talk) 17:40, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
...and here's what you posted on my Talk page....
Hi: regarding the article 0.999..., could you take any issues you have with that article to the talk page, please? I took a look at the argument on the page you linked to, and I can't quite see how it qualifies as a "watertight proof". I'd be interested to hear what you think of this proof, which is a complete and rigorous machine-checkable proof of 0.999... = 1. -- The Anome (talk) 14:56, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Alexander Bunyip (talk) 17:44, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-31

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21:48, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Victoria

Latest comment: 8 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Previous discussion - our alteration has been reverted. I don't know where to raise an Australian question on an Australian issue on other subjects, so I'm at a loss as to what to do ... Dave Rave (talk) 11:43, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Would Talk:Ballarat to Daylesford railway line be useable in discussion? Dave Rave (talk) 05:57, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
@Dave Rave: Possibly. I think this is really something for the community, and in particular WikiProject Australia to sort out. I'll go along with whatever they decide, and can make use my bot to make any necessary changes of the {{coord missing}} tags: the issue is purely a technical issue for me. -- The Anome (talk) 07:57, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Possible new categories for the ‎The Anomebot2

Latest comment: 8 years ago7 comments2 people in discussion

Darley Oak had no coord missing tag. Some possible cats to trawl might be Category:Individual oak trees, Category:Individual trees in the United Kingdom, Category:Bodmin Moor, Category:Environment of Cornwall. hth --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:54, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. They should all be done now, bar Christmas Trees and one 'undisclosed location' tree. --Tagishsimon (talk) 14:00, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
Thank you! -- The Anome (talk) 14:07, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
Three out of the four you reverted have no indication of secrecy. So. That's odd. --Tagishsimon (talk) 18:38, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
I reverted Koca Porsuk because it's the third oldest tree in the world. They are making a 150-hectare area around it a national monument, but I can't see any sign that they are disclosing the exact location, nor is there any sign of photos with tourists or a sign nearby. However, I've reinstated the missing tag on Koca Katran, because an image search shows that it clearly has a sign at the bottom of it, and there are numerous pictures of different groups of people standing under it. -- The Anome (talk) 21:38, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-32

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  • If you use the wikEd gadget, changes you made were not kept when you switched from the wikitext editor to the visual editor while you were editing. This has now been fixed. [90]

Changes this week

  • Wikimedia search will now ignore question marks at the end of the sentences or words you use when you search. Until now the question mark was just a wildcard. [91]
  • On Commons, UploadWizard will now be available on mobile, rather than just the old upload form. This should reduce the workload for the community in reviewing images. [92]
  • When you edit with the visual editor a puzzle symbol tells you there is an invisible template in the article. It will now mention the name of the template. [93]
  • The button to read something in another language will move for mobile users. This will happen on 9 August. [94]
  • When someone mentions you and links to your user page you get a notification. You will now get a notification when you mention yourself this way. [95]
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15:41, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Abuse filter

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hi, because of an irritating AbuseFilter bug, we (Kaldari, MusikAnimal and I) are going to do an update next week that will affect one of your filters. We hope we'll fix all affected filters ourselves, but we're of course grateful if you want to help us. The issue is explained here; the current plan is here. In any case, we wanted you to be aware what's happening, and you're very welcome to help out of course. The filter in question is hidden so I won't name it publicly, but contact me in any way you feel comfortable with if you want more details. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 16:27, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-33

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  • Last week Tech News announced you will get a notification when you mention yourself the same way as if someone else had mentioned you. This caused some problems and will happen later instead. [97]
  • Creating and editing links to sections on other pages on the wiki now works again in the visual editor. [98]
  • For some users, cross-wiki notifications haven't been working properly. The count has been wrong when only cross-wiki notifications were present. The cross-wiki bundle has been showing only the names of wikis and not the actual notifications. This will be fixed soon. [99][100]

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  • The login session when you choose "Keep me logged in" will now last a year. Previously it was 30 days. This will happen on August 16. [101]
  • Some abuse filters will have to be updated during the week. This is because a bug will be fixed. [102]
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19:37, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Answer to your comment. ..

Latest comment: 8 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

Fine, thanks. I won't bother anymore. Dealing with average administrators and editors is too often like talking to a wall. The day issues like those I talk about can be discussed here, please inform me, then I'd be pleased to colaborate. Have a nice day, and goodbye --Jlsmn75 (talk) 13:06, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment. If you'd like to contribute to Wikipedia in future, a full guide to Wikipedia's conventions and rules of engagement can be found at WP:WELCOME. I'd recommend starting with Wikipedia:Plain and simple. -- The Anome (talk) 13:15, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
What should be done when you find terribly biased articles, controlled by factions of editors and administrators, which undo any contrary edit and are completely closed to any discussion? I've found that, as a humble editor, I can't do anything, any editor like me is completely powerless against such unfair situations. That brings the worst in me, it leads to great frustration and to the kind of edit you reverted, I see no other option

--Jlsmn75 (talk) 14:02, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

The first thing to do is to take it to the talk page of the article (in this case, Talk:BDSM), and put forward a case for your proposed edits. See Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle for a guide to this. It's also a good idea to WP:Assume good faith in other editors' motives. Also, it would help if you made your edits clear in your edit comments: marking this edit to BDSM, which made major changes to the meaning of some parts of the article, with "maintenance, minor corrections" does not seem to me to reflect the substance of your edit. -- The Anome (talk) 14:13, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

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21:18, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Re:Bot account

Latest comment: 8 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

I wasn't planning to use it in an automated fashion until I got a task approved. I was under the impression that it is acceptable and advisable to do sandbox testing beforehand and that bot accounts don't require approval but rather the automated task itself. Was I wrong in this assumption?--Joel Amos (talk) 17:57, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

@Joel Amos: On review, I think you're right, and I might have been too doctrinaire on blocking this -- please accept my apologies. I have unblocked the account. Regards, -- The Anome (talk) 09:37, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks!--Joel Amos (talk) 17:39, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-35

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16:02, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Latest comment: 8 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion
  The Editor's Barnstar
Train overcrowding in the United Kingdom - Wow, superb work and editing, thanks so much, that, your efforts to do that, to create that truly worthwhile article from a politically motivated newsy throwaway chip story is exactly what makes this project great. Govindaharihari (talk) 19:03, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
Thank you! -- The Anome (talk) 09:39, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-36

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  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 September. It will be on all wikis from 8 September (calendar).

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17:12, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-37

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  • The RevisionSlider will be available as a beta feature on all wikis from 13 September. This will make it easier to navigate between diffs in the page history. [130]
  •   A new user right will allow most users to change the content model of pages. [131][132]
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18:04, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Request

Latest comment: 8 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

It can be seen from your edit history that at least some of your edits on articles about sex damage to some extent the neutrality of the article. I come here after seeing your activity on 'Effects of pornography' Would you consider being more mindful before doing whitewashing? I write to you instead of editing because (from your activity) you look prone to edit out without discussion contributions which go against your interests. Also, more civility on your part can only be welcome. --JanKM (talk) 14:43, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Can you be more specific, please? As far as I can see, my edits reflect the reliable sources cited. Also, I hope this is not an inappropriate question, but this appears to be your account's first edit, made rather surprisingly to a user talk page, with correct editing formatting, and stating that you have been reading my edit history, and raising the issue of civility, all suggesting some prior experience with Wikipedia's mechanisms and rules. Can you please tell me if you have edited Wikipedia before under some other account name? (We have a recurring issue with one editor who has edited sex articles under multiple account names, making similar complaints about "whitewashing" and "propaganda", and I'd be interested to know if you are the same editor.) -- The Anome (talk) 10:31, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
  The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For the efforts to protect the redirects to BDSM. Murph9000 (talk) 15:16, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

BDSM vandal

Latest comment: 8 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

When you get the chance, would you mind semi-protecting suffering and Consent (BDSM) to prevent more nonsense from User:Ascvlvfkd. Sro23 (talk) 01:54, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-38

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

Changes this week

  •   The new version of MediaWiki will hopefully be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 September. It will be on all wikis from 22 September (calendar). This is the version that was meant to go out last week.

Meetings

Future changes

  • Wikidata will start working on adding support for Wiktionary. The Wikidata development team is now taking one last look at the development plan. [135]

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22:09, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Three years ago ...
 
missing coordinates
and images
... you were recipient
no. 606 of Precious,
a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:40, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Olive McFarland

Latest comment: 8 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Sorry about that: looks as if we were both working on copyediting the article at the same time. Now fixed. --RFBailey (talk) 16:49, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

@RFBailey: I think you're right. Thank you for sorting things. -- The Anome (talk) 16:50, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Extended confirmed protection

 

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In July and August 2016, a request for comment established consensus for community use of the new protection level. Administrators are authorized to apply extended confirmed protection to combat any form of disruption (e.g. vandalism, sock puppetry, edit warring, etc.) on any topic, subject to the following conditions:

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Tech News: 2016-39

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • If your wiki wants numerical sorting in categories you can request it after a community decision. See how to request it. [136]
  • When you edit text and mention a new username they are notified if you add your signature. Before this only happened under certain conditions. [137]
  • Users are notified if they are mentioned in a section where you add your own signature even if you edit more than one section. Before, users were not notified if you edited more than one section in one edit. [138]

Problems

Changes this week

  • There will be no new MediaWiki version this week. [141]

Meetings

Future changes

  •   Abandoned tools on Tool Labs could be taken over by other developers. There is a new discussion on Meta about this. It will be discussed until 12 October and then voted on. [142]

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18:07, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Request For Deletion of East Waynesville Baptist Church

Latest comment: 8 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

I have submitted a deletion request for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Waynesville_Baptist_Church. The article for deletion is located at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/East_Waynesville_Baptist_Church Thank You --Timothywebb (talk) 17:25, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

No compliance with WP:Before and WP:PROD. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:59, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of East Waynesville Baptist Church

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
 

The article East Waynesville Baptist Church has been proposed for deletion. The proposed deletion notice added to the article should explain why.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Timothywebb (talk) 18:19, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Disputed edit on Hillary Clinton

Latest comment: 8 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

I would ask that you self-revert your edit; there is not at all consensus for inclusion of a claim solely sourced to Dinesh d'Souza in this article, and as per the discretionary sanctions imposed on the page, All editors must obtain consensus on the talk page of this article before reinstating any edits that have been challenged (via reversion). If in doubt, don't make the edit. A self-revert and talk page discussion would be appropriate. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 09:42, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Ah. I hadn't noticed that before I made my edit, and _then_ moved to the talk page-- yes, I will self-revert now. -- The Anome (talk) 09:44, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
@NorthBySouthBaranof: Update: I see you've reverted it for me. However, please note my comment on the talk page: our job is not to whitewash candidates by eliminated all mention of mud being thrown at them; instead, we should clearly identify these claims as partisan claims by opponents. Exactly the same should go for edits to the Trump article: NPOV is a core principle which applies to all articles. Let's discuss this on the article talk page. -- The Anome (talk) 09:49, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-40

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes this week

  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 October. It will be on all wikis from 6 October (calendar).

Meetings

  •   You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 4 October at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  •   Tidy will be replaced. Instead the HTML 5 parsing algorithm will be used to clean up bad HTML in wikitext. This would cause problems on a number of wikis. They need to be fixed first. [143]
  • <slippymap> will not work on Wikivoyage after 24 October. You should use <mapframe> instead. If you need help to fix this before 24 October you should ask for it as soon as possible. [144]

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21:30, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-41

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can show Special:RecentChanges on a page by using {{Special:RecentChanges}}. You can now use tag filters by using {{Special:RecentChanges/tagfilter=tagname}}. [145]
  • The notification badge is coloured if you have notifications. When you check the notification the badge will now turn grey on all wikis instead of just the local one. [146]
  • Colours used in the Wikimedia wikis' main interface changed slightly. This is to make them easier to see for readers and editors with reduced eyesight. [147]

Changes this week

  • Hidden HTML comments will be more visible when you edit with the visual editor. <!-- You write hidden HTML comments like this. --> [148]
  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 October. It will be on all wikis from 13 October (calendar).

Meetings

Future changes

  • Language converter syntax will soon no longer work inside external links. Wikitext like http://-{zh-cn:foo.com; zh-hk:bar.com; zh-tw:baz.com}- must be replaced. You will have to write -{zh-cn: http://foo.com ; zh-hk: http://bar.com ; zh-tw:http://baz.com }- instead. This only affects languages with Language Converter enabled. Examples of such languages are Chinese and Serbian. [149]

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20:30, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Recent block

Latest comment: 8 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Thank you for blocking User:SmartestBonerAlive. You may wish to consider blocking User:TheSmartestBonerAlive as well. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:50, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

@Hammersoft: Done. -- The Anome (talk) 15:54, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

"sic"

Latest comment: 8 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Thanks for your message. Since the word "surburb" is misspelled, I thought it would be a good idea to indicate that this is a quote from the source. --Edcolins (talk) 19:43, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

@Edcolins: You're right! Sorry for being so unobservant, and apologies for the inconvenience. -- The Anome (talk) 20:03, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
No worries :-) I have changed it back with a "hidden" comment. --Edcolins (talk) 20:18, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Editing News #3—2016

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

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Did you know?

Did you know that you can easily re-arrange columns and rows in the visual editor?

 

Select a cell in the column or row that you want to move. Click the arrow at the start of that row or column to open the dropdown menu (shown). Choose either "Move before" or "Move after" to move the column, or "Move above" or "Move below" to move the row.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has mainly worked on a new wikitext editor. They have also released some small features and the new map editing tool. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. You can find links to the list of work finished each week at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. Their current priorities are fixing bugs, releasing the 2017 wikitext editor as a beta feature, and improving language support.

Recent changes

  • You can now set text as small or big.[150]
  • Invisible templates have been shown as a puzzle icon. Now, the name of the invisible template is displayed next to the puzzle icon.[151] A similar feature will display the first part of hidden HTML comments.[152]
  • Categories are displayed at the bottom of each page. If you click on the categories, the dialog for editing categories will open.[153]
  • At many wikis, you can now add maps to pages. Go to the Insert menu and choose the "Maps" item. The Discovery department are adding more features to this area, like geoshapes. You can read more on MediaWiki.org.[154]
  • The "Save" button now says "Save page" when you create a page, and "Save changes" when you change an existing page.[155] In the future, the "Save page" button will say "Publish page". This will affect both the visual and wikitext editing systems. More information is available on Meta.
  • Image galleries now use a visual mode for editing. You can see thumbnails of the images, add new files, remove unwanted images, rearrange the images by dragging and dropping, and add captions for each image. Use the "Options" tab to set the gallery's display mode, image sizes, and add a title for the gallery.[156]

Future changes

The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the remaining 10 "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next month. The developers want to know whether typing in your language feels natural in the visual editor. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. This will affect several languages, including Thai, Burmese and Aramaic.

The team is working on a modern wikitext editor. The 2017 wikitext editor will look like the visual editor and be able to use the citoid service and other modern tools. This new editing system may become available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices in October 2016. You can read about this project in a general status update on the Wikimedia mailing list.

Let's work together

Do you teach new editors how to use the visual editor? Did you help set up the Citoid automatic reference feature for your wiki? Have you written or imported TemplateData for your most important citation templates? Would you be willing to help new editors and small communities with the visual editor? Please sign up for the new VisualEditor Community Taskforce.

If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:18, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-42

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

  • Some users got a warning about Wikipedia's security certificate last week. This was because of a problem GlobalSign had. This has now been fixed. Only a small number of users got the warning. [157]
  • Editors couldn't edit semi-protected pages in the Wikipedia app for Android. This has now been fixed in the beta version. [158]

Changes this week

  • There will be no new MediaWiki version this week. [159]

Future changes

  • The Editing Department are working on a new wikitext editor. It will have tools that are in the visual editor but not in the wikitext editor today. You can read more about this. This is an early plan and things can change. The old wikitext editor will still exist.

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16:42, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-43

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

Changes this week

  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from October 25. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from October 26. It will be on all wikis from October 27 (calendar).
  • The "Search" text in the search box will show the name of the project. For example, on Wikipedia it will say "Search Wikipedia". [161]
  • About a dozen wikis now have numerical sorting in categories. If your wiki wants numerical sorting in categories you can ask for it. [162]
  • Some wikis that want numerical sorting in categories can also ask to use UCA to sort categories. The biggest difference is that characters with diacritics will be sorted together. For example, for most languages Ä will be sorted with A instead of at the end of the alphabet. This is not true for languages that have Ä as a character in their alphabet. Wikis that already use UCA are listed on Meta. Languages that can use UCA are listed on MediaWiki.org. You can test it.

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17:39, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Old page deletion at Talk:Mind control

Latest comment: 8 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hello, I know this was a remarkably long time ago, but do you happen to remember why you deleted the mind control talk page back in March 2004. Duue to subsequent database wibbles, those edits are gone permanently now. I realise that selective deletion wasn't a thing back then, and I'm also led to believe that weird and wonderful things happened if you hit the delete button twice, as you did there. Here were your contributions at the time. I'll add whatever you say here to my list of page history observations, but I don't plan to import any edits this time, because the gap between the latest edit I have and the earliest edit in the current database is too great. Thanks. Graham87 08:54, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

No -- I can't remember that far back. I had a look at the links you gave, but it didn't jog any memories. -- The Anome (talk) 09:00, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-44

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Now you can include Commons video films with subtitles in your wiki language. Before you could see translated videos on file page at Commons only. [163]
  • Search now has an updated preference tab to configure the search completion suggester. [164]
  • The visual editor is now available on all wikis using only one language script. [165]

Changes this week

  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from November 1st. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from November 2nd. It will be on all wikis from November 3rd (calendar).
  • Now you can use autocomplete for page names in "Preview page with this template (what's this?)" field when editing templates. [166]
  • Special:NewPages can now be filtered by page size. [167]

Future changes

  •   New MediaWiki deployments will be now based on MediaWiki 1.29. [168]

Miscellaneous

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16:18, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Fractional Reserve Banking

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hi,

I saw that you made edits to Fractional Reserve Banking recently. I wonder if you would like to vote or pass comment on this rather important proposed change to the page => Time to change which theory gets prominence? - BTW, yes I know that this has been discussed before, but I think that there are good reasons why this issue should periodically be reviewed. Cheers Reissgo (talk) 08:19, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-45

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Victoria Coleman is the new Chief technology officer for the Wikimedia Foundation. [169]
  • First release candidate for MediaWiki 1.28 is now available. [170]
  •   .gitreview for MediaWiki branches and extensions switched from targeting a specific branch to using track=1. [171]
  • Section numbers in Table of Contents boxes will use grey to improve readability. [172]

Changes this week

Meetings

  •   You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 8 November 2016 at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
  •   You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topics this week are Image Thumbnail API and allow SVG files uploaded on MediaWiki to have XHTML namespaces. The meeting will be on 9 November at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

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23:01, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

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