Thebiguglyalien

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Your GA nomination of Edith Roosevelt

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Your GA nomination of Edith Roosevelt

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Your GA nomination of Thor (Marvel Comics)

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Your GA nomination of Fear of bees

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Your GA nomination of Thor (Marvel Comics)

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Your GA nomination of Fear of bees

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Your GA nomination of Fear of bees

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Your GA nomination of Kgari Sechele II

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Your GA nomination of Kgari Sechele II

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Your GA nomination of 1978 Gilbertese Chief Minister election

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Your GA nomination of 1978 Gilbertese Chief Minister election

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Promotion of Iron Man

Congratulations, Thebiguglyalien! The article you nominated, Iron Man, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Gog the Mild (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:05, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• Congratulations on getting this article promoted to FA status. I know how much work you have put in it, and you have done a great job. Aoba47 (talk) 01:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks! I'm just glad that we now have a starting point proving that comic book characters can have articles that are in-depth but still well-sourced. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 01:41, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

  I agree. Hopefully, this means that more comic book characters (and characters in general) will be nominated for FACs in the future. Aoba47 (talk) 02:56, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• Congrats on getting Iron Man to FA status! You have done an amazing job with it, and it's so nice to finally have another comics character article besides Anarky that has FA status. I agree with Aoba in hoping that Iron Man's success helps prompt the reworking and promotion of other character articles in the future. I also hope that my nitpicky comments didn't get too annoying. I really wanted the article to succeed and be promoted to FA, but I also wanted to ensure I did an actual review of its content, rather than half-assing it, and help make it better. PanagiotisZois (talk) 10:38, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

@Thebiguglyalien: Great job on this one! Hawkeye7 (discuss) 08:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 1987 Kiribati presidential election

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Iron Man scheduled for TFA

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Thank you

Hey, I just wanted to say thanks for all the work you put into the Iron Man page. It's inspiring to see, especially since there aren't enough fictional character articles that are Featured Articles.

If you have any interest in working on the pages for Darth Vader or Princess Leia, those are two articles about extremely notable characters which amazingly are not even Good Articles. I've done a lot of work on both of them, but have now moved on from working on Star Wars pages. Just a thought. Thanks again for your contributions to Wikipedia. Wafflewombat (talk) 17:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 1983 Kiribati presidential election

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Your GA nomination of Ieremia Tabai

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Your GA nomination of Literature of Botswana

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WikiCup 2024 August newsletter

The fourth round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 29 August. Each of the 8 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 472 points, and the following contestants scored more than 700 points:

• Generalissima (submissions) with 1,150 points, mostly from 3 featured articles, 2 featured lists, 7 good articles, and 13 did you know nominations;
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Congratulations to our eight finalists and all who participated. Contestants put in extraordinary amounts of effort during this round, and their scores can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 36 featured articles, 55 featured lists, 15 good articles, 93 in the news credits, and at least 333 did you know credits. They have conducted 357 featured content reviews, as well as 553 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 30 articles to featured topics and good topics.

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2001

You shouldn't have made this revert. The source appears to be faulty. Two of the buildings you claim were completed/opened in 2001 were actually completed/opened in 2000. Besides, now that those entries that were correct have been moved to 2001 in architecture, you're just duplicating what is in the main article. Hardly any of the content is of international significance and it doesn't belong in the introduction. Deb (talk) 07:10, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Replied at Talk:2001 since you've posted this there as well. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 14:19, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 1983 Kiribati presidential election

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Your GA nomination of Melania Trump

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DCWC September update

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Your GA nomination of Term limits in Russia

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Your GA nomination of 1991 Kiribati presidential election

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Close at Talk:List of U.S. executive branch czars

Thanks for closing that discussion - it was getting a bit stale, and was past the 30-day length for an RFC for a while.

I have a couple of questions for you:

• You mentioned the count before discarding votes was 12-11; I counted 12-12. Did you consider 2601:600:817F:16F0:DDAC:53F8:F543:7659's comments? They made an unbolded vote, with improper threading (sticking theirs up top, later than other replies)
• After discarding votes that "show no understanding of the matter of issue" or provided no rationale whatsoever, the count I get is 8-10, whereas you came up with 11-8. Whose votes did you discard in this manner to get this count?
• Now the most subjective question: after throwing out votes that "flatly contradict established policy" - like applying WP:SIGCOV to a question of verifiability (when it's a notability test, for making a standalone article on a topic), or simply claiming inserting would fail WP:NPOV without seriously engaging in the substance of discussion on why - the count I get is 5-10. This would certainly seem like a stronger consensus of editors who supported inclusion.

Thanks. PhotogenicScientist (talk) 19:40, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

I did count 2601's unbolded !vote. It was a rough count by hand, so it's possible I was slightly off in either direction, but certainly not enough that it would have moved the needle on consensus. Here's the list I wrote out in my scratchwork:

• Macaddct1984: 1
• 2601:600:817F:16F0: 2
• PerseusMeredith: 2
• Muboshgu: 1
• M.boli: 1
• Objective3000: 1
• Rhododendrites: 4 > 1 or bad RfC
• AjaxSmack: N/A
• XavierItzm: 2
• Chaptagai: 2 or 4
• GordonGlottal: 1
• Bob the Cannibal: 2
• Garnet Moss: 2
• 74.64.100.109: 2
• Killuminator: 2
• PhotogenicScientist: 2
• 193.115.85.154: 3
• MelbourneStar: 1 or 4
• NE Ent: 2 or 4
• SPECIFICO: 1
• 24.90.253.80: N/A
• JSwift49: 2
• Locke Cole: 1
• Nfitz: 1
• SarekOfVulcan: 4 > 1
• AusLondonder: N/A
• Gamaliel: 1

Do let me know if you happen to notice anyone I missed. The !votes that didn't have a substantial rationale or focused on procedural issues instead of the subject were:

• Option 2 is the right choice. Even with the Wikipedia liberal bias, Option 2 should be approved.
• I would support either Option 2 or Option 4 with no preference between the two. I also think the article should be frozen in Option 2 so as to not endorse either of the sides while the debate is ongoing.
• Option 2 Seems to be the most reasonable, omitting it entirely is partisan hackery.
• Option 4 first choice, option 1 second choice. And AfD might work, as the criteria are so fuzzy, but probably not, because of the sourcing.

Again, giving those !votes full weight or no weight wouldn't be quite enough to sway consensus in my opinion, so my focus was not on exactly how much weight should be given to these four. I was reserved in which !votes I weighed down so long as they gave some sort of rationale. There was support for these interpretations of coverage and POV, even if they didn't invoke the policy or guideline I would have applied. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 20:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

The missing !vote was AjaxSmack. Though they declined to participate in the discussion (which, in AP2, can you blame them?), they were the original proposer of the content into the article, so I notched them as a general 2/4 vote.

I also struck 3 of those 4 you did. Though, Chaptagai cited TE(æ)A,ea. (which I read as a "per TE(æ)A,ea." vote) and had participated extensively in the BEFORE discussion which hasn't even been archived yet. It's not fair to discount their vote as "no rationale." PhotogenicScientist (talk) 20:25, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

I looked over the other discussions, but I limited the actual counting to what was in the RfC itself. I agree it can be a little subjective in whether mentioning someone counts as a "per" !vote, so like I said, I wouldn't object if someone found the actual !votes to be one or two different from my count. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 20:54, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

ok... so the vote count might be a little fuzzy.

What do you have to say to further discounting votes that flatly contradict established policy - like applying WP:SIGCOV to a question of verifiability (when it's a notability test, for making a standalone article on a topic), or simply claiming inserting would fail WP:NPOV without seriously engaging in the substance of discussion on why. I feel that one can't simply cite a policy to give their !vote weight, and that such !votes should be weighted on the merits of how closely that policy applies - especially if such policy contradictions were noted by other discussion participants. PhotogenicScientist (talk) 21:07, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

I say that a different interpretation isn't necessary wrong, or at least not so egregiously wrong in this case that the !voters should be chastised or ignored. The point of the RfC was to determine which policies applied, and they argued it was those policies. Others disagreed. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 21:21, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure that sits quite right with me... that an editor can obstinately cite policy in a way that doesn't really apply, yet in the end their !vote (which, in the absence of a policy-based prohibition on content, is starting to feel an awful lot more like a vote) carries the same weight as one more closely aligned to policy? PhotogenicScientist (talk) 21:30, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

They don't apply, in your opinion. You're welcome to disagree with their rationales, but that's the point of the RfC. It's still relevant, and that's the argument they put forward. You disagreed with it. That's part of the process. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 21:53, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Huh. And so it is. "If the discussion shows that some people think one policy is controlling, and some another, the closer is expected to close by judging which view has the predominant number of responsible Wikipedians supporting it." When it comes down to it, RFCs are really just a vote. A vote of responsible people, sure. But a vote nonetheless.

That's a disappointing conclusion, considering how much I see WP:NOTVOTE cited around the site... but I suppose that's how it is. PhotogenicScientist (talk) 22:09, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 1991 Kiribati presidential election

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Your GA nomination of 1991 Kiribati presidential election

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2001 article

I like what you did with the 2001 article; can you also do the same for 2020, my year of birth? Thanks, Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 11:11, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

@Wolverine XI So... you're four years old? BorgQueen (talk) 11:26, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

I don't know how to act my age because I've never been this age before. And to answer your question, yes, I am four. Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 12:46, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! I'd love to get more articles about years fleshed out, and I've been making slow progress on it. But there's just so much to go through for each year! Thebiguglyalien (talk) 16:45, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

I understand, but 2020 is one of the worst years in human history, so I was hoping for that article to be improved to GA-status. No matter how long that will take, I'm sure the end result will be great! Can't wait to see what you have in store for year articles in general. Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 03:49, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

2020 is one of the worst years in human history, [...] That's not true. The Black Death era was much worse. BorgQueen (talk) 04:11, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

There's also the question of what sources would be used, because there are three series that have been crucial and they might not help here. By far the most useful source, Britannica Year in Review, was retired in 2018. There's a Time yearbook for 2020, but I can only see the preview and it's unclear how much information it has in a global context (would be great for 2020 in the United States though). Presumably there's an Annual Register for 2020, but I can't find anything about it. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 04:37, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Maybe 2020 is too recent. How about working on older years before moving to more recent ones? That seems like the best solution, as far as access to useful sources is concerned. Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 16:29, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Maria Stromberger

I've updated her ID photo image on Commons to a more natural looking one, with less contrast and saturation. Hope you like it better. BorgQueen (talk) 12:48, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! This one looks much better. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 16:42, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Melania Trump

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Women in Green's October 2024 edit-a-thon

Hello Thebiguglyalien:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2024!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2024, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

We hope to see you there!

Grnrchst (talk) 10:25, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Booby Island (Saint Kitts and Nevis)

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Your GA nomination of Ieremia Tabai

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Your GA nomination of Literature of Botswana

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Your GA nomination of Booby Island (Saint Kitts and Nevis)

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Sorry what, it's named Booby island for pelicans instead of an actual Booby species?? CMD (talk) 01:24, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

I know! I felt betrayed! Thebiguglyalien (talk) 01:39, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

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A Bronze Belt-buckle for you!

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... sawyer * he/they * talk 19:09, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Don't ping me

Don't ping me back into the discussion. I do not want to participate as it has been made clear that my participation is not appreciated.Nigel Ish (talk) 14:45, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

(talk page jaguar) Having read that discussion, I want to make it clear that that is only your interpretation of events: everyone else has assumed good faith in you, and frankly this interpretation on your part is if anything a sign that you are not doing likewise. If you were to take people at their word, there wouldn't be a problem here. Remsense ‥ 论 14:48, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

September 2024 NPP backlog drive – Points award

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DYK for Booby Island (Saint Kitts and Nevis)

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Promotion of Edith Roosevelt

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story · music · places

Congratulations on the new FAC and appearance soon, but today we thank you for Iron Man, introduced: "When engineering genius Tony Stark was kidnapped and forced to build a weapon, he turned the tables on his kidnappers by designing a powered suit of armor and fighting his way out. With this new armor, he pledged to fight evil as the superhero Iron Man! First created by Marvel Comics in 1963, Iron Man has since become one of the company's most popular characters, in no small part because of his central role in Marvel's films. In the 60 years since Iron Man was first created, the character has appeared in countless comic book stories and other media, commenting on issues like Cold War politics, alcoholism, and technological progress."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:29, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you!

Thanks for the close, and for the advice on too much PEPPER DN (talk) 01:29, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Graph close

I don't care enough to challenge the close, but I wanted to a) thank you for closing it b) point out I don't think there's a consensus. There's no real policy compelling policy argument to include and MOS:USEPROSE should apply. Many of the exclude votes touched on the confusing nature of the graph and how prose would be better. That wasn't mentioned in your summary and those arguments should have received more weight than the simple "I want it" votes that ignored the issues with the graph. Thanks for pointing out the bludgeoning issues that are inherent with articles like that, but I feel you've missed the mark on this one. Thanks for your time. Nemov (talk) 03:19, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

MOS:USEPROSE is unrelated to image use. It's about not overusing lists. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 03:22, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

It's not just an image. It's a graph timeline. Which falls into WP:LISTTYPES, a timeline is a graphical representation of a chronological sequence of events. Nemov (talk) 03:28, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Wondering on your opinion

When I was getting into reviewing GANs my main activity for a while was reading the reviews of GANs as they passed/failed. I learnt a lot from the process, in particular the practice of editors performing an independent search for sources when they suspected a failure of 3a, but also the habit of separating reviewing the criteria from suggestions and what a spot check could look like. I saw your comment on WT:GAN about your how to review guide gathering dust and was curious how feasible/ideal you thought integrating exemplar reviews would be. Perhaps in a gamified way, "reviewing the reviews" to see what they're missing. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 08:28, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

This is something that the community has endorsed (Wikipedia talk:Good Article proposal drive 2023#Proposal 4: Proposed model reviews and Wikipedia:Exceptional reviews), but actually deciding on how to find the reviews has not worked. I've also considered adding some review examples to the reviewing guide, but I encountered the same problem where there are so many different ways to approach a review and so many different circumstances that it's hard to define what a model example is. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 15:22, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

I read that a while ago and have apparently forgotten, thankyou for the links. I might just start collating reviews I read that I appreciate on my UP and see if anything emerges. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 09:25, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

You interested?

I have a couple of GA nominations up for Mongol women right now; I remember you reviewed Oghul Qaimish, also for a WP:WIG drive, a few months back. Would you be interested in reviewing? (I wouldn't normally ask, but the WP:CUP is nearing its close). ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:10, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

I'll take a look soon, but no promises unless there's one that can fill a slot in User:Thebiguglyalien/Articles per country (where Oghul Qaimish has taken the slot for the Mongol Empire). Thebiguglyalien (talk) 15:25, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Normal Mongolia not an option? Pity, but no worries. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:45, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

It's a bit tenuous ... but I see you list Hong Kong and Macau as subdivisions of China. Why not list the autonomous regions as well? Tibet, Inner Mongolia, Guangxi, and Xinjiang. Xinjiang is where the Uyghurs live. Al-Altan was a queen of the Uyghurs. You see? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:53, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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Centre-right politics

The centre-right commonly supports ideas such as [[small government]], [[law and order (politics)|law and order]], [[freedom of religion]], and strong [[national security]]. It has historically stood in opposition to [[radical politics]], [[redistributive policies]], [[multiculturalism]], [[immigration]], and [[LGBT]] acceptance. Economically, the centre-right supports [[free market]]s and the [[social market economy]], with [[market liberalism]] and [[neoliberalism]] being common centre-right economic positions. It typically seeks to preserve the cultural and socioeconomic ''[[status quo]]'' and believes that changes should be [[gradualism|implemented gradually]].

Where is the link there??? Johnymin (talk) 00:23, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

In the Right wing wiki there's nothong about lgbt or immigration, why if the centre right that is more moderate has to have that clause. And why you don't search abput left wing homophobia. Ypu are only trying to impose your opinion. If there's information about democratic politicians in the USA opposing LGBT rights, or social democrats and socialists with homophobe trends, I acept what you're saying, but there's not. It's only a clause traying to show the centre right people as the devil. Totally biased. Johnymin (talk) 02:47, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

The sources that you are listimg are personal opinions, they are only seeing one side, ask those people what they know about left wing homophobia. LGBT acceptance is not an ideological issue, stop trying to show the right as the devil, and the left as the angels, because the sources that you are saying are only trying to criticize one side, and not to improve the left amd the mistakes they have. Homophobes and transphobes and traditional people are both rightwingers and leftwingers. The wiki has to be independent, not left wing biased. Johnymin (talk) 02:55, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

listing* Johnymin (talk) 02:55, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Johnymin you've just pinged me four times. This discussion should be taking place at Talk:Centre-right politics. Please do not leave any further messages on my user talk page. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 02:57, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm sayimg that I respct your postion but changed the part that says Right wing opposed to a great part. The same part on social issues says that the centre right have taken other positions and evolved, read it. Bye Johnymin (talk) 03:13, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

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ACCT, etc

Excellent point, and well made. I've often thought whenever the cry of "we need more admins" goes up that quality rather than quantity might be a useful watchword. There's no point in just adding more of the same. Of course, it should theoretically be possible to have both, but... SerialNumber54129 17:23, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Your comment at RFA

Please withdraw that comment. I have not "kicked" any dogs, but your wording accuses me of doing that very thing. I get that we disagree on the value that Graham87 brings to the project; that's fine. Your perspective is likely to prevail. On the other hand, berating those with whom you disagree is exactly the behaviour on the part of the candidate with which you take issue.

I was asked why I don't often participate at RFA a while ago. You are why, or at least the type of comment you made to me is why. The reason RFA is failing is exactly these kinds of comments, whether they are directed to opposers or supporters. None of you had any reason at all to comment in any way about my vote. You were just doing it to be nasty. It does not reflect well on any of you as editors, and seriously makes me wonder how you behave with newbies, yourselves. (No, I'm not going to go digging through your contributions.) You are obviously a talented editor. We both know you don't have any reason to be uncivil toward me. My vote wasn't even worth a comment, and you know it.

I hope you will take on board that newbies are far more likely to see the way you treat others than they will how any given admin treats others. You're much more prolific than am I (yes, most of my work is in areas away from content), and you encounter many more people in a typical editing day. I hope that you will consider why you consider civility so important, and why it is more beneficial to you, and to the project, that you model the behaviour you expect of fellow Wikipedians. Risker (talk) 06:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm really not sure how I'm supposed to respond to this. You cast your vote to overlook one of the most vile, repulsive patterns of behavior ever directed toward newbies on this site by an admin. You chose to stand by an admin who routinely blocks newbies and tells them they're not welcome here because they're still learning the Manual of Style. You threw your support toward an admin who once found a newbie, blocked them, rolled back their hundreds of edits, called them incompetent, removed talk page access, and removed email access because they were copyediting too quickly and he got a bad vibe. And then hardly a few hours later, you have the nerve to leave a three-paragraph lecture on my talk page about setting a good example for newbies because I used a common analogy to refer to said behavior. You were the scolder in this scenario, by the way, not the kicker. Otherwise the analogy doesn't make sense. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 15:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Center-right politics

Right-wing politics has historically opposed social acceptance of lesbian, gay, and bisexual people, but the European centre-right has come to support protections on the basis of sexual orientation.[54] Some centre-right groups have taken the position that gay marriage and adoption by gay couples are an extension of the traditional nuclear family.[55] Such support has not been widely extended to transgender people.[56]

This is below. This is saying that Center right accepted gay people, and it's based on the authors You are citing Johnymin (talk) 20:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

As I said above, please discuss this at Talk:Centre-right politics, not here. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 21:42, 20 November 2024 (UTC)