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body composition wikipedia definition webpage

The following appears on your "body composition" webpage Body composition (particularly body fat percentage) can be measured in several ways. The most common method is by shoving a tube up your ass and then licking it clean.

Can you rectify that entry? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.210.11.92 (talk) 04:17, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for reporting this. I have reverted the vandalism which was added 20 minutes ago. You are also welcome to revert vandalism yourself. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:25, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Rename Article for Correction

Kaden Inc

The name of the company referenced in this article should be "Kadant_Inc", not Kaden.

I can perform the edits in-article, however the page name and address need to be corrected.

All of the links are to the correct company, and the information is mostly correct.

Thanks. SGCam8 (talk) 05:34, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

The article is now at Kadant. Dismas|^(talk) 06:07, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Bandpage allowed?

Hi Wikipedia,

It is not allowed to commercialize yourself on Wikipedia, but a lot of bands are on Wikipedia. At what time is it possible to put yourself/ or let somebody else put you on Wikipedia. What should you've allready accomplished? We are a pretty new band, with a release album, site, facebook and so on... Is it possible to make a Wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wearecuda (talk • contribs) 10:38, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello! Please start by taking the time to read this WP:BAND and this WP:PLAINANDSIMPLECOI. In summary, it may be possible to make an article about your band, but it´s not super-easy, if your aim is an article that won´t get deleted in a few minutes. Good luck! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:57, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

For some reason, I was really annoyed this particular time, but you're not making a "wiki" or even a "Wikipedia". It's an article. More to the point, you could also request an article, and if your band is notable enough, someone may create it for you. - Purplewowies (talk) 18:37, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Fixing a goof in Harvard citation

Hi, so I'm doing some edits to Tel Kabri, and I'm citing some field reports. Unfortunately, I forgot that the individual chapters of some of the reports are meant to be cited by the chapter author's name. (Long week...) I want to change around the references so that I cite the chapter author's name and then also reflect the fact that their work is in what's basically a book of collected articles. I'm using sfnp Harvard footnoting. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | ^{Say Shalom!} 6 Tevet 5774 10:38, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

It appears to me that you want what's covered in "Citing a chapter in a book with different authors for different chapters and an editor" under Template:Cite book#Examples. Deor (talk) 18:47, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

It appears to me that you would be correct in your assumption and therefore a good judge of such things, my good Deor. Thank you. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | ^{Say Shalom!} 6 Tevet 5774 19:23, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Batla House encounter case

Hi,

In reference to so many instances where Wikipedia is losing its credibility and the truth is being compromised by the users, I would like to request the people associated with that please try to change the way it works.

People are using this for their own benefits at the cost of slandering others.

Foe example, see information on Batla House Encounter at the url Batla House encounter case. It says in Citation Number 25 -

Batla house residents were happy that Shahzad was awarded life imprisonment; and sister of Shahzad cried that her brother was falsely implicated and vowed to fight for the justice by appealing in the supreme court.

and falsely give reference of the article published on this url - http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/batla-house-case-shehzad-falsely-implicated-will-move-sc-says-sister/article1-1101023.aspx however there is no mention in this article that Batla house residents were happy that Shahzad was awarded life imprisonment rather it is clear from the article that the residents were dissatisfied with the verdict and shown solidarity with the accused.

So appalling!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.90.211.94 (talk) 14:12, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

A better place to bring this up might be the talk page for the article at Talk:Batla House encounter case. RJFJR (talk) 15:26, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

But I've removed the unsourced claim. You could have done that yourself. Rojomoke (talk) 15:35, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

William Schallert

Play in one episode of one step beyond title was Epilogue — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.49.3.29 (talk) 18:46, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

According to imdb, he was actually in two episodes of Alcoa Presents: One Step Beyond. However the fimography list on the William Schallert page is only a partial one, listing his more noteworthy credits. In my opinion, it's probably already too long. Rojomoke (talk) 19:37, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

How do I make an article in userspace?

I've seen many people refer to a "userspace draft". Apparently this is where you can work on an article before publishing it to Wikipedia. So, how do I go about doing this? Thanks. Andrea McGahn (talk) 20:52, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:User pages#User pages and user space.--ukexpat (talk) 21:22, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Changes to a page

Dear Wikipedia, I have page pertaining to me and I wondered how I can make it more up to date and expand on some detailes within. i did not create the page and i am not sure who did. Many thanks, James Ouchterlony (James Angus Heathcote Ouchterlony - full name) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.139.48.25 (talk) 21:59, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for checking. Some guidance for you can be found in our conflict of interest pages and if there is anything that urgently needs correcting: Wikipedia:AUTOBIO#Problems_in_an_article_about_you. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 23:10, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

help!

I was removed from okcupid and want my money back. I want you to credit my credit card or face legal action. Thank you. [contact info redacted]. M.Pacelli — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.119.154.15 (talk) 22:42, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:52, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Re-name a page to one of its re-direct

I would like to move Diplomas de Español como Lengua Extranjera to DELE, as the latter is what it is commonly called among English speakers. However, I can't finish the move, as DELE is a re-direct page of Diplomas de Español como Lengua Extranjera. I think this is not a controversial move, and thus I find it unsuitable to request a move at Wikipedia:Requested moves. So what should I do? Salt (talk) 23:21, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

That page contains this section: Wikipedia:Requested_moves#Requesting_technical_moves. Scroll down near the bottom of that section where you see: "Alternatively, if the only obstacle to a technical move is another page in the way..." That is what you need. Dismas|^(talk) 23:32, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

But the page name has been constant since the 2007 creation, wikidata:Q1117438 shows it's used by most other languages, and while different articles at Dele and DELE are allowed, it may cause confusion. I think it deserves a requested move discussion. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:47, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. Originally I wasn't aware that there exists Dele, and that's why I would like to make such move. I agree that this move is not technical and is worth discussing.

But then I have another question. I would like to check the popularity of the terms "Diplomas de Español como Lengua Extranjera" and "DELE" among English users in google in order to justify my requested move, but after trying for so long, I don't know how check it. Can anyone help? Salt (talk) 06:17, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Google cannot make case sensitive searches as far as I know. You get many irrelevant hits on "dele" instead of DELE. Some search engines like http://casesensitivesearch.com/ may perform case sensitive searches but are otherwise poor compared to Google. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:06, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Blacklisted websites

Dear editors: While trying to add online sources to articles, I occasionally come across one that is blacklisted. For example, www.examiner.com often has interesting articles, but can't be used. Is there any record of the reasons for blacklisting of specific websites? —Anne Delong (talk) 23:31, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

See MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist for the local (English Wikipedia) list, and Meta:Talk:Spam blacklist for the global Wikimedia list. See also Wikipedia:Spam blacklist for general information. An archive search shows examiner.com has been discussed many times. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:53, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

By the way, note that Examiner's not a reliable source; that's presumably the reason it's been blacklisted, since otherwise it gets tons and tons of citations that shouldn't be added. Nyttend (talk) 00:51, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Sources for wikipedia articles must have a reputation for fact checking, accuracy, editorial oversight, and generally neutral point of view. Of the list of things that the Examiner has a reputation for, "interesting" may be one, but fact checking and accuracy and appropriate NPOV certainly are not on that list. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:06, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Not quite. TRPoD is incorrect about NPOV. WP:RS the very page linked to above, says:

"Wikipedia articles are required to present a neutral point of view. However, reliable sources are not required to be neutral, unbiased, or objective. Sometimes non-neutral sources are good sources for supporting information about the different viewpoints held on a subject."

However, a source should in most cases have a good reputation for fact-checking (unless it is being cited for its own POV or statements), and blacklisted sources generally do not fulfill this. DES ^(talk) 02:32, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, there are a lot of "news" sources that aren't blocked and seem to be 90% press releases. Maybe the difference is that they are more obvious. —Anne Delong (talk) 19:41, 10 December 2013 (UTC)