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October 21

bolekaja on Dele Jegede

I just edited the file on Dele Jegede and clicked the "save" button. I wonder how long this has to take before I know the status of my edits.

Thanks Bolekaja — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bolekaja (talk • contribs) 02:25, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia has no article on Dele Jegede. What file were you editing? AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:30, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

@Bolekaja: @AndyTheGrump: The user needs to check his talk page. Everything has been explained in great detail there, and in the last TWO Help Desk requests he made.[1][2]. User should be editing here until he gets it up to snuff. (Starting to wonder if April Fools' has come a little early...) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:49, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

@Bolekaja: - you have found your way here three times to ask a question. You have demonstrated that you can edit a page, add a section header, and save a page using an edit summary. If you don't read, or simply ignore, your talk page messages and the responses you receive here at the HelpDesk, I'm afraid I don't see how we can help you. - Karenjc (talk) 07:13, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Start a new entry

I would like to start a new entry for my professor who teaches at Stanford in the Graduate School of Education. She is already mentioned in some other entries on Wikipedia, but she is a famous author and researcher and should have her own entry. How do I start a entry?

Honestly I don't even get how to get help on Wikipedia... how to use these talk pages. I have written an article on Jo Boaler and I would like to begin to post the article, but the citations are confusing--both the requirements and how to actually do it. I thought the guidelines said that I had to add citations for every detail that I had in my article, but when I look at other Wikipedia articles, I notice that they just put a link to a related part of the article. FOr instance if I say that Jo Boaler is a professor in the Stanford Graduate School of Education... by the look of some articles, I just add a link to the SGSE. According to my interpretation of the Wikipedia guidelines, I should actually find some sort on citation on the internet that specifically shows that she is actually a professor at the SGSE. Which is it? Plus, I have already written the article in what I think is an acceptable format for Wikipedia, and I have what I think are the links required, but I am very confused about how to input the citations. Felicia Darling 01:31, 23 October 2013 (UTC) Felicia Darling 01:33, 23 October 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fleadarling (talk • contribs)

Thanks,

Felicia Darling

Felicia Darling 03:07, 21 October 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fleadarling (talk • contribs)

What is your professor's name? -- Jreferee (talk) 03:32, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Her name is Dr. Jo Boaler.[3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fleadarling (talk • contribs) 04:20, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Looks like there may be enough to write a biography on her. I'll post more on your talk page. -- Jreferee (talk) 06:16, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Watchlist filtering of user talk pages

I don't really want to unfollow a lot of the past editors I've talked with. When going through my watchlist now the User talk edits are 80 to 90% of the list and it hinders my page patrolling. Is there a way to filter the watchlist removing talk page edits? Alatari (talk) 06:37, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

At the top of Special:Watchlist is a "Watchlist options" box. If you select "User talk" in the "Namespace" list, tick "Invert selection", and then click "Go", the list will show everything except edits to user talk pages. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:02, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

It's not really a great solution but at the top of your watchlist you can pull down the Namespace menu and choose "Article". That will weed out talk pages. Once you reload the watchlist though, it goes back to the default of "All" namespaces. Dismas|^(talk) 07:01, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Both of these are great tricks and helped me immensly tonight. There were at least 30% more articles in my 7 day list (article) filtered that were truncated on the (All) filter. I appreciate the help. Thankyou! Alatari (talk) 08:42, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Asking for article expansion

I have created a stub page Hans Bauer (semitist) about a person mentioned in Wikipedia, but did not found many personal details, like birth or death date and place. Where should I ask for article's expansion? --CiaPan (talk) 06:41, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

He was active in the 1930s, so it's not likely that online news databases post 1960s will have much on him. Google Books seems to have information on him. You also can try Google News Archive Search. As for help developing the article, some of the WikiProjects listed at the top of Talk:Semitic people might be able to help. -- Jreferee (talk) 07:23, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

from Olga Papkovitch, creator of PopImpressKA

Dear Wikipedia, i am writing to you because my pages has been blocked and I try to understand how to do the wikipedia entry right Please let me know how to reinstate the page "PopImpressKA" my e-mail is : <retracted> Thank you, Olga

Extended content

I am creator of a new word; PopImpressKA and Creator of PopImpressKA Journal, i m an artist and try to bring positive message to people all over the world: PopImpressKA Means: PopImpressKA is a new form of 21st Century Art, inspired by Artist Olga Papkovitch. PopImpressKA represents a combination of three words: Pop for Images that appear three-dimensional, impressionism for her favorite art form and the word Popka which is parrot in Russian for its Vibrant and deep colors. Papkovitch is recognized as a rising Russian-American focused in the art of Impressionism and is based in New York City. She has been exhibited nationally and Internationally and her work has been featured in many private and public collections. While growing up in St. Petersburg, Russia, Olga was introduced to a broad range of visual arts including the Ancient, Medieval and Western European Culture. From 12 till 19 years of age, Olga studied at The State Hermitage Museum of Art in the heart of St. Petersburg, Russia. At Nineteen, Olga relocated to Santa Barbara,California and became a student at Santa Barbara City College (SBCC). She engaged in pottery classes and decorative leather art, which allowed her to consider working with objects. After one year at SBCC, she moved to Lake Tahoe and graduated from Sierra Nevada College. It was there that Olga developed a free spirit for art and an understanding that anything in life can be created in order to widen your own success and fulfillment. In 1998, she moved to Gotham (NYC) and enrolled in The Art Student League of New York. “Through My Art I want people to feel good and get in touch with their inner self, help each other and be compassionate, create love and understanding, inspire each other to do good”, Olga www.olgapopartworld.com and www.popimpresskajournal.org PopImpressKA Journal – Popular Impressive Kaleidoscope WELCOME to PopImpressKA Journal PopImpressKA is a new form of 21st Century Art, inspired by Artist Olga Papkovitch. PopImpressKA represents a combination of three words: Pop for Images that appear three-dimensional, impressionism for her favorite art form and the word Popka which is parrot in Russian for its Vibrant and deep colors. PopImpressKA : ” genius is a one shot created entity, can be done by anyone who is truly connected to his/her inner voice, that does not react towards any competition “ PopImpressKA Journal is a collaboration of various stories and images of people from all over the world. CELEBRATION OF LIFE AND NATURE. Read articles about charities, art, movies, fashion, new discoveries, new adventures, new enterprises, famous and influential people. “Through PopImpressKA Journal we want people to feel good and get in touch with their inner self, help each other and be compassionate, create love and understanding, inspire each other to do good” PopImpressKA PopImpressKA Brand: Canvas is crafted in a form of a quilt with the combination of various images of paintings put together on canvas from PopImpressKA Art Collection. PopImpressKA Art Canvas collaborating with various fashion clothing designers, jewelry designers and bag designers to create unique feeling. Please let me know how to reinstate the page "PopImpressKA" my e-mail is : <retracted> Thank you, Olga

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.108.201.217 (talk) 07:37, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

There are four chief processes under which articles in the mainspace are deleted:

• 1. Speedy deletion
• 2. Proposed deletion (prod)
• 3. Proposed deletion of articles on living persons (sticky prod); and
• 4. Articles for deletion (AfD).

To learn about typical reasons articles are deleted, see Wikipedia:Why was the page I created deleted? To find out why the particular article you posted was deleted, go to the deletion log and type into the search field marked "Title" the exact name of the article, mindful of the original capitalization, spelling and spacing. The deletion log entry will show when the article was deleted, by which administrator, and typically contain a deletion summary listing the reason for deletion. If you wish to contest this deletion, please contact the administrator first on his or her talk page and, depending on the circumstances, politely explain why you think the article should be restored, or why a copy should be provided to you so you can address the reason for deletion before reposting the article. If after that the article remains deleted and you still wish to contest it, you have the option of listing the article at Wikipedia:Deletion review, but articles are normally only restored if the deletion was clearly improper. --Mdann52talk to me! 07:41, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

OK, after a bit of digging around I found that PopImpressKA (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has recently been blocked with {{spamusernameblock}} after posting the text in the box above to user:PopImpressKA. Olga, please don't write about yourself/your art, because you have a major conflict of interest in doing so. Please let someone else do it as and when you / your art reaches the level of notability where it merits an article. For that to happen, you/it will need good coverage in independent reliable sources - a quick Google search for "PopImpressKA" brings up mainly your own pages, Facebook, etc which isn't good enough to support an article. Bencherlite^Talk 10:24, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Mary Elizabeth Hawker (1848 - 1908) - Lanoe Falconer

I am proposing to put some flesh on your stub article about this lady, but text will not be ready for a week or so. Can you advise, please, on the mechanism for providing one or more pictures of her? My Wikipedia user name is ornektep and you are aware of my email address. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.45.58 (talk) 08:55, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

@Ornektep:, @86.160.45.58: - Help:Images and other uploaded files provides some information. Editors typically upload an image to Wikimedia Commons and then link to that image from the Wikipedia article. -- Jreferee (talk) 14:26, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Bio-Graph

I Would like to request how could i write bio-graph, because i had tried for few times but not approved and every time it was deleted by other user, so can you please advise me on this. Thanks in advance.

Best Regards Sudhir Raj. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.59.83.42 (talk) 09:08, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

As explained here and here, creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged, and you do not appear to meet our guidelines for inclusion of articles about people. ʍw 11:19, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia biography articles typically are built from Wikipedia reliable sources that have written about the covered person due to that person standing out for some reason. The sources used in the deleted Sudhir Raj article about Sudhir Raj Singh Rathor do not appear to be Wikipedia reliable sources and the posted article about the Multimedia & Animation Engineer Sudhir Raj contains information that would appear in a resume, for which Wikipedia has Wikipedia:Notresume. Since the information available on Sudhir Raj only allows for creating an article about a real person, which cannot indicate the importance or significance of the person, the article continues to be deleted under WP:A7. -- Jreferee (talk) 14:12, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Significance of article.

Hi. I would like to ask about the significance level of articles about small villages such as this one. Are they significant enough to be on Wikipedia? Hz. tiang 10:07, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

As there is no article Kadmond and as far as I can see, there never has been, it is difficult to comment. Was there, perhaps, a spelling mistake in the village name? Arjayay (talk) 10:17, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

As discussed here a couple of times recently (see here for example), all settlements are considered inherently notable. However, a quick Google search doesn't find any evidence of a place called Kadmond anywhere. Any article would have to cite reliable sources confirming its existence. (talk) 10:21, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Oops, I spelled it wrongly. It should be Kamond. Hz. tiang 10:23, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Anyway, there appears to be no references, so is still significant? Hz. tiang 10:25, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

As Rojomoke said "all settlements are considered inherently notable". Furthermore, this village has a reasonable size article on the Hungarian Wikipedia. Arjayay (talk) 10:35, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for your help! Hz. tiang 10:39, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Hallo i wanto be on your page! wo work wery hard and fore free

Long tirade by user who doesn't know difference between Wikipedia and Al Gore
<copyvio removed> Best regards Kenneth — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kenneth Karlsson (talk • contribs) 11:08, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. - This is not Al Gore, this is an encyclopaedia called Wikipedia - David Biddulph (talk) 11:14, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Campden Media

Hello,

From tomorrow my company won’t be Campden Media anymore.

I am trying to edit the company name on your listing but I can’t do it. I can edit the copy but not the actual name.

Could you please help?

Thanks

Beatriz — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.221.52.106 (talk) 12:40, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi there. In order to remane a page, you need to move it. As you do not have an autoconfirmed account, you are unable to move it. However, if you let us know what it should be called, someone will happily move it for you. --Mdann52talk to me! 12:46, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Since you say it is "your company" that you are writing about, please read our guideline on conflict of interest. In general you should not be editing articles on yourself, your company, or anything else with which you have a close affiliation. Making clearly factual corrections, particularly if you provide a source, is usually OK. But anythign beyond that you should post to the talk page and see if others will edit the article on your behalf, via {{edit request}}. DES ^(talk) 13:25, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

On looking it over, Cogora is unreferenced, highly promotional in tone, and a quick Google search reveals no reliable sources with with to firm up or rewrite the article. I have, accordingly, proposed its deletion. DES ^(talk) 13:34, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Speedily deleted as spam.--ukexpat (talk) 17:39, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Search tips for editors

The more I edit the dimmer my memory gets, or at least that’s how it feels sometimes. I have not yet figured out how make efficient use of the Search box.

For example I created a category to collect newspapers that have comments enabled, but I don’t remember what I named this category and I don’t remember when I created it. This category was deleted through a wp:CFD a while ago and I would like to look at the deletion discussion, but have no clue how to find it.

Will anyone here share their Search tips with others? Thanks in advance, XOttawahitech (talk) 15:58, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

I don't know how to find that using the search box, but User talk:Ottawahitech/Archive 1 has some CFD notification messages for likely-looking categories. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:18, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

... and perhaps User talk:Ottawahitech/Archive 1#Category:Commenting available on articles online might be a likely one? - David Biddulph (talk) 16:42, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Incorrectly titled article and a new correct one

Can you please delete the following article (Manx Military and Aviation Museum) as it is titled incorrectly and not submitted by a member of the museum. This article (Manx Aviation and Military Museum) will be the current one and will be moderated on a regular basis by myself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChrisIOMUK (talk • contribs) 16:26, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Please start by read Wikipedia's policy on conflict of interest. We do not want, or need, anyone’s permission to create an article about any subject. We do not want articles to be written by someone closely connected with a subject, as it is almost impossible for them to write from a neutral point of view. This is exemplified by some of the text you wrote earlier today, which has already been deleted by User: Qwertyus for being unsuitable in tone.

Furthermore, you will not be “moderating” the article, as you have no more right, (indeed, given your conflict of interest you have significantly less right) to control the page content, which may be critical of the museum, than any other editor. If you wish to suggest changes to the article, please suggest them on the article's talk page and an impartial editor will consider whether they should be incorporated - although this will not be immediate.

The only thing I can agree with you on is that the original article is incorrectly titled. This will probably not be deleted, but turned into a redirect to the correctly titled article. Arjayay (talk) 17:31, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

I can only concur with the statements of the other editors. I've done what I could to clean up the mess, as the proud husband of a Manxwoman (and possibly the only Wikipedia admin who's been to the Jurby Parish churchyard and mourned over the patriotic young aviators of Poland, Australia, Canada and other Allied countries who lie buried there so far from home). --Orange Mike | Talk 17:49, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

The redirect was made by another user, before I could get round to doing it. Arjayay (talk) 17:48, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Can't get pdf file to link properly

In the article on William Montagu, 2nd Baron Montagu, I have a citation to a pdf file of a PhD thesis which I downloaded from the internet this morning [4]. However the url doesn't work now that I've added it as a citation in the article. Any help with this would be much appreciated. NinaGreen (talk) 16:30, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

After a little searching, I think the actual URL is https://qmro.qmul.ac.uk/jspui/bitstream/123456789/1549/1/STURMANBarkingAbbey1961.pdf - I suspect that your browser, PDF program, or something has "helpfully" shortened it for you. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:36, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I tried pasting that URL in, but it still doesn't work. I've also now downloaded another PhD thesis which I've tried to cite in the same article, and that URL doesn't work either [ora.ox.ac.uk/objects/uuid%3A30404220-43bf.../ATTACHMENT1]. Further help with both URLS would be much appreciated as these are the only RS citations I've been able to find for the information I'm citing them for. NinaGreen (talk) 17:07, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks so much. The URL to the Sturman citation now works perfectly. Can anything be done to fix the other one, i.e. ora.ox.ac.uk/objects/uuid:30404220-43bf.../ATTACHMENT1? If it's any help, here's the bibliographical information: Burls, Robin J., Society, Economy and Lordship in Devon in the Age of the First Courtenay Earls, c.1297-1377, PhD thesis, University of Oxford, 2002. NinaGreen (talk) 18:41, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

(e/c) (Sorry for the delay; the oven timer told me dinner was ready...)

I've fixed the "Sturman" reference. You had somehow copied in some control characters at the end of the URL. What browser are you using? In Firefox, I can right click on the link at the bottom of https://qmro.qmul.ac.uk/jspui/handle/123456789/1549 and select "Copy link location" to copy+paste an accurate copy of the URL.

When I Google the second title, Google displays the shortened, useless, URL, but if I follow the link I get to http://ora.ox.ac.uk/objects/uuid%3A30404220-43bf-41b7-b70a-f18624594c08/datastreams/ATTACHMENT1 - does that link work for you? -- John of Reading (talk) 18:47, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that worked. Thanks so much! NinaGreen (talk) 20:42, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

I would like to know the difference between English and Francais Wikipedia versions because:

Because as a new reader/customer, I noticed that the Subliminal Stimuli Wikipedia page in English is very different from-- when I press the Francais under languages on the left of the screen, I get, Message Subliminal and it is a very different page content than the English version/description of the topic. I don't speak/read Francais (I'm assuming that's French) but I know enough to know that the difference is significant and important. Is the Francais Wikipedia totally different than the English (USA) version I've been reading? I thought I'd just download some French to English translation software so I can read the entire page. Since the content/approach of the subject is so different between languages, does Wikipedia have the Francais version already translated in English somewhere? Or, do I have to just run the page(s) myself through translation computer-ware. If so, does Wikipedia have a suggestion of a ware application? I'm assuming that this particular topic-page is not the only topic-page that is very different in content, that's why I'm asking about an English (USA) translation of the Francais Wikipedia. Also, I want to let the people at Wikipedia to know that, as I stated in my first donation survey) Wikipedia has helped with letting me know what's out there (I suppose at least in the USA) so thanks..and also I wrote that I will donate more when I receive earnings that have not materialized in terms of final cash paycheck or any type of payment for my product and individualized service. A Firm is investigating fraud, abuse of power, lack of payment, class action lawsuit stuff for me (and thus of course in the grand picture them as well). When I do receive what I am clearly owed (in the million dollar range [serious], I will donate, which is more like paying for a subscription for your service/product in my opinion. Oh, also, I'm writing/referring to English/USA as opposed to English/England-Britain. Maybe the Wikipedia content from London is different from the content in Paris is different from the content in USA? This Question honestly asked by Kim Susan Foster.98.24.150.47 (talk) 18:55, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

The Wikipedias for different languages are completely independent. Sometimes an article in one language is translated into another, but in many cases articles are written separately from scratch. There is no rule governing this. Looie496 (talk) 18:59, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

• Other than the obvious language difference, each Wikipedia has a different set of rules and guidelines to which the content conforms. What we may accept on the English Wikipedia may not be accepted on the French version, or vice versa. One common rule that all Wikipedias follow is the need for citations, and this also causes differences in article content. Although English Wikipedia doesn't prohibit French-language sources being cited, most editors don't speak fluent enough French to find such a source in the first place, or will be using search engines which limit results to English pages anyway. Similarly, French Wikipedia editors may not be able to locate or comprehend the content of the sources we have used in the development of our article on a subject, so they won't use it. This can lead to different facts appearing, depending on the language the evidence is presented in. Say, for instance, we take an article from the French Wikipedia for which there is no English alternative. We get it translated, and place it on English Wikipedia. Despite starting with exactly the same facts, citations, and content, passing editors will change small parts every now and again. This process of content evolution, whether it be addition or removal of facts, or general cleanup, will occur on both Wikipedias separately. From there, each will find themselves naturally heading in a different direction, until they look nothing alike. The same thing happens with natural evolution; Octopoda have eyes, just as humans, but they work in a completely different way. They don't share an evolutionary history, and are literally two separate solutions to the same problem.  drewmunn  talk  19:28, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

• Please note that there is only one English Wikipedia, not separate American and British versions. The same goes for French, German, Russian, Tagalog, Swahili, etc. Wikipedia is divided by language, not country. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:16, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism by User:Chriv77?

User:Chriv77 has made a couple of dozen of small, unsourced, uncommented (and apparently incorrect) changes to dates and numbers (in various article in the last couple of weeks, including 12 today. "October 9" to "October 29" in William Aloisio, the monthly temperatures in Munich.

I’m unclear if I should report this directly at WP:AIV or not. Rwessel (talk) 19:28, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

I've left our friend a warning. If he still continues, reporting at AIV is definitely an option. Yintan  19:35, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

we want in

my husband and i are trying to make a diffeerance in the world iv had children iv sponcerd most of my life but i think its about time my husband and i did more then that we would like to contact someone who can tell us how to get to africa an help those who need it it would be great if you got back to us — Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgina daisley (talk • contribs) 23:43, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:45, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I suggest the Misc. Ref Desk for this Q. StuRat (talk) 23:47, 21 October 2013 (UTC)