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Coverage of Twitter events on Wikipedia?

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Is brief information regarding a major viral Twitter event covered by mainstream media sources allowed to be included on Wikipedia? If so, then I am going to add info regarding the Wagatha Christie fiasco to the Coleen Rooney article and I will count on you to support me if it gets removed again. If not, could I count on your support if my of my recent major edit got reverted? 70.95.44.93 (talk) 00:58, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The best place to ask would be the article talk page: Talk:Coleen Rooney. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:23, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Is your question perhaps related to this edit of 6 February? Both its wording and its summary seem to be making some point, and it was quickly reverted. Don't count on anyone to support the sarcasm or jocosity of any edit you might contemplate making. -- Hoary (talk) 02:17, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Are you implying that this edit would not have gotten removed if its wording and summary were more neutral and encyclopedic in tone? Or does Wikipedia not allow such content regardless? 70.95.44.93 (talk) 07:42, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If you want a substantive change, ask about it on the article's talk page (as GoingBatty has already suggested). -- Hoary (talk) 08:37, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no key... and my page not published so plz help me and the error problem so please solve this...

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User%3AAvinav_yadav — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avinav kumar yadav (talk • contribs) 06:57, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Avinav kumar yadav. I'm afraid that, like many people, you have misunderstood what Wikipedia is. It is an encyclopaedia: a resource that collects and summarises what reliable sources have published about notable subjects. It is not for promotion (which here means "telling the world about something"). If you are notable, (in the special sense that Wikipedia uses the word) then Wikipedia could have an article about you, if somebody decided to write one. You are very strongly discouraged from writing about yourself, because you are likely to find it difficult to write in a sufficiently neutral tone. If an article about you is written, it will not be your article, it will not necessarily say what you want it to say - your involvement in it will be limited to makeing suggestions for changes. Also, you have attempted to write your article on your user page - that is not what a user page is for: it is for introducing yourself to the Wikipedia community as a Wikipedia editor - that is why it is not indexed by search engines.
In short: please don't try to use Wikipedia for telling the world about yourself. --ColinFine (talk) 08:42, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thac Nation

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Matthew Afun better known on his stage name Thac Nation. is a Ghanaian high life hiplife dancehall reggea calipso and gospel singer is a CEO of Thac Nation music Group — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thac Nation (talk • contribs) 09:33, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please read ColinFine's comment in the section immediately above: it applies equally to you. -- Hoary (talk) 09:38, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Taylor Allderdice High School

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An editor is destroying this article. I worked for an hour to update all the references for the enrollment and other school date contained in the body and infobox. He immediately swooped in and not onlyt removed all of it, but then starting wiping out a lot of other long-standing content. I can see from the history of the article that he's done this previously. Please help. 2605:A000:FFC0:D8:515A:4C29:4397:85C (talk) 10:39, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please discuss your concerns on the article talk page or with the other editor directly; you need to stop edit warring. 331dot (talk) 10:47, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That's what the editor should have done before removing an enormous amount of content, including updated references to verify the data. You cannot reason with someone who makes massive changes all at once, as opposed to incremental ones, and in doing so leaves snarky edit summaries which do not address most of the content removed. His history shows he's been doing this in articles for a long time. 2605:A000:FFC0:D8:515A:4C29:4397:85C (talk) 10:52, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Any editor can 'challenge' (remove) content that they feel is unencyclopedic in any way. The other editor has done so and has provided reasonably detailed explanations in their edit summaries. Per WP:BRD if original (bold) (B) edits are reverted (R) then you start a discussion (D) with the reverting editor. What you should not do is 'edit-war' this can lead to the loss of editing privileges irrespective of the relative merits of the edits. The other editor involved is very experienced and I'm sure will be willing to discuss. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 11:02, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]


""* Marked as resolved as user is under a 48 hour block for edit warring. The conversation has been moved to the talk pages and I do see the warnings properly placed on the users talk page.

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There's a link in the infobox at Detroit-style pizza that is supposedly to a Cookbook entry, but no such entry appears to exist (and I don't think it should -- this is a very specific food item and any good recipe is likely a copyright issue, any non-copyvio probably not a traditional recipe). I can't figure out how to delete it -- it doesn't appear to show up for me either in VisEd or in Source. Can anyone figure out what I'm missing in the code? Thanks for any help! —valereee (talk) 14:59, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Add |no_recipes=false to the infobox template. See the template doc.
—Trappist the monk (talk) 15:05, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
As per Trappist. It's something pushed out by {{infobox food}}. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:06, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
|no_recipies= seems to control only metadata, not this link. The cookbook link defaults to the pagename, but can be overridden with |cookbook=. I set it to plain "Pizza" which does have a cookbook at Wikibooks. MB 15:15, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Umm, what? The request was to remove the unproductive link. |no_recipes= does that with this line in the template:
{{#if:{{{no_recipes|}}} <includeonly>|</includeonly> |{{Wikibooks-inline|short=yes|Special:Search|Cookbook: {{{cookbook|{{{name|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}}} }}
If you give the template |no_recipies=, then of course, the line in the template above does nothing; note the parameter name spelling difference.
—Trappist the monk (talk) 15:31, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you are indeed correct, I had a typo. So there are two options, link to the Pizza cookbook or remove the link entirely. MB 15:36, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, all, always something new to discover on WP! —valereee (talk) 16:41, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I would like to add name of Rao bahadur title holder to the page how do I do it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vilas Kalkar (talk • contribs) 16:05, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Vilas Kalkar: Looking at your edits in the history of the Rao Bahadur article, it appears there were several issues:
  1. You were adding the information in the wrong place in the article
  2. You were editing an article about your grandfather - see the Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide
  3. You did not provide any reliable sources
However, you did the right thing by asking for assistance at Talk:Rao Bahadur. I hope knowledgeable editors can help you there. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 16:50, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Writing an article in the site

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Hello,

Would you help me please: I need to create an article on this site, but I do not know where to start. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NkolanyaneK (talk • contribs) 20:50, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, NkolanyaneK. The advice I always give to new editors who want to plunge straight into the very very difficult task of creating a new article is to spend a few weeks or months improving existing articles first, while you learn how Wikipedia works. It is like going to your first ever piano lesson and saying you want to start playing a piano concerto TODAY: you are likely to have a difficult, frustrating, and unrewarding time.
I am also concerned about your words "I need to create". Nobody needs to create a Wikipedia article. Ever. People who think they "need" to create an article are nearly always under the misapprehension that Wikipedia is a suitable site for telling the world about something. That is called promotion|, and is forbidden on Wikipedia, which is an encyclopaedia.
As I say, I recommend that you start making small edits to existing articles: see Introduction. But if you do want to find out about creating a new article, look at your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 21:21, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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