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September 9

Question on table with column of dates

Hello,

I haven't edited many articles with tables, and I happened to be looking at this one List_of_United_States_Representatives_from_Nevada, and I noticed that when I clicked on the column header "Years" it sorted the table by month, not by year. By that I mean it had all the December dates, then all of the January dates, then all the March Dates, etc. It sorted the table in alphabetical order by the spelled out name of the month, not by the year.

How can I edit the table to make the dates sort correctly?

Morris (talk) 02:30, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

@Mpearl: Working on it. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 03:13, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

 Done @Mpearl: The table code doesn't recognize a date range as being a date, so just sorts it as a string. I created {{Sdr}}, which takes the starting and ending dates of the term and formats them, along with a data-sort-value containing just the starting date (which the table code knows how to sort correctly). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 07:10, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Images

I'd like to learn how to upload images in Wikipedia and how I should know about the copyrights and such. Hope someone helps me go through it step by step. Thank you so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lriverb (talk • contribs) 08:06, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

@Lriverb: Please see WP:IMAGE#Tutorials and help for links to various types of tutorials and WP:IMAGE#Policy and guidelines for policies. Copyright can be a complicated subject, but in general, pictures you take yourself with your own camera can be uploaded and used in articles. Anything else (images from the web, books, newspapers, your friends, even family) cannot be used unless they are specifically released for use or modification by anyone, for any reason, including commercial (i.e. selling them). There are, of course, exceptions, which is what all the documentation is about. Let us know if you have further specific questions. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 08:35, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Please delete defaming and derogatory text for Rhea Chakraborty IMMEDIATELY

• Link: Rhea Chakraborty

That page is her bio graphy... who write such things on a girl's bio page??? It is ridiculous! She is already suffering a lot. Please delete those...it is her bio graphy not newS report. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pyropic (talk • contribs) 08:14, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

@Pyropic: Wikipedia wan'ts to maintain a neutral point of view. I couldn't find a violation of Wikipedia rules on that page. Please be advised that I dont like it is not a valid reason to delete a page. (Side note: Wikipedia is a slow process. We don't delete stuff immedately in the sence I suspect above) Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 08:21, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

@Pyropic: You'll have to be more specific, at the article's talk page (Talk:Rhea Chakraborty), which is being well-watched. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 08:27, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

• Rhea_Chakraborty#Death_of_Sushant_Singh_Rajput does include a long-ish sentence about allegations levied against her by SS Rajput's father, so there is a half-decent argument to be made based on WP:BLPCRIME, but I would argue she enough of a public figure for the amount of material. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 09:05, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

@Pyropic: Chakraborty is a woman, not a girl. Many women don't like to be called girls, as it is seen as minimising and disrespectful, and in some cases, as misogynistic. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:49, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Twinkle and Curation toolbar

Hi! Just wanted to receive more information about using Twinkle and the Curation toolbar. I'd like to use this on my edits but I need more guidance on how to operate them. I've been reading about them in Wikipedia but I want to know where to find and how to incorporate them in pages.

Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bekkadn (talk • contribs) 10:16, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

CLarification:Both Twinkle and the Page Curation Toolbar are toolbars created by Gadgets. You don't need them to incorporate them into the page, you only use them on a page. Twinkle can be probbably activated right away, howewer, please be carefull with it. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 10:45, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Eagle Radio

Please can someone double check the page Eagle Radio. The station is now Greatest Hits Radio Surrey & East Hampshire but a user has made the page forward back to Eagle Radio. I have reverted the changes and re-moved the page to point at GHR Surrey & East Hampshire. All GHR station pages are now stand-alone. I have also responded to the user on the article's talk page. - Funky Snack (Talk) 11:45, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Publishing edits

Hello For some reason I can’t publish my changes on Wikipedia on my computer. Could you help me fix this? Thanks -Paul Vaurie (I don’t know how to sign these on mobile. Search my name at User:Paul Vaurie)

Paul Vaurie: your recent addition to Abdoulaye Doucouré was removed by Haklam1218 without explanation. I can't guess why. Is that what you're asking about? Maproom (talk) 14:02, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Maproom: no it’s not. I just can’t publish my edits on my computer for some reason. Why is that? Does anybody know? User:Paul Vaurie

Hello, Paul Vaurie. I'm sure we would all like to help, but "I can't publish my edits for some reason" is like ringing a garage and saying "My car won't go. Can you tell me what's wrong?" What exactly are you doing, and what exactly happens when you do it? --ColinFine (talk) 17:51, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Alright, let me try to explain, ColinFine. As soon as I hit publish changes, it starts to load and keep on loading but never actually tells me my changes have been published. It just keeps on going and it basically freezes. There's the spinning circle indicating its loading but nothing actually happens. I can publish my changes in visual editor now (it works), but not source editor. I'm currently using en.m.wikipedia.org (which is the mobile version of wikipedia on computer. for some reason, this works when using source editor. I am not so sure as to why, though. Anyways, I can't publish my changes in source editor as when i hit publish changes, it just keeps on bufferring and loading but nothing actually happens. I would be happpy if you help me find the cause of this issue. I hope this explanation was a little better. --Paul Vaurie (talk) 18:02, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, Paul Vaurie: that's much clearer, and in particular suggests that we can eliminate the user as the source of the problem! I haven't got an answer; but given that (if I understand you correctly) 1) you can save with VE, 2) you can save with SE as long as you use the mobile version, and 3) other people haven't reported this problem AFAIK, the problem is almost certainly with your browser. I suggest trying with a different browser (if only to demonstrate this), and clearing your cookies. If that doesn't work, I suggest asking at WP:Village pump (Technical). --ColinFine (talk) 18:23, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

I don't think it's the browser, ColinFine. I opened Microsoft Edge and tried publishing my changes with the SV, but it did the same thing.I have already tried restarting my computer, clearing my search history and cookies, etc. I will ask the Village pump thing (I'm not sure what that is.) Anyways, thanks. Paul Vaurie (talk) 18:29, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

You are publishing your edits here without any obvious problem - or are you using VE here to do that? Is it one specific article that is causing the problem?- Arjayay (talk) 18:34, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

In an earlier post they said "I'm currently using en.m.wikipedia.org (which is the mobile version of wikipedia on computer. for some reason, this works when using source editor" and their edits here indeed seem to be using the mobile site [1]. All of their most recent edits to articles seem to be using the visual editor so possibly the problem is still occurring although if it's on 2 browsers and after a restart I have no idea although I think we do need confirmation it's not specific to one page. Nil Einne (talk) 07:59, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Infobox?!

Ummm, is it just my browser, or did something happen to all the infoboxes? Weird formatting Kingoflettuce (talk) 14:05, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Kingoflettuce, have you tried purging the page? It might not have loaded correctly on your device. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:31, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Some Wikipedia pages are not loading properly on the mobile app today

To whom it may concern, As of today, the articles 2020 United States Senate elections, 2020 United States Senate election in Alaska, 2020 United States Senate election in Colorado, and 2020 United States Senate election in New Hampshire did not load properly and all I got is the pages in Times New Roman format. Please fix this as soon as possible. Thank you Sincerely, Jason Jason S. Goldstein (talk) 13:00, 9 September 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jason S. Goldstein (talk • contribs)

Edits

Im having trouble making edits to delete inaccurate information. How do I ensure the slanderous/misquoted information is removed if the user who posted will not allow me to make the edits?Goldensnitch1133 (talk) 16:02, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Discussion on talkpages (like Talk:Charlamagne tha God) with the editors you disagree with is an approved method. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:27, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Switching an image

 Courtesy link: Cody Rhodes

I am trying to change the main profile image for Cody Rhodes to a recent photo. The image currently there is from June 2017, and I am trying to update with one from 2020, as per his request. Cody is signed to All Elite Wrestling and I am the Digital Director for the company.

Why do my changes get getting reverted back to the old image? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AEWhello (talk • contribs) 17:30, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi AEWhello. There are a few things that you should be aware of:

• Wikipedia only allows images that are copyright-free or meet the fair use criteria. The recent photo you speak of must be released to essentially public domain by the copyright holder. What this means is that anyone would be able to use the image as long as they attribute the image correctly; this extends beyond Wikipedia.
• If you are affiliated with All Elite Wrestling who associates with Rhodes, you are acting as a paid editor and are strongly discouraged to edit the article directly. You are always welcome to submit edit requests on the talk page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:02, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, AEWhello. Since Wikipedia's article Cody Rhodes is neither owned by, controlled by, nor for the benefit of, Rhodes, if he wants something changed in the article, he or his agent should not edit the article directly, but should make an edit request on the article's talk page. Since you took the picture yourself and have communicated his request, you evidently have a Conflict of interest, and should declare this; if you are in any way paid for doing so, you must also make the declarations explained at Paid editing. --ColinFine (talk) 18:05, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

AEWhello The reason your changes got reverted the first time was because it broke the page. You removed the entire infobox, including references. The second time you did the same thing. In your edit summary you mentioned that the "changes were requested by Cody", meaning at that point you outed yourself as a paid editor. You are required to comply with the mandatory disclosures outlined at WP:PAID. The third time your edits were reverted it was probably because as a paid editor you shouldn't edit directly. The fourth attempt you made still did not have the image syntax quite right. I have fixed the image syntax for you, however if someone reverts it again, you really need to stop editing the article, and make a case on the talk page for why that image is preferable to the old one. You also need to make the mandatory paid editing disclosure, now. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:32, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Latino

The term Latino was a derogatory term. It was given to Hispanics that were captured by the British, as the only way they could communicate was in Latin, known by all Christians at the time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.227.253.173 (talk) 20:17, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Do you have a question about editing Wikipedia? David Biddulph (talk) 20:32, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

See Latino (demonym), which covers the etymology and criticisms at some length. If you have references, you are free to update that article. -Arch dude (talk) 22:02, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

edit

hi! i have an edit to submit for 'DJ Ron Nelson' > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Nelson_(DJ) ron was born september 18, 1962 thank you! signed, ron's assistant - denna — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:315F:DD30:502:1251:575F:A476 (talk) 23:19, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor. The proper place to discuss this is Talk:Ron Nelson (DJ). You will need to provide a link to a reliable published source that verifies the date of birth. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 23:47, 9 September 2020 (UTC)