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sports in canada

its about cricket i wrote cricket a popular sports in canada but someone said me cricket is not popular in canada

here are my reason for sayinng cricket is popular in canada

first the 2 million southasian living in canada consist 1/15 population of canada also watched by asian ausrtralian england africa living in canada global t20 league by icc in which top international player participating would be watch by million watch international cricket in canada million to billons are sure too watch in stadium and and on televison of global t20 league more than their regional sports so why u cant considered cricket is a popular sport in canada and they have also qualify for world cup

this are enough region to say cricket are popular in canada  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghoshprashant.51 (talk • contribs) 16:14, 5 June 2018 (UTC) 

• @Ghoshprashant.51: When you have disagreements with other editors, the best way to discuss them is via the talk page of the article, in that case Talk:Sports in Canada.

This being said, your above argument is original research, and in addition contains "peacock" terms ("popular" is not quantified). If you want to make an edit stick, you need to find a reliable source supporting it. For instance, instead of this bad edit you made, a good edit would be In 2018, the cricket world cup was watched by (X) persons in Canada or In 2018, cricket is regularly practiced by (X) Canadians., in either case with a reliable source supporting the assertion. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 16:37, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

thanks for the information on cricket in canada

i am new in wikipedia i am trying to become better day by day and sry for my bad edit

thanks PKT and Tigraan for the information and suggestion i am very thankful for your guidance, suggestion and information — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghoshprashant.51 (talk • contribs) 17:35, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

I've moved the above message to the existing section on this topic. Please don't start a new section when continuing the discussion on an existing topic. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:40, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Ghoshprashant.51: my pleasure. I've left you another message on your talk page to let you know a bit more about what I know about cricket here in the "Great White North", especially the Global T20 Canada. PKT(alk) 17:42, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

sports in pakistan

i have made few changes in above heading can someone explain me what is pending changes and pls review it and tell me the changes i added are better or worse than previous edit it will help me improve — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghoshprashant.51 (talk • contribs) 19:24, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Ghoshprashant.51, welcome to our Teahouse. Pending changes is a mechanism by which articles that are prone to repeated vandalism receive protection. Edits made to those articles by unregistered or new users do not go live immediately, but are subject to approval by a 'pending changes reviewer'. (See Wikipedia:Pending changes for more details of the process.) You will notice that I did approve your recent edits to this article, but because they were not quite right, I then followed it up my removing a couple of repeated words in the lead sentence, which I hope improved it still further. Another user, (Maproom) subsequently removed a bit of unnecessary capitalisation in the text and in headings. Because they are not a newly registered user, their edits did not need to be approved in this way. I think your edit was ok. However, you also made these edits to Sport in Afghanistan. I do not think you did the right thing there - you added too much emphasis on what I suspect is your favourite sport (cricket) into the lead, so perhaps you would remove this, especially as it does not look to have been supported by any references. It is important that an article on sport in a country has a lead paragraph that is balanced across all sports. Oh, one other thing, be careful not to use capital letters in the middle of sentences for normal words like Cricket - that is not correct. Use capital letters only at the start of a sentence, or for proper names, like those of people or places. Headings should not have capital letters in the second or subsequent words, except for the reasons just mentions. I hope you find this feedback helpful. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 20:55, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

RE: "Uploading malware-free .mp3 files (unsure about license, or lack thereof)"

To whom it may concern, Would I be allowed to upload an .mp3 file to a certain page where no .mp3 file exists? The page I'm referring to is:

"Manfred von Richthofen"

Any and all assistance IS GREATLY appreciated. Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tkhusa420 (talk • contribs) 21:51, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

References

If you're unsure about the license, you generally shouldn't upload it. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:28, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Tkhusa420, welcome to our Teahouse. To expand on Ian.thomson's succinct reply, audio (just like other images) may only be uploaded if either a) you own the copyright of the content; b) if the copyright has expired, or c) if it has already been clearly released under a creative commons licence, free for commercial or non-commercial use. Not only that, but the file format used must also be acceptable. Once not allowed here, MP3 licencing has now, apparently, expired so there is no longer any restriction on using that audio file format. So the issue lies with who owns the rights to any audio recording you fancy uploading, and any background music included within it? We are not qualified to offer copyright advice here, but as Ian said, if you don't know, don't do it! The two places you might wish to read more at - and follow links from - are: Help:Creation_and_usage_of_media_files#Audio, and Wikipedia:Copyright assistance. Does this assist you further? (Do please sign all posts by adding four tildes ~~~~ at the end, as this adds your name and a datestamp, which we all find helpful. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:52, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

new

how to reply someone via talk pls explain unable to reply dont know how to talk someone through talk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghoshprashant.51 (talk • contribs) 21:40, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello again Ghoshprashant.51. The first rule you must follow is to always sign your posts! You do this very simply by typing four tildes on your keyboard, like this: ~~~~. This adds your username and a timestamp. You should do this after every reply so people can follow who said what and when. Then I think all you need can be found at Help:Talk pages. IIn essence, if you want to contact a user, go to their talk page (you'll find the link after their username in their signature), and click 'Add Topic' to start a new conversation thread. If they have left a message on your page, just reply there - they will undoubtedly be watching your talk page. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:09, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Mark Madoff link on Wikipedia

I went to the Kate Spade Wikipedia page today because of the sad news of her death. At the bottom of the page, I clicked on a link titled, 'Deaths by Hanging in New York'. One of the entries I came across was Mark Madoff. When I touched the link, up came a photo and bio of Bernie Madoff. Someone should change this. The link should be about Mark not Bernie. The fact that the son could not escape the infamy of the father was likely part of the reason he took his own life. Can we not at least show some respect in this format by letting Mark have his own picture and bio with perhaps a one line reference to his father? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.125.254.3 (talk) 23:02, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello, anonymous IP. It looks like anyone clicking Mark Madoff gets automatically redirected to the Bernie Madoff page. This looks to be intentional, not vandalism. I'm not qualified to comment on any father/son relationship, nor do I have any interest in these people, but if you have concerns, the right place to discuss it is on that article's talk page. But don't just express outrage or annoyance - use evidence and force of reasoning to present a case for any change you would like to see. That's how we work here. And don't forget to sign every talk post with four tildes, like this ~~~~, so your username/IP address and timestamp are added automatically. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:16, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. I have removed the categories from the redirect page Mark Madoff. While they are technically correct, I think they are unhelpful for the reasons you give. If somebody writes an article about Mark, then he should appear in those categories, but as long as there is not one, I don't believe that he should --ColinFine (talk) 23:23, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, Colin. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:30, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Uploade pictures

Hi, can I upload a picture from an artists Public facebookpage? Kofidjompo Kofidjompo (talk) 00:22, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Not unless it has been released under an appropriate licence. - David Biddulph (talk) 00:48, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

References

Absolutely not, Kofidjompo! Welcome to our Teahouse, but I see nothing on that page to suggest the owner is happy for you to take their copyrighted pictures and give them away as if they were your own. That would not be acceptable practice. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:54, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer Nick Moyes But what if I ask the owner of the page (the artist) for permission? Kofidjompo (talk) 01:19, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Good question, Kofidjompo. That is a possible route to go down, but Wikimedia Commons (which is a separate body from Wikipedia) wouldn't just be able to take your word that permission was given, or that the image had been donated irrevocably for both commercial and non-commercial use. That said, it does have a system that allows a formal release statement to be sent in. See this guidance page for more information on that. Nick Moyes (talk) 01:25, 6 June 2018 (UTC)  

May I please have a wiki article about "Marfuns"?

I am curious about Marfuns and can find little information. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wlthrpr (talk • contribs) 00:41, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

If you can find little information then it is unlikely to be notable in Wikipedia's terms. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:46, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

I think you are searching under the wrong spelling- If you mean Marfan Syndrome,there seems to be a fair bit of information online, and yes, we do have an article on already. Curdle (talk) 03:30, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Improvements by new citations and several new reliable references

Some improvements are made by

- adding 6 citations (now there are 13 cited reliable references)

- citation of the link for International conference Kiel 1998

- source are quite reliable and they can be easily verified

- data concerning marital status (the last sentence, not of importance) was deleted since it is not verifiable without administrative documents

Are these improvements sufficient to lift the comments set at the beginning of the wiki presentation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cubercuber (talk • contribs) 21:35, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Link to article for the benefit of those not in the know: Miodrag Petković. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:39, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello Cubercuber and welcome to the Teahouse.

I'm short of time to do a more extensive comment, so let me just make two:

1. The entire first paragraph has no sources. On a larger article, we expect to see a summary at the beginning without footnotes - the summary is based on properly sourced material later in the body of the article in those cases. In this case, where the article is short, the information presented in the first paragraph must either be removed or attributed to a reliable source.
2. The citation counts are something that might appear in a discussion page where they are used as evidence for meeting the WP:NPROF criteria (I think this subject probably does). They are out of place in the article itself, unless a third party has made published comments about it (for instance, John Ioannidis).

There's lots that can still be improved in the article, but if you're thinking you've done enough to remove the maintenance tags, I'm afraid I'd have to disagree. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:18, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

From Draft to Mainspace

Who can I ask to move my draft to the mainspace? Kofidjompo (talk) 03:05, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Kofidjompo. You have already submitted Draft:Dead Elvis and His One Man Grave for review. However, it is unlikely to be approved, because many of your references are to Facebook, which is not a reliable source, and to the performer's own record label, which is a primary source. You also have a couple of interviews of the performer, which are also primary sources. You need to base the article on independent, secondary reliable sources that devote significant coverage to the performer. Read our notabilty guideline for musical performers and Your first article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:21, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Deleted Page

Hi! I'm new to Wiki and trying to understand the rules regarding something. My organization had previously hired an editor to publish a Wikipedia page for us. We didn't realize this was against the rules, but the editor was banned and our page was deleted. My question is this - what is the best (correct and proper) way to go about getting the article republished? Should I submit it as a draft and wait for someone to review it? I believe it passes all the standards for notability/sources, etc. From what I can find it was just deleted because the editor was banned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cclose18 (talk • contribs) 03:08, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello Cclose18 and welcome to Wikipedia! If you are being paid to edit here you must read this page first. (Also your account can only be used by one person.) Regarding your article you should read This page and Your First Article then submit a draft from your sandbox to AFC. Thanks.Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:32, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi User:Thegooduser I'm not paid to edit or write, just a volunteer who helps out. Will check out the page you mentioned and submit the draft. Thank you! Cclose18 (talk) 03:35, 6 June 2018 (UTC)Cclose18

Cclose18 it's not mandatory to submit a draft to AFC, but I strongly recommended doing it to avoid deletion.Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:37, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Cclose18 Hello. If you are volunteering for the organization, then you have a conflict of interest. Please read this page. Furthermore, you should check whether your organization is notable, by Wikipedia's sense of the word. To do this, please read this page carefully. Please be as meticulous, strict and honest when doing this exercise, and do it before attempting to create the article. If your organization is not notable, even borderline, any article on it will not be accepted, no matter how brilliantly you write it. To avoid spending hours in writing an article that potentially cannot ever be accepted, please take this advice seriously. Only if your organization passes that criteria by a comfortable margin should you proceed to write a draft, using this tool. Thanks. Darylgolden^(talk) Ping when replying 05:58, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

editing

Hi I want to add more information about "spelling bee" in Asia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salehalgarni (talk • contribs) 02:48, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Salehalgarni, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm guessing that you are wanting to add some information to the "Asia" section of the article Spelling bee, right? You are welcome to edit that article (and indeed that section). But please read about Verification first. Wikipedia is not interested in what you (or I, or any random person on the Internet) knows or thinks: it is only interested in information which has been published in a reliable source. So if there is some information that you want to add, your first action should be to find a published source (such as a newspaper, or a book from a reputable publisher, or a website which has a reputation for editorial control) for the information, and add only what is said in that source (in your own words, so as not to infringe their copyright). Preferably, you should cite the source - see WP:REFB for how to do this.

If the information you want to add is about a particular company or organisation, I advise you to do so only if you can find a source that is completely independent of that company or organisation (not even based on a press release or interview). If the information comes only from the company or organisation, it might come over as promotional, which is forbidden on Wikipedia.

If all this sounds a bit daunting, I suggest you post on the talk page Talk:Spelling bee, explaining what information you wish to add, and see if somebody who is interested in the article wants to help you. --ColinFine (talk) 08:19, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

How do you change the title of a page

I would like to change List of people from Berkhamsted ... to ... Notable residents of Berkhamsted ~ as the list contains not only the notable people born there but also the notable folk who moved, and lived in the town throughout history. How do I change the title :) and I guess i need only change the link to this page on the Berkhamsted page, but is the way of checking. Maybe the is a better title. -- BOD -- 17:41, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Bodney - the issue I see with your request is that "List of people from...." is a standard here on Wikipedia, which makes it rather easier for users to find similar sorts of lists. It's possible to create "Notable residents of Berkhamsted" but it should be redirected to the existing list. A similar example would be Notable people from Brighton <-- give this link a try to see what I mean. PKT(alk) 17:48, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks, thought it would be simple.-- BOD -- 18:00, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@Bodney: Unfortunately, not that simple. You've done it the wrong way round. I've just seen you've created Notable residents of Berkhamsted at New Page Review. I think the point was that we would keep the "List of people..." article, but simply create a redirect to it from "Notable Residents of..." Can you sort this out, please? Nick Moyes (talk) 18:30, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@Bodney: I've redirected the page Notable residents of Berkhamsted to List of people from Berkhamsted since this title follows wikipedia convention for list articles. Also note that you made a copy and paste move, this is a big no-no. Page moves MUST be performed using the "Move" tool, in order to preserve the editing history for attribution of edits. Please read this Help:How to move a page. Polyamorph (talk) 19:09, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Oops ...sorry apologies ...ignorance.-- BOD -- 22:35, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Oh i may have confused things further ...i did not read above properly ... but what I wanted to do is delete List of people from Berkhamsted and replace it with Notable residents of Berkhamsted or the now a bit clumsey List of notable residents of Berkhamsted because the latter two titles are more embracive, and better describe the article.The article covers not only those born there, but clearly also shows people who moved there.-- BOD -- 23:00, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@Bodney: I actually think you should stop trying to change things to suit your perspective. I understand what you're getting at, but you are going against the consensus/preferred format, as was mentioned initially. In virtually all cases, the target article to which other articles redirect is "List of people from..." Personally, I don't see any problem if one list contains the names of notable people who a) were born, lived and died there; b) were born there, but moved away, and c) were born elsewhere but moved to and lived in that place later in life. I accept that the problem with the latter, c), is that people move around a lot (take Joseph Priestley, for example). But lists like List of people from Reading, Berkshire or List of people from the Isle of Man and even the page you're concerned about all get around your worries with a simple introductory explanation of what's included. Can we stick to that approach please, and stop renaming articles to suit your genuine and good faith concerns, but which I don't really think help much? I think we need to move the pages back to where they were before this discussion started. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:49, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@Bodney: Bloomin' heck, my friend!!! I've just found you had this exact same discussion three and a half years ago on the article's Talk Page and were given the right answer back then, too! Will we see you again in another four years trying to do it all over again? Cue music. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:00, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

It needs moving back to its previous title, to be consistent with all the other articles listed at Category:Lists of English people by location. - David Biddulph (talk) 00:34, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Update: I've now got the page naming back to how it was. Nick Moyes (talk) 07:08, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

OK I understand and appreciate, big apologies for being slow, I was tired and my dinosaur brain was stuck on what seemed logical and couldn't see this was a case of following accepted practice.-- BOD -- 08:47, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello again dear Wikipedias

Hi everybody, you're having your tea? I haven'r had my coffee yet because I ran out of it but will go get some.

Roasted coffee beans - just for User:Robertgombos, who has run out!

A few days ago, while reading, I stubbed across an article about the Placido Domingo's Operalia - the most important international competition. Of coerce, haha, I immediately checked ig there is an article on WP about it. It is. So I plan to improve that article as much as I can because it is really important and most of the winners (especially those who won the 1st price) don't have a WP article. Subsequently I intend in my next few weeks (not between 5th and 14th of June - because I need to learn for my masters's degree in Art - but than I'll be free) to see all those red links blue.. I know all BPL policies. I will start with the sopranos for obvious reasons. We need to give them priority. Last night I was checking the WP:V reliable sources and there are plenty of them. I created Adela Zaharia. Because the soprano lives in Germany, many surceases are in German (added all the trans-title). This in not my first article, hoerver, Could you take a look? Any feebdack is wellcomed. (Mainly, I want to make sure to continue of not). This {{Userspace draft}} in the article whic I moved the article from my draft spafe to the Main Space. I don't think this will show up in the NPP broeese not new pages feed... so should stay or may be removed? Sicerilly Robertgombos (talk) 07:04, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

• @Robertgombos: With a quick look I would say Adela Zaharia is a very good article as it stands.

It was certainly well above my expectations when reading the garbled English from the above post. So... I say this as friendly as possible, but, come on. Please pay attention to what you write on "backstage" pages (such as talk pages, the Teahouse, etc.) as well. (Did you know there is a preview button to proofread before posting?) Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 07:57, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@Robertgombos:, I will pay more attention! thanks! Robertgombos (talk) 08:02, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@Robertgombos: Sorry for the tone of my previous message, re-reading it makes me realize it has quite a passive-aggressive feeling, which was certainly not my intention. Congratulations on creating quite a good Wikipedia article, it is harder than it sounds!

Otherwise, I assume in your reply above you copied {{re|Robertgombos}} from my post, so you just tried to "ping" yourself. You probably wanted {{re|Tigraan}} instead. See WP:PING for details of how the notification system works. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 08:33, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

No problem! Robertgombos (talk) 09:00, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

{{Multiple issues| {{BLP sources|date=May 2018}} {{peacock|date=May 2018}} }}

Need help on how to resolve this issues. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Polyduo (talk • contribs) 09:26, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

If you look at the version of the article with those tags you'll see that there are links saying "Learn how and when to remove this template message", which are in blue to indicate that they are wikilinks, in this case to Help:Maintenance template removal. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:46, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Can I write a biography?

Can I write a biography on a Docter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mufaddal2153 (talk • contribs) 10:36, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

All depends on whether the person in question meets Wikipedia's definition of notable. David notMD (talk) 11:22, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Referencing

How many references is required for a major statement made in an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shammahamoah (talk • contribs) 12:13, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

HiShammahamoah Welcome to Teahouse, In regardless the content added is considered a major/minor statement, it is required to support by independent, reliable source. The practice is to have one inline citation in the body text and two or three for controversial content. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 12:28, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Can anyone have a cup of tea to render the advances of Wikipedia

PLEASE INVITE HIM TO RENDER WIKIPEDIA'S CUP OF TEA — Preceding unsigned comment added by Navoneel Sen (talk • contribs) 09:08, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello Navoneel Sen and welcome to the Teahouse.

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia which "anyone can edit". The Teahouse is primarily a place for new editors to ask questions about how to edit. We try very hard to be friendly and polite here. Random chit chat, however, is not encouraged. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:21, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Changing the title of a page?

Hi,

I am trying to change the title of this page: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilfisk-Advance

From Nilfisk-Advance (old company name) to Nilfisk (new company name). I can edit the rest of the article but not the title. Any advice on how to fix this?

Louise — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louise Klinge (talk • contribs) 13:19, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

The English Wikipedia doesn't have any authority or control over the Finnish Wikipedia. You could try leaving a message on the article's talk page. Ian.thomson (talk) 13:28, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

If it is the same process as in the English Wikipedia, you don't edit the title, you move the article to a new title, and very new editors don't have that ability. In any event, you should check at the local help desk.--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:22, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

change recently published page from a redirect

Hi all, a recently published page, my first attempt, is now listed as a redirect when one searches for it online. I get the message "From a page move: This is a redirect from a page that has been moved (renamed). This page was kept as a redirect to avoid breaking links, both internal and external, that may have been made to the old page name." How can I publish the page or alter it now so that the redirect no longer takes place? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mischtmail (talk • contribs) 06:10, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Mischtmail: most of your recent edits have been to Robin Curtis (scholar), which exists as an article (though it needs more work). What is the name of the article (or ex-article) you're asking about? Maproom (talk) 06:56, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Maproom, it is that article Robin Curtis (scholar). The other edits I have just encountered by chance while working on the page Robin Curtis (scholar). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mischtmail (talk • contribs) 07:00, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Mischtmail. The redirect is Robin Curtis (Scholar) (with a capital S on scholar), which C.Fred moved to Robin Curtis (scholar) (with a lower case s), leaving the redirect behind. I don't think the extra redirect is a problem, but if you think it is, I believe you can ask for it to be removed by adding {{db-r3}} to it. (You can get to it by following Robin Curtis (Scholar), and then pick the "redirected from" link at the top). The only page that links to that redirect is your sandbox, and you probably want to remove that redirection anyway, so that you can reuse it for another draft. Again, pick your sandbox, and then go back through the "Redirected from" links to get there. --ColinFine (talk) 08:34, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry, could you clarify the last part? I tried several times to remove the redirection from my sandbox but only created chaos in the process, so I erased the changes and still have the text being redirected through my sandbox. Thanks!Mischtmail (talk) 16:23, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

@Mischtmail: I've blanked your sandbox; you can now reuse it. Deor (talk) 16:39, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

That is awesome! Thanks so much!!Mischtmail (talk) 16:46, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

culture in srilanka & sports in srilanka

please someone who has knowledge about srilanka provide additional citations for verification in culture of srilanka and sports in srilanka — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghoshprashant.51 (talk • contribs)

Hi @Ghoshprashant.51, I think you're talking about the Sport in Sri Lanka and Culture of Sri Lanka articles (it's helpful to link to articles using the [[bracket notation]] in your posts here so we can find them easily). You might be able to find someone to help with those issues but in the long run it would be better if you fix them yourself! If you click "Learn how and when to remove this template message" on those pages then you'll find Help:Maintenance template removal, which has instructions on how to add citations. You might also want to see Help:Referencing for beginners. P.S. please remember to WP:SIGN your posts by placing four tildes ~~~~ at the end of your messages on discussion pages like this one! Let us know if you have any problems with that. --Habst (talk) 18:33, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

New page and Links from other pages

I have a new page. Looks very nice. I have put a URL/Link from an existing page. Someone.. reverted the URL/Link on that existing page. Why would they do this? The URL/Link is valid. I am a great-grandson of the gentlemen I am writing about. My mother gave me so much information that before I die I should share.  :-)

Your thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by EvanVenn (talk • contribs) 16:06, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi @EvanVenn, your article looks good! Unfortunately some people might think it's not good practice to link to draftspace articles (with "Draft:" at the beginning) in the mainspace (regular articles like Cinematograph). The other editor may have reverted that link not because the article was bad but just because it's still a draft article. Hopefully someone will approve it soon so you can begin linking it in other articles! --Habst (talk) 16:17, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

It's not what "some people think" that matters, it's Wikipedia policy. At Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Linking#What_generally_should_not_be_linked it says "Do not create links to user, WikiProject, essay or draft pages in articles". Maproom (talk) 16:54, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I agree I should have linked to the policy directly, thanks. --Habst (talk) 17:22, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Submission declined, but on grounds of insufficient referencing rather than lack of notability. Per the reviewer, learn how to create references, add as appropriate, and resubmit. It is essential to understand that what you know to be true cannot be part of Draft:Robert Royou Beard just because you know it. You must find published sources for the information. David notMD (talk) 19:11, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Mobile web article descriptions

On the mobile web version of Wikipedia, when you are using the search bar, some articles have a little description under them. E.g., when searching ‘George Washington’, his article will appear with the text ‘1st President of the United States’ underneath it. I would like to know how to edit this text since I found a typo in one of them. I would imagine that the goal is to get all articles having one of those descriptions, so I’d also be interested in helping to add them for articles that don’t already have those descriptions.

Could somebody point me to where I could edit/add these descriptions?

Thanks in advance.

R64Q (talk) 19:20, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi R64Q. The description can both be from Wikidata and from {{Short description}}. You didn't name the real page so I cannot say whether is uses Wikidata or the template. See Wikipedia:FAQ/Editing#How do I edit mobile subtitles? and Wikipedia:Short description. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:06, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks very much PrimeHunter. Your explanation was quite helpful. Sorry for not listing the original page which was Viktor Potapov. I went ahead and edited that page's Wikidata entry to fix the typo (Soveit rather than Soviet). Thanks again for the help! R64Q (talk) 20:27, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Demi Lovato's awards

its not really an add to this site its more of a concern in the English part of Demi Lovato's awards and nominations it says that she won 56 and nominated for 161 but on the french part it says she won 97 and was nominated for 161, so check your information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:B060:D92:1057:C9F4:2EF9:54BE (talk) 20:12, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia languages are edited independently. The English List of awards and nominations received by Demi Lovato and the French fr:Liste des distinctions de Demi Lovato choose to list different awards. There are a lot of awards in the World and it's not realistic to list all of them. According to the articles she won 56 of the 161 nominations listed in the English article, and 97 of the 151 (not 161) in the French. I haven't checked the counts. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:41, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Uploading to Wikisource

I would like to upload the text of the Type of Constans to Wikisource. It has already been keyed in in full in the middle of Type of Constans, but I can't find any instructions as to how to 'take a copy' and move that copy to Wikisource. Help would be appreciated. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:58, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

The instructions are here: meta:Help:Transwiki and s:Help:Adding texts, Gog the Mild. But first things first. Even if the original text might be out of copyright due to its age, the English translation might not be. Who translated it and when? The book that contains this translation seems to be from 2014, so we'll need more information. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 21:39, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Factory For textile

Hi everyone, My name is shon we are a textile factory. Is it possible to use Wikipedia as a library to give details of my factory, details about machines, our work, and our environmental policies etc — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schon sports (talk • contribs) 23:37, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Schon sports, Welcome to Teahouse. Wikipedia a not depository for advertising or company brochures and if you write a article as per your descriptions, the article will be rejected and deleted. If your organisation meets Wikipedia organisation notability requirements and the content would be supported by independent, reliable sources then the article would be merit a stand alone page in Wikipedia. Please note you would have conflict of interest (COI) if you write about your company as you are affiliated to the organisation. COI means any any person, who is affiliated to the subject of a Wikipedia page (family members, friends, client, employers, yourself and etc), involves in contribution of the page. If a person is paid to write about a subject, that is a financial conflict of interest. COI is strongly discourage on Wikipedia as COI editors would/might not able/aware to write the article in a neutral point of view. For COI, editor need to disclose your COI when involved with the effected article. COI discloses need to be made on user page (your user page), article talk page and /or on edit summary of an edit you made. You could find how to disclose COI here. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 00:12, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Creating Articles

How Do I create articles in Wikepidia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Infinite Kid (talk • contribs) 22:38, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

@Infinite Kid: Check out WP:YFA. It explains all the steps you need to follow, and there is a wizard there you can use for creating a draft article for review. For new users, it is usually suggested to start by working on existing articles rather than take on the rather difficult task of creating a new article. RudolfRed (talk) 22:45, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

@Infinite Kid: You could do worse than trying out our interactive tour called The Wikipedia Adventure - users can collect up to 15 badges as they complete missions in which they come to grips with some of the basic principles of editing articles. Hope you enjoy your time here, and do remember that nothing should be added to any article unless you provide a good Reliable Source as a reference from sites or books that are independent of the subjects you're writing about. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:21, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Suggestions? Cook School of Intercultural Studies

Hello! I recently submitted a page for the Cook School of Intercultural Studies. It was rejected due to being "like an advertisement." I am trying to neutralize language in the article. Is there any suggestions on how to better do that? Additionally, what can I do if there isn't a plethora of outside sources that do not involve the school itself? I have direct sources from the school's website regarding basic information (history, mission, faculty, etc) and news stories by the university (Biola), but there seems to be very little outside sources.

Thank you! Eddieeagle08 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eddieeagle08 (talk • contribs)

Hi, Eddieeagle08, welcome to our Teahouse. Your main problem is that, if you cannot supply reliable independent sources to prove that others have taken note and written about this school, then it will fail Wikipedia's notability criteria - simple as that. This is becasue we don't care what an organisation says about itself; we only write about it, based upon what other sources say about it. If they don't exist, then the page can't exist. Assuming for a moment that this school were indeed notable, then I'd say to you "Less is more". Try appreciating that Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a promotional website, and cut out all the trivial, petty detail and just tell us why this school is notable. If you can do that you're a third of the way there. The other two thirds is Notability. That's where I fear you may stumble and fall. I'm sorry to be the bearer of not good news. Sometimes the solution is to Redirect to the parent organisation page, and make a brief entry there. I suspect this could be a good way forward for you, though I've not checked any of the references myself. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:36, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Eddieeagle08, Good day. Adding to what user:Nick Moyes's comment above, Cook School of Intercultural Studies is one of the schools of Biola_University. You could just add some content, provided they are directly supported by independent, reliable source as of the current stand, Cook School of Intercultural Studies draft page would not merit a stand alone page in Wikipedia. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 01:52, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Follow-up to How to create a Biography of a living person

How to create a biography page of a known living person?

I have created a page in Sandbox with a username which is suggested by editors to change it. Does the content created on a Sandbox page by a username will be deleted if the same username is changed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uanmedia (talk • contribs) 02:10, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

User:Uanmedia - What is the question? You have created User:Uanmedia/sandbox which contains a draft of a biography of a living person. A sandbox can be renamed by moving it, either within user space or to draft space. Moving (renaming) a page does not change its content. I have a few comments on the content. First, the draft is not neutral, and reads as if it was written to praise its subject rather than describing him neutrally. Second, you have for some reason used special table formatting for headings. Please don't do that. See WP:Markup on section headings. You can rename the sandbox by moving it. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:26, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi talk. Question is same and well understood by you.

What do you suggest to make it possible that BPL page appears on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uanmedia (talk • contribs) 02:41, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Uanmedia, Welcome to Teahouse. A rename moves your contributions and userspace pages to a new name, and preserves your account preferences . Please visit request rename venues and choice one of the appropriate place to request for the change. For a BPL page to be merit as a stand alone page in Wikipedia, it has to meet (1) Wikipedia notability guidelines - see WP:N, (2) the content need to be supported by independent, reliable source - see WP:RS, content needs to be written in a neutral point of view - see WP:NPOV. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 02:50, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

How do I Message Someone in their talk page

How do I message someone in their talk page? Infinite Kid (talk) 02:22, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Infinite Kid, Welcome to Teahouse! If you want to write a message on the his/her talk page, just to to their talk page (click "talk" on the left after the user name) and it will lead you to editor talk page. Click "New section", input the subject of your message (above the line) and start writing (below the line). Do sign off by inserting four ~ at the end of your message. Let us know if anything else we could help. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 02:30, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

What if the person doesn’t get notified or whatever it’s called? Infinite Kid (talk) 02:34, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Infinite Kid:, When you send a message on the "editor talk page", the editor will get an automatic notification message as long as the editor logs into Wikipedia page/open the Wikipedia page. If the editor sets the preference with an email and ticks "email me when a file /watchlist has changed" (usertalk page would be default set as his/her watchlist", the an automatic notification would be sent to the editor email address informing the editor he/she has a message. To say all that, make sure you "ping" the editor(s) in "all other talk pages", such as article, Teahouse, help desk talk page and etc, when you send a message to them. For example to ping me, just insert {{ping|CASSIOPEIA}} before you start you message. By the way, do add an extra ":" from the previous message when replying/sending a message. Do come back to Teahouse, if you have further question. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 03:12, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Ok Thanks Infinite Kid (talk) 03:33, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Will you check the automatic archive (Lowercase sigmabot III) I placed on a Talk page?

This is the first time I've done this so I want to make sure I do it correctly. The page is Talk:Causes of mental disorders. I read the "How to" for Lowercase sigmabot III, and looked at some Talk pages which use that archiving method.

Two things that weren't clear from the instructions:

(1) Do I need to add {{Automatic archive navigator}} by itself, in addition to including it after "| archiveheader ="?

(2) For this line:

| archive = Wikipedia Talk:Causes of mental disorders//Archive %(counter)d

should it be "Wikipedia Talk:", as I have it now, or simply "Talk:"?

Thanks!   - Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) 03:35, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

(1) No. You don't want to add {{Automatic archive navigator}} by itself, because in doing so you have labelled the talk page itself as an archive.

(2) No. The page you are trying to archive is Talk:Causes of mental disorders, not Wikipedia Talk:Causes of mental disorders.

(3) It should be /Archive %(counter)d, not //Archive %(counter)d

You may also want a link to the archives, looking something like:

{{archives|bot=lowercase sigmabot III|age=180|auto=yes|search=yes}}

or one of the other alternatives as shown at User:Lowercase sigmabot III/Archive HowTo#After you have set up archiving

I will leave folk who are more expert than I am to check further. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:27, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much David Biddulph! Much appreciated. :O) ... One last question (for anyone who knows): I think I needed to create the first Archive subpage, which I did at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Causes_of_mental_disorders/Archive_1 . If that is not correct, please let me know.   - Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) 22:07, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

I don't believe that you needed to create the subpage yourself, but in any case the bot has successfully added to it. I have added the {{Automatic archive navigator}} header, which the bot will hopefully include in any subsequent pages which it creates. - David Biddulph (talk) 04:00, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

the word is

Why is the letter I with the word is capitalized instead of lower case (examples: When Night Is Falling and Blue Is the Warmest Color)? The word is is an extremely popular and common word. So are words like and, the and of. But why are these three words completely lower case and the word is has one capital letter and one lower case in Wikipedia articles? Can someone tell me? Angela Maureen (talk) 08:35, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

September 1988, because it's proper grammar. In titles, only articles, conjunctions and prepositions are left uncapitalized. "Is" is a verb. John from Idegon (talk) 08:47, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi September 1988, Welcome to Teahouse. The naming convention for English titles in Wikipedia for books and films takes on an initial capital of the word, except for articles ("a", "an", "the"), the word "to" as part of an infinitive, and prepositions and coordinating conjunctions shorter than five letters (e.g., "on", "from", "and", "with"), unless they begin or end a title or subtitle. Both When Night Is Falling and Blue Is the Warmest Color) are films title for such "Is" is cap. Let us know if anything else we could help. Have a good day. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 08:50, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

There needs to be a mention of the Italians in the second battle of the Marne, as they took the brunt of the initial German attack which started 15 July 1918, on the eastern leg of the Aisne-Marne salient just a few miles south west of Rheims,

Hi

Could someone kindly advise how can I edit the article on the second battle of the Marne. I am an amateur WW1 historian and have several sources describing the major contribution by the Italian 2nd Army Corp made at that battle. In fact if the Italians had been defeated, the Germans would have reach the forest of the Mountain of Rheims, enveloped the city and secured a position in the rear of the French army of Gouraud. They would have then been able to develop their 'pied a terre' on the left bank of the Marne. Thus the great counter-offensive of Foch which began on July 18, would have been strategically impossible at that time. Even at that late stage Germany could have possibly won the war. See New York Times JULY, 1922

Kind regards Fabris — Preceding unsigned comment added by E F Fabris (talk • contribs) 11:33, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Welcome; we're always glad to have someone who has studied the subject of one of our millions of articles. This little department, however, can't handle the details of all those millions. Fortunately, they each have a Talk page for that purpose. In this case it's Talk:Second battle of the Marne. Mention the above details there, and your fellow editors who specialize in such questions will help figure how the information should be integrated into the article. Jim.henderson (talk) 11:56, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Actually Talk:Second Battle of the Marne (case is significant). - David Biddulph (talk) 12:00, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. My correction got caught in the edit conflict. Jim.henderson (talk) 12:02, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

How is quoting facts from a non-profit craft association's website 'promotional' or 'advertising'?

I have received this:

Hello, I'm Hzh. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to John Henshall (photographer) have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Hzh (talk) 10:37, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

I am new to Wikipedia but how on earth can quoting the aims of a NON-PROFIT craft association (Guild of Television Camera Professionals) to which 'John Henshall (photographer)' belongs be seen as 'promotional', 'advertising' or 'using Wikipedia as a soapbox'? They are OBJECTIVE FACTS from an 'independent source' and I thought that is what Wikipedia is supposed to be about? How could the Guild of Television Camera Professionals be considered to benefit? See the statement at the head of the website concerned at www.gtc.tv – that's what this problem is about.

Thank you, Hahthen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nahthen (talk • contribs) 12:31, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Nahthen. Welcome to our Teahouse and to Wikipedia. What you recieved was simply a standard wording courtesy message to explain why an editor chose to delete a tiny fraction of what you had added to the page about John Henshall (photographer). Here is the 'diff' which shows the text he/she chose to delete about the Guild of Photographers. The article is about the photographer, not the aims of the Guild, so you had no reason to include a quote about itself from its own website. We would all regard that is irrelevant and promotional. There's a link to it, so users can always follow that if they want to know more.. That said, you have not committed some terrible crime here! All newcomers make mistakes in their passage from newbie to expert. Whilst it may seem a slap in the face to have one's contributions edited by others, (I still don't like it when it happens, either) that is precisely how we work here. So please just accept that is how things happen, and learn from the experience. Because we have over 5.4 million pages, we do now need quite a few policies and guidelines to ensure they all conform to the agreed style and format of the world's greatest encyclopaedia. Don't worry that you don't know them all - but a common approach if you don't understand something an editor has done is simply to go to their talk page and politely ask them to explain why to you. We're all used to that. Maybe you could try that next time? Best wishes for your editing journey. Do give The Wikipedia Adventure a try out. It's a great way to learn. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 12:52, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks for your clear explanation Nick Moyes. Reassured. Very much still learning! Regards Nahthen —Preceding undated comment added 13:13, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

About writing a Biography

Hello Wikipedia, I saw some blogs of a person and theoretically he might be a famous author. So can I write something to about his life? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samin Yasar Al Sami (talk • contribs) 15:07, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

@Samin Yasar Al Sami: Blogs are not generally reliable sources. In order to be considered notable as required for an article, the individual would need to have been covered in reasonable depth in multiple sources that meet the reliability criteria and are independent of the article subject. If you can find such references, an article may be appropriate. If they don't exist, an article on that subject wouldn't be acceptable. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 16:40, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Changes

I have some questions about the profile, and some articles need to be edited, any suggestions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhenomenaI (talk • contribs) 16:19, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

@Phenomenal: My first suggestion is to be clear and specific in your requests. I am guessing that you mean your declined edit requests to Talk:Iraq. The advice you were given there was already good; you will need to establish a consensus for the edit you wish to see made. You can do that via a discussion on the article talk page, or can use dispute resolution if you cannot come to agreement with other editors there. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 16:43, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Smallpox edit

Hello, I see a mistake on the Smallpox page, but I have only just started making edits under a real account and haven't made enough edits to be autoconfirmed yet (also it might not have been four days yet, can't remember).

If you follow the link below, it takes you to the "Hemorrhagic" section of the page. Right beneath "Hemorrhagic", there is a see also link. The see also link redirects you to the exact same place; it is self-linking. I think the see also link should be removed if it doesn't actually go to a new page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorrhagic_smallpox

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ikjbagl (talk • contribs) 20:21, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Ikjbagl, welcome to the Teahouse. You are right. I have removed the see also link. Previously there was a brief article [1] called "Hemorrhagic smallpox". You can click "View source" to submit an edit request. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:36, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! Is there a way for me to reply to these without using "Edit Source", or is that what I'm supposed to do? Ikjbagl (talk) 20:59, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

article Jan Stewer

I have accessed the 1900++ editions of the Devon and Exeter Gazette for stories by "Jan Stewer" and editorial material on A. J. Coles / "Jan Stewer." This adds quite a lot of information on him and his books which is not available anywhere else. This documents material in the only biography (by Cooke)--which is NOT documented--and corrects it at some points. However--is this Original Research?? The date of the first story is a week out--clearly seen in the newspaper edition of 2 March 1900. But Cook--and the Wikipedia article gave it as 9 March. I have corrected that. Is this permissible? How much may I add??Albert Leibowitz (talk) 21:18, 7 June 2018 (UTC)