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Hello, I am new to Wikipedia. I would like to know how can I start a new page or new topic in Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashish jayn (talk • contribs)

@Ashish jayn: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Successfully starting a new article (not just "page") is probably the hardest task on Wikipedia. It takes much time and practice. New users are much more successful at creating articles if they first spend time(weeks or even months) editing existing articles in areas that interest them, to get a feel for how Wikipedia works and for what is looked for in articles. New users that dive right in to creating articles without fully understanding the process often end up disappointed and with hurt feelings as their work is mercilessly critiqued, edited, and even deleted by others. I don't want you to have bad feelings, so I would suggest that you edit existing articles for awhile, starting with small edits, moving up to more substantive edits, and working your way to creating an article.

However, if you still want to attempt to create an article, you should read Your First Article. Once you do, you should visit Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft for review. This way you can get feedback on it before it is formally placed in the encyclopedia, instead of afterwards when it will be treated more critically. 331dot (talk) 17:51, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Our Young Folks article now in St. Nicholas Magazine redirect space. Please help!

My plan was to write my Our Young Folks article and submit it for review, so that someone could resolve the problem of there being a redirect to St. Nicholas Magazine. But when I copied by completed article into the Article Wizard I was sent to the redirect site and I got confused and ended up saving my changes to the St. Nicholas redirect. Could someone please help me fix this problem? Where should I be posting this cry for help so that someone can turn my work into a "regular" article and not a redirect? I've only published three previous Wikipedia articles and this is not something I know how to fix. Karenthewriter (talk) 17:18, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

@Karenthewriter: when you go to the page and it redirects you, click the "redirected from" link and then it takes you to the redirect, which I see does have text. But it's not showing the text because the redirect is still there. You can edit the page and remove the line that says redirect. Then it would stop redirecting. – Pretended leer {talk} 18:21, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

@Karenthewriter: Oh, and you might need to use "source editing mode" or whatever it's called. But on a redirect, I'd expect that to be the default. Another thing you might want to do is replace the bold lines with actually headings. You can do that while in source editing mode, by removing the apostrophes at the start and end of those lines and putting equal signs instead. Each heading should start and end with the same number of equal signs, which must be at least two. In visual editing mode, there should be an option to make a line a heading. Just remember to un-bold them while you turn them into headings. – Pretended leer {talk} 18:28, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you Pretended Leer. Our Young Folks is now a real article, and not something trapped in a redirect! Since I'm on my Kindle right now I can't sign this properly, but this is Karenthewriter who is grateful.

Hello, Karenthewriter. Looks like a good job: well done. You could tidy up the reference list by using named references. --ColinFine (talk) 19:48, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you ColinFine. I attempted to tidy up the appearance of the Our Young Folks reference list, but my attempts didn't change the appearance, so I reverted back to the way things had been. I guess I'm better at writing articles than I am at formating. Karenthewriter

can anyone help me?

I am an aspiring musician who needs to have a wiki written. I have no idea where to even begin, I'm trying to understand how this all works but its out of my realm. A quick google search of my name brings up a bunch of results, "Upstates" I'm not sure why a wiki doesn't already exist or if it even should? clueless here, anyone? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6000:1100:46ed:4986:c180:ab18:6675 (talk) 13:59, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello. If you want to create an article, use the article wizard. However, since you are an IP address, you need to submit your draft to WP:Articles for creation. But, since you claim you are the subject you want to write about, you should refrain from writing an autobiography about you, because it is conflict of interest editing. Instead, someone will write an article about you, as long as you are notable enough, wherein you are covered by multiple reliable sources. LPS and MLP Fan (LittlestPetShop) (MyLittlePony) 14:13, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi. First off, no one needs to have a Wikipedia page, and often when someone comes along in a rush to create one, it is because it is to tie in with an event or other PR push, which inevitably makes it extremely promotional, usually results in it being deleted or heavily trimmed, and so it all backfires. So, I advise taking your time over this. Secondly, it is very rarely if ever a good idea to write an article about yourself - for reasons laid out here WP:AUTO. Thirdly, as to whether a Wikipedia article 'should' exist about you - do you meet the requirements at WP:GNG (i.e., several reliable, respected, independent publications have written about you in depth) or the more specific criteria at WP:MUSICBIO? If you meet those requirements, and you definitely want to write about yourself, and you have read and considered the information at WP:AUTO, then you can write a draft and submit it at WP:AFC, being sure to declare openly your conflict of interest, and other editors will determine if it should be published. Hug^syrup 14:17, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

so to conclude I'm not notable enough. lol. ok back to drawing board, and not really a pr push, I been trying to have this done for awhile now, the itch is just coming harder than ever, honestly I'm hoping it will assist in clarifying who I am as an artist, that I'm not a band or a group, again, I have songs with some of the most famous people in the world, its baffling to me that this is proving so difficult. thanks to all those who have clarified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erikcharles (talk • contribs)

No problem, glad we could help. I think it's worth saying that having an article about yourself on Wikipedia isn't really something you should overly focus on or see as a measure of your success or worth. Sure, it can be useful because it comes up on Google, but it's very much a double-edged sword as it won't necessarily say what you want it to say. I'd stop worrying about it, focus on your art and your work and the spaces you can control (website, social media, etc.) and one day, when you're famous, you'll be pleasantly surprised to discover that a total stranger has written an article about you. Best of luck. Hug^syrup 14:29, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Comes down to - have people not connected to you published articles in reputable sources about you? Often, internet searches on a name turn up mentions, but many of those are too short or not considered reliable sources. Wikipedia is all about verifiable notability. David notMD (talk) 19:50, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Kaufman County Murders

How do I get an editor to update an entry? https://krld.radio.com/articles/eric-williams-returns-court-get-prosecutor-dismissed-appeals

  8/6/2019

DALLAS (1080 KRLD) - For the first time since his capital murder conviction and death sentence, former Kaufman County Justice of the Peace Eric Williams was in a North Texas courtroom yesterday. Williams and his legal team attempted to get the man who sent him to death row, appointed prosecutor Bill Wirskye, dismissed from the appeals process. Wirskye was appointed after the murders of Kaufman County District Attorney Mike McLelland, his wife and first assistant Mark Hasse. Former 5th Court of Appeals judge Molly Francis, who has been appointed for Williams' writ hearing, refused the request. Williams was convicted of killing the McLellands in March of 2013. He was charged, though not prosecuted, with the murder of Hasse. During a dramatic sentencing hearing, Kim Williams detailed how her husband dressed in non-descript clothing to kill Hasse. Two months later, she testified that Williams dressed as a sheriff's deputy to gain access into McLelland's home. He shot both the D.A. and Mrs. McLelland in a hail of gunfire. The shootings were in revenge for a theft conviction and disbarment. Starting Monday, Francis will preside over a writ hearing. Williams is challenging his conviction on grounds that his legal team was ineffective, the prosecution had a secret agreement with Kim Williams and prosecutorial misconduct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.205.91.77 (talk • contribs)

The best place to discuss this is the talk page of the article Kaufman County murders. Maproom (talk) 18:25, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

To Arrest and trials I added a sentence: "Williams filed a new appeal in August, 2019." David notMD (talk) 20:12, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

name of an organization

How do I update the name of the Sitka Summer Music Festival which the Board voted this spring to remnem the Sitka Music Festival - leaving out the "summer" as it is becoming more year round. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.58.203.250 (talk) 19:57, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. Since I guess you are connected with the festival, you have a conflict of interest, and so should not edit the article directly. What you can do is to put an {{edit request}} on the article's Talk page - preferably with a reliably published source for the change - and somebody will come along and attend to it. --ColinFine (talk) 20:39, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Television infobox

Hello! I just added the executive producer to Gemma Collins: Diva Forever, but for some reason, it isn't being displayed on the article. No message is displayed while on preview mode either. Would an experienced editor be able to look at the infobox to figure out why it isn't being displayed? The rest of the infobox seems to be fine. – DarkGlow (talk) 21:20, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

@DarkGlow: The executive_producer parameter appeared twice in the infobox. The second one was blank, effectively overwriting the value of the first one that you filled in. I deleted it and now it displays properly. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 21:48, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Can a YouTube video from the verified Make-A-Wish YouTube channel be sourced if it is in Fundraiser mode

Hi- Sorry that this is a double post, as I put it on the Emma Chamberlain Talk Page (she is a YouTuber). Not sure who looks at that, so thought this would have a higher view count. I won't do this again if it is wrong. I posted this below on her Talk Page:

Hi anyone- I have been trying to edit Emma Chamberlain's page and keep getting things deleted. Yesterday Make-A-Wish posted a short YouTube video of Emma with them at VidCon. Make-A-Wish is a verified channel. There have been tweets and IG from them, but those aren't acceptable. I believe that a verified YouTube channel is sufficient to establish that the channel has an association with the person they are showing. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2tYOOexZck&t=13s

But even if it is OK per Wikipedia's policy, the video is currently in Fundraiser mode, which makes a citation a direct link to an organization asking for money. So what does anyone think? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilith Before The Garden (talk • contribs)

Hi Lilith Before The Garden. This is something better suited for discussion on the article's talk page. You've already posted about this at Talk:Emma Chamberlain so be a little patient and give those interested in or watching the article a chance to respond. In addition, when an another editor has removed content from the article and left an edit summary explaining why, it's generally not a good idea to try and re-add that content without discussion per WP:BRD. It's OK to be WP:BOLD in trying to improve and article, but when your "improvements" are WP:REVERTED by another editor (except when the revert is an obvious case of WP:VANDALISM, or a serious policy/guideline violation), you're going to be expected to engage in article talk page discussion to establish a consensus in favor of re-adding the content.

Finally, please try to remember to WP:SIGN your talk page posts because it makes it much easier for others to know who posted what and when. If you're not sure how to sign your posts, please look at WP:TILDE. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:35, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Looking to remove my picture from another person with the same name and wikipedia page

On the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chatfield

My photo, has been wrongly added to someone else's wikipedia page. I'm wondering how to go about getting this removed I saw options to replace but not to remove the picture when using the page editor.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.95.43.69 (talk) 00:45, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Well, there is nothing you can do about it now, because Gehenna1510 already removed the image, as seen here. LPS and MLP Fan (Littlest Pet Shop) (My Little Pony) 01:50, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi IP 174.95.43.69. I wouldn't say there's nothing you can do about it, but that depends on what you're asking. If you just wanted the file removed from the article, then that's already been taken care of; so, you don't really need to do anything else. If you want the file deleted from Wikimedia Commons because you're the copyright holder and someone uploaded it without your permission, then there's actually something you can do about that. The file is uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, so it will need to be taken care of there. You can nominate the file for deletion by going to the file's page (File:Michael Chatfield.jpg) and clicking on "Nominate for deletion" (left side of the screen under "Tools"). Just go through the process and the software will do the rest. You can also, if you prefer, follow the instructions in wmf:DMCA takedowns and contact the Wikimedia Foundation directly. Now, since the file seems to have been uploaded without a proper license (or at least a license which can be verified), I did tag it for deletion for lacking proper permission. If the license is still not verified after seven days, then it will be deleted by a Commons administrator. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:48, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

new user: what to do

Hello! I am creating an page about an artist similar to the published age of Howardena Pindell. In order for the page to be published, and post creating a new account to do so. What do I need to do to entire that my account or user name has been approved properly? Help! Also how do I easily go about finding other pages for editing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moshimena (talk • contribs) 21:56, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Moshima. You don't need to have either your account or your username approved to create an article; you username only needs to be in accordance with Wikipedia:Username policy. As for the subject you wish to write an article about, please take a look at Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything because only topics considered to be Wikipedia notable should really have articles written about them. There are various notability guidelines, but the one which seems relevant here in Wikipedia:Notability (people), in particular Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Creative professionals. So, if you can establish that Pindellthe person who want to write about is Wikipedia notable, then an article can be written; if not, then one shouldn't be written. For some general information on writing an article, please look at Help:Your first article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:47, 3 August 2019 (UTC); [Note:Post edited by Marchjuly per Eman235's post below. -- 00:23, 4 August 2019 (UTC)]

Marchjuly: The article Howardena Pindell already exists, I believe Moshimena was just using it as an example of the type of article. (The advice is still good, of course.) Eman235/talk 22:59, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that. I've amended my post accordingly. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:23, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you both! If I use the user space draft, can I turn that draft into the article I want to eventually publish? And do my contributions to talk spaces like these, count as a edit, in my overall 10 edits to receive account confirmation? Moshimena (talk) 14:53, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Moshimena, you can—I suggest putting {{AFC submission/draft}} on the draft page, and when you have finished the draft you can push the blue "Submit your draft for review!" button, which will put your draft through the articles for creation process. And, yes, all edits you make count towards the autoconfirmed flag. Eman235/talk 06:03, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

paid contributions

Hi, I'm working on Leandro Soto's page, and I have edited my own page to say that I'm not inserting any of my own opinions, just copying his shows, etc. Leandro has offered to give me a small remuneration for my efforts. I'm trying to insert the template for paid contributions, but I get this: "Paid contributions Due to missing TemplateData, parameters for this template have been auto-generated. Please be aware that they may not be accurate." I see that other people have used the $ sign, but I don't know how to do it. Some advice would be welcome. --Lauraj210 (talk) 17:50, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

@Lauraj210: The template you used is for an unpaid connected contributor. Sounds like what you want is the Template:Connected contributor (paid) template. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:44, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Tim -- Does this satisfy?

"$ Lauraj210 (talk - contribs) has been paid by Leandro Soto on their behalf. I'm here at the request of Leandro Soto to edit his page. I'm only referring to Leandro's CV for information, and nowhere in his page have I interjected my own thoughts or opinions." I'm a little confused by 'employer', because while it's required, there is no employer, so I just typed in Leandro's name twice, but it's a little awkward.Lauraj210 (talk) 19:18, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

The employer is whoever pays you, regardless if it's just once or an ongoing thing. You can play around with the template and save it when you are happy with it. A word of caution - we wouldn't just cut and paste a resume, because it's an unreliable source. The info that is added to a bio should include reliable third party sources. A minor press clipping announcing an exhibition will often suffice. But even more importantly, since you are a connected contributor, you should ask others to help you with the edits, so a more experienced person can make sure the changes maintain the standards of the encyclopedia. To do this, use Template:Request edit. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:29, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Leandro Soto is the article in question. David notMD (talk) 20:02, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Tim and David. When I first started editing Leandro's page, I got considerable help from DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs; he pointed me in the right directions regarding citations, etc., and satisfied himself regarding the conflict of interest. I appreciate your input, and have published, on my own page, this:

"Lauraj210, USAUnited_States I'm here at the request of Leandro Soto to edit his page. I'm only referring to Leandro's CV for information, and nowhere in his page have I my own thoughts or opinions. The Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use require that editors disclose their "employer, client, and affiliation" with respect to any paid contribution; see WP:PAID. For advice about reviewing paid contributions, see WP:COIRESPONSE. Lauraj210 (talk · contribs) has been paid by Leandro Soto."

I assume this is okay.

Correction: My page reads:

"lauraj210, USAUnited_States I'm here at the request of Leandro Soto to edit his page. I'm only referring to Leandro's CV for information, and nowhere in his page have I INTERJECTED my own thoughts or opinions.

The Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use require that editors disclose their "employer, client, and affiliation" with respect to any paid contribution; see WP:PAID. For advice about reviewing paid contributions, see WP:COIRESPONSE. Lauraj210 (talk · contribs) has been paid by Leandro Soto."Lauraj210 (talk) 21:49, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi laura210. Although your COI/PAID declaration seems OK (at least as I see it), you bcould also simply add the template {{Paid}} to your user page if you want. You should also add the template {{Connected contributor (paid)}} to bottom of the talk page headers (i.e. below the WikiProject banners, etc. but above the first discussion thread) of the article talk pages of any articles you're being paid to edit.

Finally, I don't think Leandro's CV is going to really be considered a reliable source for Wikipedia purposes. Some might consider it to be a primary source, but even in that case it's usability as a source would be highly restricted per WP:BLPSELFPUB and WP:BLPPRIMARY. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:22, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Marchjuly, Thank you! I did put the {{Paid}} on my user page. I also took out 'CV' and replaced it with "I'm only referring to Leandro's shows, interviews and books (all referenced) for information, and nowhere in his page have I interjected my own thoughts or opinions." (CV was too confusing.)

As far as the talk pages, you are talking about the "User talk:Lauraj210", right? There are no Wikiproject banners (they are on the user page), but I put the {{Connected contributor (paid)}} at the bottom (edit: Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure) but before the discussion threads. (I still get "The Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use require that editors disclose their "employer, client, and affiliation" with respect to any paid contribution; see WP:PAID. For advice about reviewing paid contributions, see WP:COIRESPONSE. Lauraj210 (talk · contribs) has been paid by Leandro Soto on their behalf. This wording is very awkward, but it'll do, right?) I hope this is the correct place to put it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎ Lauraj210 (talk • contribs) 03:22, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi again Lauraj210. Template:Connected contributor (paid) is supposed to be used on article talk pages, not your user talk page. Another editor has already done that for you at Talk:Leandro Soto, but the template is still only partially completed; you can fill in the missing parameters by following the instructions on the template's page. Click the "Edit" tab (not the "New section" tab) at the top of the talk page and find the template in the editing window, then add the missing/incomplete information.

Unrelated to this but also important is to try and remember to WP:SIGN you're talk page posts; signing your posts makes it easier for others to see who posted and when they posted. If you're not sure how to sign your posts, please take a look at WP:TILDE. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:01, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi again Marchjuly, Thanks for clarifying. I edited the Talk:Leandro Soto page to reflect employer and client (I still get paid by Leandro Soto on their behalf...)

No need to refer me to WP:TILDE. I know how to do it...it's late here and I'm very tired -- I forgot, please forgive me! Lauraj210 (talk) 06:40, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Edit Bao Tieu

Just wondered if someone could help me finish off my page as i am new and struggling to finish the last areas that need work.

thanks

Courtesy link for interested editors: Draft:Bao Tieu Draft has been rejected. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 08:35, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

The draft has been declined not rejected, which means you can continue working on it, adding more reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 08:48, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

How to fill color in wikitables?

Hello guys. Can you tell me how to fill color in wiki tables? Kindly Lakshmisreekanth (talk) 10:25, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

See MOS:COLOUR and Help:Table. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:30, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Sure, there's a lot of info here Help:Introduction_to_tables_with_Wiki_Markup/5 but, in short, you need to add a style="" attribute to the cell you want to fill with color, if there isn't one already. Within that, you can put various style attibutes, but the one you need is background: . That can be followed with either a simple color, e.g. background: yellow or a hex code, such as background: #FFFF33. Hug^syrup 10:34, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Submit an article for review

I created a new article and wanted to submit it for review. I used the article wizard and just published the changes one I was finished. Now I can see the article as under /wiki/Draft:MyArticle, but I don't know if it is actually pending review or not. Does anyone know if it is pending review or how I can submit it for review? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ls.EsbenD (talk • contribs)

No, unless you specifically requested it. Ruslik_Zero 07:54, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Please, Wikipedia:Articles for creation for details. Ruslik_Zero 07:57, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

@Ls.EsbenD:, I assume you are talking about Draft:SWAPGS (security vulnerability)? If so, this has not been submitted, but all you need to do if you think it is ready for review is paste {{subst:submit}} at the top of your draft. Hug^syrup 08:43, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

You have four in-text hyperlinks that should be removed. Also, with a ref to support AMD not being vulnerable, there is not need to quote a website which states that AMD is not vulnerable. Instead, make that a ref without the quote. David notMD (talk) 12:04, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Multiple pages merging into one.

For a few months now I have suggested that Sapper and Pioneer (military) merge into combat engineer. What version of the merge tag can I put on combat engineer to reflect that I want two pages to be merged into it? --Puzzledvegetable^{Is it teatime already?} 13:12, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

You use this template: {{Merge from |OtherPage1 |OtherPage2 |OtherPage3 |discuss=Talk:OtherPage#Merge discussion |date=August 2019}} With 'Otherpage1/2/3' as the various source pages. Hug^syrup 13:32, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Publishing Bacterial Species I personally Discovered

Hi there,

Brand new to Wikipedia page editing/publishing and have a bit of a tricky one for the community!

I am a postdoctoral researcher (PhD; Microbiology) and during my last position I discovered a novel species, which recently, has officially been recognised by the IJSEM (governing body) and more generally (woohoo! :P). The bacteria itself is named Pseudomonas laurentiana and I happened to stumble across the Pseudomonas genus on Wiki where it lists all discovered species.

What I wanted to do was make a page about Pseudomonas laurentiana and have it also appear within the Pseudomonas genus page. It would be all factual and nothing to do with me personally as the discoverer, I just want to increase what is available online - plus it's a neat little bacteria.

So my questions are:

1) Do I have a conflict of interest in writing about this bacteria as the discoverer, even though it would be purely factual?

2) Is this worthy of inclusion into Wikipedia? Based on the genus being present and the other species, I instinctively think so - but there might be something I'm overlooking.

3) As the original discoverer, I have multiple electron microscopy images available that I own the copyright to and would love to include should it be Wikipedia worthy. Given the copyright concerns Wikipedia has as a whole, how would I go about donating an image or two for this?

If [1] is an issue but it is worth including in Wikipedia, I welcome anyone wanting to write the page. For this purpose, and to give you some information, here are some sources (with explanation).

1) Original Published Paper (as .pdf link)

2) Acknowledgement by the IJSEM as a novel species. Quick explanation: Novel bacteria can be published in whatever journal authors desire (sometimes others are more practical because more data is to be included also) but if so, said authors need to submit all the required documentation/proof to the IJSEM before it is validated. These period articles such as the one listed validate species that have been sent into them.

3) NamesForLife organism database entry

4) NRBC Culture Collection (Japan) where Pseudomonas laurentiana is deposited

5) JCM Culture Collection (Japan) where Pseudomonas laurentiana is deposited

6) DSMZ (Germany) Document Highlighting List of Validly Published Microorganisms March 2019 — Preceding unsigned comment added by MitchellWrightPhD (talk • contribs)

Hi MitchellWrightPhD, and welcome to Wikipedia. And, thank you for checking up on these things before going ahead with an article. I'll try to answer your questions:

1. You do have a conflict of interest; but if you go carefully it shouldn't be a problem. The subject doesn't look controversial. It would be better to avoid citing your own own papers; but in the circumstances that may be inevitable.
2. Yes. Wikipedia:Notability_(natural_sciences)#Living_things says "All species of animal, plant, fungus, and microorganisms (including bacteria, viruses, and protozoa) are notable".
3. To donate images in which you own the copyright, go to Wikimedia Commons and follow the instructions there, making it clear that you hold the copyright because you took the pictures yourself. This will allow them to be used on all Wikipedias, not just this English-language one. Maproom (talk) 06:24, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi MitchellWrightPhD, just to add a bit to Maproom's reply. Most bacteria articles follow a fairly standard format. As a non-expert editor I find it easiest to basically copy an article within the same genus and then simply change all the relevant bits. I've take a look at the sources you've listed above, they look solid, so that's 3/4 of the potential issues already solved. Peer-reviewed scientific publications are the "gold standard" of sources, which in this case also solves most of your COI, provided you don't add any unpublished information. There is some useful general advice at Help:Wikipedia editing for research scientists. Welcome on board! Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:47, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Also, MitchellWrightPhD, congratulations on your discovery! Happy editing! Schazjmd (talk) 13:59, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

how can i help the world to discover more ?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.215.251.233 (talk • contribs)

More about what, exactly? Hug^syrup 14:13, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

New article

Hi all I'm new in wikipedia, how to create a new article?

• Adambamba (talk)

@Adambamba: - I suggest you read this page, which has lots of information about what do to, both from a technical point of view, but also how to make sure your article meets our critera to be included: Help:Your first article Hug^syrup 15:06, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Magnetoceptor

RockMagnetist<<<This is an editor for Wikipedia.

I would like my article submitted to this editor if I could please? I believe if anyone he/she will appreciate it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Frogger11.mr/sandbox

The draft in your sandbox has been rejected (this is more than declined). Wikipedia has no place for original research. As an encyclopedia, articles exist because the topics have ben written about in published, reliable sources. Please do not resubmit. And please do not pose questions in more than one place. I hope this rejection does not preclude your editing existing articles, and in time finding a valid topic for a new article. David notMD (talk) 15:21, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

How to cite Wikisource inline?

Hello, I am trying to add Wikisource citation to following excerpt The Merchant Shipping Act of 1867 required all ships of the Royal Navy and Merchant Navy to provide a daily lime ration to sailors to prevent scurvy.

in the this page.

When I use the citation template, it comes the following way inline. I am not sure, if this is the way to go about it. Or should I use the journal/website template instead?

The Merchant Shipping Act of 1867 required all ships of the Royal Navy and Merchant Navy to provide a daily lime ration to sailors to prevent scurvy.Merchant Shipping Act 1867  – via Wikisource.

Another question is - I want to cite point no 5 in 4th section. Can I be that specific to help the readers?

Thanks for answering! Adiosvr (talk) 03:51, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Adithyavr, I think you are talking about the page, Scurvy, right? Did you check out Template:Citation yet? It has all the parameters that you can add and explains what each of them does. I think all other templates are children to this one. So, I reckon whatever you can do with any other citation template, you can do with this one. I have been using this since I first saw it used for everything in a featured article. It has parameters like chapter, page, pages, section, etc. I think "at=" can be used for anything that isn't covered by those. Have a look at that template page and see which ones fit best.

The citations appear as numbers in brackets in superscripts, and the sources are listed in the footnotes/references section linked with those numbers. Although there is nothing wrong with other citation formats, we must strive to make all citations across the same page consistent. When you start editing, just look at the other citations and follow suit. If you are confused and can't figure out a way to have the citation appear like all the others, you can always press Ctrl+Shift+K or hit the "Cite" button at the top of the edit window and just give it a link/url and let it decide whatever citation format it chooses. You can also put this same question at the article's talk page and let other editors, who have been working on the article already, help you. Good luck! Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 12:32, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

UsedtobecoolYes, you are right. I just looked at Template:Cite_wikisource again. It looks like the example I mentioned is no longer used. Adiosvr (talk) 15:57, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Work on multiple new pages at the same time

Am I allowed to work on and submit multiple different pages at the same time or just one at a time, wait 2 months for the approval and work on submitting the next? If I can work on other ones how do I add a new one to Sandbox?

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by DocNerd3000 (talk • contribs)

@DocNerd3000: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. There is no limit on the number of drafts you may create and submit at one time, nor do you have to wait for one to be approved before you create another; however, you may find it helpful to wait until your first draft is approved before you write others, so you don't make the same mistakes several times. 331dot (talk) 16:32, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Userpage help

So I started my Wikipedia userpage yesterday and I've read about what may and may not go on a userpage. However, I do not fully understand what should go on a userpage in general (probably as a result of me being shy in general). Could someone point me to what is recommended to be on there in general, please? StrangerCoug (talk) 16:11, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

@StrangerCoug: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your user page is a place for you to introduce yourself to the Wikipedia community in the context of your Wikipedia editing or use. Some users put their areas of editing interest, what they want to do on Wikipedia in general, tell a little bit about themselves, things like that. Some also use it to store links that they find useful for themselves. You can look at other people's user pages to get an idea of what they do with them. Also keep in mind that there is no requirement to have a user page, or to have anything on it. Many users spend years here without ever creating a user page, and others simply redirect it to their user talk page. 331dot (talk) 16:15, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

You could also have some useful Wikipedia-related links on it- see the "Useful links" section on my userpage. TheAwesomeHwyh 17:04, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Oh- whoops I just re-read what 331dot said and they had mentioned that before. Oh well, its worth saying twice. TheAwesomeHwyh 17:04, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Hotcat

How do some people know so many categories? Is there like a list or a trick?

   - Antonín Leopold Dvořák (talk) 17:54, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Antonín Leopold Dvořák, welcome to the Teahouse. Since you mentioned it, HotCat actually gives autocompleted suggestions for categories as one types. More generally, though, categories are pretty consistently named, and it is fairly easy to guess what categories might exist (again, HotCat will indicate whether a category exists or not). Eman235/talk 18:13, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

You can also get a list of all categories using Special:AllPages, and search through them using Special:Search. Eman235/talk 18:27, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Neologism

ne·ol·o·gism - a newly coined word or expression

How can I overcome this judgement? I do not agree because there is a wealth of writing establishing the word. If notable publications and research institutions are using it, why is my article getting denied. The term is "Bioelectronic Medicine". What can I do to prove or establish the legitimacy of the term?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Cameronwillis (talk • contribs)

@Cameronwillis: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You are free to edit your draft and resubmit it if you can offer the independent reliable sources that establish or indicate that the term is in widespread use; this would include sources outside of niche publications. 331dot (talk) 16:30, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

I got the draft Draft:Bioelectronic Medicine closer to Wikipedia format, but needs more references. David notMD (talk) 19:41, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Making edits to a living person's existing bio

HI, I was hoping to make edits to Raji Arasu's bio as there are many links that are broken/obsolete. What is the best way to go about this? I started making edits yesterday and was promptly sent a message that I might be vandalizing her bio. I certainly don't want to vandalize her profile--rather, remove broken links and point to live links. I can try my next edits in sandbox, but want to make sure I am making edits correctly. Thanks.

August 2019 Information icon Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute positively to the encyclopedia, at least one of your recent edits did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. Please refrain from vandalizing articles, as you did at Raji Arasu. If you wish to experiment, please use the sandbox instead. Continued disruption may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 00:24, 8 August 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lauren Hasenhuttl (talk • contribs) 20:35, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Courtesy: Article in question is Raji Arasu. When refs no longer work, you are supposed to try to repair them, not remove them. As best I can see, you did not attempt to fix or provide replacement refs. Also, if a ref is used multiple times (a,b,c...) and you remove this ref content that provides all of the refs' information, you "break" the other uses of the same ref, causing red error messages in the refs list. David notMD (talk) 22:07, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Is it okay to use stuff from Sci-Hub or similar sites in citations on Wikipedia?

I was wondering because I recently found it and it's super great and useful and all, but I think it might be violating copyright or whatever in a few countries. So I just wanted to know, when I cite something in an article, if it's against the rules to use a link to it on Sci-hub in the bit where you put the link to the paper into (oh god sorry for the terrible wording).

Thanks, sorry for any inconvenience. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Watermelon-lemon (talk • contribs) 05:25, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Watermelon-lemon. We shouldn't link to sites that are violating copyright, as is explained at WP:COPYLINKS, and if the Wikipedia article on Sci-Hub is correct, it sounds like it does indeed violate copyright rules. Personally, the only link I include when citing scholarly articles is the DOI. Cordless Larry (talk) 06:46, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

If I understand it correctly, of course we would not reference/link to Sci-Hub. But references do not need to have a url, so you can cite the article you found there, if you think it's a good idea. I feel I should now link the Wikipedia:Legal disclaimer. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:18, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Biography Picture upload

Hallo Good friends ? I have a problem when i try to upload a picture on a draft am working on ,it keeps being rejected reason being it cannot be authenticated yet its my own shot photo — Preceding unsigned comment added by SAMUEL WIKI EDITOR (talk • contribs) 05:49, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello SAMUEL WIKI EDITOR, and welcome to the Teahouse. About the photo, did you try to upload it here? If the photo is your own work, that is the right place. If it's not, the phtographer must upload it/release it themselves. However, your draft Draft:Brian Kabugi will not be accepted as an article unless you have and add references which shows WP:GNG. Help at Help:Referencing for beginners. Good luck! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:10, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks alot (talk) let me try , i will request for help if i have other troubles — Preceding unsigned comment added by SAMUEL WIKI EDITOR (talk • contribs) 07:26, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Pages vs articles

hii, how to create page in wikipedia? difference between page and airtcles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gtamildpt (talk • contribs) 07:39, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Gtamildpt and welcome to the Teahouse. The only "pages" in Wikipedia are user pages and talk pages, and these don't need references. The Wikipedia encyclopaedia consists of "articles" which are summaries of WP:Reliable sources. If you wish to create an article, see WP:Your first article, and start collecting sources. The article that you have started in your sandbox needs references. Is it about deserts, desert birds or the Cactus Wren? Dbfirs 08:04, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Weird redirect

Hi, I don't know where to report this, so maybe one of you here could report or fix it. I was looking to see if there was a Wikipedia article on a magazine called The Manager, and "The Manager" redirects inexplicably to a Lebanese-American bomber. This doesn't seem right, particularly since there is no mention of that word in the article. Gillywell (talk) 08:08, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

• Thanks for pointing out that redirect; indeed, there should be some mention of the term at the target article of a redirect. I found a (non-Wikipedia mirror) source that lists that as one of that person's aliases: [1], and will add it shortly. (If others think the redirect should be deleted or retargeted, feel free to do so.) Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 08:17, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Kris T Reeder is a notable trombonist - sources to verify

Hi guys,

Currently writing up Kris T Reeder and included all of the relevant articles, citations etc. Hopefully it'll sail through. He's worked with some of the top Improvisors in the UK and his work is expansive and notable.

Can someone explain to me why he wouldn't qualify for an article?

Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jazzreviewers111 (talk • contribs) 20:31, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

The draft Draft:Kris T Reeder was rejected yesterday, has been significantly made longer and resubmitted. Dan arndt explained why some of the refs not considered good citations. And P.S., we are not all guys. David notMD (talk) 21:48, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

"In plural, guys is not completely gender-neutral but it may refer to people of either sex in some circumstances and forms; the greeting “Hey guys”, or any vocative utterance, can generally refer to people of either gender. Referring to a group as “guys” usually means a group of men or a mixed-gender group." (Wiktionary) Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:36, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

The Shadow of the Wind entry (Carlos Ruiz Zafon), two names not correctly spelled

Having just finished The Shadow of the Wind and having the book in front of me, I want to inform you that two of the names in your entry are misspelled, essentially because they do not have the proper diacritical markings. They are Fermín and (Mount) Montjuïc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clsmith65 (talk • contribs) 11:23, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Courtesy The Shadow of the Wind is the article. David notMD (talk) 11:47, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Fixed Fermín. David notMD (talk) 12:26, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

The Prisoner of Heaven entry (Carlos Ruiz Zafon), three names are not correctly spelled

Having just finished The Prisoner of Heaven and having the book in front of me, I want to inform you that three of the names in your entry are misspelled, essentially because they do not have the proper diacritical markings. They are Fermín, (David) Martín, and Julián. Fermín is correct at one reference and not others. The others do not have the correct diacritical marks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clsmith65 (talk • contribs) 11:20, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia is "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit", so you can correct the article yourself. Note for future questions that it is helpful if you include a wikilink to the article in question. Also (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.). - David Biddulph (talk) 11:30, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Courtesy The Prisoner of Heaven is the article. David notMD (talk) 11:46, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Fixed Fermín, and some other minor edits. David notMD (talk) 12:32, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

I fixed a dead reference but my edit was removed.

Hi, I just created an account after seeing that a reference in an article (Don't Hug Me I'm Scared, Citation 19) was no longer online. I replaced the citation with a source that was online, but my edit was undone because it was 'not constructive.' Admittedly, fixing a reference is a very small change to an article, but surely it is better to have a citation that is up to date than just a placeholder?

My real question is: What was it I did wrong, and how could I have made my contribution more constructive? Thanks, --Nealrussell (talk) 19:10, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Pinging Kirbanzo, the reverting editor, so they can answer here. --CiaPan (talk) 19:27, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Kirbanzo should not have reverted you edit without an edit summary. But you too, you should not be replacing deadlinks with different links, that does more harm than good because it sever Wikipedia content with its actual source and that in turns affect veracity of our articles. What we do with deadlinks is to look for archive of the now-non reachable content (and there are several bots doing that work too). If you must replace a deadlink entirely, then you must completely rewrite the content it supports so as to align with what's actually in your new source. That however is not needed most of the time, finding the archived version is better. – Ammarpad (talk) 19:52, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

@Nealrussell: I added an active Internet Archive link for the dead source link. As mentioned, web.archive.org or similar archiving sites are usually the best way to restore a valid dead source for existing content. You'll find some additional information and tips about this aspect at Wikipedia:DEADLINK. But please feel free to ask here again if you have further questions. GermanJoe (talk) 20:14, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

 Self-trout Should have mentioned that "the preferable option to replacing the reference is using the archive of the dead reference instead". I apologize. Kirbanzo ^{(userpage - talk - contribs)} 13:33, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Daniel Boone Series

I enjoy the series of Daniel Boone, will there be any series in the near future ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:481:8400:4680:49A3:3897:C657:A83B (talk) 18:00, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello IP editor. The Teahouse is here to help editors wanting to create or improve the articles here, not to answer general knowledge questions. Maybe you could try a Google search, or check out any related Wikipedia articles we may have? These pages will have links to sources which might contain the information you seek. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 18:33, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

The many Enoch Trains

Summary

I've begun working on three articles, one of which I submitted last night and has been rejected for insufficient sources, if I understand correctly. I'm wondering if maybe I should combine all three into a single article.

Origin

I've been doing genealogical research and stumbled upon a reference to "Enoch Train" as a clipper ship that carried emigrants from Liverpool, UK, to Boston, US. I thought that was an odd name for a ship and started trying to find out more. So I started with a google search and followed the link to Wikipedia and found CSS_Manassas a steam ship. Further searching turned up several more "Enoch Trains:"

All the Enoch Trains

1. The man, Enoch Train founder of Train & Co. and the White Diamond Line, and a Colonel
2. The company Enoch Train & Co. a Boston based shipping company.
3. The first ship named Enoch Train, by George Francis Train, Enoch's nephew, and almost immediately renamed Sovereign of the Seas (clipper)
4. The second ship named Enoch Train, a Clipper that made at least one voyage from Boston to Liverpool, then returned with emigrants.
5. The third ship named Enoch Train, a steam powered ice breaker that was renamed CSS Manassas.
6. The folk band Enoch Train which was active from 1998 through about 2006.

Documenting Enoch Train

I see see three potential articles, plus the existing CSS Manassas article. One about the man and his companies. One about the Clipper, with mention of the of the Sovereign of the Seas (and an edit of that article to mention it's first name,) and a final article about the band.

I've written up some basic information on the band and submitted it, but it has been rejected. I'll add some more information and references, their European tour, their awards. Maybe that'll be enough to make it an acceptable article.

Is there a recommended way to cover this information?

Redbeardatxmission (talk) 14:33, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Redbeardatxmission, my advice would be to start with the most promising subject, and work entirely on that until you've achieved an acceptable article. You'll then be in a better position to decide what to do next. My guess is that the man is the best subject to start with. I'm not surprised that your article on the band was rejected – Wikipedia is flooded with articles on marginally notable, and non-notable, bands. I'd do the band last, if at all. Maproom (talk) 20:35, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Maproom, Thanks for your suggestions. I'll work on Col. Train's article.

Creative Commons License

So I've tried several ways to upload images that are my own work, or the work of other people on my team, and we share all copyrights, but Wikipedia keeps denying that I have a right to use these images. It's incredibly frustrating because Wikipedia suggests that I am doing something illegal. And I don't see any way to dispute this claim. One image is literally the logo that appears at the bottom of my emails. Others have been directly from my camera. What's up with that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SL2Connect (talk • contribs) 19:18, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

@SL2Connect: You should be able to upload your own work, as long as you assign the proper copyright. Are you using the upload wizard? What feedback are you getting? (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:26, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

@Timtempleton: Cheers. It took a couple of tries but using the retry option finally worked. Strange that images directly from my photo gallery have trouble at all. I guess it's all about being cautious. SL2Connect (talk) 19:54, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

"Cautious" is the word. If I upload an image to my own website without due attention to copyright, probably no-one will notice, if they do they probably won't care, and at worst I'll get a cease-and-desist notice and take it down. But Wikipedia, with millions of articles and many millions of readers, can't afford to behave like that. Maproom (talk) 20:44, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Simon Vance article is back

At least one article on Simon Vance was deleted in the past, but there is a new one. I would like help it sink or swim. Is it possible to view deletion discussions so I can know why the article(s)was/were deleted so I can see what the concerns were then (especially if notability was one) and whether this article is different enough? If not, what suggestions do you have for improving the article? There is some decent content in there, but it's a bit of puff and I feel it is too much of a list of awards and somewhat promotional. But that is just my take. Thanks.--DiamondRemley39 (talk) 14:10, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

The article was speedy deleted two times: the first one, in 2018, was because it was an attack page. The second deletion was a combined G11/G12 deletion, because the article was essentially a (spammy) copyright violation. No discussions as such took place. Lectonar (talk) 14:20, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

You can view the Deletion Log here. Regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 14:42, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks to you both, @Willbb234: and @Lectonar: I checked the log and the wayback machine and it appears that the version that is up now has come from the deleted article. I saw that the article was written by an account that primarily edits the pages of audiobook narrators. It appears the editor is a marketing consultant; I linked to this on the article's talk page. I checked the criteria and nominated it for speedy deletion. Then I heard from the editor; the editor seems to have done it in good faith, and asked for my help, which I would like to give. I removed the speedy deletion template. But I am unsure how to proceed now. Could someone with experience in this area please tell me whether it should be nominated for deletion so other editors can contribute to this decision or if it is okay to improve an article when the bulk of its content was resurrected from a speedily deleted article? Thanks.--DiamondRemley39 (talk) 20:17, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

You might like to direct the user to the Teahouse or Help Desk where they can receive help from experienced editors. Alternatively, you can direct the user to policies such as WP:NPOV or WP:ADVERT where they can read up on how promotional content is dealt with on Wikipedia. I would also advise removing the promotional content (of which there seems a lot in the second half of the article) yourself and explain why you did it to the user, so they can also make appropriate changes. If they are unwilling to remove/change content, then that is the time to start a deletion discussion which can be done using Twinkle or manually at WP:AFD. Regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 21:31, 9 August 2019 (UTC)