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WPF1 Newsletter (March)

The WikiProject Formula One Newsletter Year V · Issue 3 · March 5, 2012 – April 2, 2012 Previous month's issue
New users New members – Makheras (talk · contribs) (March 19) Mercotus (talk · contribs) (March 20) New recipients – New editors – WikiProject news Check out Apterygial's My Insane Idea userproject, which aims to improve the 2008 Formula One season article and that season's Grands Prix to Featured Topic status. Newsletter news	Article developments Formula One articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total FA 3 3 7 13 FL 1 2 1 4 A 2 2 GA 3 6 10 6 25 B 18 27 39 48 132 C 6 32 43 92 173 Start 16 102 182 661 961 Stub 19 129 1,522 1,670 List 3 8 16 6 33 Category 387 387 Disambig 8 8 Portal 35 35 Project 67 67 Redirect 14 14 Template 161 161 NA 34 34 Assessed 50 199 429 2,335 707 0 3,720 Unassessed 1 1 Total 50 199 429 2,335 707 1 3,721 See also: Wikipedia:WikiProject Formula One/Article alerts Deletions – 2014 Formula One season List of drivers who have raced in Formula One, IndyCar and NASCAR
Editors' Comment Users are always welcome to help us with this newsletter. If you are interested, please leave a message on an existing editor's talkpage or sign up on the "Contributors" list of the central newsletter page, and we will tell you everything you need to know and answer your questions. Current contributors – Midgrid (talk · contribs) Cs-wolves (talk · contribs) Chubbennaitor (talk · contribs) How to help WPF1 – Expand the articles in Category:Formula One stubs. Read the project to-do list and help to complete the tasks: Article requests: Alf Francis ([1]), Daniele Coronna, Hans Fouche, Chris Radage, Steve Tarrant, Intertechnique, Elf Masters Copyedit: Bahrain Grand Prix, History of Formula One, Monaco Grand Prix, 2006 San Marino Grand Prix, Rob White (Formula One), Rob Smedley Expand: F1-X Dubai, Honda RA271, Paddy Lowe, Red Bull RB3, Spyker F1, Toyota TF107, BMW Sauber F1.07, Mario Theissen, Franz Tost, Chinese Grand Prix, Colin Kolles, Concorde Agreement, Formula One Constructors Association, McLaren MP4/1, Ove Andersson, Bob Bell, Korean International Circuit, Grand Prix Drivers' Association, Spyker F8-VII, Arai (company), Shoei, Schuberth Helme GmbH, Bell Racing Company, Jim Bamber, Nazir Hoosein, Formula One video games, Make Cars Green, Jonathan Legard, Michael Turner (illustrator) more Update: History of Formula One, 2011 Brazilian Grand Prix, Robert Doornbos, Formula One regulations, 2024 Formula One season, Scuderia Toro Rosso, Super Aguri F1, Divina Galica, Grand Prix World Championship Images needed: Max Mosley, Sakon Yamamoto, Jordan Grand Prix circa 1992-1997, Paddy Lowe, 2008 Turkish Grand Prix more For more work, see this generated list or the Auxiliary list
Images Below is the F1 Picture of the month (found here). The picture has to be one uploaded in the last month and only from the current season. It is exclusive to the Newsletter. REMEMBER, YOU CAN VOTE. The start of the Malaysian Grand Prix; Lewis Hamilton leads Jenson Button and Romain Grosjean et al. into the first corner. New images 2012
Article of the month – 2012 Australian Grand Prix 250px|right The 2012 Australian Grand Prix (formally, the 2012 Formula 1 Qantas Australian Grand Prix) was a Formula One motor race held on 18 March 2012 as the opening round of the 2012 Formula One season. It was the 77th race in the combined history of the Australian Grand Prix that dates back to the 100 Miles Road Race of 1928, and the 17th time the event has been held at the Melbourne Grand Prix Circuit at Albert Park. The race, contested over 58 laps, was won by McLaren driver Jenson Button who took his third victory at the Albert Park Circuit. Reigning Double World Champion Sebastian Vettel, driving for Red Bull Racing, finished in second place, while polesitter and McLaren teammate Lewis Hamilton completed the podium. Australian Mark Webber was fourth, his best result in his home grand prix. (More...)
Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points 1st Fernando Alonso Ferrari 35 2nd Lewis Hamilton McLaren 30 3rd Jenson Button McLaren 25 4th Mark Webber Red Bull 24 5th Sergio Pérez Sauber 22 6th Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 18 7th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 16 8th Bruno Senna Williams 8 9th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 8 10th Paul di Resta Force India 7 11th Jean-Éric Vergne Toro Rosso 4 12th Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 2 13th Nico Hülkenberg Force India 2 14th Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1 15th Nico Rosberg Mercedes 0 16th Pastor Maldonado Williams 0 17th Timo Glock Marussia 0 18th Charles Pic Marussia 0 19th Felipe Massa Ferrari 0 20th Vitaly Petrov Caterham 0 21st Heikki Kovalainen Caterham 0 22nd Narain Karthikeyan HRT 0 23rd Pedro de la Rosa HRT 0 Romain Grosjean Lotus 0 Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Entered Chassis Points 1st Vodafone McLaren Mercedes MP4-27 55 2nd Red Bull Racing RB8 42 3rd Scuderia Ferrari F2012 35 4th Sauber F1 Team C31 30 5th Lotus F1 Team E20 16 6th Sahara Force India F1 Team VJM05 9 7th Williams F1 Team FW34 8 8th Scuderia Toro Rosso STR7 6 9th Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team F1 W03 1 10th Marussia F1 Team MR01 0 11th Caterham F1 Team CT01 0 12th HRT F1 Team F112 0 See 2012 Formula One season for more information
Australian Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Jenson Button McLaren 1:34:09.565 2nd Sebastian Vettel Red Bull + 2.139 3rd Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 4.075 4th Mark Webber Red Bull + 4.547 5th Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 21.565 6th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber + 36.766 7th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 38.014 8th Sergio Pérez Sauber + 39.458 9th Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso + 39.556 10th Paul di Resta Force India + 39.737 Fastest Lap: Jenson Button 1:29.187, on lap 56 Australian Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:24.922 Jenson Button McLaren 1:25.074 Row two Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:25.302 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:25.336 Row three Mark Webber Red Bull 1:25.651 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:25.668 Row four Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:25.686 Pastor Maldonado Williams 1:25.908 Row five Nico Hülkenberg Force India 1:26.451 Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso No time* * Ricciardo did not complete a flying lap in the third part of qualifying. Friday Practice 1 – McLaren set the Melbourne standard Friday Practice 2 – Schumacher tops unsettled session Saturday Practice – Hamilton pips Grosjean Qualifying – Hamilton heads McLaren one-two Race – Button proves untouchable in Melbourne
Malaysian Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Fernando Alonso Ferrari 2:44:51.8121 2nd Sergio Pérez Sauber + 2.263 3rd Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 14.591 4th Mark Webber Red Bull + 17.688 5th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 29.456 6th Bruno Senna Williams + 37.667 7th Paul di Resta Force India + 44.412 8th Jean-Éric Vergne Toro Rosso + 46.985 9th Nico Hülkenberg Force India + 47.892 10th Michael Schumacher Mercedes + 49.996 Fastest Lap: Kimi Räikkönen 1:40.722, on lap 53 Malaysian Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:36.219 Jenson Button McLaren 1:36.368 Row two Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:36.391 Mark Webber Red Bull 1:36.461 Row three Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:36.634 Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:36.658 Row four Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:36.664 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:37.566 Row five Sergio Pérez Sauber 1:37.698 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 1:36.461* 1 – Total time includes time elapsed under red flag conditions. * Räikkönen was given a five-place grid penalty for a gearbox change after the second practice session. Raikkonen facing five-place grid penalty Friday Practice 1 – Hamilton stakes claim at Sepang Friday Practice 2 – Hamilton stays on top for McLaren Saturday Practice – Rosberg flies for Mercedes Qualifying – Hamilton beats Button to Sepang pole Race – Alonso holds off stellar Perez for Sepang victory

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Talk:2011 Giro d'Italia/GA1

Since I see you are addressing the third nomination, I felt it necessary to keep you busy. ;) I've reviewed Green-eyed Girl's nomination, and per her request, am notifying you. Cheers! Resolute 04:29, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

And I have passed the third team article. One more to go! Resolute 17:26, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Yup, changes to the Giro article looks good. I've passed it as well. Congrats!, and pass my congratulations on to Green Eyed Girl if you still communicate with her. Regards, Resolute 01:07, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Appreciate the barnstar, thanks! Resolute 13:06, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Re:April 2012

Sorry...thanks for notice. --Jorjum (talk) 10:24, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

An award for you

Golden Wiki Award You are among the top 5% of most active Wikipedians this past month! 66.87.7.126 (talk) 23:38, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Team Europcar 2011 season page

you guys are doing a great job on that- however are you planning on integrating any of it into the main Team Europcar page? At this point its much shorter and less helpful than this season 2011 page you're working on. Summaries from the pertinent sections of the season page would really help flesh it out. But either way you've made a really detailed and helpful page. 67.204.182.18 (talk) 20:22, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

I am the principal author of that article (which I mention for no other reason than to explain why I'm replying to something on someone else's talk page). There's absolutely nothing wrong with copying and pasting prose among Wikipedia articles, except for redundancy. So I wouldn't lift all of it, but a suitable summary with a link to the season page is a great idea. You could put it with the 2011 results (or...replace that section entirely. God, WP:CYC loves rote lists). You might look at an article like Cervélo TestTeam to see how their 2009 season is integrated (I should really go back and do 2010 and a final update to that article). Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 02:00, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Hey

I'm gonna be around for a bit. I'm a little surprised you still have the checklist, over on your userpage. I'm gonna try to knock off the 2011 articles for RadioShack, Leopard Trek, Movistar, and Omega Pharma-Lotto. I don't think I want to do any other 2011 articles. I might try some of the woefully incomplete 2010 articles afterward when next I show up. Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 02:00, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

How do you do it?!? I'm back three days and I already feel like every synapse in my brain is on fire. Yet you make hundreds of edits a day...oy. If you ever burn out, the project will have lost a major asset. Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 20:27, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

WikiThanks

WikiThanks

In recognition of all the work you’ve done lately! 67.80.64.128 (talk) 22:56, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

I just saw your recent updates in Sergio Pérez's page, and I wanted to thank you. I don't know very much about car racing, since I'm barely a recent fan. Keep it up! ComputerJA (talk) 07:28, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

IP edits

Thanks for reverting all those IP edits. DH85868993 (talk) 03:10, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

He's getting pretty busy - I've reverted maybe a hundred yesterday and today. I've reported him, let's see what happens! Bretonbanquet (talk) 17:48, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Absolutely - and he's still going. Warnings don't seem to achieve anything, so hopefully he'll get blocked soon. Bumping up my edit count though! Bretonbanquet (talk) 18:25, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Viewing figures

Those figures made me chuckle!! That's really quite a difference. Averaging less than half a million at what is not an ungodly hour is pretty poor, and they must surely be pretty disappointed with that. Maybe they think they can turn it around, but I'm not so sure... Bretonbanquet (talk) 17:48, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Definitely, they don't have the excuse that it was 4am or something. Looking forward to Spain - nowhere to hide if Sky achieve those kind of figures again. And yes! Hahah I noticed that, it's really not going terribly well for Sky so far, is it? Bretonbanquet (talk) 18:25, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I'm getting too old for the early starts! And a skeleton crew at Bahrain is what they'll have, for sure - but will we notice the difference?! Bless their black hearts, hahah... Bretonbanquet (talk) 19:28, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm into my third decade of early starts too! We must be gluttons for punishment. Yes, I agree that Sky's analysis is basically pretty ordinary, despite Brundle's insistence that it would knock our socks off. I agree about Croft too, and am I imagining it, or does Brundle seem oddly disinterested at the moment? Maybe he doesn't get on with Croft, or maybe he saw those viewing figures, hahah... Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:40, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Lol, I didn't watch him in China, what was he so disappointed about? It was a decent race. And oh God, nepotism. F1 is full of it. See how no-hoper Susie Wolff suddenly appeared worthy of a development driver role at Williams, just because hubby is on the board. Ugh. Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:56, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, I wonder if Brundle regrets his move yet. China was definitely the best race so far, nothing to moan about there really. Wolff v Wolff? Hahah it might be a close thing - I don't think Mr Wolff ever amounted to much on the track, but as you say, Mrs Wolff's DTM stats are appalling. Maybe we should give them a Citroen 2CV each and send them out for 24 hours round the Nurburgring. Winner survives. Did you see how Force India magically disappeared from the feed today? Hmmmm... Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:11, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

That's a fact - I'm sure the cash is sweetening the bitter taste of the viewing figures. I think all three races were fairly decent, so yeah, I agree on your assessment there. Three different winners cannot be bad. Maybe four as of tomorrow. Hmm.. seems Mr Wolff was no slouch on occasions at least; I'm sure Mrs Wolff's gender had a lot to do with her relative success - another motorsport failing, really. Female drivers seem to get breaks that their talent doesn't really merit. Yes, Milka Duno, I'm talking to you. Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:52, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Like I said in the edit summary on your userpage

Leopard is done, but I'd like a fresh set of eyes on it. I feel like there's got to be a more suave way than those bulleted lists to present that information (or maybe it's not even needed?). Like I say, not sure. Please give it a look. And I may need to disappear again for a week or three before I tackle those other three I said I'd do. This is even more mentally exhausting than I remembered. Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 21:13, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Copyeditor's Barnstar
	For tirelessly correcting my horrendous spelling without hesitation or complaint. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 13:13, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

PS - Moved this to your user page. Not sure if I should have; I've never really given out barnstars before. Sorry. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 13:15, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Let off your rudeness

Sorry, i will missed your comment. I didn't notice that ref already cited, is that mean i'm fail? You are impolite and biting people, also being arrogant. I still remember what your comment in lap leader template for 2011 season. Please stop such comment! Fix it or leave it. Thats all. --Aleenf1 13:34, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Need advice

Hi! I noticed you edit cycling articles a lot and I plan on doing that a bit myself, I have been on a cycling editing binge. I was wondering if you think it's ok to put the {{UCI team code|CSC}}, for example, in an article about, say, Jens Voigt winning a race while they had the CSC jersey, since it is going to show as Tinkoff, not CSC. I hope you understand my concerns. I also followed your example for the reference template {{cite news|blahblahblah}}, it is quite a complete one! Thanks in advance. Mattaidepikiw (talk) 18:22, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Great! {{UCI team code|SAX|1998}} for example. I watch and do so much cycling, I often come here for info about an obscure rider and well, I often stumble on a stub so I figure I'd help. As for references, what's the difference between "work" and "publisher"? I guess this one is complete enough? Thanks! :) Mattaidepikiw (talk) 23:48, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

UP HERE!! I just wrote my first article: Ivailo Gabrovski I hope everything is fine with it, it took me more than 2 hours, my brain is boiling right now! This is a lot more challenging than editing Uncyclopedia. :P I 'filled' that template, {{Persondata <!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]]. -->, I was just wondering what's the use of it. BTW, you seem to be a great cycling fan, did you see stage 3 of the Tour of Turkey? Fabulous race! Mattaidepikiw (talk) 09:25, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the link, I'll check it out after I get out of the vegetative state I'm in. I thought starting the stub would take 15 minutes, but once you start.... Next thing you know it's 2 am and you're working at 6... The stage is on Youtube, 720p if you want to see it. If you want to skip to the sizzling attack (but the rest of the stage is awesome too) just go to 35:30, it's worth watching! I'm glad I found a cycling addict that knows a lot about wikis from what I see in your contribs, the fact that you started a 2KB stub in under 12 minutes.... Disturbs me! I want an anti-doping test! If you watch the attack, tell me what you think, it is superhuman. Cheers! Mattaidepikiw (talk) 21:27, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

PS: Well since you're doing the Tour of Romandie results, I can concentrate on the Tour of Turkey! Is it worth it to include in their palmares the guys who finish 2nd and third of a stage and have a little text to go with it, in your opinion? In the sprint stages, it seems a bit too much, but in the mountain stages, it's prestigious. What say you? Mattaidepikiw (talk) 21:36, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Most. Dramatic. Finish. Ever. Gotta see this, skip to about 49:00. Have a nice day! Mattaidepikiw (talk) 08:45, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

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WP:NASCAR Newsletter (April 2012)

The WikiProject NASCAR Newsletter Volume 2 · No. 10 –March 26, 2012 – April 25, 2012 Previous month's issue - Next month's issue
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2012 Rally Argentina

Hi, thanks for putting in the speed in the Special Stages table. I wasn't sure where to get the source for that or whether I should just calculate it from the time and distance of the stage. Also, I rewrote 2007 Monte Carlo Rally a couple of days ago and am looking for some input about it from WP:RALLY people. Thanks, Matthewedwards :  Chat  14:04, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Updating the infobox for cyclists - Bradley Wiggins today

Hallo - just crosschecking the data here, i saw that you have the same line in your box as we have in wp:de : last updated. I wonder if you ever explored with your coders or template designers the posibility to get the date automatically. Whenever the data set of the infobox is edited it should be possible to obtain the date from the edit log, where it will be stored, too. As in many other infoboxes the update is displayed, there are chances that somebody in wp:en has created that little java-script already. In case you have an idea or a result pls let me know. --Maxxl2 (talk) 18:02, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

		The Modest Barnstar
		Thanks for your recent contributions! 67.80.64.128 (talk) 01:33, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Orica-GreenEDGE

I updated all the pages I could think of, but if I missed any (and if you feel up to going back to edit all the instances of {{UCI team code|GEC|2012}} to instead be {{UCI team code|GEC|2012a}} so that line of code can be removed from {{Cycling data GEC}} - I sure don't!), do be on the lookout. I do not have it in me to write a Giro article like I did the past three years. I just can't do it. Hopefully someone will, but even just your usual lead 'spiel' with prose such as appears on 2011 Tour de France would be okay. Little bits of trivia like this, though? Sure. And it makes me smile :) Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 05:58, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Cycling, yeah of course

I think I did a nice little job of following the 2012 Tour of Turkey. Mr. Gabrovski (thank God I created an article about him lol) had a one man army at the front. Also, you are the only person that answered me since I started editing some here. That certainly means something! I will certainly add to racer's articles' there with my melodious prose. I'm known for it. If you need some help just tell me! But I'm sure I am likely to need help before the roof caves in. :P . Mattaidepikiw (talk) 17:22, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Weird question

Would a race such as this be prestigious enough to be mentioned in a rider's palmares? The winners sure are well-known. Couldn't find much more details about it, since my German is as good as my Chinese. You must be quite busy with the Giro, I didn't see the Prologue, but I'll sure check out the stages. (I sure hope there will be serious breakaways). I like our Canadian chances in the Giro (Ryder Hesjedal). I bet 2 Canadian beers on him. And you, got a pick? Mattaidepikiw (talk) 14:14, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it is a criterium, I'll revert myself. I'll try to expand the Jens Voigt article slowly but surely, there are some holes in it. Rodriguez is a great pick too, can't wait until they hit the mountains! Mattaidepikiw (talk) 02:24, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Good grief, I just read your stage 2 résumé... Great work o.0 Mattaidepikiw (talk) 02:27, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

I expanded a bit the stage 3 résumé. I hope it's OK, if you want me to stay out of the way so you can work it on your own (You're doing a great job of it) just tell me, no problem! :) Mattaidepikiw (talk) 17:04, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah I saw it, what a retard. I'm not sure I'll have much time today though... Mattaidepikiw (talk) 18:09, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

OK, I added a little bit about the minute of silence for Weylandt. I won't be able to edit as much as you do (but I love editing here!) since I edit a whole lot on Uncyclopedia, a site that is a parody of Wikipedia, plus well, I work. Do you know what is Uncyclopedia? Mattaidepikiw (talk) 22:17, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

I put my serious coat on here (except on talk pages) and the clown coat over there. Just read the résumé of stage 3... You are a one man army. It comforts me in my decision to write 2 or 3 lines of text for the Tour of Turkey stages. I don't know if my prior edits helped at all lol, I think I'll focus on personal rider's articles since you really don't seem to need help o.0 Mattaidepikiw (talk) 23:30, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

So what you mean is you think it would be more productive for me to focus on personal riders' articles? Sorry if I sound a little dumb here. :S Mattaidepikiw (talk) 01:21, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

OK, I missed today's stage, but I'll sure add some during the tour when I get the chance to see the races. I'm sure I'll have a great report on stage 5 here anyway :). I think it is fun to dig back in time and write about riders like I did in the last few days. Mattaidepikiw (talk) 21:56, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Hello! While I was adding Miguel Ángel Rubiano's pro teams today, I was puzzled: one of them redirect to cycling team articles but it doesn't work with the

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• {{Contentious topics/list}} and {{Contentious topics/table}} show which topics are currently designated as contentious topics. They are used by a number of templates and pages on Wikipedia. template and the year: D'Angelo & Antenucci-Nippo. It's minor, but I thought it was worth mentioning. BTW, I didn't watch the race today, I mistakenly thought it was to be another flat, mass sprint affair! ARRGH! Mattaidepikiw (talk) 18:09, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Me again! Should I put the "personal life" section before or after the career details? Case in point Levi Leipheimer. Or should I just do whatever I feel is good and stop bugging you? :P Mattaidepikiw (talk) 03:57, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

RYYYYYDEEEEER!!! FIRST CANADIAN MAGLIA ROSA IN HISTORY!!!!!! :P Mattaidepikiw (talk) 15:39, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

I just updated the Ryder Hesjedal article, for if I had done so earlier today, it would not have had a very encyclopedic tone to it XD. I also noticed that on the 2012 Giro d'Italia article, there are no links to the great report you are producing, which is a shame. I have really gotten the hang of editing and having a friend/mentor like you makes it a great experience! I'll try to give a tiny start to your reports when I have time, but then the Tour of California is starting soon, maybe I should concentrate on very succinct reports about it... Anyway, always feel free to message me, I'll log in daily and try to edit as much as my schedule allows :) Mattaidepikiw (talk) 20:47, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Hey it is great if I can keep updates on the Giro, I'm sure I can do it about California, a 5-6 lines paragraph with 2-3 references should do the trick, what do you think?. It seems we are the only regular cycling editors. Do you sometimes go on IRC? We could discuss stuff. Mattaidepikiw (talk) 23:52, 12 May 2012 (UTC)PS, you didn't calirify about the detailed reports not being linked on 2012 Giro d'Italia I am puzzled!

I tried my best, but really I'd need help 2012 Tour of California. Mattaidepikiw (talk) 00:16, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Amazing, I'll try my best to have a good 2012 Tour of California resume, but don't expect miracles. Is there another nice person who could help? It seems we are alone editing cycling articles. (I hope at least you think I'm doing a decent job. ) Mattaidepikiw (talk) 02:00, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand why, but I'm trying to edit the 2012 Tour of California infobox and it doesn't work... could you take a look? Mattaidepikiw (talk) 20:27, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Wow, huge edit conflict, I was doing the same thing, but you did put three times more info that I did lol. Thanks. Mattaidepikiw (talk) 20:50, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm proud of myself here :P Do you think it's OK? 2012 Tour of California. But the problem is I can't find anywhere who the hell the Most Courageous and Most Aggressive riders are, nor the Team Classification. Any idea? Mattaidepikiw (talk) 01:46, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I went on their official site, but they don't say who's the Most Aggressive and Most Courageous... I found them in some obscure newspaper. Weird that their official site don't say! Thanks for the nice set-up! :) PS: Whoa I guess I'll wait a bit that the sites update their results correctly before writing the times... Mattaidepikiw (talk) 16:23, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi! When numerous teams are dead even such as you can see here, do I put BMC first? Is the Giro interesting? The Tour of California sure is, but it's a good thing that it'll be over shortly so I can witness the last week of the Giro. Hesjedal will win! *fingers crossed* PS WHOA! Just saw the last Giro stage ending. Race organizers are crazy to put bends like that in the final kilometers. It's like they want to kill the cyclists. :/ Mattaidepikiw (talk) 04:04, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Another question: What's the English name for an "average" mountain stage? There are "flat stages", "mountain stages" but what is the encyclopedic term for the intermediate one? Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 08:45, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Really? What's the difference bro? Should I change the others I made today? Whenever I used that citation template, I always wrote the dates like that... BTW, I'm taking the next flight to Italy, I am considering either sabotaging Rodriguez' brakes or throwing nails in front of him. Any other ideas? :P Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 08:24, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

2012 Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters season

Hey, would you mind taking a look at the points tables on the 2012 Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters season page? For some reason, they're not appearing right - there should be an unbroken line running along the bottom of the table, but it only appears halfway across. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 04:24, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Nope, I haven't made any changes to the page. I'm not running Opera, though; I'm on Firefox. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 11:45, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Okay, cool. I've been here three years and sometimes the nuances of Wikipedia - like table coding - are still a msytery to me. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 12:04, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

WPF1 Newsletter (April)

The WikiProject Formula One Newsletter Year V · Issue 4 · April 2, 2012 – May 7, 2012 Previous month's issue
New users New members – Dontforgetthisone (talk · contribs) (April 8) Danesman (talk · contribs) (April 15) New recipients – New editors – WikiProject news Check out Apterygial's My Insane Idea userproject, which aims to improve the 2008 Formula One season article and that season's Grands Prix to Featured Topic status. Newsletter news	Article developments Formula One articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Top High Mid Low NA Total FA 3 3 7 13 FL 1 2 1 4 A 2 2 GA 3 6 10 6 25 B 18 27 39 48 132 C 6 35 44 94 179 Start 16 101 183 675 975 Stub 18 130 1,524 1,672 List 3 8 18 4 33 Category 387 387 Disambig 8 8 Portal 35 35 Project 67 67 Redirect 13 13 Template 162 162 NA 35 35 Assessed 50 200 434 2,351 708 3,743 Total 50 200 434 2,351 708 3,743 See also: Wikipedia:WikiProject Formula One/Article alerts Featured List Candidates - List of Formula One polesitters Deletions – 2014 Formula One season
Editors' Comment Users are always welcome to help us with this newsletter. If you are interested, please leave a message on an existing editor's talkpage or sign up on the "Contributors" list of the central newsletter page, and we will tell you everything you need to know and answer your questions. Current contributors – Midgrid (talk · contribs) Cs-wolves (talk · contribs) Chubbennaitor (talk · contribs) How to help WPF1 – Expand the articles in Category:Formula One stubs. Read the project to-do list and help to complete the tasks: Article requests: Alf Francis ([1]), Daniele Coronna, Hans Fouche, Chris Radage, Steve Tarrant, Intertechnique, Elf Masters Copyedit: Bahrain Grand Prix, History of Formula One, Monaco Grand Prix, 2006 San Marino Grand Prix, Rob White (Formula One), Rob Smedley Expand: F1-X Dubai, Honda RA271, Paddy Lowe, Red Bull RB3, Spyker F1, Toyota TF107, BMW Sauber F1.07, Mario Theissen, Franz Tost, Chinese Grand Prix, Colin Kolles, Concorde Agreement, Formula One Constructors Association, McLaren MP4/1, Ove Andersson, Bob Bell, Korean International Circuit, Grand Prix Drivers' Association, Spyker F8-VII, Arai (company), Shoei, Schuberth Helme GmbH, Bell Racing Company, Jim Bamber, Nazir Hoosein, Formula One video games, Make Cars Green, Jonathan Legard, Michael Turner (illustrator) more Update: History of Formula One, 2011 Brazilian Grand Prix, Robert Doornbos, Formula One regulations, 2024 Formula One season, Scuderia Toro Rosso, Super Aguri F1, Divina Galica, Grand Prix World Championship Images needed: Max Mosley, Sakon Yamamoto, Jordan Grand Prix circa 1992-1997, Paddy Lowe, 2008 Turkish Grand Prix more For more work, see this generated list or the Auxiliary list
Images Below is the F1 Picture of the month (found here). The picture has to be one uploaded in the last month and only from the current season. It is exclusive to the Newsletter. REMEMBER, YOU CAN VOTE. Paul di Resta matched his career best finish of sixth place, at the Bahrain Grand Prix. New images 2012
Article of the month – 2012 Bahrain Grand Prix The 2012 Bahrain Grand Prix (formally known as the 2012 Formula 1 Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix) was a Formula One motor race held on 22 April 2012 at the Bahrain International Circuit in Sakhir, Bahrain. It was the first time Formula One returned to Bahrain after the 2011 race was cancelled due to ongoing anti-government protests. The race, the eighth running of the Bahrain Grand Prix, was contested over 57 laps and was the fourth round of the 2012 Formula One season. Sebastian Vettel started the race from pole position, leading into the first corner and for the majority of the race en route to victory. He was not without pressure though, as the Lotus of Kimi Räikkönen climbed the field, having started in eleventh place, and challenged for the lead before finishing second. Räikkönen's team-mate Romain Grosjean took the first podium finish of his career by finishing third, after having a strong start and quickly moving into second place by overtaking Lewis Hamilton and Mark Webber. Räikkönen passed Grosjean for second place roughly half-way through the race, being on a better tyre strategy. Hamilton started on the front row, but pitstop errors and degrading tyres left him eighth; his McLaren teammate, Jenson Button, retired with two laps remaining. As a consequence of the race, Sebastian Vettel took the lead in the Drivers' Championship from Lewis Hamilton. He became the fourth driver to top the standings from four races, and also the fourth race winner. Hamilton remained second, four points behind Vettel, whilst Webber jumped in front of Button to move into third with his fourth consecutive fourth place. Webber was just one point behind Hamilton, and Button was only five points behind him; Nico Rosberg was fifth. The Constructors' Championship was now lead by Red Bull, who also took the lead from McLaren (who were now nine points behind them). Lotus F1 moved up from sixth to third in the standings after their first podium. Ferrari fell to fourth whilst Mercedes remained fifth. The race's opponents described the decision to hold the race despite ongoing protests and violence as one of the most controversial Grands Prix in the sport's sixty-year history. (More...)
Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points 1st Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 53 2nd Lewis Hamilton McLaren 49 3rd Mark Webber Red Bull 48 4th Jenson Button McLaren 43 5th Fernando Alonso Ferrari 43 6th Nico Rosberg Mercedes 35 7th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 34 8th Romain Grosjean Lotus 23 9th Sergio Pérez Sauber 22 10th Paul di Resta Force India 15 11th Bruno Senna Williams 14 12th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 9 13th Jean-Éric Vergne Toro Rosso 4 14th Pastor Maldonado Williams 4 15th Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 2 16th Nico Hülkenberg Force India 2 17th Felipe Massa Ferrari 2 18th Michael Schumacher Mercedes 2 19th Timo Glock Marussia 0 20th Charles Pic Marussia 0 21st Vitaly Petrov Caterham 0 22nd Heikki Kovalainen Caterham 0 23rd Pedro de la Rosa HRT 0 24th Narain Karthikeyan HRT 0 Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Entered Chassis Points 1st Red Bull Racing RB8 101 2nd Vodafone McLaren Mercedes MP4-27 92 3rd Lotus F1 Team E20 57 4th Scuderia Ferrari F2012 45 5th Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team F1 W03 37 6th Sauber F1 Team C31 31 7th Williams F1 Team FW34 18 8th Sahara Force India F1 Team VJM05 17 9th Scuderia Toro Rosso STR7 6 10th Marussia F1 Team MR01 0 11th Caterham F1 Team CT01 0 12th HRT F1 Team F112 0 See 2012 Formula One season for more information
Chinese Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:36:26.929 2nd Jenson Button McLaren + 20.626 3rd Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 26.012 4th Mark Webber Red Bull + 27.924 5th Sebastian Vettel Red Bull + 30.483 6th Romain Grosjean Lotus + 31.491 7th Bruno Senna Williams + 34.597 8th Pastor Maldonado Williams + 35.643 9th Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 37.256 10th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber + 38.720 Fastest Lap: Kamui Kobayashi 1:39.960, on lap 40 Chinese Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:35.121 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:35.691 Row two Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 1:35.784 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 1:35.898 Row three Jenson Button McLaren 1:36.191 Mark Webber Red Bull 1:36.290 Row four Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:35.626* Sergio Pérez Sauber 1:36.524 Row five Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:36.622 Romain Grosjean Lotus No time† * Hamilton was given a five-place grid penalty for a gearbox change prior to the weekend. Hamilton set for China grid penalty † Grosjean failed to record a lap time during Q3. Friday Practice 1 – Hamilton tops damp session in Shanghai Friday Practice 2 – Schumacher pips Hamilton to set the pace Saturday Practice – Hamilton heads McLaren one-two Qualifying – Rampaging Rosberg takes maiden F1 pole Race – Rosberg an F1 winner after Shanghai thriller
Bahrain Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:35:10.990 2nd Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 3.333 3rd Romain Grosjean Lotus + 10.194 4th Mark Webber Red Bull + 38.788 5th Nico Rosberg Mercedes + 55.460 6th Paul di Resta Force India + 57.543 7th Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 57.803 8th Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 58.984 9th Felipe Massa Ferrari + 1:04.999 10th Michael Schumacher Mercedes + 1:11.490 Fastest Lap: Sebastian Vettel 1:36.379, on lap 41 Bahrain Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:32.422 Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:32.520 Row two Mark Webber Red Bull 1:32.637 Jenson Button McLaren 1:32.711 Row three Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:32.821 Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 1:32.912 Row four Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:33.008 Sergio Pérez Sauber 1:33.394 Row five Fernando Alonso Ferrari No time* Paul di Resta Force India No time† * Alonso did not complete a flying lap during Q3. † di Resta failed to record a lap time during Q3. Friday Practice 1 – Hamilton leads Vettel in Bahrain Friday Practice 2 – Rosberg still flying for Mercedes Saturday Practice – Red Bull close in on Rosberg Qualifying – Resurgent Vettel takes Sakhir pole Race – Vettel holds off Raikkonen for Sakhir win

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Current Sports Events

I don't see why the Current Sports Events portal has to be identical in style to the main portal? All of the previous XMonth in ZYear articles have been lists similar to what I had. This style does not suit sports. You really don't need a sentence to just say two teams drew. All you need to say is XTeam 1-1 YTeam. This system also feels cluttered and harder to read than the previous list system. Rubaisport (talk) 23:22, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Renault F1 template

Hi Cs-wolves. I notice you recently reverted User:Me12356's edits to Template:Renault F1. I wonder if you would be interested in contributing to the discussion about these edits on the template's talk page? Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 11:23, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 13:54, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Giro

Your reports are cool, very complete stuff! I was wondering where you got the pictures. I understand the policy for uploading here is pretty stiff. Is there a place where could I go to get pictures of the stages of the Tour of California and upload them without receiving the visit of the cyberpolice??? Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 20:01, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

HEEEEESJEDAAAAALLLL!!!!! BWAHAHAHA!!!! :) Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 00:43, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Rodriguez really is your favorite eh? I like him too to be honest. Well, I hope Hesjedal gets a podium at least, people are quite excited here, as apart from Steve Bauer, we never had cycling stars. I think Pozzovivo is a pretty intriguing guy though... Maybe he has surprises in his bag (122 pounds o.0). I saw that you have an IMMENSE amount of edits, I just wanted to politely ask if you are paid or work for Wikipedia. I would have asked you on IRC, but since you don't go... Editing here is fun though, it's a great pastime :) Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 02:37, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh no... :/ What a shame I missed that one on TV, I was cycling lol. I thought there would be a rerun of it tonight as they always do but no, there is stupid hockey instead. I didn't think Rodriguez would be good on long climbs. Hats off to him, but Hesjedal will fight! I just sent him a small revolver which he'll be able to hide in his jersey.... Fair play is my middle name! XD Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 19:22, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the stage finish, I'll watch that tonight :) I'll write the résumé of the final stage of the 2012 Tour of California either tonight or tomorrow, as I rode a little more than 100 Km today and am quite tired. I also witnessed the most violent bike crash I've ever seen with my own eyes today, me and my girlfriend passed 2 guys at at least 35 kph, one of them got distracted when we passed them (we were at least 8 feet from them, on their left) and he deviated in a rocky ditch. We called the ambulance, he'll be OK but got a concussion and maybe some broken ribs, I don't know. His 600$ front wheel became a worthless piece of twisted junk. Anyway,Svefnpurka helped me a lot with the tables, he's a nice guy too. Do you ride yourself? Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 00:38, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Just finished watching it, what an ending! I think Rodriguez left the stage to Rabotini, what a victory| BTW, I guess it is not too much of a "problem" if stages résumé are written some days later. We're not a newspaper lol. It's fun to do though. Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 02:12, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

What is that "good article" mumbo-jumbo? Could I submit the 2012 Tour of California to it? What do you think? In any case, it was fun to do it, I had a blast! Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 03:43, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

2012 Tour of California is a wrap :3. Did you see today's stage? Awesome! I was on the edge of my seat. My predictions for what's to come: tomorrow: nothing. Cavendish wins, who cares? Pozzovivo wins one of the last stages taking a vast amount of time, but Hesjedal marks Rodriguez and doesn't lose much time to him in either stages. Then Ryder destroys everyone in the Time Trial and brings the jersey home. Even his opponents fear him, and rightfully so! *EVIL LAUGH* lol. Seriously, I think his chances are very good! And you, any predictions? Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 00:33, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Schumacher

Exactly! This is exactly the problem. And you feel like these people will give you an argument if you revert them, because they're so sure they're right. And I don't have that kind of patience any more. I've popped out of retirement to revert the Schumacher page to your last version, but I'm sure someone will change it again. I'm wondering which channel they've been watching because they seem to have no idea that Schumacher has a penalty. Bretonbanquet (talk) 14:23, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Yep, I agree. I'll revert obvious vandalism, and that IP-hopping idiot that won't go away, but that's it. I'm not doing the driver results after races any more - I've done it for three years or more, but as you say, IPs coming along and doing some of it, or one part of it, and leaving the rest undone - that does my head in. It's the same with the team articles. You're right, the newbies won't bother with articles about drivers from the 60s or 70s etc - we're pretty much safe to get on with what we want to do there. Those Giro pages look pretty complicated, but at least a non-expert (like me) has half a chance of understanding it, and that's not an easy thing to achieve with complicated topics. I can crack on with the football articles, especially the non-league ones at the moment, with all the reprieves and clubs going bust etc - the silly season. Plus I like to work on music articles, and I'm trying to get a life as well! I'm off to see Brian Robertson tonight - hope he's sober. And oh yes, Schumacher totally deserved that penalty! Bretonbanquet (talk) 15:06, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Nope, IP-hopper still at it. He's trying all kinds of things - I've just reverted his attempt at guessing tomorrow's result. Nobody in any position of authority has the remotest interest... I was doing the same with the F1 result updates - if someone just updated part of it - bam, I reverted him and started again. Sometimes I even used rollback, which you're not supposed to do unless it's vandalism. But it took ages sometimes... no more! I was poking through some of the cycling articles and they're pretty impressive - must be some of the best sporting articles out there, very comprehensive but still easy to read. Good work! Hopefully you don't suffer from IP muppetry like F1 does. I'm getting a bit obsessed with non-league football! Trying to figure out who's going to be in which league is a real jigsaw puzzle. Robertson is a bit of a hero of mine - hopefully I'll get to say hello, although they do warn you never to meet your heroes! I've just read about the Clarkston explosion - something I never knew about (before my time) but it shows how Wikipedia broadens the mind. Totally agree about Maldonado's penalty - he has a snappy side to him that he needs to erase... and now he has a gearbox penalty too! Starts last... Bretonbanquet (talk) 16:22, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

It is all a bit laughable - modern F1 articles are in danger of becoming a bit of a joke. I've asked for semi-protection of the Schumacher article, as it's getting silly. I even sent one IP a link to the Autosport article that says Webber's on pole, but he still reverted me... I'm waiting to see what happens tomorrow after the race when I don't update the results. Maybe someone will take over, maybe they won't. I think WPF1 can dream about C-class articles across the board, but dreaming is all it'll be. I didn't know about that helicopter crash either - you get the feeling that if that happened today it would be very big news - big inquiries and someone held to blame etc. That was a busy support race schedule today! The first link there shows just the kind of thing that can happen at Monaco, lucky everyone was OK - but lord... Suranovich needs to be taken out the back of the pits and shot for that. Defending and blocking while he's minus a rear wing? He shouldn't be anywhere near a racetrack if that's the way he wants to carry on! Bretonbanquet (talk) 17:16, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I agree again, some of it reads like the Daily Mail. The lack of knowledge is typified by today's pole nonsense. It doesn't help when a couple of sources get it wrong too. Bellof was a very fine driver, I remember Schumacher saying he was a great influence. In a better car, he'd have been extremely hard to beat, I suspect. Good work on those articles! It would have been a hard job to even establish notability from some of those earlier revisions. It just goes to show what can be done. Let's hope tomorrow's support races are a bit less eventful than today's... and let's hope the race is a good 'un! Bretonbanquet (talk) 18:27, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I knew there had to have been another occasion! Well researched. Yeah, Bellof would surely have been Germany's first champion... Oh yes, that win for Vettel really annoyed me for ages afterwards.. ugh. It'd be great to get yet another new winner though! Bretonbanquet (talk) 18:38, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I think there's potential for seven or eight different winners this season, or maybe more. Prost has said that this season is "too unpredictable" - I don't buy that, I'll take unpredictability every time! But then, he was the Professor! Brian Robertson was a gentleman... and sober! Bretonbanquet (talk) 01:30, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Pole or no pole... gpupdate[1] and pitpass[2] say pole. --Sporti (talk) 18:09, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Nobody cares what those idiots say. The official word [3] says Webber on pole. It's really very simple, and it'll be borne out tomorrow afternoon when Webber lines up in front. Otherwise Hamilton would have had a pole for the last race. This is elementary F1 stuff, and too many people just don't understand it, unfortunately. Bretonbanquet (talk) 18:27, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I guess we'll see when formula1.com updates drivers' statics, but Hamilton was disqualified last time so it's different situation. --Sporti (talk) 19:25, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Grr edit conflicts

I was doing the whole edit at once while you were doing bits and pieces. Damn you and such! Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 15:45, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Hesjedal will win!

I never dreamed it would be the case as I taunted you (OK maybe dreamed is the right term) but it looks good for him in the ITT! Do you like Purrito because of his style? Man, I watched the last 2 stages live and will see the ITT tomorrow, what an awesome finish to the Giro! What a great race. Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 04:27, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

And he did win!! Oh what a race that was. I almost had a heart attack at each bend he would take on the Time trial, when he slipped 2 times, I almost died. Purito was very nice in "defeat" (if we can call finishing second in the Giro a "defeat" lol) Is there another race similar to the Tour of California's caliber coming? I know someone took the 2012 Tour of Belgium one. Did you read a bit of the 2012 Tour of California? I updated the lead today. Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 02:29, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Errr.. You mean the article is rated as a C? Where do you see that? Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 13:36, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

So C would be the lowest classification?? Damn I put about 10 hours writing it, finding the references and filling the tables. Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 19:16, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

WP:NASCAR Newsletter (May 2012)

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-- Nascar1996^{(Talk • Contribs)} 15:48, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Out again

But I'm glad I was here for that Giro...what a race. What a champion we have in Hesjedal. What a great, great podium (sorry Scarps and Basso, your style and legs just ain't cutting it anymore). A high note to go out on. As always, keep up the good work. I have my other interests I need (and I do mean need) to attend to. Maybe I'll pop up again during the Tour or the Olympics, but it's highly unlikely to be before then. Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 17:42, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Current sport events (again)

The style you've imposed on the portal is the result of a vote? Or have you changed the style of years and years just because you wanted? I think the Current events/Sports was imperfect, but at least you could log in and view the most important results in a much more simple way. I no longer update the results because I disagree with the way you have changed the style, without any discussion. If it is the result of a vote, then I have nothing more to say. If not, I'd like you to stop changing the style and revert all the results to the way they have always been until there's a good discussion and a vote. I loved updating every day scores and results, but I'm not doing it if you're going to change the style on your own. Portal:Current events/Sports is now a very poor portal, with almost no results and very unattractive. Sorry for my English. --Itxia (talk) 14:18, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

2012 Critérium du Dauphiné

Just created the skeleton :). Did you plan on writing it? If you want, we could collaborate on that one, it would be fun! Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 18:24, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Great! You have a lot better experience than me and a lot better prose that me, so I suggest I come in a bit earlier and put some references in there. I just took a look at your User page, it is a great one! Is it true that you "suffer" from Asperger Syndrome? Well, I don't know what it is and I hope we can be Internet friends! Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 22:39, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

AS

It's an interesting article, I easily guessed what your "repetitive interests" is :) It sounds more like a passion to me, it's not too abnormal in my view. I guess there is different degrees to the syndrome, since you seem to care and you're definitely good with language. Have a nice day! Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 13:26, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Something is wrong in the "Origins" section of the Eddy Merckx article since the quotes are getting over the infobox, in my case anyway. I don't know how to fix this. Can't wait until the Dauphiné starts, I looked at the stage profiles today and posted them on the article. Mountainous it's gonna be! I hope someone posts the stages on Youtube. I'm gonna try to at least do the tables every day and maybe write a little something as a basis for you to expand on, if you're still interested in writing this. Cheers! Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 02:56, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I'm not of much help for the Dauphiné, I haven't had as much time as I thought I would :S Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 22:04, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Wow, you really write smoothly! Did the little start help? And also, what's happening with Schleck??? He got dropped in both stages so far... I hope he gets a few blood transfusions for the Tour! :P And Hesjedal is scheduled to be the Tour leader also! That will give me an excuse to poke you a little more, now I'll throw in everything I can and bet a moose antle and SIX beer on Hesjedal. SIX! Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 02:08, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm very glad that helped, I'll do it again when I can. Your prognosis seems right, Hesjedal did the top 10 on the Tour in 2010 I believe. The Tour is a step higher than the Giro, but one can dream. :) If you want to get the end of the stages in HD and in English, I found them on Youtube. This user posted the 2 first stages, so let's follow in his slipstream! Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 04:16, 6 June 2012 (UTC) PS: Oh no! I wrote that the last climb to the finish was not categorised but it was (4). Ha well, I knew the broomwagon would pass after me. :S

2012 Critérium du Dauphiné: Just read it all and it is very good. I grade it A+. :) I guess there is a bloke that will read it and then grade it sooner or later? Sorry I couldn't be of much help, I don't think I'll have time for the Tour de Suisse either. :( I'll sure stick around to add a bit to personal riders' articles though like I do regularly, and I'll certainly take on the challenge of another 2.HC race when I can. Wiggins looked totally out of this world, eh? So did his team! I now have a little more than 1,000 edits, I'm about to pass you in the fast lane! Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 00:44, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Qinghai Lake will certainly go to hell, we are right in the moving period here and I help my uncle with his moving business (during my vacations, imagine that) You may not see me much for a while, but don't despair, I'll come back. I look like a (not confident) diva here, but I need to know: are my overall contribs (go take an overall glance if you will) kind of useful? Please be frank, as I know I'll never write as well as you. Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 20:16, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi my friend! Not much going on until the Tour, isn't it? Is there something I could do during the Tour to make your life easier? Like a short résumé where you can take some of my writings and references? I won't be able to do it everyday though, but I want to help. Is this a good Course of action? Also, I read in the Asperger Syndrome the some people may not like humor, and I wrote this one on Uncyclopedia a year ago, thought it might interest you. Comments? Do you find it funny? Cheers and I'll help as best as my schedule allows! :) Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 01:31, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind words for the article! Still trying to get how you are 'different' thanks to AS. I wrote another one about cycling, in the spring. I'm sure Boonen would be proud :P Mattaidepikiw (Talk) 02:37, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

F1POM

There are just two possible candidates for this month's newsletter, both of which are of equivalent "importance" - do you have a preference either way? I really don't mind which one is used.--Midgrid(talk) 19:23, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks and no worries!--Midgrid(talk) 22:51, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

WPF1 Newsletter (May)

The WikiProject Formula One Newsletter Year V · Issue 5 · May 7, 2012 – June 4, 2012 Previous month's issue
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Article of the month – 2012 Formula One season, current peer review The 2012 Formula One season is the 63rd FIA Formula One season. The season started in Australia on 18 March and will end in Brazil on 25 November. It is being contested over twenty races – the most races in a season in the sport's history – and will see the return of the United States Grand Prix, which will be held at the Circuit of the Americas, a purpose-built circuit in Austin, Texas. After being cancelled in 2011 due to civil protests, the Bahrain Grand Prix returned to the calendar. In addition to having the greatest number of races in a championship year, the 2012 season broke several records. Six current and former World Drivers' Champions — Sebastian Vettel, Jenson Button, Lewis Hamilton, Kimi Räikkönen, Fernando Alonso and Michael Schumacher — started the season, breaking the record of five established in 1970. The 2012 season was also the first time that the first six championship races of a season were won by six different drivers. (More...)
Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points 1st Fernando Alonso Ferrari 76 2nd Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 73 3rd Mark Webber Red Bull 73 4th Lewis Hamilton McLaren 63 5th Nico Rosberg Mercedes 59 6th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 51 7th Jenson Button McLaren 45 8th Romain Grosjean Lotus 35 9th Pastor Maldonado Williams 29 10th Sergio Pérez Sauber 22 11th Paul di Resta Force India 21 12th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 19 13th Bruno Senna Williams 15 14th Felipe Massa Ferrari 10 15th Nico Hülkenberg Force India 7 16th Jean-Éric Vergne Toro Rosso 4 17th Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 2 18th Michael Schumacher Mercedes 2 19th Heikki Kovalainen Caterham 0 20th Timo Glock Marussia 0 21st Charles Pic Marussia 0 22nd Narain Karthikeyan HRT 0 23rd Vitaly Petrov Caterham 0 24th Pedro de la Rosa HRT 0 Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Entered Chassis Points 1st Red Bull Racing RB8 146 2nd Vodafone McLaren Mercedes MP4-27 108 3rd Scuderia Ferrari F2012 86 4th Lotus F1 Team E20 86 5th Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team F1 W03 61 6th Williams F1 Team FW34 44 7th Sauber F1 Team C31 41 8th Sahara Force India F1 Team VJM05 28 9th Scuderia Toro Rosso STR7 6 10th Caterham F1 Team CT01 0 11th Marussia F1 Team MR01 0 12th HRT F1 Team F112 0 See 2012 Formula One season for more information
Spanish Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Pastor Maldonado Williams 1:39:09.145 2nd Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 3.195 3rd Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 3.884 4th Romain Grosjean Lotus + 14.799 5th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber + 1:04.641 6th Sebastian Vettel Red Bull + 1:07.576 7th Nico Rosberg Mercedes + 1:17.919 8th Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 1:18.140 9th Jenson Button McLaren + 1:25.246 10th Nico Hülkenberg Force India + 1 lap Fastest Lap: Romain Grosjean 1:26.250, on lap 53 Spanish Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Pastor Maldonado Williams 1:22.285* Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:22.302 Row two Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:22.424 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 1:22.487 Row three Sergio Pérez Sauber 1:22.533 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:23.005 Row four Sebastian Vettel Red Bull No time† Michael Schumacher Mercedes No time‡ Row five Kamui Kobayashi Sauber No time§ Jenson Button McLaren 1:22.944 (Q2) * Lewis Hamilton (1:21.707) was disqualified from the qualifying session, and sent to the back of the grid after stewards deemed he did not have enough fuel in his car, following the session; Hamilton had stopped on track following his qualifying lap. Hamilton excluded from qualifying results; Maldonado on pole † Vettel did not complete a flying lap during the third part of qualifying. ‡ Schumacher did not start a flying lap during the third part of qualifying. § Kobayashi stopped at the end of the second part of qualifying, and was not permitted to compete in the third part. Friday Practice 1 – Home advantage to Alonso Friday Practice 2 – Button leads in Barcelona for McLaren Saturday Practice – Vettel moves ahead in Spain Qualifying – Hamilton on pole from Maldonado Race – Magnificent Maldonado puts Williams back on top
Monaco Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Mark Webber Red Bull 1:46:06.557 2nd Nico Rosberg Mercedes + 0.643 3rd Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 0.947 4th Sebastian Vettel Red Bull + 1.343 5th Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 4.101 6th Felipe Massa Ferrari + 6.195 7th Paul di Resta Force India + 41.537 8th Nico Hülkenberg Force India + 42.562 9th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 44.036 10th Bruno Senna Williams + 44.516 Fastest Lap: Sergio Pérez (Sauber) 1:17.296, on lap 49 Monaco Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Mark Webber Red Bull 1:14.381 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:14.448 Row two Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:14.583 Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:14.639 Row three Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:14.948 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:14.301* Row four Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:15.049 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 1:15.199 Row five Sebastian Vettel Red Bull No time† Nico Hülkenberg Force India 1:15.421 (Q2)‡ * Schumacher was demoted five places on the starting grid, following a collision with Bruno Senna at the Spanish Grand Prix. Schumacher handed five-place grid penalty for Monaco † Vettel did not complete a flying lap during the third part of qualifying. ‡ Pastor Maldonado (1:15.245) was given a ten-place grid penalty for an avoidable collision with Sergio Pérez in the third free practice session. He was also given a five-place grid penalty for a change of gearbox. Maldonado takes grid penalty after Perez incident Thursday Practice 1 – Alonso sets early Monaco pace Thursday Practice 2 – Button tops rain-hit Monaco session Saturday Practice – Rosberg leads, Maldonado crashes Qualifying – Schumacher fastest, Webber on pole Race – Webber makes it six winners from six races

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Take a glance at my talkpage

The newest section (the "interview" thing) looks to be more up your alley than mine, and it does say to share. Shockingly the message wasn't given to you.

(Also, I'm not here. I just signed in to list a FARC). Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 11:31, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

WP:EQ

Further information: WP:EQ

Could I please remind you of WP:EQ. I appreciate that you didn’t like the new calendar added to the 2012 British Touring Car Championship season page. However, describing the edit as "hideous" when a note saying "remove new calendar; if you want to see a track map, go to that particular track's article" would have been enough. I am only pointing this out as this type of attitude could deter some members of Wikipedia from editing and adding to articles, thus making the project poorer for it.

All I ask is that any criticisms of peoples edits are delivered constructively because the rest of the point that you make, in that “if you want to see a track map, go to that particular track's article" I actually agree with now and with hindsight the edit I made did not add to the quality of this article, hence the value in other editors comments if constructively delivered. Mharris99 (talk) 08:52, 9 June 2012

and you can check the edits not reverted....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/202.216.85.160  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 22:39, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Azzedine Lagab

Hi, may I ask you why you put the recently won race on top of the year instead of the bottom in his palmares? Maybe this is the regular rule in Wikipedia and I was not aware of that, but I have created his article and in chronological order it has to be on the bottom. In case the rule on Wikipedia is that the newest achievement should be on top the whole article has to change. LindaSportGirl (talk) 00:13, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

OK so what do you suggest? Put them all in another order like you mentioned? I mean two have several different orders in the same article doesn't look good in my opinion. LindaSportGirl (talk) 08:30, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Alright, so let me revert your edit back to my version for now and then change it if necessary for the whole article later on.LindaSportGirl (talk) 14:28, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Craig, I owe you! LindaSportGirl (talk) 14:32, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Just let me know when I can be of help ;) LindaSportGirl (talk) 14:38, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Very nice way of making someone feel at home in a new environment, thanks! LindaSportGirl (talk) 14:46, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Are you seriously thinking I take things too seriously? Weird people in Scotland. LindaSportGirl (talk) 15:20, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

I haven't noticed that you were acting like one? LindaSportGirl (talk) 19:56, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

I'll let you have the first bite, if you wouldn't have reverted me there we wouldn't have this conversation right now. This must be the easiest way to pick up women on Wikipedia. LindaSportGirl (talk) 20:01, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Cool, learned something new again :) Really? Do you have the feeling there's a lot of tension between the male editors? I haven't had conversations with many people yet, but so far people seem friendly. LindaSportGirl (talk) 20:14, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

But isn't that one of the reasons why we need references. With correct references these controversial opinions shouldn't even exist as people are not able to give their opinion, they can only add facts that are documented someone on the internet. LindaSportGirl (talk) 23:49, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

These references are needed if Wikipedia wants to be taken seriously, anything not referenced could not be true and that's not what you want. The only thing that's annoying about it is the extra typing that you have to do as well as that it makes your article hard to read while editing. LindaSportGirl (talk) 00:06, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

I kind of did it from the beginning as I have been reading and checking articles before I started to edit and I knew the importance of it. I just didn't use all the options in the template at first, but now I'll do it as complete as possible. LindaSportGirl (talk) 00:13, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Geeezzzz stop flirting ;) Haha, thanks for the compliment! It's not that difficult though, it just takes quite some time to put all the facts into a written article, which is the reason why most articles are just a stub with a list of achievements. I think it's nice to write an article like that every once in a while. That said, there's a lot of info needed to be added to Wikipedia, in current articles and in non existing articles, which means we have no time to write decent articles on all sportspeople, unfortunately. LindaSportGirl (talk) 00:30, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Haha don't worry, I was just kidding. The good thing about this whole Wikipedia thing is that I don't have to do all the things myself. Other people are helping and in case I might lose interest after a while, or for a while, or if because of other happenings in my life I can not be here for a while other people will be there to add at least some of the information I would have added in case I was here. That makes any edit with additional or correcting info worth it. LindaSportGirl (talk) 00:48, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

It's good to have the feeling that I'm welcome ;) Thanks. LindaSportGirl (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Cool, good to know... almost bedtime though, so wishing you a good night. LindaSportGirl (talk) 01:04, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

1988 Giro Possible quick lookover/review

Hey Cs,

I was wondering if you could look over the article I've been working on for the past few months, the 1988 Giro d'Italia page. Anything could help, I nominated it for GA and then put it on hold; so I could get some people from the cycling pages to take a look at it. If you don't want to, I understand. Edge has helped me out a lot and I put something on Nosleeps page, but she is away. You're the last person that I've talked to before that knows cycling, so that's why I'm asking you. ThurstAsh13 (talk) 20:56, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Yeah that's not a problem at all. Thanks bro. ThurstAsh13 (talk) 22:02, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Bro its fine. ThurstAsh13 (talk) 00:18, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

It looks great, and I don't think I'll need any additional citations. Thanks again. ThurstAsh13 (talk) 14:33, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

WP:NASCAR Newsletter (June 2012)

The WikiProject NASCAR Newsletter Volume 2 · No. 12 –May 26, 2012 – June 25, 2012 Previous month's issue - Next month's issue
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Article of the month – 2010 Kobalt Tools 500 (Phoenix), a new Good Article The 2010 Kobalt Tools 500 was a NASCAR Sprint Cup Series stock car race that was held on November 14, 2010 at Phoenix International Raceway in Avondale, Arizona. Contested over 312 laps, it was the thirty-fifth, and the ninth race in the Chase for the Sprint Cup during the 2010 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series season. The race was won by Carl Edwards, for the Roush Fenway Racing team. Ryan Newman finished second, and Joey Logano clinched third. Pole position driver Edwards maintained his lead on the first lap to begin the race, as Newman, who started in the second position on the grid, remained behind him. On the seventh lap, Kurt Busch became the leader of the race. Hamlin, the points leader before the race, led the most laps with a total of 190. On lap 298, Hamlin pitted and became a lap behind. He didn't return to the first ten positions afterward. Edwards maintained the lead to win the race. There were five cautions and 14 lead changes among six different drivers throughout the course of the race. It was Edwards' first win in the 2010 season, and the 18th of his career. The result kept Edwards in fourth in the Drivers' Championship, 264 points behind Denny Hamlin and 47 ahead of Matt Kenseth. Chevrolet maintained its lead in the Manufacturers' Championship, 42 ponits ahead of Toyota and 88 ahead of Ford, with one race remaining in the season. A total of 75,000 people attended the race, while 4.201 million watched it on television. (Read more...)
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Ayrton Senna

Thanks, good catch,. Missed that one further down. Britmax (talk) 12:48, 29 June 2012 (UTC)