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Thanks for the heads up! I've done edits in the past, but it's been a while so I forgot about the referencing. I re-added it and added a citation too. Thanks for your help. --DisneyMetalhead (talk) 20:49, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Merry, merry!

From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 14:27, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

I'm somehow only just barely noticing this, @Bzuk:. Thank you for the wishes. Hope that yours was terrific as well!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 06:11, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2

Hey User:DisneyMetalhead, I have noticed that you have been engaged in an edit debate with Rusted AutoParts, who reverted edits without any sources, multiple times that you have made. Since this is debate for them, and I can read that you have been condensing sentences, I am only bringing this up so that it can be resolved correctly. Since you have a debate with other editors, you as well as they need to take it to the talk-page. In their most recent revert they told you to go to the talk page....I don't think this is not something that should be a matter of talk page debate. However, since it's an issue I am bringing it up to both of you. I have posted the same on their talk page, and hope this will be resolved correctly.--50.232.205.246 (talk) 17:57, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! I'll be sure to voice my opinion there.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 00:23, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Collaborative recognition

Here, have a cookie for the additional work you put into the Ron Howard page. That filmography was a mess, and though I would've liked to have finished it myself - props to you for your contribution.--50.232.205.246 (talk) 17:44, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks User:50.232.205.246! Sorry I got stoked that someone was finally beginning to clean up the page and wanted to join in. --DisneyMetalhead (talk) 00:10, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Franchise Article

Instead of changing the X-men film series page to a franchise page, has anyone just created a franchise article directly? Sort of like how there is a main MCU article, but also separate articles for the MCU films and MCU television series. With how insistent a certain editor is that only their edits are correct (I'm experiencing that first hand in a different article at the moment), perhaps this would be the best option? That way the film article can be kept as such while still having an article that explains the film and television X-men universe? -AnonWikiEditor (talk) 10:18, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

I already created the franchise article once, but it was turned down by editors through the article move request.TheVeryHotWikipedian (talk) 11:50, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

User:AnonWikiEditor, I have suggested such a move, and it would make sense as the MCU has multiple pages as you pointed out. User:Hotwiki, why don't you try again? Times change, the world changes, Wikipedia can too.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 13:38, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Seasons' Greetings

...to you and yours, from Canada's Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:03, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

@Bzuk: wow sorry for the extremely delayed response. Thank you for reaching out to me in December 2017. Hope things are going well for you. Cheers!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 03:22, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

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MatthewVanitas (talk) 00:58, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

This should have been filed under Crocodile Dundee (film series). I'm glad someone corrected that.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 23:42, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

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Excellent work AmericanAir88 (talk) 17:48, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

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Stan Lee cameos

When more than one grieving person decides to edit an excellent article, it becomes very hard to coordinate changes. But now it is getting the shape it deserves. Thankee to all! SilSinn9821 (talk) 20:11, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Completely agree, User:SilSinn9821. "Excelsior!"--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 16:04, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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	Good work. Hayholt (talk) 20:10, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks User:Hayholt! Is there something particular that I did to receive this? Much appreciated.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 22:28, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

@Hayholt: I'm just trying to find what article I had worked on for this WP:BS. I appreciate the award, and would just like to file it on my page accordingly. Cheers M8!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 03:15, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

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Excellent work

I am very pleased with your initiative with the Alien (franchise). I've done extensive work on the Alien franchise pages in the past, including saving from deletion and bringing up to FL status List of Alien characters, as well as creating David 8 and bringing it to GA status. I'm planning on joining in with the main franchise page cleanup - primarily to reduce the presence of the copy-pasted material from the AvP pages and to add clarity. There can certainly be AvP content mentioned, but it shouldn't be a cornerstone of the page, by any means. I would have joined in earlier, but there's been a pretty significant dispute with TurokSwe that needed to be addressed on AN/I, before anything else. Anyways, keep up the good work! DÅRTHBØTTØ _(T•C) 21:08, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks @DarthBotto:! Trying to get it to feel less cluttered and more organized, as you are. Cheers!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 22:15, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Prod of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in film

Hello, I have removed the WP:PROD tag you placed on the redirect page Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in film, as your requested move is better served through the requested move process. If you believe that the move is truly uncontroversial, you may tag the redirect page with {{db-move}}. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 20:09, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

@Kuyabribri: thanks for the heads up! I have placed the suggested template there as the separate film series should be divided on a page which has a title indicating there are multiple interpretations of the same product (i.e.: various film series). Thanks for the help.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 15:42, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

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Nomination of Top Gun (film series) for deletion

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• @BilCat:, uhhhhh no. Definitely poor reasons to delete a page. I have commented there now.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 12:35, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Disneynature discussions

Duplicate entry

Hello,

I noticed you add Blue to List of Walt Disney Pictures films. The film has been renamed to Dolphin Reef, with a planned US release date on November 12, 2019. I think its better to focus on US release dates for films, rather than earlier International release dates. Thoughts? Cardei012597 (talk) 01:27, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

@Cardei012597: Blue is not the same movie as Dolphin Reef. They are two separate films, though they are both about the ocean. Blue was an exclusive film only released in France.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:37, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

I am sorry to say this, but you are incorrect. There are many articles online that describe the production, delay, and release of Blue/Dolphins/Dolphin Reef. There may of been edits or cuts of Blue, but Disneynature planned on ONE Dolphin centered film, which began as Blue, evolved as Dolphins, then to Dolphin Reef. There are articles, even on the Dolphin Reef page, that describe Blue and Dolphin Reef as the same film/production. If you are interested, I can provide the references for my case. Cardei012597 (talk) 04:55, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Just by researching briefly, I found this quote from a reliable source "For some reason, the team nixed the Natalie Portman-narrated Dolphins last year, only a week before its release. (A version was released in France under the name Blue.)" If you require more references that prove my claim, I can provide them. Cardei012597 (talk) 05:02, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Another reliable source stated this: "DisneyNature was originally going to released this movie in 2018, under the name “Dolphins”, but was pulled from release in the US. It did get released in France, under the title Blue." Cardei012597 (talk) 05:09, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

References

@Cardei012597: You stated it yourself: "a version was released in France under the name Blue". It's not the same movie. It's a different film/different cut and only released in France, just as I stated.

I literally had this exact same debate over whether if Once Upon a Deadpool was a different film from Deadpool 2. Recut or re-edited films are NEVER considered different film and deserving to be on a film list. Blue is the Once Upon a Deadpool, a re-edited version of the same film. If you truly believe that re-edited versions of the SAME film should exist, than maybe you should also add the re-edited versions of EVERY Disney theatrical film. Discussions like this has been taken place, on whether to include re-edited, recut versilms of films and describe them as a new film, with Administrators. This is why on the Lucasfilm film table they do NOT include the re-releases with the Special editions. The best course of action to our discussion is to add Blue to the NOTES section of Dolphin Blue, similar to how the people resolved the Once Upon a Deadpool issue. I think this compromise is fair, acknowledging Blue as a French re-edit of an American made film, but understanding that the List of Walt Disney Pictures focuses on the U.S. release of a film. I will add this note to the Disney page. Cardei012597 (talk) 16:26, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Ok, I added the note. You can check it out now on List of Walt Disney Pictures films. Cardei012597 (talk) 16:41, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

@Cardei012597: Definitely, not. What you don't realize is that Disneynature is a French-American studio. Much of the production takes place in France. As such, the fact that Disney decided to scrap the American release of Blue (if Thrillest is actually a reliable source, which I'd question as much) does not render it defunct and un-listable here. Your comparison to Once Upon a Deadpool is a poor comparison. Blue is the film as it was going to be released...just released in France. It is not a redo/recut/revisit/special edition. It is the film as shot. Whether or not Dolphin Reef for Disney+ is the same movie, there are no sources for. No WP:OR on an online encyclopedia. For these reasons, I am reverting the edit to how it was before.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 17:14, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Disneynature (2019)

Stop removing sources and adding movie not released under the DisneyNature banner. Le Premier Cri was released by Disney France was not released under the DisneyNature banner. Spshu (talk) 23:03, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

@Spshu: The Thrillist is not a reliable source. In any way shape or form. Secondly this page is about productions that were made by Disneynature. Disneynature helped make Le Premier Cri. Plain as day. Therefore it should be on this page.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 01:36, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Additionally, 'whatsondisneyplus' is not by any means reliable either. That is a fan page.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 01:42, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Sorry but I have not seen a source that credits Disney Nature on Le Premier Cri. So it is not "Plain as day." that is worst then having a non-reliable source, your original research. You kept The Thrillist as a reliable source in your edits, so you do think that it is reliable. And I never said whatsondisneyplus is reliable. Spshu (talk) 12:45, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

@Spshu: once again, as I have stated. The film was released by Walt Disney Pictures France, in a joint production juncture with Disneynature Productions. That is plain as day. You want a source, I'll add one. To revert to that goppy messy format is deconstructive to the page. Likewise both Thrillist and whatsondisneyplus are poor sources. I have not added them - they need to be removed. They were added previously by another editor.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 15:05, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

How about stop parroting your last statement. No, it is not "plain as day." Personal preferences about tables doesn't make a table "goppy messy format". I suggest that you keep the basic table formatting, so it isn't hard for others to add rows. You are not moving the discussion forward. You have kept and moved the Thrillist source while removing one use of it. I told you I agree with you about whatsondisneyplus. Spshu (talk) 15:53, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

chroniquedisney.fr designated that it is an "an amateur site", so not a reliable source. Google Play doesn't indicate that it is a "Disneynature Productions". ratingraph.com doesn't seem reliable. filmaffinity.com shows: "Productora: Wild Bunch / Mai Juin Productions / M6 Films / Canal+ / M6" UniFrance: "Executive Producer : Mai Juin Productions ; Film exports/foreign sales : Wild Bunch ; Co-productions : M6 Films, Buena Vista International - Allemagne ; French distribution : Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures International (ex-Buena Vista International France)" and the press kits there do not list DisneyNature. VOD releases are Direct to video as it is in a digital format and seen in home or where a device can go. Spshu (talk) 22:21, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

@Spshu: there are no domesticated fowl in this conversation. Remember to Avoid Incivilty, Be professional, and Avoid condescension. The coding format is messy, in that it is cluttered. My edits were to clear up the coding format, in order to simplify for other editors. What I have stated are facts of production studios involved. Each of the sources provided list each of the production studios including Disneynature Productions. The film is a France-only release and so it is difficult to find an article breakdown of the studios involved. However, each of the sources provided lists Disneynature. The ratinggraph site is a reliable source - and a film production breakdown website. Additionally VOD is different from Home-video release/straight-to-video. VOD, though similar to direct-to-video in its approach as a "straight-to-consumer" product, is only available through streaming/online means. There is enough destinctive difference to render listing it as such. For each of these reasons, my editos need to remain. Cheers, bub.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 05:25, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Blue and Dolphin Reef

Do you have any proof of both movies being seperate? Luigitehplumber (talk) 13:33, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

The proof is in the creatives involved in the film. The co-production studio on Blue (Silverback Films) is not involved in any way, shape or form with Dolphin Reef. The producers on Blue were: Jane Hamlin, Keith Scholey, Ingrid Kvale, and Daniel Rasmussen; while the producers on Dolphin Reef are: Roy Conli, Alastair Fothergill, David S. Grant, Daniel Rasmussen, and Keith Scholey. Blue was co-directed by Keith Scholey and Alastair Fothergill, while Dolphin Reef is directed solely by Keith Scholey. What this tells any viewer, is that there are differing creatives involved. The two films, though both about dolphins, are different movies.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 02:10, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

The Invisible Man

There has been no announcements about the future of The Dark Universe and whether The Invisible man is apart of it, so please remove the information. Rusted AutoParts 21:58, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

You're incorrect, again @Rusted AutoParts:. The Dark Universe was simply re-evaluated, reconfigured to be a franchise of standalone feature films (just like the original Universal Classic Monsters). The studio has stated that for the time being they will focus on individual stories, instead of jumping right into crossovers (the Dark Universe original plan). Additionally, one of the graphic artists for the franchise provided updates as early as May of 2018. Along with all of this, when Leigh Whannell was announced to be writing/directing The Invisible Man, he inititally stated that he may use elements from Ed Solomon's original script, with the studio considering keeping Johnny Depp in the titular role. The Invisible Man is a part of the Dark Universe. Tabloids have commented on the franchise calling it "dead", but the studio's official stance is that they are taking a different approach with it.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 01:11, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

None of that cooberates it being in the Dark Universe. None of the sources from when Whannell joined had stated it’s in the same universe. That’s you assuming it is. You need reliable sources to bolster that claim and from my research nothing substantiated that. Rusted AutoParts 01:15, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

No, again @Rusted AutoParts: - the studio stated they are re-evaluating the franchise. The only thing that's changed is that instead of being a shared universe like MCU, it now consists of standalone feature films. The studio at no point has stated that the Dark Universe is dead. That's the fact. No assumptions there. Likewise the fact that they considered Johnny Depp up until a month ago is the fact that it's the same film, but a different writer/director. Projects evolve all the time. The graphic artist that met with heads of Universal regarding the franchise in May 2018 stated he is working on the designs for the monsters in the Dark Universe. This came as news following all the tabloids calling the franchise 'dead'. That's the facts. You cannot go off of opinion from tabloids. The studio is the only accurate source, here.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 20:54, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

You’re still supplying your own assumptions. The studio re-evaluating the Dark Universe is not confirmation this particular version is in any way tied to it. And you’ve just proven yourself wrong by saying only the studio is correct, which is absolutely right because the studio has not said it’s part of the Dark Universe. Rusted AutoParts 20:57, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

@Rusted AutoParts: no, the studio has stated that it's the same film. At no point have they said it's not. The franchise as a whole has changed - but the title has not. That's the factual statements we have. We do not have a statement from the studio saying that the franchise is no more. Until that happens, the title of the films is STILL Dark Universe.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 21:09, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Per Variety, January 2019: “The move is part of a fresh strategy for Universal’s monsters properties, bringing creative directors with distinctive visions to the classic characters and moving on from the interconnected Dark Universe concept. “Throughout cinematic history, Universal’s classic monsters have been reinvented through the prism of each new filmmaker who brought these characters to life,” said Peter Cramer, Universal’s president of production. “We are excited to take a more individualized approach for their return to screen, shepherded by creators who have stories they are passionate to tell with them.”

At no point in that statement does Universal say the Dark Universe is still the plan, a matter of fact they say the exact opposite. So until you table something more reliable that disputes that, you’re in the wrong. Rusted AutoParts 21:16, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

@Rusted AutoParts: The only thing that the President of Universal said was We are excited to take a more individualized approach for their return to screen, shepherded by creators who have stories they are passionate to tell with them...". That's exactly what I've been stating this entire time. I will provide my sources for what I have stated here, once I'm home.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 21:40, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

The quote utilises the word "individualised", which I don't get how it becomes interpreted to mean it's still in the Dark Universe. A google news search produces no reliable sources to say the Dark Universe isn't dead so I don't know what you could link that I haven't already seen. Rusted AutoParts 21:47, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

@Rusted AutoParts: you will just have to wait. I have re-titled the sub-section so that you will stop removing the films from this article, friend. Cheers bub. --DisneyMetalhead (talk) 21:51, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

And whatever you wish to link, please do so in this this discussion. Rusted AutoParts 21:52, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

So you don't have time to supply sources but you do have time to reinstate your preferred version just tinkered with. Rusted AutoParts 22:02, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

It is poor form to talk about another editor on another discussion other than their talk page. I appreciate you however for pinging me at that discussion. The series of events of The Invisible Man are factually as follows:

• script developed by Ed Solomon
• Johnny Depp cast in the role
• Dark Universe stalls production on The Bride of Frankenstein due to script changes/revisions.
• production crew for Bride continues to be hired
• Jason Blum publically states he'd love to 'shepherd'/work on the future of the Dark Universe [1][2]
• Jason Blum is hired to develop/produce/oversee Invisible Man w/President of Universal stating they will focus on individualized story-telling moving forward.
• A new director/writer is hired
• New cast is hired.

Nowhere has Universal announced the Dark Universe as 'dead', like you keep referencing. --DisneyMetalhead (talk) 19:45, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Those last three points completely undo your stance. As I’ve linked here and on the films article the Universal head has said it’s going to be individualized going forward, so how do you see that as confirmation it’s apart of the Dark Universe? Sure, no direct line saying verbatim “Dark Universe is dead” has been said (despite the Universal person basically implying it), but in the same vein no line of dialogue saying “The Invisible Man is apart of the Dark Universe” has been either, so stop saying it is. Rusted AutoParts 20:06, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

@Rusted AutoParts: you repeat to tell me what to do... "stop saying it is" ...though there is no statements anywhere that Dark Universe is a dead franchise. We cannot assume it is without the studio stating as much. That's as basic and straightforward as you can get. I'm sorry, but standalone installments does not equal a new franchise.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 03:14, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

”I'm sorry, but standalone installments does not equal a new franchise”. What are you talking about? When did I ever say that? I’m ensuring the article doesn’t saying anything about franchises, not trying to establish it as being part of a new one. It’s standalone, meaning it doesn’t belong to either a new franchise OR the Dark Universe. No sources have been published saying it is part of the DU that’s what I’ve been trying to get across this entire time. Rusted AutoParts 03:49, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

@Rusted AutoParts: UPDATE: Here is a recent interview that is noteworthy. iO9 recently did a press interview Chris Morgan during the release of Fast and Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw. In the interview the discussion turned towards Dark Universe. Morgan had originally been tapped as one of the co-runners/co-architects of the franchise, only to walk away after the studio decided to re-evaluate the situation. Repeatedly in the article, it states that there have been a couple of attempts at a shared universe scenario, only to have various iterations of angles to take with it. Morgan said this: "I don’t [have] regrets or anything like that ... I think it’s just, you know, I think it probably was trying to come together too quickly, I would say. And I think everyone got to take a breath and take a step back and take a look at it, and now just focus on maybe doing it a little bit slower ... I think Universal’s going about the monster films the right way, which is to really focus on taking a good script, good story, put it out there, if you’re going to build a universe build it from something strong like that. And I think they’re not so much worried about putting a universe out there as they are making great monster films, so I’m looking forward to seeing them". All these things again re-state what I have been saying this entire time. The studio hasn't dropped the Dark Universe film studio, nor have they dropped the title of the name they have given this film franchise. Morgan states it plain as day here. This interview was from July 30, 2019. That's as recent as it can get. No more need to debate anymore (reference).--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 05:27, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Second UPDATE: Morgan has once again discussed the future 'plans/gameplan' for the Dark Universe. In an interview with Coming Soon he stated, "I think with the Dark Universe the lesson that became very clear was putting it all together too quickly as a universe. It doesn’t naturally want to happen that way. It wants to happen with one movie that’s great, and then you let that build love and support and grow it. And I think that’s the lesson that Universal and we have taken away. Now it’s kind of the way that those monster movies are rolling out. Build it with love and care." (reference). The franchise is obviously not 'dead' as has been the debate here since your first message. I will also leave this at the discussion link you provided.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 15:44, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kindergarten Cop (film series) (September 11)

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by AngusWOOF was: This submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: These are two different film series and are not part of the Kindergarten Cop series. They might have been inspired from each other but that doesn't mean they are related. Please discuss at the talk page.

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October 2019

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did on Scream 3. This violates Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:19, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Please stop adding unsourced production companies. Like any other content on Wikipedia, this needs need to properly sourced. Just because someone's logo shows up during the credits does not make them a production company – they could have almost any level involvement, from being an investor to being a distributor to being a production company. This is why we use secondary sources to determine the production companies. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:26, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

@NinjaRobotPirate: .... All I changed was the formatting of the production studio to exactly how it appears on-screen during the movie.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 01:05, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

You added unsourced production companies based on your own original research. I'm not sure how to make this clearer than I already have. You need to cite a source for production companies. Companies whose logo flash on the screen might be production companies, but they might not be. Do you understand this so far? They might not be production companies just because their logo showed up on the screen or on the poster. This happens sometimes. They might be distributors, they might be investors, they might be contractually obligated to appear there because they brokered a deal – who knows. So don't copy the names of every company that appears and assume that they're all production companies. Cite a source that labels them as such. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:37, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

@NinjaRobotPirate: I did not misunderstand you the first time. In response to your comments, I would state that you need to review the WP:CIVIL guidelines. Namely: WP:CIVIL - Avoiding Incivility; bullets 3, & 9 where it states:

"3. Try not to get too intense. Passion can be misread as aggression, so take great care to avoid the appearance of being heavy-handed or bossy. Nobody likes to be bossed about by an editor who appears to believe that they are "superior"; nobody likes a bully.
9. Avoid appearing to ridicule another editor's comment. Even if you see the comment as ridiculous, he or she very probably doesn't, and expressing ridicule is likely only to offend and antagonize, rather than helping."

Again, you didn't lose me the first time. I simply disagree with you. All I did was changed the studio's type-font/formatting/stylization as it were on-screen. Cheers mate.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 18:28, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

No, that's not what you did. You added unsourced production companies. See Special:Diff/919258216. Do you see the part where two new production companies were added? Miramax and Dimensions Films were not there previously. Your edit added them. That is not changing the stylization; that is adding unsourced content. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 18:34, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Star Wars

If you're going to say "but there was a discussion", then do editors the courtesy of linking it, else your words have little meaning. Besides, all your edit did was include the raw colour-less film table in the article instead of transcluding it, and rearrange the prose. No change as to how the tables "should be formatted". -- /Alex/₂₁ 08:52, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

I see you've been active since my talk page post. A reply would be appreciated. What is to stop the table you've listed existing at the films article and being transcluded to the parent article, as I had it? -- /Alex/₂₁ 12:29, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

I actually fell asleep in the middle of doing some things on here last night @Alex 21:, so here I am responding now. There was a lengthy discussion among various editors that was ongoing for some time. What was decided among all of them, was the consensus to have the films in this layout that I reverted your edits to. Though it would be 'courteous' to link it in the comments section, as you pointed out - it can also be found in the talk page. Sorry, but you can find it there. The formatting, I am referring to is without the colors, and the formatting of the text in the titles. The transclusion you are talking about is a discussion on a totally different article. Whether it has occurred there or not -I do not know. Arguably the articles should have similar layout/format across each of them. All I know sir, is that there was a large discussion regarding the formatting of the table here. I have set it back to what was agreed upon. Cheers.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 16:07, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Also, the reason the colored versions were decided as fan-page territory as there is far too much going on in a film table with such an arrangement. It was discussed, once again at great length within the talk-page.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 16:11, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

That's nice that there was a discussion, but if you cite it as consensus, then you need to cite the actual discussion. I could say that there was a discussion to delete all Star Wars-related articles and there was a consensus for it, but I would have to actually link it, wouldn't I? Either way, my main issue wasn't with the layout, but the transclusion that you reverted, which applied to both articles, which I have restored. All the best. -- /Alex/₂₁ 22:12, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

@Alex 21: that's not how this works. It's not my job to direct you to all discussions that have occurred. There have been numerous editors involved in the discussion. You can go looking for it, and instead of bossing me around -- review the guidelines for WP:CIVIL #Avoiding Incivility, bullet #8: Avoid condescension. Review that, and then go look for the discussion yourself. Cheers.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 03:16, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Yes it is. You state that something happened, you have to support it. I didn't say "all", I said "one". Burden's on you. Verify your statements. Catch up. Cheers. -- /Alex/₂₁ 03:21, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

And again, WP:CIVIL #Avoiding incivility, bullet #8: Avoid condescension. This is a guideline you need to revisit. Stop talking down to other editors, bub. Cheers.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:31, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

WP:BURDEN. Verify your statements. This is a policy you need to revisit, bud. "bub". Lol. By the way, there was a discussion banning the use of Disney in usernames. Take my word for it. -- /Alex/₂₁ 05:20, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

@Alex 21 / AlexTheWhovian / Alex^TW.... Now you're being petty. I'm not taking your WP:BAIT. Thanks anyway.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 18:28, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

What are you talking about? Is that a reply to my last comment? That was almost two weeks ago... If you're talking about how the table was modified again, point me to where I made the edits. I'll wait. -- /Alex/₂₁ 21:05, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

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@Darkknight2149: Thank you for finally filing this. The sooner it starts, the sooner it can end. I have responded to your investigation on the noticeboards, to @Jack Sebastian: in their comments below/hereafter, and will simply state - again, that I have not sought to fight anyone. I have attempted to preserve/update an article that I have interest/passion in. My only goal is to improve articles/pages here on WP. My comment regarding IP addresses, is simply due to the fact that I have no idea how these SPI's are resolved. My limited technological knowledge led me to assume that this is how it is resolved. I again restate, that I do not personally know @Popfox3:, nor are they me. I stand by that and look forward to this investigation bringing this to light. I respect you as an editor, and hope that future contributions to various articles are collaborative. Cheers m8!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 01:48, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Regarding evidence

I am not taking a position in this discussion, as I was not involved since its inception and am aware of it only from afar. I will say that your editing behavior in DC Extended Universe has been - in the very kindest of descriptions - has been problematic. Continually challenging an emerged consensus is fractious and abrasive. While consensus can change, it does so over time as new referenced information emerges. It does not change simply because some of the people arguing a different point of view appear to leave the article.
I think you may have misunderstood your role as editor in Wikipedia. While you may act single in the creation of articles and wiki-gnoming, you are here to work collaboratively with others. You have not been doing that, and I think you can feel that tension you have engendered between yourself and other contributors - totally the opposite feeling you should be getting. You have not yet learned to walk away from a disagreement; whether that is because its the internet and there are no RL, physical consequences for being disagreeable or whether yiu are just young and have tied up who you are with your viewpoints, I do not know. I just know the results. You are being argumentative in a website where people come here (without any sort of remuneration) to try and create something lovely. The ultimate question that can be asked of any user is whether they are a net positive or a net drag on the Project. I cannot answer that question for you, but the position of others is very, very clear. You need to take a very hard look at how you edit here, and decide whether this place makes you happy.
The only thing I will say as to the relationship between you and Popfox3 is that if you are indeed the same person, you absolutely need to get out in front of this. Now. You are young, and the young make mistakes. If you cannot demonstrate the moral integrity to admit a mistake that you doubled-down on, your ejection from the Project will not be indefinite; it will be permanent. Time is not your friend in this, so if you made a mistake, deal with it immediately. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 00:04, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

I appreciate your efforts in reaching out to me, @Jack Sebastian:. I 'ping' you in this response, because perhaps I am not sure how "notifications" through Wikipedia work (i.e.: Should I be pinging you, or are you notified simply by responding? I'm not sure of the answer). I have not meant in any way to cause friction, nor to be combative. My efforts in posting new/updated sources at DC Extended Universe simply come from a passion for the topic, as well as interest in seeing the article become a better in quality. I acknowledged in the discussion - as you saw that the article -obviously- needs some work. The fact that it doesn't have an official name is indeed frustrating, among other things. There are a handful of editors who in general seem to disagree with me and now they are "coming out of the woodworks" so to speak. I anticipated this in requesting admin assistance. However, I stand by what I said regarding @Popfox3:. I do not know thme personally, nor are they me. My statement regarding their IP address was my naive expectation that somehow IPs could be looked at and resolve the debate. In fact I have no idea how SockPuppetry claims are resolved. I don't know how to 'prove this' to anyone, but reaffirm that I have one account, one username, and one log-in. Thanks again for your time and for your help. I am not "young" as you have stated several times, but I am not at all tech-savvy.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 01:41, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

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About the AN/I thread about you

Specifically this one. Writing as an admin who is closing this discussion, I'm concerned that you were indefinitely blocked 3 and ahalf years ago for making a legal threat; as of this moment you could be blocked again, per policy. But IMHO, that seems a bit silly because you haven't made that kind of threat since. (While I must comment on your aggressive tone, after looking over your recent history I don't see any serious actions like that one since your return.) Why don't you make your life on Wikipedia simpler by retracting that statement? Doing that would also be a favor to me. -- llywrch (talk) 20:31, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

I would "retract" the statement, though I don't know how that is done. It wasn't meant to be a 'threat' and in that old discussion I seem to remember several people stating that they didn't believe it was either. How do I go about doing what you have asked?--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 02:23, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Well, saying that you didn't expressing it as a legal threat works for me addresses that part of your statement. As for the other part, I have to admit that in my time here at Wikipedia I've not encountered a case exactly like this -- although I can't imagine it couldn't be done. Give me a bit of time to do a bit of research on this & get back to you. Or you could ask at WP:AN. -- llywrch (talk) 04:01, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

One matter I forgot to mention -- but my forgetfulness doesn't not mean it's not important -- is that you need to watch your current behavior. You need to try to be more civil in your interactions. I'm not going to lecture you about civility is better than being aggressive, but that civility helps you in persuading other people. Even if the other person is being a jerk. -- llywrch (talk) 05:30, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

@Llywrch: Thanks for the help. I can honestly say I've tried to be civil and collaborative in my edits. Everyone can always improve though, and so I'm trying even more so to be 'detached' from edits made.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 02:02, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

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@Lars.Dormans: Thanks for the recognition, and thanks for clarifying your auto-message that was posted here earlier. Appreciate it. Cheers m8!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 02:57, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

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DMH, I've told you many, many times that sources like CBM are unreliable and unacceptable for use on Wikipedia. Given that you continue to disregard these warnings, and have a long history of disruptive behavior around these types of articles, this is your final warning. If you do it again I'm reporting you to AN. JOEBRO64 19:55, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

@TheJoebro64: /TJB64, you've "told" me "many, many times" various things. Not always does one of your "unreliable" classifications fit. If a media source has an exclusive, or reports on news when another media source does not - this makes them the sole reporter. You needn't place a warning/threat on my talk page. Simply edit the source and state why it is your belief that the source is not reliable. Be WP:Peaceful and collaborative. You needn't jump to the umpteenth degree. I will look for additional sources regarding the information I placed in the article today. Cheers m8!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 20:18, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

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@NinjaRobotPirate: I am wondering which edits this was respective to? I have spent the last several hours editing a draft article I'm working on. Can you let me know what edits you are referring to? Thanks m8! DisneyMetalhead (talk) 06:14, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

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I warned you before about adding unsourced production companies to film articles. In this edit, you add unsourced production companies to the infobox without citing any sources. Template:Infobox film is pretty clear about this: "When possible, this should be cited to reliable secondary sources that explicitly identify the production companies." This is not some obscure underground film that has no database entries in reliable sources; we have a citation to the American Film Institute there already. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:28, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

@NinjaRobotPirate: I see what edits you are referring to. I will go in and add the sources that I used for the Cats & Dogs edits. I was going off of IMDb (and with each movie released I had thought that we can see that they are legitimate credits). I will however find additional second-party/reliable sources for each of them. I completely forgot, simply because I was working hard to finish a draft that I have been working on. I am sorry for the mis-step and for forgetting. My previous response was simply to clarify which of my edits you had blocked me for. I understand why it was done, and would like to correct the issue/find the sources.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 00:42, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Well, the IMDb is user-generated content, so it doesn't really matter what it says, and you shouldn't be copying its content here. If you want to find the production companies that worked on an American film, the AFI Catalog of Feature Films is a good place to start. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:35, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

I will start there and also look at other reliable sources. Isn't IMDb's mantra that the people behind creating a movie, post the information on the IMDb page?--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 20:34, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

The IMDb is crowd-sourced just like Wikipedia. I have read interviews with filmmakers who said IMDb users were either making wild, incorrect guesses or making up hoaxes. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:12, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

I have never heard this, before! Do you have the articles? I'd be interested in reading them. I will definitely look into the AFI source you recommended as well. Cheers!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 22:21, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

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@Alex 21: thanks for making me aware. I will contribute when I am able. Cheers, m8!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 05:25, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

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Universal Classic Monsters

Hi DisneyMetalhead, I've undid your revision of the this article. I posted discussions about it at WP:FILM and WP:HORROR. On several google searches I couldn't find much scholarly information on what qualified the Universal Classic Monsters as being part of a series. The only information I found specifically was that these characters were only really referred to this in the 1990s when a home video label was launched in order to make the series seem like a line of films. If you want to expand on it otherwise, please add sources, but otherwise, i've removed everything else that was unsourced and tried to split the films into their own articles. Even within that, some of them only seem loosely connected. (see Dracula (Universal film series) for an example of this. Andrzejbanas (talk) 04:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@Andrzejbanas: what you're referring to is a franchise. The Universal Classic Monsters is absolutely a franchise -though it may not have been called as such during the '20s-'50s in which the films were released. At this point in time they were "contemporary" horror/monster films. What makes them "Classic" is the fact that they are classic/retro films. The films share a continuity and should only include the films that Universal has placed under that franchise title/banner. The articles you have now been making for the sub-film series within the franchise/banner is fine. You shouldn't remove the information from the Universal Classic Monsters article, however. Recently, Universal has placed all other classic horror films within its library under a "Universal Classic Horror" banner as well. I will be working on that article in the future. Please restore the titles that fall under the Universal Classic Monsters moniker.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 05:20, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

You see that's the problem, you (like others have, see the talk page on the article) have said "oh no no no it's this! film series worked differently in the past!") but have not been able to back this up with any sources outside personal interpretations. If Universal (and others) have connected the films, what belongs in the series? What doesn't? When Universal created their "Universal Classic Monsters" home video, they even included non-Universal properties they had the rights to, like Island of Lost Souls. Does that belong in the series now? If so why? I've searched and searched to find a clear answer, and people have told me that "oh, Universal Horror is the same as Universal monsters") (if so, do non-monter movies get included? if so why? if not, why not?). These series are barely connected plotwise and even when creating the Dracula universal series, the few people I could find writing about the film as a series seriously, noted that only the first three films connect in any serious way, and even the third film was "iffy". Again, i've provided sources, everyone else who has called me up on it has yet to provide any research of their own to show how these connect and when the term was developed. Andrzejbanas (talk) 05:27, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@Andrzejbanas: I'm glad that someone is taking this bear head-on, as it is a really difficult mountain to climb. Where is your references for Universal including "Island of Lost Souls"? Universal Pictures (who has the rights to the franchise/banner/title) are the only ones that can tell you what and what does not fall into the Universal Classic Monsters franchise title. Whether the title existed back during the '20s-'50s or not, you're still missing the point. The franchise, is connected. It's now retrospectively often credited as one of the "first shared universes". As a franchise, it is a trademarked moniker. Further more, in your examples -- a film series also does not require itself to be directly connected to other films in its title.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 05:35, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Sure, here's an Entertainment Weekly article from 1993 noting Island of Lost Souls as n entry into the series. Also, I'm not saying it has to be connected, but I'm saying it's such a loose connection, I've only added what I've found. I know the series is often connected and referred to, but I can't find anyone clarifying what exactly should and should not be in it outside the articles I've found. And all of them really only discuss the series in terms of it being a home video line that was made to "make the films seem connected" (i.e: a nice way of saying to sell more product) You'll have to provide some sort of back-up here. Andrzejbanas (talk) 05:41, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I can not tell you why in 1993 Paramount Pictures' film was printed with "The Universal Studios Monsters Classic Collection" classification on it (though something mentioning this in the pros of the article would suffice). This however happens with distribution rights, and Universal seems to have purchased the re-distribution rights at this point in time... we would have to confirm this obviously, but given the fact that it was re-released as such - this is a strong indicator of this fact. Secondly, clarifying within the article that various sources of the time mentioned that the films were re-released to portray the fact that the films are more connected than they are. Needless to say, we cannot overstep the studio's classification of what is in the franchise and what is not. We will find plenty sources clarifying what is in the Universal Classic Monsters. Give me time, m8!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 05:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

It's also worth noting that the VHS collection, is referred to (with a logo) as "Universal Studios Monsters". This seems to be a less-definitive classification, whereas the "Universal Classic Monsters" is more specific and limited in its films that are included.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 05:53, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Which again suggests that Universal is very back and forth on what these films are. But sure, I hear you. If that's the case the only time I really see the term used sepcifically this way (this is original research here, but we're just chatting, not editing an article yet ;) ) is when Univeral re-released the films on DVD to promote Van Helsing in 2004. They've had several variations on the term "Universal Classic Monsters" or such for various home video lines. And of course please no rush, i'm just saying good luck! :) It's a complicated thing and I've bene slowly going through horror films of the 1930s and 1940s and mannnn people do not like to discuss these series as a whole. Understandably so. As these films went on, their plots often contradict each other, characters who re-appear sometimes have their names changed, it's a real mess. I wouldn't be against trying to write up some article on "Universal Horror" as opposed to the monsters a whole, as that's far more loose and probably gives more definition to what the style of these films are opposed to trying to connect these stories in my head which is its own migraine. Andrzejbanas (talk) 05:57, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@Andrzejbanas: I would say that the previous variations of the term are more of a descriptive word. "Universal Studios Monsters" isn't a franchise title. The official naming of the slate of films to be Universal Classic Monsters happened at one point or another. A section describing how the studio had released earlier variations suffices, and even listing those films that are semi-random in the VHS collection (as you pointed out) would be constructive. I will further assist with this when I have a moment. Right this second I am working on various drafts for other articles. I've been adding details to the Dark Universe page and that, in itself is a beast of its own. I will do some searching for this article a little later tonight. Cheers m8!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 01:23, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

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This is good, as the article was merged with the film series article (which I hadn't known was already a thing).--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 20:49, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

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Draft:Army of the Dead (franchise)

Why did you removed the games section in the cast? I get it isn't part of the films and television but other franchises do have games in this section if à character from the films appear. For example the Mad Max franchise.

User:Derjenigederzukunftseht; the reason I removed the video game from the cast, is because typically they are considered "other media". Video games are more 'unofficial' anyhow. Also, you need to sign your comments.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 18:49, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

User:DisneyMetalhead; I mean nah. Of course they're other media but they're still official. I mean Snyder worked on this title so... If you have no problems with it I'll add it again. And delete the chronology section. I have no idea from where does the person have the information that they have to create a section like this. And thanks. I didn't knew I have to sign my comments. I don't really know how to do it. So I'll try --Derjenigederzukunftseht Derjenigederzukunftseht (talk) 21:35, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

@Derjenigederzukunftseht: I would suggest taking its inclusion to the talk page... video games are not typically included in cast tables. Additinally, as you state that Znyder created the VR game - you will need a source stating this. Additionally that chronology table should be deleted. Otherwise a reliable source is also needed for it. Cheers m8!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 21:49, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

@DisneyMetalhead: yeah I know that. But they're there if the story of it is canon to the films or actors or characters come back. I didn't said that Snyder created the game but he worked on it with his production company. It was in the trailer for it. And I don't know how to refrence YT videos. And I deleted the chronology table. Cheers and thanks for this little talk. Also a question. When will the draft be put for review? Have a nice day/evening/night! --Derjenigederzukunftseht Derjenigederzukunftseht (talk) 23:44, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

@Derjenigederzukunftseht: anything that is added to the article needs to be sourced. Share the link of the video that you're talking about, here. As-is without the source, the VR is just 'other media'. The article can be submitted for review once it is finished/has enough sources for all of these extra things that editors are adding.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 20:38, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

@DisneyMetalhead: thanks for answering :). Here is link to the trailer of the VR Expierence https : // you tu .be / rGoq3X4QeKQ (played with the link that it can be sent) and here is link to the website where is logo of Snyder's production company https://armyofthedeadvr.com/. Derjenigederzukunftseht (talk) 21:25, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

• Ahhh, I see. This isn't even a video game, it's an event/experience. This should be listed in an entirely different section altogether.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 21:27, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

I mean it kinda is a video game. But yeah it's an VR experience. What section should it be lestés to? The Stone Quarry Wikipedia page is listing it as a game. Derjenigederzukunftseht (talk) 21:37, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

It could be listed as a game/experience under the "In other media" section. It'd probably be best done in a paragraph format where it details how it works/studios involved/etc.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 21:59, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

OK thanks mate. I'm not a good person to do that unfortunately. You clearly see how my English isn't that good. And yeah. I'm trying to do the best and to write the most correct things on that page. One more time thank you. Derjenigederzukunftseht (talk) 22:16, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

@Derjenigederzukenftseht: I will hope back over to the draft when I have a minute and look at what has been added. Cheers m8!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 08:08, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

@DisneyMetalhead: thanks mate, cheers! And have a great day/evening/night!-- Derjenigederzukunftseht (talk) 13:44, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Update: @Derjenigederzukenftseht: I have submitted this draft article for review after some extensive cleanup and adding various references.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 14:25, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

@DisneyMetalhead: I saw it. And it got made. That's amazing. And about those related short films. I have no idea how to find a relatable source when those are extras on Dawn of the Dead 2004 DVDs and Blu-rays. Those also are uploaded to YouTube by some guys but it's not official release. Only source I could find of them existing is Imdb and this forum. Ah and The Lost Tape Andy's Terrifying Last Days Revealed is also in Zack Snyder's filmography Wikipedia page. I can try to dig deeper but have no idea if I find anything. Derjenigederzukunftseht (talk) 15:38, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

@Derjenigederzukunftseht: Keep looking. There should be an official release or article about them somewhere. Try looking to see if there is an article about the home video release. Cheers m8! --DisneyMetalhead (talk) 00:30, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

@DisneyMetalhead: I'll do it mate! Thanks. Cheers Derjenigederzukunftseht (talk) 02:00, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

@DisneyMetalhead: https://bluray.highdefdigest.com/48878/dawn_dead_ce.html as of now this review is the only thing that I found. And They doesn't talk about the short films at all just listed them with other extras and The Lost Tape:Andy's Terrifying Last Days Revealed is on the extras called Andy's Lost Tape for short. Derjenigederzukunftseht (talk) 02:12, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

In this review those shorts are listed and shortly described. The Lost Tape: Andy's Terrifying Last Days Revealed is here still shortened to Andy's Lost Tape https://weliveentertainment.com/we-live-entertainment/bluray-digital-dvd-news/dawn-dead-2004-scream-factory-blu-ray-review/

Do you think this could be added as a reference? Derjenigederzukunftseht (talk) 02:22, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

@Derjenigederzukunftseht: those are fine resources as they are first-hand reviews of the home video release. The only one of the 3 that you have been adding that is actually a 'short film' however is Andy’s Lost Tape. If you read the review on the [3] source, the other two ones are "behind the scenes featurettes" which don't really belong on this page. Additionally, as Dawn of the Dead is not in this continuity, the only reason it is listed on this page under "related film" is because this franchise is a "spiritual sequel" to Dawn. Anything about this one short featurette film probably shouldn't be listed in its own section. We may need a new discussion at the Talk:Army of the Dead (franchise) article to see how to best include that one small bonus feature. You'll want to start a conversation there and pin me, as well as all other recent contributors. I would, but I'm constantly working on multiple drafts between my personal life events. Cheers m8!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 17:31, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

@DisneyMetalhead: well not exactly. I watched all 3 on my Blu-ray. And Special Report: Zombie Invasion chronicles the first 26 hours of the Zombie pandemic. And in it are some of the news reports saw on screen in the film. Like the one with Tom Savini. And the Undead and Loving it: A Mockumentary is a 5 minutes long mockumentary on how it was to work with real zombies on the set. That they were slower and that kind of stuff. But the rest of the specials are behind the scenes. And yeah those are 2 separate universes but I thought that it sh9be listed as it's connected with Dawn. And thank you :). I'll start the discussion on the talk page and I'll pin you there,but not today. I'm going to sleep now here's 12am now. Again thanks and I get it have fun doing those drafts and have a great day/night/evening. Cheers mate! :) Derjenigederzukunftseht (talk) 22:04, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Universal Horror titles

Hello. Two things. Just curious where you are getting these "official" and "real title" information from when you've been editing the some of the older Universal titles. The current article on the Universal Classic Monsters section sets right out that it's a home video line. Nothing has been added otherwise that suggests anything else. So why did you add those other titles? Andrzejbanas (talk) 14:33, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

@Andrzejbanas: as has been stated ad nauseam on talk page... perceptions is not at all what determines how an article should be made. The purpose of this article is to include all of the Universal Classic Monsters and the previous packagings/collections. The official titles that I adjusted was The Bride of Frankenstein. As you can see on the poster, this is indeed the official title. Cheers m8!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 19:39, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Yeah but you had no source on "official titles" where did the information come from? Half of them the poster said the opposite of what you said. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:06, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

@Andrzejbanas: frankly, what are you talking about? Please provide specifics. I don't have any clue what you man by "half of them the poster said the opposite of what you said". What movies are you referring to with that declarative statement, m8? Each of the titles I adjusted... specifically The Bride of Frankenstein, I got the title from the film poster.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 23:16, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Sure. here, here just to name a few. Andrzejbanas (talk) 08:09, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

@Andrzejbanas: I see. Those are indeed the official titles. What do I have to explain about this? Look at the posters for the Edgar Allen Poe films, and then look up the official title of the Spanish Language Dracula.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 17:08, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

I've watched the Spanish Dracula from the Universal blu-ray. There is no accent. And the current poster has no accent. and it's not referred to the title with the accent. Same for the other other films when I recently did research. I'd try to get some more attention from WP:FILM to see what others say here. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:57, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Resume the conversation on the talk page. The film has an accent mark because it is in Spanish. It is credited as such on several film sites as well.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 19:43, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

You seem to be conflating film sites and posters with the actual films themselves. Attic Salt (talk) 23:34, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

@Attic Salt: please take this discussion back to the talk page as previously stated. Cheers m8!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 23:37, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

The issue is not the articles, for which I might use the article talk pages, but you. You are making changes to article about movies that are inconsistent with the movies. Please stop this, and please revert your mistakes. Thank you. Attic Salt (talk) 23:39, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

@Attic Salt: there is a discussion there, which is why I have requested that you take your statements/opinions there. I have not made any mistakes in listing the films with their official titles per the posters and film sites as well. If you feel this is an error, once again take this to the film articles' pages where there are discussions ongoing. Cheers again m8s!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 23:50, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Excuse me, but you need to participate in the discussion at Bride of Frankenstein. You've dropped out of that discussion while your mistakes are being discussed there. Attic Salt (talk) 23:57, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

All's Well That Ends Well (cit.) "reverting recent BOLD, but under-discussed move" @Netoholic: said --Kasper2006 (talk) 06:47, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the update, and for being collaborative. Cheers m8s!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 14:24, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

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Hello, just a heads-up that you should check for existing move requests before changing page names. You moved Thomas Lennon (filmmaker) to Thomas Lennon (filmmaker, born 1951), but a previous RM in 2017 was found to be against moving the article to that title. As for your move of Thomas Lennon to Thomas Lennon (filmmaker, born 1970), there was a previous RM that resulted in that article's current undisambiguated title. As a result, these pages shouldn't be moved without a new discussion. Nohomersryan (talk) 03:30, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

The moves were made on the basis of being bold. The current status of various articles with the same name is confusing. I will discuss further, on their talk pages. Cheers m8!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 03:34, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. I don't object to boldness if no one has touched the pages. After all, I moved Thomas Lennon (screenwriter) to Thomas Lennon (screenwriter, born 1896) way back when. But shuffling an existing WP:PRIMARYTOPIC setup is usually controversial and requires an rm, especially if one has already happened, going against one can devolve into a semi-wheelwar. Nohomersryan (talk) 03:38, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

I noticed you had made the move on one of the articles. I didn't see it being controversial as it is only intended to add clarity and simplify the overly-complex nature of the disambiguation page. I will take to the talk articles. --DisneyMetalhead (talk) 03:48, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

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• I definitely did NOT copy and paste any article draft, to create my own. Looking over what you have stated -- it seems that the previous draft (that I was completely unaware of) used the same sources as I did, and given the fact that the sources alone are few and lacking in detail -- the key points of the source were used by the both of us. I apologize for the mistake, but I genuinely didn't see/know there was another draft already in development.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 19:52, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

PS - had I known there was a draft, I would have simply added to it and then moved it to the mainspace. I have plenty of experience adding to articles and/or moving them to the mainspace. Again, I apologize that I didn't see the previous draft. I had only seen the "film adaptation" details on the books/novel pages.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 19:53, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

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Help making page for Draft:Machiko Noguchi? Molarium (talk) 11:57, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

@Molarium: I have zero knowlegdge of this topic, and after looking at the article it appears as though this would be a page about a fictional character(?). Generally I don't see the value in articles about characters, and would argue that the character should be discussed on the page that deals with the comic book series, but you're going to need a lot of reliable sources as well.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 22:55, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

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Hi DisneyMetalhead, you've recently added a PROD tag to Mufasa: The Lion King, which is currently a redirect. WP:PROD "cannot be used with redirects", although you can use {{Db-move}} (it'll also be faster!). I've removed the tag for now. Thanks for your contributions and happy editing! Justiyaya 13:14, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks m8! That'll be nice to have completed. I have put the Db-move request there as suggested. Cheers m8!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 05:30, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

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I have asked for the DC Universe (franchise) page to be deleted, however it seems my proposal will fail. If that happens I would start a discussion to seek consensus on whether to separate the Gunn and Safran's projects from the DCEU article, because having them in both articles will be redundant. However I would suggest including the upcoming 4 films in some way. Just a heads up so there isn't another dispute. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 11:51, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Other users have already removed Gunn and Safran's projects and it seems without any discussion, which is problematic. Regardless I have no energy left for arguing with more people so I'm not going to try to argue with them. User consensus can decide whatever it wants. Anyway I hope you have a good day. Cheers! Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 01:13, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

I agree that it was premature for editors to move things, as we discussed last night. I have taken to the talk page with an update from Gunn where he states that he is not rebooting the DCEU, and that The Flash doesn't reset everything. I will try to go in and re-add those projects with that update from Gunn. The DC Universe (franchise) article has no grounds at this point. Hope to continue working on the article with you and all the other editors in peace and collaboration. Cheers m8!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:33, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Don't try to add the projects back on your own for right now. I would have done it myself, but it's clear some users are insistent on separating the articles. Let's discuss first and have consensus. Or this can turn into a full-scale edit war. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 04:50, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

I agree with that. I WP:BOLDly reverted the edits and have since taken to each of the discussions with Gunn's new comment/clarification. You'll see my comments at each of those talk page discussions.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 05:02, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

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Hello. We don't ever add mentions of characters to "Cast". Cast means "the actors in a film, play, or show". Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 17:32, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

@Roman Reigns Fanboy: From what I had seen he features in a still photograph. I'll have to find a better source. Cheers m8!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 17:44, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

If you have seen the movie, you can see the character in a still image playing football (helmet obscuring the stand-in actor, as Ray Fisher did not reprise the role). Still searching for a reliable ref for this one.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 13:29, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

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Hello, DisneyMetalhead,

I see that you have a number of draft articles that will be deleted in a few hours. They are about film franchises. I looked on your user talk page to see if there were messages from Firefly Bot but these drafts are several years old at this point so I guess you got the 5 month notices in past years. So, I don't know if you are keeping your own record of your draft articles that you have been working on. You can find the August 6th list of expiring drafts at this page, so maybe if you scan the list, you can identify your drafts in case you want to keep them. If they are already deleted, you can request their restoration at WP:REFUND. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:54, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

@Liz: Is it common for the articles being proposed for deletion to not be notified the way that some of these weren't? I am working on getting these drafts reinstated. I do keep a list of the ones I am working on, but had some unexpected personal events come up that took up my time. Thanks for notifying me.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 15:35, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

WP:REFUND requests

That's a lot. I know not all, perhaps most, won't be ready to be reviewed to be an article any time soon, as they are about projects that aren't even started. Are you sure you want them all restored? Do you have updates ready for all of them? - UtherSRG (talk) 16:14, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

@UtherSRG: There are updates, and additional information that I need to add to each of them. They are all works-in-progress currently.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 16:46, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Ok. Looks like another admin has performed the restores. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:56, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Except for the two typos in your requests. :) You fixed one, and I fixed the other. I've restored the two additional articles. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:00, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

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I Wikilinked the three films to the new series page. I think there are other places where Wikilinks could be added but will save that for you. Cheers!--CNMall41 (talk) 21:12, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

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Your LDS-related page moves are controversial, please discuss them

Hello,

You moved a number of pages from the Latter Day Saints spelling to Latter-day Saints. However there is a long-standing convention at Wikipedia that the first spelling is for topic related to the Latter Day Saint movement as a whole, and the second spelling to the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

This is too uncontroversial to be done without discussion, especially after you have been reverted once.

If your reasons are good, you will most probably succeed in changing the name of these pages. However, you should not engage in edit warring, especially do not start a page-move war.

Please discuss at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Latter Day Saint movement and/or Talk:Latter Day Saint movement. Place Clichy (talk) 18:06, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

User:Place Clichy I did not think that the moves would be controversial. I have simply been trying to get all the articles fixed (as there are many of them). While there are sects of churches that go by "Latter Day Saints", the articles that I had changed seemed to be related to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints instead. I was simply trying to be accurate, and helpful. I will follow your suggestions.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 18:08, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

I have no doubt that you want to be helpful. However, many pages start with a notice like this one on Temple (Latter Day Saints):

This page is about temples in the Latter Day Saint movement. For temples only in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, see Temple (LDS Church).

There's even a hidden commentary visible when you edit the page: <!-- Note to editors, Latter-day Saint refers specifically to the largest, Utah-based denomination. When referring to history shared amongst other denominations use Latter Day Saint -->.

Discussion is now open at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Latter Day Saint movement § Latter Day Saints or Latter-day Saints?. Place Clichy (talk) 18:14, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

I didn't realize the commentary notes, as I thought it had been an oversight in editing (as some pages tend to have). I apologize, and appreciate you tagging me in the discussion.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 18:37, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

There sure can be things to fix on many pages! . I never thought otherwise. Always assume good faith and be civil, that can get you a long way! Happy editing. Place Clichy (talk) 18:45, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

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A title is a title

"DisneyMetalhead moved page Talk:Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town (film) to Talk:Santa Claus is Comin' to Town (TV special): corrected spelling (per the official logo the 'i' in "is" should be lower-case; also correcting article to be a TV special as this is what the release was"

A title is a title. The standards of upper and lower cases are not affected by the font used in the artwork for a title. For the same reason the "t" in "to" isn't uppercase as shown on the TV special's title page, the "i" in "Is" is uppercase. MOS:TITLECAPS milladrive (talk) 16:39, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

I have moved the page to its correct title, with the parenthetical still being (TV special), but the capitalized Is per MOS:TITLECAPS, which is what dictates capitalization in titles, not stylizations in marketing pieces such as posters. —El Millo (talk) 18:04, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Very good. It seems the same case alteration has been made to The Easter Bunny Is Comin' to Town. milladrive (talk) 18:52, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Fixed as well. —El Millo (talk) 19:47, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

...@Milladrive: "a title is a title" and yet the copyright logo appears on the official logo creens of these TV specials. My main reason for moving the article title was the fact that it is a television special and not a film. Thank you @Facu-el Millo: for moving the article to this space.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 05:07, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

The copyright symbol simply means the project has been copyrighted. The whole project was copyrighted by Videocraft International, Ltd., in 1970. That copyright symbol has almost no relation to the title font in the artwork on the title screen.

Again, I point to MOS:TITLECAPS, which is what dictates capitalization in titles at Wikipedia.

Further, that is a title page, not an "official logo". Very different. :)

I do agree that changing it to "TV special" was the right thing to do. It's still technically a film (nearly all videos are), but calling it a TV special is more precise. milladrive (talk) 17:38, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

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February 2024

Please stop. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at Sony's Spider-Man Universe, you may be blocked from editing. You have already been reverted for removing Hardy's image several times in the past, and its inclusion has been explained to you in said reverts AND at the talk page. Refer back to those and cease your disruptive removals without proper cause or justification. Trailblazer101 (talk) 08:41, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

@Trailblazer101: the reasons for including Hardy's image (and only his) on the article have made no sense whatsoever. I am not intentionally being "disruptive" -- nor did I "blank out" anything. I will take to the talk page (again). Cheers m8!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 00:01, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

See my response on the talk. Trailblazer101 (talk) 05:14, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

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Proposed updates for Dark Castle Entertainment

Hi DisneyMetalhead, I am trying to update the Dark Castle Entertainment article. I see that you contributed to the article in the past, and I'm hoping you will be interested in helping to update the page. Would you please consider implementing the edit request I posted at Talk:Dark Castle Entertainment#Proposed updates? Thanks for your help, DJ for Katz (talk) 15:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

I went there and commented. Cheers m8! DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:11, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi Disneymetalhead, I hope you are well. A while back you looked over my suggested changes for Dark Castle Entertainment and concluded that they were not controversial. I waited a while for other editors to weigh in, and when no one did, I made the changes to the article. Yesterday, another editor reverted them saying that I hadn't been given permission to make the edits (I presume referring to my COI). If you have a minute, would you make the edits yourself? I believe the issue was with my editing directly, not with the content, and that the changes genuinely improve the article. Thanks again for your help! DJ for Katz (talk) 15:47, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Knives Out (film series). Thanks! Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:34, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

The page has now been moved to the main space by an editor. What was your comment? DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:11, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

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Hi, I see you've contributed a lot to John Henry (folklore), would you be interested in joining a taskforce on oral tradition? Kowal2701 (talk) 09:47, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

I would certainly not be opposed! What are we looking to accomplish, m8? DisneyMetalhead (talk) 01:44, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Generally to improve Wikipedia’s coverage of oral tradition, but there’s loads of resources to be made like a style guide, instructions for recording and writing about an oral tradition, assessment tables, furthering WP:oral citations experiment etc. The objectives or goals haven’t been clarified yet (like the number of featured and good articles we’re aiming for), but we’d like to have progress bars like at WP:MILHIST Kowal2701 (talk) 06:43, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

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August 2024

Hello, I'm Andrzejbanas. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Your edit to the Inner Sanctum Mysteries adds a second title card (why? what information is needed here?) unsourced genres, unsourced cast and crew. The previous material was sourced, the current version you've added has not been. Andrzejbanas (talk) 11:53, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Hey there! Just got back from a weekend getaway. Finally having a second to respond to this. The information that was added to The Inner Sanctum Mysteries (film series) article, in the film tables as well as the movies' genres that you referenced, all fall within Wikipedia:You don't need to cite that the sky is blue -- as they are directly linked to each of the respective pages for the installments. I highly recommend reviewing that article. Additionally, the sources you are asking for in the genres of these movies are WP:CK. Lastly, in relation to the details I left on your talk page -- as I recommended there, the best way to state that you want something sourced or a reference added to a detail is not to delete entire portions of articles but rather to follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Citing sources #Dealing with unsourced material. This may help you moving forward. DisneyMetalhead (talk) 20:09, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

I apologize, I did not see your reply here until now. That's an essay you are referencing, not policy. A few words,

• Genre definitely requires sources. per MOS:FILM, and WP:SUBJECTIVE, and honestly, just read the definitions of genres like horror film, adventure film, and action film. There is no strong consensus on what many genres are, so this does not fall under that the sky is blue. This isn't common knowledge, especially with a series as obscure as this, in fact, citations in the article call it different. The same goes for this.
• As for tagging, the article is rife with material you re-added that is not backed up by sources, citing material that is not backed up by its source, etc.
• Per WP:SOURCELIST, they must contain "No original research" (which your edits have removed). I think a cast list on the articles you suggest are okay, but I think just as we don't list every cast member in the infobox in a film. I've suggested a proposal for the cast in the talk article for The Inner Sanctum Mysteries (film series). I think it will help us reach a mutual solution to something satisfying for users. Andrzejbanas (talk) 10:01, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Collaborative

Just because I'm trying to clarify, I'm not sure how you would like me to be collaborative. I feel like any suggestion I make or any question I ask is me "falling into old habits". What are you suggesting I do? You've requested me to tag material, so I have and not sure how much discussion on a talk page is too much or too little, but your reasoning is feeling vague to me as you say it "assists the reader". As I am trying to work with you, I'm not sure what you want from me. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

@Andrzejbanas: I have responded to you in various places, where each time I have told you that I am choosing to assume WP:GOODFAITH all along. I have also cautioned you that your actions appear to be falling along similar habits you have exhibited on other articles. This was previously explained to you in detail by admins: here. I encourage you to once again read what User:Valereee has explained to you. As was pointed out by editors here and again by Valereee here, you can see the habits that I am talking about in my previous response. I have responded to each of your questions various times at this point, and will not keep repeating myself.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 17:25, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Fair, I'll try to hold back on questions, but when it's just you and I discussing, I'm not sure where a "consensus" kicks in. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:29, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

when it's just you and I discussing, I'm not sure where a "consensus" kicks in. That's it for me. One of the problems with sealioning is that it literally drives other editors away. Valereee (talk) 18:19, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Literally, what I was just thinking. And though I have stated I'm trying my darndest to assume WP:GOODFAITH all along, there is a very distinct pattern across various articles. DisneyMetalhead (talk) 18:26, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

I guess I'm it for this one, so ping me if you need. Valereee (talk) 18:45, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Etiquette suggests we discuss content. No perceived actions of users. Ranging from "Forgive and forget.", "not ignore reasonable questions", and "prepared to apologize". So to both of you, I apologize that my actions have made you question my responses. When I have people say I'm sealioning by asking a question or asking for a source, this is what leads me to say "I don't know where expected behaviour and non-expected behaviour begins or ends. Here's your requested @DisneyMetalhead:. One for @Valereee: too. I feel like even bringing up Wikipedia:Etiquette will also be sealioning now, so who should I even discuss this with who could be neutral? Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:48, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

You can take it to WP:XRV if you like. Valereee (talk) 18:51, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

I appreciate the heads up @Valereee:, if I'm allowed, can I ask you in confidence that this is not something to escalate my ban? I'm having a lot of trouble in trust in relation with this article at the moment. I also don't want it to cause you or any editors headaches. Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:18, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Taking something to a noticeboard is always going to raise the risk that your own behavior will be scrutinized, I'm afraid. I find that unfortunate myself, and if you do take it to XRV I'd willingly ask that not happen, but I can't control the opinion of others. If you have further questions, probably best to take it to your talk or mine so we aren't clogging up DMh's talk. Valereee (talk) 19:22, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Fair. Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Responses

Hi DMh (I hope its okay to call you that). I can't respond to your comments at the Universal Horror post at the moment. I have a response ready, but will get back to you later. All good? Andrzejbanas (talk) 20:49, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Just to follow up on your cast list, your source article for (Fandom), does indeed say the Dark Uninverse does indeed list that a Hunchback character was to be included in the Dark universe, but not that it actually happened noe that it was part of the original franchise. Furthermore, the Kim Newman source that you agreed with states the franchise begins in the 1930s, which you said you seemed to approve of. Why are you including characters from earlier? I think your cast and monsters list is coming along, but it needs to have sources that don't go beyond what you are claiming when it comes to picking and choosing certain cast/characters/films. Andrzejbanas (talk) 07:32, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

When you are talking to/about me on threads, you need to ping my username; otherwise you can/will abbreviate it as you wish.

In response to your second post, the article about the Dark Universe is literally about their intended reboot of the Universal Monsters. The fact that the movies didn't materialize is irrelevant. There are countless reliable sources that credit The Hunchback of Notre Dame as the first Universal Monster. Furthermore you are not the deciding end-all for what editors include and don't include in the article. I will not be pulled into an ongoing debate with you about an article, nor will I engage in becoming your conduit to an article that you were banned from editing.

DisneyMetalhead (talk) 02:20, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm not saying I decide, but you've said there are countless sources. But so far in your work you've provided none. The Newman source suggests they started I. the 1930s, so why are films going back to the 1910s? Could you provide some third-party reliable sources? I'm not saying they don't exist, I just don't want you to waste your time on a table if it has no sources to back up your claims.Andrzejbanas (talk) 07:54, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Ahh, I see you've added some more sources. While the MovieWeb and JoBlo ones are fine, they seem to go against some other sources here, such as the following:

• "As with most Hollywood films and franchises Universal's Classic Monsters began with an adaptation. From the outset, with Dracula (1931), Frankenstein (1931), Murders in the Rue Morgue (1932), and The Invisible Man (1933) ... Universal seemed set on banking on already familiar and popular authors and tests to do much of the publicity work for its horror titles." here
• ""The Universal Monsters franchise kicked off in the 1930s with Bela Lugosi as Dracula, Boris Karloff as the Frankenstein Monster (and the Mummy) and Claude Rains as the Invisible Man." This doesn't really help settle a what is, or what isn't in the franchise discussion, but maybe assists with the branding of the term as in Newman's idea, the franchise starts in the 1930s when these films were made, over the other two sources who relate it closer to the branding of the home video line. I've added the source here if anyone would like to try and apply it." Kim Newman, 2020 Tremors booklet.

Now i'm not saying one source is more correct than the others, but two sources (one being academic, which i feel applies better weight per WP:BESTSOURCES and WP:SOURCETYPES) should definitely not be ignored. I don't think your suggestions or research are wrong, but I'm not sure how we should apply this when the sources disagree. I'm proposing that we lean towards the 1930s beginnings, but can include in a hatnote that other sources have included the other monsters as well. as

WP:SOURCETYPES suggests. Andrzejbanas (talk) 08:39, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Andrzejbanas, you should probably drop this. Continuing to comment here isn't going to help you with getting unblocked. I'd recommend you take this article off your watchlist and go work on other ones. Valereee (talk) 15:49, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

@Valereee: Thank you very much for responding and posting here. I didn't want to ping/tag you in excess, but I had started to think I shouldn't even reply to this ongoing endless prodding from User:Andrzejbanas. DisneyMetalhead (talk) 00:08, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Rosemary's Baby (franchise)

The article Rosemary's Baby (franchise) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

There is nothing in any of the citations of a presumed "Rosemary's Baby" as a franchise. Per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Each source discusses the films separately with absolutely no commentary on any perceived franchise or series. This is just taking established information from articles on the books, tv series and films based around the novel with no real world commentary on it as a franchise, or even as a pop culture phenomenon in general. Sure we can find individual sources discussing the films individually as stated here, but I have not found any commentary suggesting it to be it's own series or franchise. So we shouldn't present it as one. Proposing to draftify until commentary about it as a series as a whole is available.

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You are literally going through article after article, splitting hairs. I will be removing your deletion tag for obvious reasons. DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:32, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

@Andrzejbanas: your continued actions here, there and everywhere indicate that you still have not learned from your previous missteps. I will remove your deletion tags and add more sources. I have repeatedly shown you the proper way to ask for more sources. DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:34, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

You don't have to show me anything because I haven't asked. The sources you have found have not really addressed the issues I've made with deletion either. Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:47, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

If possible, could we direct conversation about the franchise/series commentary to one section? Either the WP:FILM talk page or the article in question? (probably will get more eyes at WP:FILM), as it's exhausting to go between three to four pages to re-iterate points. Thanks! Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:52, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

User:Valereee I am wondering if this page was deleted prematurely? There was an ongoing discussion, and most of the editors taking to that discussion were expressing reasons why it should remain. Can you provide assistance, and/or insight? Thank you!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 01:30, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) If you think a deletion discussion ought to be re-examined, then please take it up at Wikipedia:Deletion review for a formal procedure. I will reference @OwenX's deletion rationale determining the consensus here for transparency: "Even without discarding the !votes that read as little more than a personal attack, the Delete arguments carry far more P&G weight than the ones calling for keeping the article." I do not believe that the length discussions proved any notability of in-depth coverage of the franchise as a whole beyond just discussing the works and how they are related to one another, which was a major factor that outweighed the keep !votes and those discussions. Once !votes are cast, discussions really come secondary in AfDs, hence why processes like deletion review exist. Plus, Wikipedia is WP:Not a democracy, so just because there were more keep !votes, that does not mean that is what the consensus is, which is determined by looking at the overall encyclopedic policies, not some editor's opinions of what they think should be done. I will just add, in conclusion, that not every supposed film series or "franchise" needs an article, especially if it cannot be independently notable. (Should a deletion review be started, it would be a courtesy to ping those involved in the AfD.) Cheers! Trailblazer101 (talk) 02:40, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the direction, @Trailblazer101. I have known about this process, but still found this deletion to be premature given the ongoing deletion discussion. There was no consensus reached. 3 movies make a film series, and likewise at least 3 installments make a franchise. There was included a LARGE number of sources on the now deleted article's talk page, detailing the franchise. I will go to the deletion review step. DisneyMetalhead (talk) 18:28, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

DM, no, it wasn't deleted prematurely. It had been open for weeks and relisted twice. The only policy-based argument made since the most recent relist was Delete, so it's not like the tides were turning.

A suggestion was made for creating a WP:SETINDEX page. See in particular the section about selection criteria, which says

The list topic need not be notable in itself. (emph mine)

Nevertheless, each of the items should be notable.

Various red-linked entries are acceptable if the entry is

1. verifiably a member of the listed group, and
2. likely to have an article on the topic in the future.

This seems like the perfect solution. Much of the article could be kept, because there really isn't anything there discussing it as a franchise (which per the AfD is the basic problem with it at this title; no one seems to be discussing it in RS as a franchise). Which means as a franchise it isn't notable. But as a SETINDEX it doesn't need to be. Valereee (talk) 14:14, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

The Inner Sanctum Mysteries (film series)

Hello, I'm Andrzejbanas. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. The book Universal Horrors does not state anything about it being part of a horror series. I'm going to assume you added this due to the books title. In the intro the book, they openly state they've included outliers that aren't horror in their coverage. So please, do not apply blanket material. Andrzejbanas (talk) 14:02, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

@Andrzejbanas: the movie series is titled The Inner Sanctum Mysteries. Looking at the title, it is common knowledge/self-evident within the series' title that the movies are "mystery", while they are categorically classic movies. The cast, and the crew -- all of which are from classic films have association with the respective individual movies. I'm not sure how that is debatable/questionable/controversial.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 14:57, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

I understand where you are coming from, but per MOS:FILMGENRE, "Genre classifications should comply with WP:WEIGHT and reflect what is specified by a majority of mainstream reliable sources.", so despite titles that present tropes of genres, we shouldn't apply this in this form. The article on the horror film has a good real world summary of this as well, saying that " Horror" was a term used to describe a variety of meanings. In 1913, Moving Picture World defined "horrors" as showcasing "striped convicts, murderous Indians, grinning 'black-handers', homicidal drunkards" Some titles that suggest horror such as The Hand of Horror (1914) was a melodrama about a thief who steals from his own sister." So it's a good real to practise via wiki rules and in general. Andrzejbanas (talk) 15:09, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

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Per WP:CIVIL, "Editors are expected to be reasonably cooperative, to refrain from making personal attacks" and "his applies equally to all: it is as unacceptable to attack an editor who has a history of foolish or boorish behaviour, or even one who has been subject to disciplinary action by the Arbitration Committee, as it is to attack any other." saying that "Other editors are correct in pointing out that this has the stench of other situations you have done before (many are familiar with that history)." is completely inappropriate for this kind of discussion per your edit here. While you are welcome to to contribute, I'd suggest reading my write up first, as I've already addressed your comments you have brought forward. Andrzejbanas (talk) 05:15, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Acknowledging fact in a totally relevant comment, was in reference to your continued like-manner actions. I have been WP:CIVIL with you, though it is incredibly difficult. Your recent actions have caused a complete deletion of the Rosemary's Baby (franchise) article -- something that follows similar previous actions that you had done at Universal Monsters. Not to mention your constant "policing" on my talk page is excessive. DisneyMetalhead (talk) 01:08, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

You've made a lot of edits that don't seem to follow policy (i.e: images proclaiming logos without any source, and creating tables without sources, just some examples. Which is fine, we all make mistakes.) I normally check the user edits of any edit I see when a user does this. If I'm breaking any rules with this, please inform me. As for you saying you have been CIVIL with me, you said said, and my edit had the "stench" of another post. That is in no way being civil to anyone. Andrzejbanas (talk) 10:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Three Men and a Baby (franchise) for deletion

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Are you intentionally going through each article and trying to delete them? DisneyMetalhead (talk) 00:31, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

No, I'm not. Andrzejbanas (talk) 00:36, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

As I have stated various times I am trying to expect the best out of you, but I am seeing a recurring trend in the last couple months. Don't you? DisneyMetalhead (talk) 00:39, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

I don't know what to say other than I don't know you and wouldn't be wasting my time with that. I've requested deletion of articles/cats/etc. made by various users in an effort to clean up the articles related to film projects. My suggestion would be to maybe read what and other editors have suggested would improve these articles and respond not based with policy and guidelines in mind. Maybe even sleep on it. Andrzejbanas (talk) 00:48, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

I don't need to 'sleep on' anything. I am pointing out to you, that as you just stated you are requesting deletion of articles. ...the main question, is why has that become a go-to, for you? I had previously shown you how to request additional sources in the past. DisneyMetalhead (talk) 00:53, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

I think I've addressed this in the Xfd, but as you asked I tried to improve the article myself to make it follow WP:SIGCOV and MOS:FILM. While I am Interested in Mushy Tank's set index proposal, I'm not exactly sure what that would entail so I can't really comment on whether it is a better alternative or not. Andrzejbanas (talk) 01:08, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Improvements to the article as-is, is better than a deletion altogether. I have noted this each time that I respond to you. Improve the page, instead of outright deleting it. DisneyMetalhead (talk) 01:54, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

As stated already in the Xfd prop, I did make an attempt to improve it. I tagged material, archived some dead URLs, tagged some sources as either not being reliable or entire sections what have no sources. This can be seen here. Following this, I searched the internet, the Wikipedia Library, Google Scholar, and other sources to find more material. I could not find anything. As the article seemed to fail several guidelines and policies, I went forward with an Xfd. I've given, what I feel, is a thorough overview in my deletion reasoning. While I have taken up Mushy Yank's suggestion and responded to them on their talk page, my understanding is a set index page would resemble something like List of films titled Hansel and Gretel this. I look forward to either of your responding to how we adjust the article as a set index, because I'm not entirely sure either of you are proposing with the idea. As for noticing editing patterns, per WP:AOBF "Avoid accusing other editors of bad faith without clear evidence in the form of diffs [...] Without clear evidence that the action of another editor is actually in bad faith or harassment, repeatedly alleging bad faith motives could be construed as a personal attack." Andrzejbanas (talk) 02:13, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

I am not doing any "personal attacks", and as pointed out on various discussions now the lengthy responses you generate are exhaustive and overkill for editors. I appreciate your efforts to improve the article, through these listed attempts. My statement was to encourage you to start discussions on a talk-page for improvements, instead of having a go-to of asking that an article be deleted (as I have pointed out in various places). As for how an index page can be made, that will need to be a discussion you open at the talk-page. DisneyMetalhead (talk) 02:33, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

I'll keep it short. I'm responding to your questions, not going on. I'll move on for now.Andrzejbanas (talk) 03:15, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

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Andrzejbanas (talk) 15:49, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

@Andrzejbanas:... what are you doing?--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 02:46, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

@DisneyMetalhead just as a heads up, pings don't work as they are case sensitive. Not sure what you mean by this, but I feel I have explained myself adequately at the talk page. Is there a problem? Andrzejbanas (talk) 08:46, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

I corrected the simple typo, but I also know they are case-sensitive. I have responded at the discussion -- my point being, it seems like you regularly nominate pages for deletions. DisneyMetalhead (talk) 15:46, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

If there is a policy about doing that too much, please bring it up, otherwise, I do not understand your issue. Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:16, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

The issue has been pointed out to you by numerous editors in the past. I don't need to go through it all again. Learn from your past. Simple as that. DisneyMetalhead (talk) 02:06, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Removal of tags

Out of curiosity, why did you remove the excessive citations tag as you had done here? Generally per WP:FILMPLOT Since films are primary sources for their articles, basic descriptions of their plots do not need references to an outside source. WP:BUNDLING makes it clear also why we don't usually add excessive sources for something that is not usually considered controversial. Its generally better to not remove a tag until the issue has been addressed on a talk page, and per your edit, you did not seem to address the tagged problem. Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

You don't need to review every edit I make. There are not excessive refs, and each ref provides the reader additional details. DisneyMetalhead (talk) 02:05, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

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What are you talking about? Did you watch the video User:Grandpallama? Clearly you didn't. I will take to the talk page, and also address the timestamp for you. Cheers. DisneyMetalhead (talk) 19:39, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

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