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The Signpost: 12 November 2012

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Hello Dwaipayanc, if you would like to leave comments which concern you or would cast a vote in support or opposition depending on your observation, I would much appreciate it. Thanks. — Bill william comptonTalk 15:39, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thnx Dwaipayan. I don't know that I should reply here on your talk page or on my talk page only. How to join these wiki-project? I have clicked on the watchlist of those project. Is it alright?Urbashi (talk) 06:09, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Thnx for the suggestion on Chapal Bhaduri. After fulfilling the criteria I will submit the article.Urbashi (talk) 05:36, 11 November 2012 (UTC)


Hello Dwaipayan. As you suggested to submit my article on Chapal Bhaduri for DYK, I did it But I did some wrong step(not done the third step). They informed me today about my mistake.Now this article now has an age more than 5 days. What should I do? And I am not quite sure how to do the third step for the nomination. Please help me out.Urbashi (talk) 08:14, 16 November 2012 (UTC)


Hey thanks for the DYK nomination of Saree cancer. Sorry for the late reply.Urbashi (talk) 13:15, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Re: Geoscience Request

Thanks a lot for the request. I checked the section. Other than some little bit editing it is alright. You can send me such pages for editing. It will be my pleasure to work on pages like this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Urbashi (talkcontribs) 17:38, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Ok. I will check the geography section of Kolkata. Yes, the first letter of any epoch/age should be written in capital letter.Urbashi (talk) 18:42, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

One line in the Geograpgy section of the Kolkata srticle may not be correct. I need to go through some literature survey. Then I will try to correct that one. Thanks. Urbashi (talk) 08:16, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

I added few lines in the Geograpgy section of the Kolkata. Plz check it out. I am not sure that these things should be included or not.Urbashi (talk) 13:18, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Balan, again

Hi Dwaipayanc. How have you been? So, this user is hell bent on ruining Balan's chances at FA. Did you see his edits? Oh lord! And then, he defends himself. It's frustrating. What do you think can be done? --S.M.A.R.O.J.I.T (talk) 05:25, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

I still wonder why no one wants to comment on the article? Hmm. --S.M.A.R.O.J.I.T (talk) 06:10, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, finally. I changed a few things according to the comments. Take a look. --S.M.A.R.O.J.I.T (talk) 18:53, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
I agree. Changed the reference. And now, we have a support. Yay! --S.M.A.R.O.J.I.T (talk) 04:42, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
So, two links from The Times of India were apparently dead, so I changed them. And archived four India Today links, as they were showing soft 404 errors. Now they seem fine. --S.M.A.R.O.J.I.T (talk) 06:58, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Final warning!

Stop disrupting edits or you'll be blocked from editing Wikipedia. I have reported against you at ANI which you can see here --Tito Dutta (talk) 19:00, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Ya, they are giving Tarzan shirts. But, most probably you have to give them your residential address. I gave identification to WMF few days ago (PAN card and voter id copy) for ACC tool! --Tito Dutta (talk) 19:24, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion converted to PROD: Goodminton

Hello Dwaipayanc. I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on Goodminton to a proposed deletion tag, because I do not believe CSD applies to the page in question - a hoax implies intent to deceive. It fails WP:NFT, but that's not a speedy reason. (It has often been proposed as one, including by me, but difficulties of definition have always stymied the proposal). Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:23, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 19 November 2012

15 August

Thank you for your continuing work on this article; yes, it's much closer to featured status now. In fact, I think the three post-History sections are quite comprehensive. My comments/concerns regarding them have been addressed well.

The history section needs tweaking though. Mainly, the Partition and independence sub-section should be split off into a separate '(Events of?) 15 August 1947' section. Since this is the day this article is about, we shouldn't be lumping it with the background story that lead up to it. Also, I have India After Gandhi on my lap right now, and I don't think we have exhaustively mined it of all relevant and interesting info (especially about that day). :) Eg: the Congress's preference for 26 January 1948, 15 August 1947 as "inauspicious" hence they began on the 14th, special session of the Const Assembly, who all gave speeches, Gandhi's reluctance to celebrate ... I feel the itinerary of events (pg 7) can be reproduced as well.

By the way, it'll be nice if we can quote newspaper reports of the day from the likes of the New York Times, Time magazine etc. We can raise a request for these at Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request. —indopug (talk) 17:13, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

sure. I'm quite busy till Monday, but I'll try to work a little everyday.—indopug (talk) 02:47, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Saree cancer

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Yeah I just saw it. Its a very good feeling. Thank you very much for the nomination and also thanks a ton for helping me in each and every step.Urbashi (talk) 08:25, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Yes! I did some technical error and then I gave up. Technically challenged :(:( Urbashi (talk) 08:32, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Hey I really really want to thank you for this nomination. Its really a good feeling when people are congratulating on my talk page/FB page. AND this happened only for you. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.Urbashi (talk) 16:42, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
Actually I attended " Wikipedia workshop for women" held in Mumbai in this month.I met some of the famous Mumbai Wikipedian there and they are in my FB freindlist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Urbashi (talkcontribs) 04:46, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
Ghosa maja means? Language or arrangement betterment? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Urbashi (talkcontribs) 06:59, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
Hey hope for the best for Chapal Bhaduri article. Rajmahal Traps article was already there. I expanded it. I need help.
  • In the Genesis section of this article, areal extent are given but I couldn't write the kilometre square (superscript of square)in proper way.
  • Name of the article is wrongly written. It is written Rahjamal Traps. I read the content before expanding it. It is the same trap.

Urbashi (talk) 18:55, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Chapal Bhaduri

Yes it is on the front page :) . THanks again Urbashi (talk) 08:19, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Opinion

I have made a requested move for Rajarhat to New Town, Kolkata or any other suitable title. Please feel free to participate in the discussion here. Your opinion will be highly appreciated. Thanks. Amartyabag TALK2ME 15:29, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Re: Rai

Haha, I have a feeling you mean that literally. :P I am still working on her career section, before I dig deep into her personal life and media image (which currently looks like a fan site). It would be great if we could collaborate on this together. Anyway, I still have my fingers crossed for Balan. --S.M.A.R.O.J.I.T (talk) 07:27, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Lol, okay. Will do that. Btw, do you currently live in Kolkata or elsewhere? --S.M.A.R.O.J.I.T (talk) 04:29, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Re: Tant saree

Ha Ha. Thanx a lot. It will be my pleasure if i can really contribute good articles. Hey! I need a help. Abbas Uddin ---this article has some copyright problem. I m watching this article nearly from one month. This has the same status. How to solve this problem? Basically I really want to write about him. Urbashi (talk) 17:55, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Re: Muktodhara

The article on the film was already created. Little bit bust these days. And I don't think I can write 1500+ characters on the two actors. --Tito Dutta (talk) 21:22, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Tripura

Thank you for your generous comment here. I was going through the history section today and noticed a few things:

  • ...Puranas (ancient Indian religious texts) and stone pillar inscriptions of Emperor Ashoka (third century BCE) mention Tripura ... is the Tripura these texts mention cognate with the region known as Tripura today or is it something entirely different like Tripura (mythology)? This needs to be clarified.
  • An ancient name of Tripura is Kirat Desh (the land of Kirat)... I have added a verify source tag at the end of the sentence. Page 155 of the reference, in the limited view I can see, refers to Lushai-Kuki clans inhabiting the hills east and north-east of Tripura (Lower Assam?) as Kirat. Therefore, Kirat Desh couldn't possibly refer to Tripura.
  • History of Tripuri kings mentioned in the Rajmala has been glossed over in the section. I wonder whether this is a conscious decision because of the mythological nature of the text. If not, you can use references like this and this to elaborate on their internal and external strife.

I'll try to find more time for the article this week. Regards. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 22:29, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

The history section feels a bit incomplete without the medieval history of Tripura. It appears as if Tripura had no events of historical significance before 19th century. However, I understand that there is a dearth of references on this. The D. C. Sircar reference attempts to make historical sense of Rajamala, but most of the content in the book is just genealogy, hardly worth mentioning in the article. Unless we can find a better reference, the history section, as it is, will have to do. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 07:04, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 26 November 2012

Wikipedia Goes to the Movies in NYC this Saturday Dec 1

 
Wikipedia Goes to the Movies in NYC

You are invited to Wikipedia Goes to the Movies in NYC, an editathon, Wikipedia meet-up and workshops focused on film and the performing arts that will be held on Saturday, December 1, 2012, at the New York Public Library for the Performing Arts (at Lincoln Center), as part of the Wikipedia Loves Libraries events being held across the USA.

All are welcome, sign up on the wiki and at meetup.com!--Pharos (talk) 07:06, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Re: Abbas Uddin

Thanks for help. I will do it. I was writing on bhawaiya. I am little bit slow writer. So i can't handle two/three articles together. Now i ll try to write on Abba uddin on the temporary page Talk:Abbas Uddin/Temp. Urbashi (talk) 08:44, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Railway station names

I have proposed that all railway station names in India be suffixed only with ‘railway station’ and all pages named otherwise be suitably altered. Kindly give your views on this subject in Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics. Cheers. - Chandan Guha (talk) 14:07, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

quiz master award

May I have a pleasure of getting "india quiz master" from you on my talk page because of winning the round 47. --Suresh Purohit (Su_hit) (talk) 05:22, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Special Barnstar
A big thank you to the nicest and kindest mentor ever. :-) smarojit (buzz me) 17:37, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
I can't ditch Balan, she is my only love. :P Haha. But on a serious note, I guess I'll continue work on Rai's article. And I have had my eye of Shahrukh's article for a while now, but that is going to be difficult, very difficult. --smarojit (buzz me) 05:58, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
The last time I tried removing puffery from Shahrukh's article, a couple of editors jumped on me and accused me of being a Salman Khan fan. Which is not even funny. Sigh! Anyway, I see that you have added Balan's wedding date in the article. I know that it has been confirmed, but shouldn't we wait for the wedding to actually happen before we add the date? We can let it remain though, if you want. --smarojit (buzz me) 06:12, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Lol, nothing happened. I didn't edit the page anymore. Recently, Secret of Success got into an edit fight over the section header "Brand SRK" which resulted in the page being blocked. Tricky waters, that.
Oh, and about Kahaani. The award season is just round the corner, and Kahaani will definitely emerge as one of the big winners, so it would probably be wise to wait till then. Also, it's interesting to see that the page is being continuously edited by new editors every day. --smarojit (buzz me) 16:38, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

59th NFA

Hello. After lot of trouble and few hassles, I finally had to give up on the citations on the article. DFF is taking lot of time to reply and some of them are not favourable because of the non-clear statements. I had discussed this with copyright expert, Moonriddengirl, over the period of time and finally decided to take the citations out till I hear from DFF again. Since last failed FLC, article has gone thru the copy-editing from GoCE member. Shall we push the article for one more PR or FLC again? - Vivvt • (Talk) 21:43, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Here you go! - Vivvt • (Talk) 01:47, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Dimple Kapadia

Passed GA. But can you fix Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force/Notable articles for me, the line alignment is messed up.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 10:23, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

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History of Basti district

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I responded to your note at my talk page but just wanted to add here my appreciation to you for undertaking cleanup on this article. Without that, we might not have known about the copyright issue that exists. Thank you. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:11, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

  Thanks for GA pass for Naraka Redtigerxyz Talk 19:05, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

 
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You may help here Talk:Jab Tak Hai Jaan#Discussion continued---zeeyanketu talk to me 19:40, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Hyderabad, India for FAC

Hi, before nomination of FAC we are waiting for your advice. Please let us know shall we proceed for FAC now. Regards :)--Omer123hussain (talk) 19:46, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Opsss, feel sorry about my errors, please correct those. Regards :)--Omer123hussain (talk) 22:26, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Might be interesting!

This one --Tito Dutta (talk) 01:00, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Might be more interesting --Tito Dutta (talk) 03:57, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 10 December 2012

Vidya Balan TFA

Hi....Vidya Balan's article will be featured on the main page on 14 December, her wedding day. :D smarojit (buzz me) 11:12, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Haha, sure did. --smarojit (buzz me) 04:14, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
Yep, they are married now. --smarojit (buzz me) 06:05, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Tripura Barnstar
For creating such wonderful content from scanty resources. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 10:43, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Some content!

If you can add some content in Nrisingha Prasad Bhaduri we may have a good DYK candidate! --Tito Dutta (talk) 15:07, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

I have nominated it Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Nrisingha_Prasad_Bhaduri --Tito Dutta (talk) 00:20, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
I have seen that! --Tito Dutta (talk) 05:33, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Sanchayita

I have wondered a many times why we don't have an article on Sanchayita, Tagore' poem collection! If we can create one, it'll be an excellent DYK topic. Though just yesterday, I have nominated a Tagore's DYK. So, I'll wait for a while now before nominating Tagore again! --Tito Dutta (talk) 00:28, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Fools!

We have wasted a very good DYK nomination. Fools! --Tito Dutta (talk) 07:41, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

PLEASE read this!

THIS --Tito Dutta (talk) 08:22, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

I have fixed the close paraphrasing I have found. It is a very difficult job to do such work when you have Harvnb style references added which does not take you to exact page. Cite book is much better! Anyway, now? --Tito Dutta (talk) 21:44, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Yes, please make those changes in the article from sandbox. I am having a very difficult time with those Harvnb references, and damn busy with Swami Vivekananda at the Parliament of the World's Religions (1893). I have also created this article which might be a DYK article too Khandana Bhava–Bandhana. What do you think? I am not going to take risk, I had been "unlucky" (apaya) for the GA review, that's why it failed. You or someone else can nominate the main article for FA! The issues which will be raised there, I'll try my best to fix those.--Tito Dutta (talk) 01:55, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

FARs

Independence Day (India) looks ready for an FAR. You can put it up whenever you want. I now have both India after Gandhi and The Proudest Day in my possession. I don't think you and Indopug will be short of resources, but just in case you need my help with some tidbits about Independence Day, I will have very little access to the internet between 20th to 26th December. Tripura still has two little issues. The GSDP table in the economy section is indented towards the left, at least on my screen. The image above the table could use a reduction in size or you can place the table few lines after the section. Two cn tags, one each in education and healthcare section, need two be replaced with refs. Other than this, the article looks fine to me. Could you also have another look at Swami Vivekananda? If we don't put it up for FAR now, we won't have even an outside chance of making it to Jan 12th. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 12:34, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Pritilata Waddedar DYK

After missing the Surya Sen DYK opportunity, we have got another one Pritilata Waddedar. Can you please go ahead and nominate? I have already posted 5-6 nominations in last 48 hours, I don't want to post this one know. Don't mention her suicide in DYK if possible, you can put Pahartali European Club attack, which had a sign board that read "Dogs and Indians not allowed" if possible --Tito Dutta (talk) 13:03, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Alright, you can put the suicide in the hook too, but, don't say she was trapped by British police, that's the portion where I am unsure --Tito Dutta (talk) 13:06, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Has anyone thought of a hook yet? Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 14:02, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
No! I just asked not to mention that she was trapped by British police and then committed suicide that portion is not clear. Read the article, you'll get hook. You can put the "Dogs and Indians not allowed" portion in hook (see first comment in this section)! --Tito Dutta (talk) 14:08, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
...that Pritilata Waddedar led an attack on a European Club which had the sign "Dogs and Indians not allowed"? Is this okay? Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 14:25, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Will probably be busy for a few days. Sorry for not being of any assistance.--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:07, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Don't worry about the DYK, that message was for Tito. Just take a look at Swami Vivekananda. Is it ready for FAR? Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 16:10, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
From technical aspects, Vivekananda is nearly there, although some referencing format error persist. I don't have the time right now to fix those, I will have a look tonight. However, I don't know where it stands regarding prose (both for prose quality and chance of close paraphrasing). The prose quality was not too bad during the GA nomination 5 months before, but had some puffery. Did some clean up last night, and it seems others are working on that, too. I think we should give it about 36-48 more hours before nominating. --Dwaipayan (talk) 16:18, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Let's wait a while then. I have copied your comment to User talk:Titodutta#Swami Vivekananda FAR. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 16:23, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
ALts done, most probably the infobox image does not have alt parameter! --Tito Dutta (talk) 00:04, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
I think even the infobox image has the provision of alt text, although I don't know the exact technical aspect. I fintly remember somebody asking for alt text in infobox image in a FAC. Not sure. Can't tell whom to ask. --Dwaipayan (talk) 05:28, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Re: divorce and separation

Lol. This is news to me. I haven't come across a single news report even hinting at this. Anyway, who separates within five days of marriage? :P --smarojit (buzz me) 05:31, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Omg, I'd rather not comment on that. :P --smarojit (buzz me) 05:38, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Umm...Bangla bujhte paari, translation lagbe na. Haha. But how does it correlate to what we were talking about? :O --smarojit (buzz me) 05:47, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Ahh..I see. And no, I think that if someone is intelligent, they wouldn't get married in the first place. Theek na? --smarojit (buzz me) 05:58, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

New message of FA review

see here: User_talk:Shrikanthv#Notice.21_.28For_undiscussed_approaches.29 --Tito Dutta (talk) 15:14, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 17 December 2012

Talk:Vimala Temple/GA1

I understand the concerns about prose, but can not understand how to be comprehensive (keep jargon) but still explain it. --Redtigerxyz Talk 06:29, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

The dispute about religious significance is now resolved. --Redtigerxyz Talk 18:47, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Re; V

I started that work, Some portion were close paraphrasing of Swami Vivekananda: Messiah of Resurgent India which I have fixed. That Gujarat Gov site should not be an issue, IMO. --Tito Dutta (talk) 02:52, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Biley

Can you please revise the synopsis section from this review translate those terms like avatarbader manabayan, chokher kone jome noon etc? Do you think it can be prepared anyhow for DYK? --Tito Dutta (talk) 10:31, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Ya, ya, it was created, I forgot to link Biley, please manually copy paste if I forget to link! --Tito Dutta (talk) 02:25, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Yo!

See this and this. --smarojit (buzz me) 08:55, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Hahahahahahaha, I literally ROFL-ed when I saw it. :P --smarojit (buzz me) 15:45, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

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Merry Christmas to you, Dwai! --Plea$ant 1623 08:12, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 24 December 2012

Hyderabad FA review

Hi, needs your advice and opinion for the remarks of sandy regarding the FA review of Hyderabad, simultaneously I requested STFG also about his opinion here, the reviewer insted of asking for corrections he is demanding for more independent copy edit, for which i am completely shocked. Regards :)--Omer123hussain (talk) 12:51, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello

Hi, Dwaipayanc.I've nominated Allahabad for GA.Reviewing process is going on.The problem is i am not getting not even a single issue raised by reviewer.Can you please depict those in simple words like you did in Uttar Pradesh.Kindly do take a look.The review page can be found here.Pls help,Thank You. --25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  14:20, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Wishing you a very happy new year! Yours truly ----Plea$ant 1623 18:42, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Wishing you a very “Happy NEW YEAR“ filled with peace, prosperity and happiness.---zeeyanketu talk to me 19:18, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Two by Satyajit Ray

Hi. Have you seen a short film by Satyajit Ray named "Two"? The one available on youtube is of 10 mins but Ray's official site says 15 mins. Is there any reference available on it?. - Vivvt • (Talk) 06:59, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

I found one youtube video which is of 12 mins. Based on that I expanded the article and pushed it for DYK. Lets see. - Vivvt • (Talk) 04:33, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Celebration and Mini-Conference in NYC Saturday Feb 23

 
Doing the "Open Space" thing at one of our earlier NYC Wiki-Conferences.

You are invited to celebrate Wikipedia Day and the 12th anniversary (!) of the founding of the site at Wikipedia Day NYC on Saturday February 23, 2013 at New York University; sign up for Wikipedia Day NYC here, or at bit.ly/wikidaynyu. Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues!

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience!--Pharos (talk) 01:58, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

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Happy New Year!

  Best wishes for the New Year!
Here's wishing you and yours a joyous, healthful, and productive 2013!

Please accept a belated thank you for the well wishes upon my retirement as FAC delegate this year, and apologies for the false alarm of my first—and hopefully last—retirement; the well wishes extended me were most kind, but I decided to return, re-committed, when another blocked sock was revealed as one of the factors aggravating the FA pages this year.

Maintaining standards in featured content requires vigilance, dedication and knowledge of people like you, who are needed; reviews are always welcome at FAC, FAR and TFA requests. Somehow, somehow we never ever seem to do nothin' completely nice and easy, but here's hoping that 2013 will see a peaceful road ahead and a return to the quality and comaraderie that defines the FA process, thanks to many dedicated Wikipedians!

SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:40, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, any chance by which you could have a look at this nom? Vensatry (Ping me) 18:03, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Goodness, that editor is hypersensitive to critique, and also very literal-- that attitude doesn't work at FAC. Would you prefer that I strike my oppose and step aside, or shall we try to keep going? Whatever is best ... we've always been able to bring articles over the hump together, but that person seems to have a bug about me, so if you want me uninvolve myself, I'll gladly do so. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:04, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I intend to get back to helping to review FAC's at some point but do not yet feel ready so this is a bit of a practice for me. I hope you don't mind but feel free to ignore me completely if you do.
I saw this article mentioned on SandyGeorgia's page and took a brief look. The first two words in the Toponymy section, Numerous myths, caught my attention as being numerically vague. Firstly, you have enumerated only three of the numerous myths, leading the reader to wonder what other myths exist. Secondly, is Andrew Petersen's theory really a myth by definition? See 1. Myth n, in the OED which states in part: "...A traditional story, typically involving supernatural beings or forces, ..." "Myth". Oxford English Dictionary (Online ed.). Oxford University Press. (Subscription or participating institution membership required.)(subscription required) --Senra (talk) 18:28, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
I agree. Indeed the word numerous was added just today during copyedit by another editor. Do you have any suggestion? "Many legends...", "several theories..." or a completely new sentence structure?--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:35, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Now you got me. Prose is not my strong point. Consider being precise as in "Two myths are known: firstly ... and secondly ..." not necessarily in one sentence of course. I hope that helps --Senra (talk) 18:41, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
I don't think I'm ready to support an article for FA on a major city without book sources or without any actual information about any of its landmarks. The prose doesn't look too bad at all, but the time I think it'll take to research books and try to improve that aspect of it which I see as the flaw, I don't think it can be brought up to a level where everybody is happy in the meantime. I'll pass, sorry. Best of luck on it. I'm happy to work on it, but away from the spotlight.. I honestly don't think my copyedits would be enough to pass it. I'll add a further reading section for you though..
In fairness the book coverage of the city for some reason seems to be extremely poor, none of the books are accessible through google books... ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 20:36, 6 January 2013 (UTC)♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 19:02, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
I feel unable at the moment to review any article to the standard necessary to pass a FAC due to my poor (but not zero) experience with the process. However, if it helps at all, I would be willing to review this entire article and make formal comments on the FAC page. I will not formally support or oppose. If you accept, I will base my review: on the latest version of the article at the time of my review; on Wikipedia:Manual of Style/India-related articles (or if not covered there on Wikipedia:Manual of Style) and on similar FA articles such as Belgrade, Canberra, Detroit, Manchester, San Francisco, Seattle and Washington, D.C. I was unable to find an India article equivalent of How to write about settlements. Do you know of such a guide?
If you accept, let me know on my talk page --Senra (talk) 21:07, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for the invite. I have pulled out of the review due to the combative nature of the responses (both yours and previously Stfg's to other reviewers). Good luck with the article. I hope it gets featured. It is (overall) a nice article and will be a great addition to the Wikipedia Featured Article set --Senra (talk) 17:27, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
You asked me to look at your recent changes to the Toponymy section of the article ...
  • I urge you to use diacritics if they are sourced. Not in the article generally but in the Toponymy section
  • I may be reading my Everett-Heath (2010) differently from your Everett-Heath (2005). My interpretation is that the city was originally called Bhāgnagar when it was a princely state. It was re-named Hyderābād, in honour of a 7th-century calif, in 1591. This is not how I read the present toponymy section. I would need to find another source to confirm this. Can I leave this to you?
  • For the record, and as you can probably tell, I trust world-renown toponymists such as Everett-Heath, rather more than (e.g.) political sociologists such as McCann; particularly on the subject of place-names (see for example The place-name Ely)
--Senra (talk) 20:25, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
This source might help on toponymy but I can't see the whole book from the UK: Prasad, Dharmendra (1 January 1986). Social and Cultural Geography of Hyderabad City: A Historical Perspective. Inter-India Publications. ISBN 978-81-210-0045-1.. The book is reviewed here. Another source may be useful (this one is not WP:RS though but could usefully lead to RS sources) --Senra (talk) 20:35, 7 January 2013 (UTC)