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COI

Do you edit for pay on behalf of Farkhad Akhmedov and other subjects? I'm struggling to understand why a non-WP:COI account would make these edits:

1. [1], which removes content sourced to high-quality RS such as the WSJ and replaces it with unsourced content or puffery sourced to the subject himself.
2. [2], which adds original research about how the subject's inclusion on the US sanctions list means nothing
3. [3], which removes an enormous amount of reliably sourced content and adds brazen NPOV-violating text (such as how his ex-wife was "using legal loopholes and discrepancies" to sue him for divorce) and how he lost on technicalities. The add also adds lots of poorly sourced puffery about the subject. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 14:53, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Emphatically and categorically not. I was honing my editing skills on that particular chosen subject - on a page that clearly needed editing. EastThermopolis (talk) 15:24, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

But why did you remove content sourced to high-quality RS and replace it with unsourced content (including highly personal details) and self-sourced content by the subject of the article? That's what I don't understand. Some of the sourcing is also in the Azerbaijani language. Do you know that language? Snooganssnoogans (talk) 15:43, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

The article had carried a long-standing warning about unreliability. I made edits to correct that - as I do with many other articles on here. What languages I speak or otherwise are irrelevant. EastThermopolis (talk) 15:48, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Your edits made the article less reliable. In ways that I do not understand how a non-COI editor could accidentally do. I've started a discussion on the COI noticeboard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Farkhad_Akhmedov. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 15:55, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

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I didn't get some of your editing, ENIC is still active but running dormant accounts for the last two years. Some of the cites you removed were still useful. Govvy (talk) 15:14, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

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A tag has been placed on ACF Investment Bank, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Hi, I'm truly puzzled by your speedy deletion nomination (and by now subsequent deletion) of the recently created Page about ACF Investment Bank.

I created the Page following extensive research - providing Wiki-linking, in addition to offering comprehensive citations on the not insignificant role ACF Investment Bank has played in the global TV and  industry over many years.

In encyclopedic terms - given all the TV shows listed on the now deleted Page that ACF Investment Bank, I believed it would have provided linked information about the obvious and important role a company like ACF investment Bank plays within the TV industry.

I also reject your claim about this Page being "unambiguous advertising". Can you please provide clear and objective evidence to support this assertion (not your subjective  or 'hunch' viewpoint)? Could you also explain why I, would seek to facilitate and promote "unambiguous advertising"?  If this Page was as you describe, "unambiguous advertising", I would ask you to point to any in example of 'puffery' or similar within the text I wrote.

I would be grateful if you could help retrieve the deleted material on the Page. EastThermopolis (talk) 13:07, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Could you also explain why I, would seek to facilitate and promote "unambiguous advertising"? Your edits bear a lot of the hallmarks of paid editing. That would be one reason why you would promote "unambiguous advertising." Thenightaway (talk)

If this Page was as you describe, "unambiguous advertising", I would ask you to point to any in example of 'puffery' or similar within the text I wrote. See the COI section of your own talk page[4]. Onel5969 should perhaps start another COI discussion. Thenightaway (talk) 13:15, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

"All the hallmarks"? So you offer no evidence whatsoever. You are throwing around accusations without any substantiation about your claims. How is this fair? I ask again, where is you evidence about "unambiguous advertising", because you're offering none. I researched the Page content thoroughly, linked, cited with encyclopedic content linking to other Pages within the industry. What is the problem? EastThermopolis (talk) 13:25, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you Reading Beans. Additional sources have now been included, as you requested and the draft has been re-submitted for review. EastThermopolis (talk) 13:48, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

@EastThermopolis, I added {{citation needed}} in areas needing citation. Take care of those and ping me here, I'll accept the draft. Happy editing! Best, Reading Beans (talk) 14:54, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

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CNMall41 (talk) 01:34, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello CNMall41. If you're going to interject on this matter, please can you do me the simple courtesy of:

a) reading the discussion I'd already been having above with Reading Beans, following the article being moved to draftspace; and

b) explaining what's going on now please? Are you pulling-rank over Reading Beans's actions / discussions - is that's what's happening here? Please be clear - as I'm in the process of constructively addressing all the helpful issues raised by Reading Beans above and now you've intervened making other demands.

Can you please explain the process of what's taking place now and tell me who will have the final say on this matter i.e. yourself or Reading Beans?

Thank you. EastThermopolis (talk) 10:22, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

@EastThermopolis, no one has the final say, neither @CNMall41 or myself. We are all working collaboratively to build a worthy encyclopaedia. Best, Reading Beans (talk) 10:27, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

But surely you understand my predicament here? And you still haven't had the courtesy to explain the process from hereonin. If I meet the helpful suggestions proposed by Reading Beans re: 'citations needed', that then presumably in your view, is not enough? Please explain what's going on here and what I have to do next. Do I meet the requirements set out by Reading Beans or do I meet your requirements? I just need clarity. Thank you. 2A00:23C6:C384:3301:E11C:3C1:6CC6:3341 (talk) 10:34, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

I’ve looked at the draft and you still haven't addressed the issues I raised earlier. I believe that's why they declined it. Best, Reading Beans (talk) 10:31, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks @Reading Beans - as I say above: "I'm in the process of constructively addressing all the helpful issues raised by @Reading Beans" - and that's where I currently doing. I don't understand what the latest intervention by CNMall41 is about. The article was parked-up while I resolved your suggestions. It's not clear what's happening now? 2A00:23C6:C384:3301:E11C:3C1:6CC6:3341 (talk) 10:39, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

CNMall41 is not saying a different thing. Address the issues I raised and your draft will be accepted. Happy editing. Best, Reading Beans (talk) 10:46, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

OK thanks @CNMall41 and@Reading Beans for your help. I'll address the issues you raised in the next few days. Regards, EastThermopolis EastThermopolis (talk) 10:51, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

I will WP:AGF and try not reading into the tone of your comments (but will still make this comment so you are aware that your tone could be taken as uncivil). Please note that WP:CIR but I will explain a little further based on your questions so you are pointed in the right direction. The interaction I had was from the draft being submitted for review through AfC. I reviewed it and determined that it does not meet notability guidelines for companies. The notice of the decline also contains helpful links for you to review so I would advise doing that prior to further discussion as they can actually answer most of the questions you may have. I will also steer you directly to WP:ORGCRIT which is what editors look at when determining if references meet standards to show notability of a company. It is not just about having enough references, but the references must meet WP:ORGCRIT in order to show notability. As far as "final say," Reading Beans is correct. Wikipedia is governed by WP:CONSENSUS, not hierarchy. Hope this helps. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:39, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you CNMall41. I assure you no incivility was intended on my part. However, if you and/or Reading Beans were in any way offended, I can only sincerely apologise for that. I was merely asking for some clarity on the process - which you've now kindly proffered. I will look to meet criteria you set out in relation to this particular article. EastThermopolis (talk) 11:26, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Dear CNMall41and Reading Beans,

Please see the edits that were previously requested for this article, which currently resides in draft here: Draft:Digitalbox.

In terms of notability, one of the main reasons I created the article in the first place, was due to the fact this particular publishing house, owns three publication titles that already have Wikipedia articles written (by others) about them. They are: The Daily Mash, The Tab and The Poke.

A review of the new edits would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks for your time. EastThermopolis (talk) 14:47, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

I see it was submitted and will be reviewed in due time. If you want me to review I will gladly do so although a quick look at it showed me this still does not meet guidelines. Also, if you are basing notability on the publisher, note that there is no inherent notability and WP:OTHERSTUFF. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:53, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment CNMall41. I would indeed like you to review it and if you feel it does not meet the guidelines, maybe you could assist in helping me meet your interpretation of these guidelines, so I can successfully re-submit? Some feedback (other than just sending me links), would be very helpful and greatly appreciated. EastThermopolis (talk) 16:25, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

I reviewed and opined. The relevant guidelines are stated above in my longer reply. I also reiterated these on the draft so you have quick access to those guidelines. Good luck. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:38, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

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Given you've proved to be quite unhelpful throughout this entire process, arbitrarily overturning the views and helpfulness of another reviewer colleague (namely, the user: @Reading Beans) at the very onset, and adopted a totally unnecessary combative tone in your posts, I would respectfully ask you now step back from this matter and hand over the review process to another reviewer (or reviewers) to make the decision - as you indicated above. Earlier in this conversation, you lectured me on the importance of the principle of consensus. I therefore now seek a consensus view, made by others, in respect of this article. Please arrange for this process to commence immediately. Thanks for your time. EastThermopolis (talk) 12:53, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks. This was an oversight. Apols. EastThermopolis (talk) 16:04, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

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