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Sockpuppet investigation involving User:TruthTurtle88

I have opened a sockpuppet investigation involving User:TruthTurtle88 as they have similar editing styles and disruptive editing on the Death of Regis Korchinski-Paquet page as other suspicious accounts in the past.

Since you've been in contact with them recently, feel free to leave your two cents here: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/TruthPhone.

CaffeinAddict (talk) 17:14, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

What was that about?

I have no idea what that post to my talk page that you undid was about, butit was repeated by yet another IP. Who is the banned user? If you meant 108.211.110.206 (talk · contribs) then the user is blocked, not banned. Meters (talk) 06:15, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

• Meters, those were socks of User:Mrbeastmodeallday. He has remained disruptive on the United States talk page. He said that he is IP hopping to spam edit requests, and when other editors removed them, he has continued to message those editors disruptively. That is why I was pinged in that IP message on your talk page. Just check the history of Talk:United States. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 14:30, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
  • Ah, thanks. I do recognize that name. Meters (talk) 06:28, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello, CollectiveSolidarity,

You seem to be getting attention from an assortment of IP editors so I've temporarily semi-protected your talk page. Let me know if you'd like the protection lifted early. Thank you and sorry for this nonsense. Liz ^{Read! Talk!}

False positive copypaste warning

Looks like the link you found https://electowiki.org/wiki/One_person,_one_vote copied from the source I attributed One man, one vote. I have already added a Copy attribution in Talk:One person, one vote, Section Copied from One man, one vote. Please remove the copypaste warning on One person, one vote HudecEmil (talk) 04:22, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, it appears that it was simply a Wikipedia content fork. Removed, thanks. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 04:42, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

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@ProtoDrake Thank you! CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 08:23, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Secondary Source criteria for U.S. House Elections

Hi! I wanted to thank you for reviewing all the new pages I've been making for United States House of Representatives elections in Texas. I noticed that on the first two pages you reviewed, you marked them as in need of secondary sources, and since you did that, I have been sure to find as many as possible for those and all subsequent pages. As I move further back in time, however, I think it is going to get harder and harder to find secondary sources about these elections, so I wanted to ask, what do you consider to be the minimum level of secondary source usage pages like these need? I will probably be able to use the Texas Almanac's political history sections as secondary sources for the general overview of the elections going back at least a few more decades. Would you consider that enough to establish notability? I will still be trying to find as many secondary sources as possible for these pages, but I just wanted to know what your criteria are for adding that tag. Thanks, OutlawRun (talk) 15:43, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

@OutlawRun Ah! I should have clarified that! An article usually needs only one or two secondary sources, and the Texas Almanac will do the job just fine. If you haven't already, maybe you could also use Google Books to help with the searching? CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 16:53, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for clarifying. I go to a university in Texas, so in addition to Google Books, I think I'll try and look through the libraries on campus to see if I can find anything there. For example, I can use The Years of Lyndon Johnson for anything to do with LBJ, and I'm sure I can find some books about John Nance Garner and Sam Rayburn to use for their House races. Thanks again, OutlawRun (talk) 17:47, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

@OutlawRun Just asking, but are you an Aggie:)? CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 17:48, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

@CollectiveSolidarity No. I'm a Mustang. OutlawRun (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

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drafts

what compelled you to move this to draft space? There are a few bad sources but nothing that requires draftification. PRAXIDICAE🌈 01:30, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

@Praxidicae The author said it might not be ready for mainspace, but now reading his comment here. I realize I may have been too hasty. I apologize for doing this, and I will accept any applicable consequences. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 01:34, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

worries, I was honestly just trying to figure it out. I don't know if he meets NSOLDIER or whatever they use now but it seemed...notable enough. o PRAXIDICAE🌈 01:34, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

I will tell the author about this, so I can own up to my mistake. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 01:36, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

@Praxidicae sorry to bother you, but for future reference, is Olu Benson Lulu-Briggs a potential article that could be draftified? It hasn't been edited since June 24, no copvio per Earwig's tool, and the topic does appear to have some merit. Any other issues with this analysis? CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 05:35, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

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Doug Weller talk 07:56, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

@Doug Weller Is there a reason for this? I do not remember contributing to India, Pakistan or Afghanistan. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 13:12, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

I can't recall exactly which article, but it's articles broadly relating to them, could be about people, events, etc. It's a routine notice, don't worry about it. I gave myself one. Doug Weller talk 13:21, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Deprodding of Miss Universe Myanmar 2018

I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from Miss Universe Myanmar 2018, which you proposed for deletion. I found the award is notable after doing a simple Google book search.I have cleanup the Facebook refs and adding proper refs. Notable award in Myanmar.. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}} back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! _{- Signed by} NeverTry4Me ^Talk 08:39, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

The fight to revert vandalism first begins ;p

(btw you're doing great <3) Hyperwave11 (talk) 00:26, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! Ever considered getting Rollback? It might help you with catching vandalism. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 00:29, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

awesome! Thanks, twinkle has been my goto so far. Hyperwave11 (talk) 00:36, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of William Taylour

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Should be R2 but Im nominating under G6 (move) per WT:NPR discussion to rever DRAFTIFYcation

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RM close

Hi! Asking you about the close of Talk:Crucifer#Requested move 21 June 2022. Erm... you are aware that discussions aren't votes, and unsubstantiated assertions aren't meant to carry much weight when evaluating a discussion's outcome? – Uanfala (talk) 21:48, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

@Uanfala understand they are not votes. But they probably should have clarified that moving to Crucifer (plant) is not the common name because there are 80,800 hits on google scholar (generally reliable sources) for Crucifarae, 194,000 hits for Brassicaceae, and only 37,800 results for Crucifer (which generally talked about only the plants). So changing Crucifer to Crucifer (Christianity) and Crucifer (plant) would probably be the less common since the most searched title for the plant is Brassicaceae, and Crucifer is searched up more than Cross-Bearer. But if you consider my close a supervote, feel free to revert me.

P.S. there are 8 million hits for Brassicaceae, more than Crucifer with its 1.4 million. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 22:18, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

I can't revert you because I'm involved, you're the only editor who can withdraw the close. The point you're making is correct, but orthogonal to the question at hand. We're not trying to decide between "Brassicaceae" and "Cruciferae" as the name for the family. What we're trying to decide is if there is a primary topic for "crucifer". We need to be looking at the uses of that word and what proportion of them are for each meaning. It's beside the point what other, unrelated, terms can be used for those meanings. Do you get my point? That's an easy mistake to make, I just caught an RM regular mixing up those two earlier today. – Uanfala (talk) 22:29, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Ah! I misunderstood that you wanted to multi-move Brassicaceae to Crucifer. But certainly, there are more results for the Cross-bearer than the plant on Google’s General search. But anyway, Crucifer (plant) already redirects to the primary topic Brassicaceae, so a hatnote on the primary general topic (The Cross-Bearer) should be sufficient. Since there are more people using the general search than the scientific search, it probably suggests that the cross bearer is the primary topic. Forgive me for my misunderstanding, I think I was a bit hasty in closing that move. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 22:30, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

@Uanfala forgot to Ping CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 22:31, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

A hatnote enters the picture only if you grant there is a primary topic. I was arguing there is no primary topic. What google search results are you seeing? I did provide a few in the RM nomination, here's two of them again: "Crucifer" Christianity (266,000 results) vs. "Crucifer" plant (501,000). There appear to be a lot more hits for the plant than for the church role. – Uanfala (talk) 22:40, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

That’s bizarre. I got 1,290,000 hits for Christianity and 666,000 hits for the plant. Do you use a different search provider? CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 22:43, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Ah you used quotation marks, no wonder. That could certainly change things up. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 22:44, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Quotation marks skew the results because users rarely use them (I think). That’s why my searches have higher overall hits than yours do. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 22:48, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

@Uanfala pinged CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 22:56, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

The quotation marks are there so that you the search engine returns results only for that exact term and not for related terms, like cruciferous or Cruciferae. – Uanfala (talk) 23:06, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Well then. It appears as though I’ve made a mistake. Would you like me to withdraw the move? CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 23:26, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Since I’m going to be very busy for a while, if you desire that I withdraw the close, please link to this diff that authorizes that you may undo this action on my behalf. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 00:29, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

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I have unreviewed a page you curated

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@Praxidicae Sorry about that, apparently I had accidentally clicked the review box. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 00:42, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

• The box next to the tag in page curation CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 00:42, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Take a look

Hello. I hope this message meets you well. If you aren't too busy, do review this page Lojay. Your kind and encouraging words are always appreciated. Amaekuma (talk) 17:54, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

@Amaekuma, I have done as you asked. I have reviewed the page and unfortunately I do not think Lojay meets the General notability guideline. Although there are citations, the English Wikipedia can be strict sometimes because it wants significant coverage, which is usually at least 50 to 100 words talking about a subject directly. In relation to Lojay, a long newspaper article talking about where he grew up and what his family did would be a better citation than a short internet article that mentions him in only one sentence. There are other issues in one of the citations, such as puffery. Wikipedia wants to be neutral, and it likes its citations to not give too much praise. But if you think the praise should be included, please say the website or information source that gave the praise.

I hope this does not disappoint you. Making articles is very tough, and is something that requires a lot of time editing and reading the rules. I suggest spending more time reading the rules and editing other articles, such as other Nigerian singers. After you have spent some time reading, talking with others, and editing, you can try and write another article. Help:Your first article is very helpful in regards to this. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 03:48, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Oh, and you are from Nigeria, right? You might consider translating articles from Hausa, Yoruba, or Igbo or another Nigerian language into English once you have gained some experience editing (I would say in a month or two). Read the instructions in the blue text carefully if you ever consider translation. Thank you for asking me to help you. I hope I have assisted you properly. If you need any more help, please ask me. Go in peace. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 03:56, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Hello. I acknowledge your message. Although I don't agree with everything you say especially regarding sourcing and wikipuffery, I have read all the articles you referred me to. Thanks for your feedback. I hope to keep getting better.

Also, unfortunately I don't know how to write any of the Nigerian major languages. I only know french and English.

Amaekuma (talk) 06:41, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

I know only Spanish and English, but there are plenty of articles for translation at WP:PNT. Once you have gained some experience, you can try translating one of the French articles on the list into English. If you need any other assistance, don’t be afraid to ask me. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 12:21, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

@Amaekuma I took a look at the sources list in WP:NIGERIA, and apparently all the sources are good enough in the article in regards to their criteria. The only problematic source is Bella Naija because it is an internet blog. After re-reviewing all the sources, including the 19th one you just added in, the article should now have enough information to be considered notable. So at this point, disregard the above statements, because the 19th source added enough coverage for an article to be written about him. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 13:40, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

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2022 Iran–Greece naval incident

Hi,Thank you for your attention .. I edited some of the article but Can you specify the sections that require editing?Aye1399 (talk) 08:44, 10 July 2022 (UTC) (talk) 12:38, 7 July 2022 Aye1399, hello there! The article reads a little bit like a news piece at the moment. Please read WP:NOTNEWS and also read MOS:WTW in the editorializing section. I believe that it is also inappropriate to refer to the Greek government response as being said by “Athens”, as it could create confusion why Athens is responding instead of Greece. Just mention the Greek official who specifically made the response instead of referring to just Athens. Anyway, I am on vacation at the moment, so I can do some editing on the article when I get back in a week or so. Cheers! CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 20:39, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I am waiting for your comments,Best Regards. Aye1399 (talk) 17:48, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

@Aye1399 I fixed up the article. It should be good now. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 04:54, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi, Thank you for your time. Aye1399 (talk) 14:12, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, I want to ask you a question please, are you a manger in Wikipedia? Tofu54401 (talk) 23:12, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

because there is a problem with a Wikipedia page Tofu54401 (talk) 23:13, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Which page? CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 23:16, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

The Beta israel page. There is a study from 2010 that mentioned that the Ethiopian jews are cluster with semetic-speaking Ethiopians and not with the cushitic-speaking Ethiopians. Yet it doesn't mentioned in the Wikipedia page. Why is that if I may asks? Tofu54401 (talk) 00:02, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

I do not know. If you want to change that, I suggest making an edit request on Talk:Beta Israel. Cheers, CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 00:31, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

How can I do that? I'm not well familiar with Wikipedia. Tofu54401 (talk) 00:50, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I just made a etit request. Check it out if you can. Tofu54401 (talk) 01:19, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

edit* Tofu54401 (talk) 01:20, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

I’ve done the same...

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something silly.

.. but you gave permission to be trouted. Thanks for fixing the oops.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 20:54, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

@Loriendrew I actually enjoy being trouted. Thanks for that! CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 20:55, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

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Stumbled into this by accident. Yikes CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 23:18, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

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Comedian Selvy Cleanup

Hello I've re-edited the following article. You may re check it and let me know on the same which area needs improvement. Thanks Rejoy2003 (talk) 17:32, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

The grammar appears to be sorely lacking. I would check the article to make sure the spelling and punctuation are correct. For example "He also reported to his co-actos and crew about a toothache." It should be "co-actors". I suggest checking the article for more spelling mistakes and grammar errors. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 17:48, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Primus Canada

Your reversion of my change is incorrect. Primus Canada is not owned by Birch Communications. Birch Communications is itself a defunct entity, having been absorbed by Fusion Connect. It is not owned by Fusion Connect either. I provided citations for all the corrections to the page that I made. Primus Canada exists as a distinct customer facing organization with it's own employees, offices &c. so it should have it's own page, like Bell Aliant, Bell MTS, Aurora Cable Internet, and many other organizations. Please correct your error. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The axel (talk • contribs) 22:04, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Please see this [1]. Public relations releases do not demonstrate notability for a company, and a Google Search/Book Search that I did did not turn up any reliable sources for the company. Please also see WP:GNG. The article needs reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Thank you, CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 22:09, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Washalma dynasty

Hi, I need your help in a Wikipedia page called the "washalma dynasty". the washalma dynasty was found in the 13th century by the Arogoba people. Yet the Somalis in Wikipedia are keep delete it. Can you do something about it? Tofu54401 (talk) 07:33, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Blocked as a sock. Doug Weller talk 12:07, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Always knew it. Didn’t want to make unsubstantiated accusations though CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 13:11, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

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2022 monkeypox outbreak/Statistics

hello @CollectiveSolidarity, 2022 monkeypox outbreak/Statistics is an article again, but don´t remove it this time because it is now a Rederect to 2022 monkeypox outbreak#Statistics. Cabin134 (talk) 22:25, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

@Cabin134, Not sure why you notified me about this. However, this is an odd redirect, because I think very few people will search for the statistics with a slash "/" I suggest moving the redirect to "2022 monkeypox outbreak statistics" instead. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 22:29, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Reviewer suggestion

Hello, CollectiveSolidarity (talk) pleases I want you to help me check this page Tolani Baj, it had some well-meaning contributors copy edit and worked on it, I want to know when it will be due for review considerations or how to improve it. Thanks and God bless Celeboyz (talk) 09:32, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

NPP drive awards

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		This award is given to CollectiveSolidarity for 195 reviews in the July NPP backlog reduction drive. Your contributions played a part in the 9895 reviews that took place during the drive. Thank you for your contributions. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 08:21, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Amir Ben-Shimon

Hello, CollectiveSolidarity,

It is not appropriate to move a 9 year old article to Draft space. Draftifying is for recently created articles, not long-standing articles. The editor who reverted your move pointed to this Village Pump Proposal as an explanation for reverting your move to Draft space. It would be worth your time to reviewing the results of this discussion that occurred earlier this year. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:34, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

@Liz It was in the new page queue, so I assumed it was recently created. But I guess I have no excuses. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 01:46, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

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A Vital Barnstar for you!

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		Great job on adding reference and history content to Bow and arrow. Hopefully, this would be the first of many expansions to come. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 15:20, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

@CactiStaccingCrane, what article are we going to focus on after the drive? I think if we can bring articles up to GA one at a time, we can speed through the reviews and get them all posted. I think FAs should be after we get all the vitals to GA, because having them all GAs in the meantime would mean that the readers would be getting slews of useful information while we work on tougher FAs. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 15:24, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

In my opinion, we should work on two GAs on the next drive, one slight broad and one slightly controversial. FAs is not our main goal here, it is not our next step due to the limited improvement FAC provides and the obscene amount of efforts required. It is more of a nice-to-have goal. Our immediate goal would be to make a lot of GA-quality articles, and to review older works to ensure that they are also of GA quality. Remember, our goal is to have 1000 Vital GAs and FAs by 2032 :) CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 15:28, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Million Award for Elden Ring

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	For your contributions to bring Elden Ring (estimated annual readership: 2,500,000) to Good Article status, I hereby present you the Million Award. Congratulations on this rare accomplishment, and thanks for all you do for Wikipedia's readers! Reidgreg (talk) 23:48, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Doppelgänger accounts

Hello, Blablubbs and I blocked a few accounts earlier that used special characters to imitate your username. Did you create these as doppelgängers? No worries if so, although you’ll want to flag them as legitimate alternative accounts. If not then there’s nothing to do, they can just stay hardblocked. Thanks! firefly ( t · c ) 18:54, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

@Firefly. No, I have not made any doppelgängers. Which accounts are they? I think I might know who is doing the impersonations CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 19:27, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Check my block log, scroll down to 14:44 today. Ultimately it’s probably some LTA or other, and usually figuring out which one isn’t worth our time. firefly ( t · c ) 19:30, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

It is definitely a LTA that I think has a small grudge against me. Thanks for blocking them. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 19:32, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello

I moved article TUMnanoSAT to draft Draft:TUMnanoSAT from main space to draft and the editor of the page things am wrong. Am here to know if I have made the same mistakes I made last time because I don't want to. Uricdivine^TalkToMe 13:43, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Since Ingenuity is inquiring into the matter on your talk page, I suggest you hear our their advice. I'd refrain from draftifying articles until you have some experience, say after you spend some time learning at New page patrol school. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 19:45, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Harcourt ministry review

Hi CollectiveSolidarity, thank you for your review of Harcourt ministry. I am, however, a little confused why you tagged it with Template:refimprove. There are 15 citations in the article; every sentence after the opening paragraph is cited. What problem needs to be resolved? I plan on making similar articles to this in the near future, so I'd like to know how to avoid issues going forward. Thanks! — Kawnhr (talk) 20:32, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

@Kawnhr That’s actually a mistake on my part. I was reviewing the sources, and I thought that the article was using the same source from the Times Colonist in 13 different citations. But re-reviewing it, I noticed that the sources were published in different years! Self-trout for me on that. I was also a little concerned with the Canadian Encyclopedia as a source, but WP:CANADA appears to accept it as a general source. All in all, this was my own mistake, and I will definitely look at Wikiproject Canada for more sourcing advice in the future. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 21:17, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

No worries, happy to see it was just a misunderstanding. — Kawnhr (talk) 22:31, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Would the United States mine Washington DC to annoy Moscow?

There is a lot of propaganda in the current war. The task of Wikipedia is to give a neutral assessment, and not to lean towards the propaganda of one side or another.

The only thing that can help here is common sense.

If we refuse to use it, there is no chance of neutrality.

Russia already controls Donetsk. Donetsk is inhabited mainly by citizens of Russia (people received Russian passports for 8 years. There are no citizens of Ukraine left there).

Name at least one reason for Russia to strike at Donetsk, or carry out remote mining?

At the same time, Russian military armies are actively moving around Donetsk. Its mining - can potentially complicate these movements. Not so much that it would make military sense, but enough not to create such problems for yourself.

The question is - why do you keep the obviously false statement that Russia is planting mines in Donetsk, but reject the obviously true one - that Ukraine is doing this?

I note that from the point of view of Ukraine, the entire population of Donetsk is the so-called "separas". That is, persons who have renounced Ukrainian citizenship are enemies of the Ukrainian state. The “separas” also include the children of Donetsk residents, as Petro Poroshenko, for example, repeatedly stated when he was the president of the country.

The OSCE forces repeatedly recorded shelling of Doncek by Ukraine, which had no obvious military goals. That is, the shelling was purely punitive in nature.

In this regard, I have a question: on what basis did you cancel my edit? It is clear that this is not a matter of neutrality.

Do you use Wikipedia for propaganda? 109.197.26.232 (talk) 14:57, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

• • Reaction to the truth adding in article: very fast deletion. Reaction to the question about deletion - ..... still waiting.... Very fanny :-D — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.197.26.232 (talk) 15:48, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

    Please cite a Reliable source for the changes you wish to make. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 16:07, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

    • Independend blogger: Youtube -NlgPdkMeWQ for example. An other: OsZ3-NhhNFI (Wikipedia add Youtube to blacklist????) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.197.26.232 (talk) 19:10, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

The Fourth Horseman by Will Henry removal

Hello, you removed an edit from the Cultural references category on the page for The Pleasant Valley War. I was referring to a book that was written as a fictionalized account of the range war in question. I believe that the line was removed in error. If not, can you let me know what I can do to have it added again? 2001:1970:4F63:A900:0:0:0:7942 (talk) 17:24, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

You can re-add it if you include a citation that identifies that the information is accurate. Take a look at WP:Reliable sources to see what qualifies as a good source to use for a citation. Once you have a source that confirms the information, you can add back the information alongside a source. You can look at the Teahouse if you have any further questions. Cheers! CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 17:32, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! I've re-edited but will look into your suggestions. It's difficult to find a citation for an old book. 2001:1970:4F63:A900:0:0:0:7942 (talk) 17:50, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi Please reinstate the changes that I made to the Pleasant valley War page. I added a proper citation as you suggested and it has been taken down. 2001:1970:4F63:A900:0:0:0:7942 (talk) 19:09, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

I replaced the citation you added with a text I found on Google Books. Wikipedia likes citations to have straightforward information that is directly confirmed by the cited text, and I could not find text in Will Henry's novel saying where he found the inspiration for The Fourth Horseman. Thankfully, I found a third-party source that confirmed the information that you mentioned. Anyway, I'm sadly not the strongest voice around here when it comes to editing advice, so if you need any further assistance, you can ask the Teahouse or the Help desk. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 02:54, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

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Cereal

Hey, I saw that the article hasn't been expanded for days, even though you chose it as part of the 30 kB drive. What's the hold up and how can I help you with that? CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 15:29, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

@CactiStaccingCrane I just got back from an Enforced Wikibreak and will be finishing this article shortly. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 01:34, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Article review

Hi there, following up on your comments at Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Optional_RfA_candidate_poll, I was wondering if you'd mind taking a look at Sundrum Castle? Any comments very welcome. Thank you. -Kj cheetham (talk) 19:42, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Sure! I can take a look CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 20:01, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

@Kj cheetham Alright, here are a few things I noticed :

• The lead is a bit short for a GA at the moment. I suggest expanding it with some more details on this history of the castle, its design etc. 2-3 paragraphs is usually the typical length for a GA.
• I suggest merging the section "Current History" with the 20th and 21st century subsections.
• The current spacing of sentences is a bit choppy; They should be merged into singular paragraphs if possible.
• There is a citation needed tag, and a few sentences might need some copyedits. I can help with the latter.

This is just a cursory glance, and a GA reviewer will go into more depth on the contents of the article. I’m not very experienced with buildings, but I can help out some. Take a look at the FA Bodiam Castle if you need any inspiration. You don’t need to make it as expansive as Bodiam, but some general history and/or design will be enough for GA. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 20:29, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for that! I've merged the sections as you suggested and added a tiny bit more to the lead. I don't think enough material exists to make it the length of Bodiam Castle alas, but I'll try and work on it a bit more over the next week. It seems to be mostly single sentance paragraphs in the second half of the article, so I need to focus on that I think. It you can help with copyedits after I work on it a bit longer that would be appreciated. -Kj cheetham (talk) 17:04, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi again CollectiveSolidarity I've done some more work to expand it, would you mind taking another look? Any help on the copyediting side would be much appreciated. I think I find it easier to proof-read other people's work than my own! Hopefully I can submit it to GA soon, though imagine it may be a while before it gets reviewed. Thank you. -Kj cheetham (talk) 15:52, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Alright! I’ll review the page and improve when needed. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 16:50, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi CollectiveSolidarity, much appreciated for your edits! I've also not got a 2nd one in progress at Maybole Castle too. -Kj cheetham (talk) 10:52, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Great! I'll take a look CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 12:32, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

August thanks

August songs

Thank you for improving articles in August! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:49, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Look at the church where I heard VOCES8. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:14, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Closure

Hi. I just wanted to thank you again for closing the thread. I wasn't going to pursue the issue anyway even though I have found many times over the last 28 years that threads on Internet fora between anonymous people simply become a platform for unreflected claims. I'm sure good faith was meant by the OP but familiarity with the topic being addressed and a better understanding of English would have been more helpful just as with other dissent which has been only 0.7% of the call to action. Your username does you proud, thank you for your support. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:02, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Elden Ring

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United States

I didn't see any consensus for removal of the "Western democracies" qualification (Talk archive 102), but don't feel strongly one way or another. We'll see if other editors let it stand. Mason.Jones (talk) 14:26, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

@Mason.Jones. I originally supported its inclusion, but I then realized that making comparisons is not always the best thing on Wikipedia. But yeah, just like you, I have no strong feelings one way or the other. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 19:28, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

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@Blaze Wolf I suggest you use the square button on SW to open the exact diff tab and use Redwarn/Twinkle/Etc to send the specific warning. That’s what I do anyway. ‡ Night Watch ω (talk) 20:56, 29 September 2022 (UTC)