User talk:Geo Swan/archive/2018-05

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Please be more careful

Please be aware that someone editing anonymously is not a reason to revert their edits. Please ensure you assume good faith. Continuing to revert edits based on this can be grounds for blocking as it is against the rules and spirit of Wikipedia. It may be prudent to read about our community prior to continuing to edit as competency is required. You can also visit the tea house if you have further questions. 2605:8D80:686:AFAA:AB44:F871:7412:80AF (talk) 02:14, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

• For the record 2605:8D80:686:AFAA:AB44:F871:7412:80AF resorts to using anonymous IP addresses to evade their well deserved indefinite block.
• Yes, I did make a series of reversions of another anonymous IP -- who was continuing to make horrible racist edits, in spite of a series of warnings.
• This edit reverted the SPA's substitution of "execution" with POV "torture-murder". It reverted the frankly racist passage "...The details confirmed the opinions of many that the Indians were irreparably savage..."
• In this edit I reverted the SPA's indefensible insertion of "savage" prior to Shawnee. This was both racist and unrefenced.
• In this edit I reverted "...pointed up the baleful effect of warlike, caste-ridden Prussia on the German character..." also racist and unreferenced. Geo Swan (talk) 03:28, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Thanks For The Heads Up

Thanks for the heads up. Yes, World Lamest Critic has been (or was) following me around for sometime, obsessed with me, doing everything they could to get rid of articles I'd created. This person was seriously obsessed, it was unreal. No administrator did anything about it though. My nickname for them was World's Lamest Sockpuppet. I also got a message once from Wikipedia that someone was trying to access my account but failed to use the correct password several times, someone was trying to hack my account on Wikipedia. If I can go back and find out what their original account was I will let you know. Neptune's Trident (talk) 15:19, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

• Thanks. WLC left a faux "friendly reminder" on the commons. Geo Swan (talk) 16:00, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

• Thanks for letting me know about this and the "friendly reminder". By the way, I'm not J.C. Maçek as some editor on here seems to believe. Neptune's Trident (talk) 20:39, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

• P.S. It says who this user is right on their talk page: Govindaharihari

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:World%27s_Lamest_Critic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Govindaharihari

Just letting you know. Neptune's Trident (talk) 15:28, 17 May 2018 (UTC)o

• Wow! That WLC! Here he has the nerve to pretend he didn't write "I don't mean this in an insulting way, but do A you happen to have a spectrum disorder? It may explain some of our communication difficulties."
• What does the first sentence of spectrum disorder say? It says it is a "mental disorder".
• What does the first sentence of mental disorder say? It says "A mental disorder, also called a mental illness or psychiatric disorder, is a behavioral or mental pattern that causes significant distress or impairment of personal functioning."

• The wikipedia's civility rules and conventions tell us to try to confine discussions to editorial issues, and refrain from insulting comments. At Wikipedia_talk:No_personal_attacks#NPA question [1] WLC was explicitly told his comments seemed insulting. WLC even has the nerve to claim that, somehow, I am the one who is insulting other people, by describing spectrum disorder as a mental illness.

• My general policy on how to respond to rudeness and persone seral attacks is to do my best to take the high road, and not "respond in kind". I figure the project is best served when at least one party to a disagreement remains civil. Occasionally difficult people will return to civility when one is consistently civil. I did my best to not respond in kind to WLC's abuse, and I think I did an okay job.

• But does WP:AGF only apply to other wikipedia contributors? Now that they have been indefinitely blocked do I have any remaining obligation to try to AGF about WLC? Geo Swan (talk) 23:25, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

• Holy moly! Well, I'd say a certain editor (and I don't mean you, Geo Swan) is really going off the deep end, only in my opinion. He (or she, they) really is obsessed. Crazy. Neptune's Trident (talk) 03:14, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

• P.S. Note to Geo Swan and other third parties World's Lamest Critic has also been Wikistalking me as well for some time, following me around Wikipedia and messaging me and accusing me of being someone who I am not. Not sure if there's anything that can be done about this but I just wanted to make it known. Neptune's Trident (talk) 21:02, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

• P.S.S. Note to Geo Swan and other third parties, World's Lamest Critic left me another rather ominous "you've been naughty again..." message here. Neptune's Trident (talk) 23:14, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.11 25 May 2018

Hello Geo Swan/archive, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

ACTRIAL:

• WP:ACREQ has been implemented. The flow at the feed has dropped back to the levels during the trial. However, the backlog is on the rise again so please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day; a backlog approaching 5,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

Deletion tags

• Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders. They require your further verification.

Backlog drive:

• A backlog drive will take place from 10 through 20 June. Check out our talk page at WT:NPR for more details. NOTE: It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing. Despite our goal of reducing the backlog as much as possible, please do not rush while reviewing.

Editathons

• There will be a large increase in the number of editathons in June. Please be gentle with new pages that obviously come from good faith participants, especially articles from developing economies and ones about female subjects. Consider using the 'move to draft' tool rather than bluntly tagging articles that may have potential but which cannot yet reside in mainspace.

Paid editing - new policy

• Now that ACTRIAL is ACREQ, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. There is a new global WMF policy that requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.

Subject-specific notability guidelines

• The box at the right contains each of the subject-specific notability guidelines, please review any that are relevant BEFORE nominating an article for deletion.
• Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves with the new version of the notability guidelines for organisations and companies.

Not English

• A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, tag as required, then move to draft if they do have potential.

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• Development is underway by the WMF on upgrades to the New Pages Feed, in particular ORES features that will help to identify COPYVIOs, and more granular options for selecting articles to review.
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Rachel Giese

I use Twinkle (an automated service) to initiate AFD discussions, which is supposed to automatically notify the relevant parties. So no, there was no wrongdoing or oversight on my part — if you failed to get a notification, then Twinkle had a technical hiccup of some kind that I have no control over or responsibility to answer for. But it's precisely because such things can happen that you also have the personal responsibility to watchlist your own work so that you're not depending solely on external notifications to be aware of such things.

It's certainly possible that Rachel Giese would be notable enough for a Wikipedia article if it had been referenced properly — but it's unconditionally true that the sources you used to support the article were not ones that got her over WP:GNG. A person does not qualify for a Wikipedia article by sourcing it to her own staff profiles on the websites of her own employers, or to pieces of her own writing about other things, or to Q&A interviews in which she's the speaker and not the subject, or to her own book's publication details on Google Books — a person gets a Wikipedia article by being the subject of reliable source coverage in media, and thye only source you added which met that standard was covering her in the context of buying a house with her wife, not in the context of anything relevant to her notability as a journalist.

The question of whether she clears a notability standard or not is not about what the article says she did — it's about how well you can or can't reference what it says she did, and you didn't reference it the correct way to make it includable. So, yeah, I'd say you have a bit of a blind spot about what it takes to demonstrate that a person is notable enough for a Wikipedia article — because none of the references you used to support that version were notability-supporting ones at all.

Regardless, the page will be at User:Geo Swan/Rachel Giese for you momentarily. Bearcat (talk) 21:55, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the userification.

WRT watchlists, the WMF is a cash-rich non-profit. They employ a team of software developers, who, sadly, release pointless, terrible "wizards", rather than improvements that would really help improve the project. I am one of the most prolific contributors, and I outgrew watchlists a decade ago. I had edited so many articles that going through my watchlist, once a day, would take more time than I had allocated for a whole day's contributions. The WMF developers should have provided us with multiple watchlists, and improved ways of looking at our watchlists. On my wishlist would be a way to be shown articles from my watchlist, when they were edited by someone else -- but only if my last edit was also recent, ie yesterday, or the last week, or the last month.

WRT your comments on notability and blindspots -- sorry I have a committee meeting tonight, so I can't reply to those comments satisfactorily now. I will reply soon. Geo Swan (talk) 22:25, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

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