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DYK

Seems like I'm going to get my first - Template:Did you know nominations/Megitza. Still waiting for Template:Did you know nominations/Jacobus Deketh to be reviewed. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 19:03, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, but you should only get the nomination credit for this on, I will leave a note there. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:35, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

For the Megitza one? Just looking, the user had 1 edit on the article. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 20:37, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

It is almost all of what the article is. The rest of the edits may have improved it, but added virtually no new readable text. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:45, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Now it seems I won't get a DYK. :o --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 20:50, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

You get nomination credit. To get a DYK you have to write about over characters of a new article yourself. Not claim credit for someoneelses stuff. I have not rejected the DYK, I will let someone else sort that out. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:37, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to try and expand to 11'000 characters. Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 06:26, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

That would get you a whole credit by yourself as well! But I would guess it would be easier to start a new topic, or expand a shorter article. With your expertise on Maths I am sure you could do a good job with one of those. I seem to remember that the -2 article was deleted, perhaps that is an opportunity for you! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:42, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

I've expanded to 10.4K 12,796 characters (+5600~) - good? --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 19:55, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

I get 1873 characters in the discography, which should be enough to get you a credit. If the DYK assessor excuses the lateness! Remember we count the characters visible to the reader that are text to read. So that cuts out the Wikimarkup. Though there are a lot of columns full of dashes, are they useful? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:47, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

It took me 2 hours somehow to add that wikitable, I put a few references in and another section. I'd say it's useful, and will find some chart data. After a small investigation, I think Wotworld is a sockpuppet of User:Megitza - as the Megitza account made Wotworld's sandbox. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 06:30, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I was talking about the columns for charting in USA Australia etc, they are useless. I would be more useful if the columns were for Poland and countries nearby where the artist may be popular. Good pickup on User:Megitza. Either this is the same person and this is an autobiography or the article is a copyright infringement. Wotworld created the Megitza page 4 minutes after the sandbox was last changed. Users here do not have to own up to their real world identity, one of the very few rights that we have here, but if it is an autobiography we should know. It may also have other explanations other than a sock. So how are you aware of the editing of the sand box? If they are two different people then attribution should be made and watworld should not get a DYK credit, instead it should be User:Megitza. I suggest that you contact these two users to find out if they are the same person or not. The images are also problematic user Megitza claims to own copyright on the album cover and says that photo is "own personal photo". The other photos uploaded are clearly not taken by the artist, even though it is claimed "own work". Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:55, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I started the SPI because of that. I wouldn't think it to be an autobiography, as I saw no reference in the first revision of 'I', 'Me' or anything like that. I saw the image on Flickr somewhere, saying it was free. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 15:32, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

By the way, look here. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 15:46, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

That is good news, you will probably get a DYK credit. Will you put a ? symbol at the top of your user page, once it appears? So are you going to reveal your Dutch reading skills? SPI may only be useful if there is abuse. There is none here so far that I have noticed. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:13, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

For the DYK I'd stick the ? at the top of the page until their are 5 there, then just link to it, Give me a link to something in Dutch. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 22:11, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Also, can you hide my IP from the last revision? I forgot to log in... --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 22:11, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Try http://www.archiefleeuwardercourant.nl/vw/img.do?id=LC-17641212-3001 this is the estate ad for JD. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:23, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I'll take a look around 5PM (UK) - when I have computer access, I'm using BlackBerry now... --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 22:25, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Since it is lead article with pic we should get more page views. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:39, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Hopefully. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 15:21, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

5335 pageviews. You can add it to the above 5000 page. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:43, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Dear Graeme, RE: William Whitcombe, Priest in Ordinary to the Queen - you need to be logged into the Times or the Daily Telegraph in order to see the entry. It is also possible to see the entry on the British Monarchy website if you type in "William Whitcombe"in the keywords search. I have PDF/screen shots, would they be acceptable to send you ? Thanks, Andy

Dear Graeme, on the subject of William Whitcombe, a 2nd reference would be : The Daily Telegraph, Court Circular page 30, Saturday 28 April 2012. Also the website http://www.royal.gov.uk/LatestNewsandDiary/CourtCircular/Todaysevents.aspx where William Whitcombe can be searched under 4 Keywords. Hope this might help? Blessings, Andy. Simonevans680 (talk) 22:34, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Jacobus Deketh

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:04, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Graeme Bartlett, It seems as the DYK passed, I saw it on the main page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomtomn00 (talk • contribs) 19:12, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Articles

I thought I'd post this here, I've just hit 60 articles! I've got 2700 on my Mac to add to Wikipedia. See Toolserver. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 11:31, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

2700 is an awful lot! I hope you are going to go past the stub stage too. You should learn to use the stub templates. Also be aware of super cats. You do not need broader categories most of the time. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:59, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

They vary from 650 characters to 76933 characters. Smallest come first. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 17:51, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Wang Zigan

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Animal Welfare Act of 1966

If I understand correctly, I think you are the campus ambassador for the students working on that page. I'd appreciate it if you could take a look there, and maybe prod the students along a bit in responding to my concerns about their edits. I really don't want to "bite", but I'm getting close to doing so. Thanks! --Tryptofish (talk) 20:57, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the fixes. Something that concerns me, however, is that I've been making a lot of similar fixes and the students just keep doing the same things. I don't know whether they just don't care, or are having trouble understanding what is expected of them, but I've come to feel that correcting their edits is becoming a sort of crutch for them, and it makes me uncomfortable. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:09, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

When I examine the problems I will inform them. Somehow I think there is more than a bolding in a title that is annoying you! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:11, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that. As for your latter point, it undoubtedly comes from my many years of grading papers! --Tryptofish (talk) 22:17, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Report-nav

"Looks like nav". What is that even supposed to mean? {{Report-nav}} includes {{Nav}}, which was deleted ages ago. If it's dependent on a redlink template, it falls under G8; failing that, it's an obvious G6 for housekeeping since it's no longer used. It creates Report:Index space pages, which is no longer supported. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 18:38, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Since it has an xFD just let it run. The nav that was deleted was not to do with this template. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:03, 1 May 2012 (UTC) so I don't think that G8 applies. THere may be another reason such as broken and useless. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:03, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

There is nothing that precludes speedying something at XFD. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 22:53, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

But we get a more definative result if the xFD runs. If we speedy delete then we cannot use G4 recreation reason to speedy later on. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:59, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

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Hi, yesterday you declined several of my speedy deletion request about some football clubs such as Kuwasen FC. you said article suggest the article appears in the media. Please check again, that is just personal blog or self publish, no media, even some blog link is not work again. The club only local villagers club in one of regency in Indonesia, they just play in league to reserve club of Persijap Jepara. They clearly uncovered by national media even local media. *Annas* (talk) 06:30, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

What you describe is a reason to prod or AFD them en-mass them rather than a speedy delete. I think you could add it to the leage AFD. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:20, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Mei Baojiu

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Cheers!

Thanks for the Admin help with Anesthesiologist_assistant. I should have noticed the incorrect A capitalisation. Cheers! editing is fun Mediation4u (talk) 13:19, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Hio

When I come back from my attempted wikibreak (7d), I've got 11000+ articles to create... Should I do them all at once or in batches of around 10-20? --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 18:07, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Do them bit by bit. You have often rushed in too fast with quantity at the expense of quality before, so go slow enough so that page patrollers will find only good stuff. How did you manage to write 11000 articles? Are they stubs produced automatically from databases? Others in the past have got into trouble for careless creation of articles with errors, so I recommend that you check each one carefully to see that the reference supports the information, that you put on correct categories, that the information is correct, and suitable stub templates are applied. And also make sure that the article is not present under another name already, in which case you should be editting or redirecting instead. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:44, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Created manually. I've been told their sub-stubs, so I'm going to expand 3000 highway ones. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 06:47, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Do they satisfy WP:GNG? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:13, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

I'd say they do, but I've been getting bad comments on them, and being told that they're sub-stubs, and I may get blocked for disruptive editing if I don't stop... Help? --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 21:20, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Well stop and talk about it with the complainers. Is there a guide for highway articles? If not you will have to follow the WP:GNG. I hope you know what the requirements are now, two independent reliable substantial coverages of the topic. I will take a look at what you did. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:45, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Certainly the substantial coverage is not achieved. What coverage I see is a one liner in a table from the people that look after the roads. It looks to me as if nearly everything in Louisiana is called a highway, and you may not have much to say about each one. So before you put the articles in I would urge you to find substantial coverage. You may have to go back in time to when the road was built to find a newspaper story or government gazette, or politicians debate. Perhaps there was a major accident on the road that got a news story. As it stands List of numbered highways in Louisiana could contain all the useful content you included. Also imagine that you are a reader of the articles you wrote. What do you want to know about the roads? Probably geographic coords of the ends, the names of all the towns along it, which direction it goes in, how many lanes, what kind of surface, bridges across what water-courses, what can be seen from the road, (for tourists) any notable businesses, facilities or famous people known to live there? What is the population or number of buildings on that road? (for the junk mailers) Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:02, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

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AWB Access

Hi there,

Why does my name keep getting deleted off the AWB access request list?.... I put my name on the list twice now and I can't see what happened to my request because my name is gone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WordClerk (talk • contribs) 19:06, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Have a look here. It was declined then archived. Thanks! --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 19:25, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

WordClerk people that get AWB have a much bigger track record of adding or editing in articles. see http://toolserver.org/~tparis/pcount/index.php?name=WordClerk&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/WordClerk&namespace=0&limit=500. Only occasionally people with few edits like you get the AWB tool, and they will have much experience on another wikimedia Wiki, along with already proving that they know how to use AWB there. If you get up to a few hundred edits you can give a good reason to make use of the tool, and it will be considered. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:18, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks

Thank you for adding me to AWB checkpage. --Meno25 (talk) 13:45, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Articles

Would you say this is an improvement? --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 15:39, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, an improvement. Though your reference on Google maps is not confirming what you state. Also you need a whole lot of disambiguation for Morehouse, Marion, Sulfur Springs and Bonita. And where is the parish/county? United States is not a county. There are still not references to prove WP:GNG. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:50, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Conserved signature indels

Hey ye the bacterialphylogeny website in mine, i had also sent an official email from the websites account. I would appreciate, if this article could just get published soon. Thanks a lot for your help! Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Conserved signature indels (CSIs)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Cfxauran (talk • contribs) 22:13, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Wu Mi

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User:SwisterTwister/Welcome

Would you please protect this page to autoconfirmed users only. I would like to keep this page free from vandalism. Thanks, SwisterTwister talk 22:06, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Iron hydride

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Conserved signature indels.

Hey I have emailed you the permission for the bacterialphlogeny website. Let me know if you have received it and what needs to be done now. Thanks! Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Conserved signature indels (CSIs) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cfxauran (talk • contribs) 23:45, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

received and confirmed. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:20, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

GA

Can I nominate Jacobus Deketh for GA - as I created it? Thanks, Graeme Bartlett! --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 07:49, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Well you are not restricted from nominating it, but I think it would not pass. Nominators are likely to be involved in the creation or editing an article, and they are expected to have a keen interest in fixing the issues raised. So you would need to be committed to every issue raised by the assessor. Before you nominate it I think you need to look at the captain's log books, over in Den Hague, quite close to where you are! (Well a ship ride away). You may be able to request the archive to do a scan for you to get it online. One issue is whether Deketh sailed on the Edam or not. And as far as I can remember you have not translated that newspaper ad for his estate. The idea is to make sure that coverage is complete, amongst other things. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:07, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

I will nominate it, but will address all issues raised. It's already C class. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 08:13, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Also, at WP:GAN, what cat would it be under? War and military? Not sure... --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 08:16, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

I think you have the right category 5.5.3 under history. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:00, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

I've put it under war and military now, I'll put helpme template on my talk. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 09:02, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

rfc close

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added. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:41, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. Nobody Ent 18:30, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Sorry!

I stole another article off your to create list. It's just got the tick for a DYK and has started a GA. See Compton-Belkovich Thorium Anomaly. Sorry! --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 13:07, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

It is good to see it there, I will cross it off. It looks as if I may need to put more on that list! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 13:35, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

(crazy evil laugh) - heh. Could you look at the GA nom for that? (Compton-Belkovich Thorium Anomaly) --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 13:37, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Are you learning that laugh from User:Dr. Blofeld? With that quality editing you have elicited from the GOCE, a GA should be achievable. It would be easier than Deketh because sources are easier to get hold of. We need to check for complete coverage, so that no significant aspects are omitted. Some questions: are there any meteorites from the moon that have come off that anomaly? What other minerals are found there? What does the light colour mean? What is the area? What is the volume of magma? What is the radiation level? Is it safe? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 13:52, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, and the evil orginisation. :) I'll have a look, if information is around. :D --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 13:57, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

And has it appeared in popular culture? eg Moon Base Alpha huh no article? Moonbase Alpha (Space: 1999) is the one. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 14:02, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Right, I found some things.

• Elevation changes between 50 metres (160 ft) and 100 metres (330 ft).
• Many lava extrusions along the east and west flanks of it.
• Features do not all have continuous rim.
• Irregular underlying shapes.
• Near-surface magma chamber.
• Many magma chambers have collapsed
• 214 kilometres (133 mi) diameter.

• Could you make a paragraph out of that for me and post it here so I can have a look? If so, 2 barnstars will be on the way! --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 14:17, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

• Where was the reference for that? 21:45, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

• I can't link to it well on iPad, but the WUSTL one on the article - the .PDF file. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 21:48, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

WP Geology in the Signpost

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Glossary

Graeme, I noticed your comment in the Signpost interview that geological terms should have short articles to explain and illustrate them. Are you familiar with Glossary of geology? RockMagnetist (talk) 04:49, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi RockMagnetist thanks for pointing out the list, I should be adding to it. I am now aware, but I note that nearly every term here has an article. It is all the things missing off the list that also need an article of more than one line, with examples and diagram. Some examples not there are tectonometamorphism and Assimilation (geology) (which I think you could write about!) Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:55, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

I know that "Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated." Nothing on the relevance to geology, alas - we are all so specialized. As far as I know, there is no restriction on adding terms that have no article (although they would require a citation). RockMagnetist (talk) 05:07, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Do you think my answers are complaining too much? I should be less critical I suppose. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:30, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Your answers seemed fine to me. RockMagnetist (talk) 05:49, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Mac Arnold Image

Hello Graeme Bartlett, Yesterday I uploaded ,(twice), an image of Mac Arnold. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mac_Arnold_4-28-2012_035.jpg I am Warren Andres, aka Stansun. I took the photograph and need some help fixing the mess that I have made. Can you help a rookie please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stansun (talk • contribs) 18:07, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

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Hi

Jacobus Deketh and CBTA passed the GA Nominations today. Both now Good Articles! --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 22:36, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

That was amazingly speedy! I can take credit for most of the text in Jacobus Deketh! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:32, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Need AWB

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Merger proposal

Hi Graeme, long time no see! The merger proposal at Talk:Cloud_computing#Introduction_to_Cloud_computing has unanimous support, however, with reservations with regards to the size of the article and which content should go where. I thought I'd contact you, as you are an admin, to carry out the merge. Regards, —James ^{(Talk • Contribs)} • 1:28pm • 03:28, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Mei Baojiu

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Hi!

I've gone and made 300+ stubs in the last 12 hours. Hence autopatrol (and AN thread — no action). --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 06:31, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Well the stubs are not very useful at this point, they do not say where the beetles are found or any useful reference, such as the discovery publication. DO you realize there are 100000's of beetle species? Now you have to expand all those stubs! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:38, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Do you think you can automatically create the inter wikis as well; joopibot has made articles on vi and nl wikipedia already on the topic of some of your stubs. Wikispecies may have some of them too. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:45, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Well, at least I'm making them. They're actually longer than other living creature articles because they have the discovery date. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 06:49, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

The discover appears in your info box so perhaps you could generate text for that, particularly if you can work out their whole name. Does your stub generator look on commons to see if there is an image? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:09, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm not using a stub generator — I'm doing these manually. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 07:14, 19 May 2012 (UTC) So, it takes a while... --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 07:19, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

I thought you would write a bit of code that went through the list of beetles, generate a slab of wikitext, and then paste it into a new article (manually). I could write a sed or awk command to do this. but those extra checks take a bit more effort manually. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:22, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

I could (and would), but I feel better doing it manually [...] for some reason... --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 07:24, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

As a side note, I've now made 11x(and-a-bit) the autopatrol requirement. See toolserver. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 07:26, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Urgent

Take a look at Talk:Jacobus Deketh/GA2... --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 18:46, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK

I've addressed Dr. Blofeld's issues they found. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 11:27, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Home Is the Sailor (Cheers)

I've made updates. See Template:Did you know nominations/Home is the Sailor. --George Ho (talk) 21:57, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Well someone else promoted it and it is now in the queue. So I guess I have approved it. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 13:07, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

IP 167.93.20.196

The IP is registered to the School District of Volusia County, FLA. I wonder if, in the circumstances, a soft block might be more appropriate? Of course, I'm not questioning your judgement or block decision in any way =) GwenChan 12:38, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

The block already allows account creation and logon, it is as soft as it can get, the problem is some one running a spambot on this IP number. Is there a suitable template to indicate this ability to ? I have changed to anonblock template. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:54, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

My apologies, I assumed that account creation had been blocked also. Regarding the tl, I'm not sure, but I will have a gander and reply if I find a suitable one. GwenChan 13:02, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

NNU wrap-up time is May 30

Hello. There are still some articles at Wikipedia:School and university projects/NNU Class Project/Winter 2012/Student list that need moving to the mainspace. Some have rubbish references and could be AfDd, so best not move those. But many just need a bit of cleanup and a move. If you have time to do a few, we would be much obliged. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:45, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Articles for Creation Appeal

Articles for Creation is backlogged and needs YOUR help! Articles for Creation is desperately in need of reviewers! We are looking for urgent help, from experienced editors and administrators alike, to help us clear a record backlog of pending submissions. There is currently a significant backlog of 1067 submissions waiting to be reviewed. These submissions are generally from new editors who have never edited Wikipedia before. A prompt, constructive review of submissions could significantly editor retention. Do you have what it takes? Are you familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines? Do you know what Wikipedia is and is not? Do you have a working knowledge of the Manual of Style, particularly article naming conventions? Are you (at least) autoconfirmed? Can you review submissions based on their individual merits? If the answer to these questions is yes, then please read the reviewing instructions and donate a little of your time to helping tackle the backlog. Click here to review to a random submissionArticle selected by erwin85's random article script on toolserver. We would greatly appreciate your help. Currently, only a small handful of users are reviewing articles. Any help, even if it's just 1 or 2 reviews, would be extremely beneficial. On behalf of the Articles for Creation project, AndrewN talk 23:48, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Backlog declogging

Hello. Do you know any admin that regularly patrols WP:RFPP at this time of day? That page is currently backlogged with requests, including Eurovision-related articles and my requests for protection of Daigunder and Children's programming on NBC (regularly vandalized by the Indonesian misinformation vandal, nonetheless). - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 23:27, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

AWB Requests

Hi! Currently the AWB Requests page is backlogged with requests for permission to use AWB. Would you mind patrolling the page? Thank You! --Tow Trucker talk 17:41, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Natalie Hurst

I noticed you added Template:Did you know nominations/Natalie Hurst to the DYK queue. The hook says she was "once suspended from basketball for five weeks for swearing at a referee". I was wondering if this breaks the rule that says, "Articles and hooks that focus unduly on negative aspects of living individuals should be avoided." What do you think? StAnselm (talk) 21:18, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

I don't think it is too negative, but I don't mind if you substitute the hook. It passed three of the major contributors at DYK, Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:36, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

I've been thinking about it, but nothing comes to mind - we can hardly just have her height. I don't feel particularly strongly about this - I feel I've done enough in alerting you to it. StAnselm (talk) 21:50, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Re:File:Edfirstwedding.jpg

As discussed earlier in Wikipedia:Media copyright questions/Archive/2012/May#File:Edfirstwedding.jpg, the Getty Images page reveals that this photo may be profitable. Nevertheless, you said that this image is fair use, correct? Unfortunately, File:Cheers cast photo.jpg is nominated for deletion because commercial rights of this image are currently owned by the Getty Images and use of that photo in Wikipedia violates WP:NFCC#2. I wonder who is right or wrong about this. --George Ho (talk) 22:20, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

You can nominate it for deletion, it is not really a speedy delete candidate though. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:37, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

I can't without approval from one of my mentors. Begoon, who is on long wikibreak, is sympathetic toward the image, but I don't know if I want to contact MGA73 about this. --George Ho (talk) 02:11, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Also, I contacted the uploader about this, but the uploader has not been seen since February 2012. --George Ho (talk) 02:17, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

In response to my feedback

I know. I am on Wikipedia French and Arabic since 2 years now; but I want to say that if there is the option of "what you see is what you get", it will be easier.
Thanks for responding me; it's a pleasure.--Ghabara (talk) 13:42, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

In response to Post On My Talk Page

Well.I did the best with creating articles on which i had Knowledge . I have also spent about 5 days In AFC section . But, User Pol430 asked me not to Check The Submissions because The user said that i wasn't checking the submissions correctly . I guess i have understood guidelines for checking AFC submissions perfectly . If There are any chances , i would definitely check the submissions back . Also these are my Summer Vacations can spend full time over Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arshad.mohammed18 (talk • contribs) 10:30, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Looking at Articles for creation/The British School in Tokyoit rather seems to give information about a School . It doesn't look like a Advertisement.Rather than it gives information about school and its activities .If the reliable sources and little bit of editing is done over to the article . It might not seem like commercial .The article had been declined by the user?. I want to accept it can i by editing little bit?.

This looks to be feasible to get into article space, and it would be good if you improve it. Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The British School in Tokyo Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:42, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps, Looking forward to Edit it and then Accept it Arshad.mohammed18 (talk) 12:48, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Controversial move?

Re this close - could you tell me what you think is controversial about the move, so I can address it in the RM? - htonl (talk) 21:14, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

The speedy delete nomination on Magistrate's Court (South Africa) was sitting there for over 7 hours with no administrator willing to do it, which they would be if it looked obvious and non controversial. So you should start a requested move section on the talk page. The policy here is the most commonly used name should be what is the Wikipedia article name, rather than an official name, so the requested move should consider what newspapers and other writings about the topic use. Other editors may consider what is grammatically correct. I am not arguing any particular direction at this point, just that the speedy delete was controversial. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:26, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I have opened an RM with evidence of both official and media use. - htonl (talk) 21:51, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Rambo: The Last Stand

I see that you chose a redirect rather than deletion of Rambo the last stand. I had considered that option before nominating, but then I didn't feel that the article title was valid since the 5th installment has not yet begun production, so the title of the film (or even its existence) is not yet set in stone. If they choose to make the film under a different title, this article's title won't make any sense at all. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 16:15, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Tetris pieces

Tell me what "discussion" needs to go on in a template consisting of nothing but tetris pieces. It's like "Discussing" a page whose entire content is asjkdhfjksdlhsajkhksajrhaelkrj. It's clearly pointless vandalism and doesn't need to slog through XFD for a week or longer. Speedy and XFD can overlap. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 19:51, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

I would not call it vandalism, perhaps it is a test, pointless, or misguided though. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 19:58, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

I implied "perhaps it is a test" to mean "It's not G6, but may be G2, so re-tag it as such". Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 19:33, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

You still haven't told me how it's not speediable. "It's at XFD" is not a reason. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 22:57, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

David Steen

Why have you deleted the David Steen photo? It was supplied by him specifically for this article?--Shylock's Boy (talk) 23:59, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

It is David Steen's copyright and was supplied specifically for his entry.--Shylock's Boy (talk) 11:57, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Is he prepared to grant a creative commons CC-BY-SA-3.0 license? This will enable modification and any use. If so there will need to be a proof following the procedure in WP:PERMIT. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:14, 1 June 2012 (UTC) Yes plus for the other pic someone else deleted. --Shylock's Boy (talk) 12:49, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

In that case get him to send in the email, possibly via you to the email adress listed so that the OTRS volunteers can check the grant. THey will ask for a restore if you name the images, otherwise get back to me and I will restore them. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:22, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Accepted articles

Hi, I'm the author of both the articles Thin disk and Thick disk which I believe you might have approved (or moved? I'm not really sure how this works yet) Anyway I noticed both of them have an AFC template that implies and unregistered user made them and I just wanted to point out that is incorrect since I created them. Would it be ok if I removed the template? Regards. Gaba p (talk) 01:38, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

This is the project header which should stay on. If you read it carefully the statement about unregistered users is about the project and not about you. If you want to you can add more projects to the talk page such as the Astronomy project. Or you can add a talk page statment about yourself and why you made the contribution. Thankyou for writing these as I think I looked for thesee topc=ics once before On Wikipedia. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:54, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Great! Thank you for clearing that up. I think I'll add the Astronomy project too now that you mention it. Cheers. Gaba p (talk) 11:03, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I'm the author of Dolores Cannon, thanks for approving the article! I was most excited, it was the first one I created. I was wondering if you know how I can go about adding a photo to the article? Thanks so much! (and hopefully i typed my question in the right spot on your page - if not I'll send this message elsewhere once I find out. Thanks again! - Brian 16:10, 2 June 2012

DYK for Cancer epigenetics

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

You know you shouldn't be giving yourself DYKs, lol. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 20:14, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

It looks silly, next time this happens perhaps I should let the bot put its own sig. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:44, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for !voting

	at my successful RFA
	Thank you, Graeme Bartlett, for !voting at my successful RFA; I am humbled that you put your trust in me, and look forward to seeing some more of your work at DYK. I grant you this flower, which, if tended to properly, will grow to be the fruit of Wikipedia's labours.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:33, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Categorizing plant articles

Hi, I noticed your good faith categorization of some Crinum articles. In general the WP:PLANTS approach is to categorize plant articles at the lowest level that will produce a category of a minimum size of about 10 items. So Crinum, Crinum asiaticum and Crinum latifolium were categorized at Category:Amaryllidoideae (the subfamily) rather than at the genus Crinum. Whether this is the best approach or not is arguable, but if you do categorize plant articles lower down, you do need to remove the higher category (in this case Amaryllidoideae). Peter coxhead (talk) 23:39, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

I thought that the 7 there were a reasonable number to start a new category. I should have thought to remove the supercats, but there already looked to be supercategory use. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:24, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Well, there's a range of uncertainty: there are enough Crinum species to eventually fill up a category, so I left this categorization but removed the subfamily one. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:36, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Hello

Hi 119.225.34.242 (talk) 05:08, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

This was supposed to be an IPv6 address on ipv6 day, but Wikipedia would not resolve. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:46, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Mwhahahaha

See my userpage and this. Mwhahahaha. :) Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 09:05, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I also feel like stealing something off User:Graeme Bartlett/to do. :) Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 09:10, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

The evil laugh of a a Wikipedian with thousands of stubs under his belt. Well that is over one kilostub worth, you shot past me in the article creation stakes. Congratulations on the beetlemania output. If you pick off my todo list I expect at least a DYK quality though! Another place to check out is Wikipedia:Requested articles and also Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles. There should be plenty of extra value to our readers if you pick off some of these. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:27, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Heh, I've got "hundreds-of-thousands" in the line. If I do steal off your To Do list, I'll try and make it like CTBA, GA. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 09:31, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

CBTA, GA the way to go! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:15, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

How is The Wedding Dance, an article I saw a red link to and made? I think that it's OK. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 10:00, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Hey this is pretty good. A definite C class. ————— Is the painting on display? Can we get higher resolution extracts, such as the table with cloth, the bride, or the piper? There must be more to the story of discovery or provenance. What does it show about the painter? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:53, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Not sure if on display. Extracts Listed Here. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 11:16, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

That is a different painting. But that is the kind of thing I would like to see when you talk about it in the description, rather than me squinting at a thumbnail. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:56, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Stichting Oud Politieke Delinquenten

I wonder if you check the hook for Stichting Oud Politieke Delinquenten. I have made two more for this article. --George Ho (talk) 20:34, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

The creator wants a quadruple hook to be approved. So I wonder if you can review any further. --George Ho (talk) 00:16, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

You've got mail!

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Also, could I have another load of stuff to put on my watchlist? Regards, ⇒TAP 12:35, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

I noticed you granted User:Mishae AWB access

It may be necessary to reconsider that per Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive756#Personal attacks after warning by User:Mishae. Ryan Vesey Review me! 17:28, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Please don't listen to him. I just want to learn how to use it, if you will teach me I will be a good editor. O' and personal attack were not related to AWB, I wont write them there, I promise! Honestly!--Mishae (talk) 17:34, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

"Please don't listen to him" — WP:AGF? Regards, ⇒TAP 17:38, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Because Dennis said nothing gets revoked for now. Go back to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive756#Personal attacks after warning by User:Mishae. O' and user Thine Antique Pen shouldn't have been here to comment, the discussion is between us two, not you! And yes, I do assume good faith, (or trying at least), but I don't butt into other people conversations. If you want to comment go to the link that Ryan posted above.--Mishae (talk) 17:52, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

My response to this will be at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive756#Personal attacks after warning by User:Mishae. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:53, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Graeme, I've specifically disagreed with this comment and have temporarily revoked AWB. Whilst I'm not 100% happy with the way he's been using it, the bigger problem has been how he's handled feedback on his use of the tool. I'm going to be watching him carefully over the next month, and if he improves on how he handles feedback I will happily return AWB (or any other admin can). I hope this doesn't step on your toes too much. Cheers. Worm^TT(talk) 11:11, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	For letting me use AWB! VIVEK RAI :  Friend?  11:06, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Non-free content review

Hi Graeme. Thank you for closing Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Non-free content review. Would you provide an extended closing rationale: (i) a summary of the "mark as historical" position, (ii) a summary of the "keep/do not mark as historical position", and (iii) a summary of any other arguments (for example, the argument by Uzma Gamal). Would you then analyze which position received the most support and was best grounded in the policies, guidelines, and/or precedents?

Your close said "Keep but no longer use". Does that mean the consensus was to "mark as historical", as requested by the nominator? If yes, please explicitly say so and tag Wikipedia:Non-free content review with {{historical}}. Thanks! Cunard (talk) 18:04, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the extended closing rationale. Would you provide clarification at the MfD about what "Keep but no longer use" means? Please explicitly state that it means or doesn't mean "mark as {{historical}}" to avoid confusion in the future. Cunard (talk) 18:15, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

AWB

Hello Graeme,

You may be right that I am still learning what to do here, but the "mass taggings for deletion" were completely justified. I was tagging List of MeSH codes and all of its 100-ish subpages for deletion. They were subpages, not just random pages. Also, I am unsure what you mean by "unneeded article tagging", so if you could elaborate that would be greatly appreciated. I also haven't had a complaint for 2 months (that's half the time I've been editing Wikipedia), since then I have figured out what to do and what not to do.

Thanks, Athleek123 19:20, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Still need reviews for the Wikipedia Education Program research project

Hey, Graeme! If you have some time to review the quality of some articles, we're using the results for a really important research project that will help shape the future of the US/Canada Education Program. For a few projects, we're on a pretty tight timeline and are really eager to have many more of these articles reviewed over the next week. However, we think it's most useful to come from experienced Wikipedia editors.

I have gone through each class to prioritize for various projects, and everyone on the Education team at the Wikimedia Foundation would be extremely grateful if you could participate by reviewing a few articles ('pre' and 'post' versions). If we can rally a lot of editors to review one or two articles each day, we will be able to make the most use of this research for our tight timeline. As many of our Ambassadors have requested it, we are really eager to find out which classes have been successful according to the Wikipedian standard.

If you can spare some time, please check out these priority articles and give it a go. Even 1 or 2 a day would help immensely! JMathewson (WMF) (talk) 02:17, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much for all of your reviews; we're so much closer to the finish line now. I really appreciate the great help! JMathewson (WMF) (talk) 07:09, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Your image at Australian Christian Lobby

Apologies if you already noticed, but an editor who has a reputation for removing anything he does not like from wikipedia has deleted the image you added to the article Australian Christian Lobby. See here: [1]. I would of reverted his removal as his explanation is not good enough in my opinion but I am constantly in an edit war with this person over one thing or another and if I replace it he will most likely just keep reverting my edit as he tends to not listen to anything I say. Have a nice day. Freikorp (talk) 10:06, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the alert, it is not a great photo, being over exposed, and nearly 4 years old, but in my opinion it does add to the article. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 13:25, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

You are welcome. Feel free to have a look at the articles content, and join in discussions on the talk page. It would be nice to have another editor working on the page. It's no secret that I do not like the ACL and that the editor who removed your picture does, but I do try to be neutral about my edits and I have a hard time trying to reason with the other editor. I'd appreciate some new input from other editors, even if they intend on make the ACL look more favourable in the article, as long as it complies with wiki's guidelines and does not give any one section undue weight I do not mind what gets added to the article. Freikorp (talk) 14:33, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Your support for User:Skyring

Hi Graeme Bartlett - in regards to your support for a clear policy violator in regards to their content additions regarding living people - that is disappointing indeed in an Administrator - and moving forward, for your support of such a violator and his policy violating contributions, you have lost my trust completely. Youreallycan

Question regarding FLYHT Aerospace Solutions Ltd.

I'm not sure how you disagree with the spam assessment here? Three other sysops (Ironholds, Bushranger (who tagged the restored article for G11) and myself (who was about to agree with Bushranger's assessment and delete before seeing your undeletion) disagreed. I'm unsure how the following isn't blatant promotion?

• "FLYHT’s patented Automated Flight Information Reporting System (“AFIRS”) operates on multiple aircraft types and provides functions such as global voice and text messaging, data collection and transmission, ACARS over Iridium, data on demand anywhere, anytime. AFIRS sends that information to its companion, UpTime, the ground service product, which stores and transfers the data to the customer in real time. Aircraft operators can use this information to increase safety, improve service, and enhance profitability."
• "FLYHT has demonstrated that live flight data can be streamed from an aircraft in real time. If an airplane encounters an emergency, FLYHT’s proven technology, FLYHTStream, can be automatically triggered to stream vital data that is normally secured in the black box, and provide position information to designated sites on the ground in real time. This technology opens new doors for increased safety and data analysis capabilities in the aerospace industry."
• The entire "Technology" section...

And on from there. I don't wheel war, and so I won't unilaterally reverse your action, but I'm really curious as to why you disagreed with the assessment that it's pure spam. I'd also noticed that they admitted on the talk page it's a company rep flogging it. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 04:53, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Its prupose may be promotional, but it can be edited down to remove the promotion. It is not pure spam. Graeme Bartlett (talk)

I have cut it back somewhat. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:19, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

WP:REFUND#File:Subway restaurant.svg

File:Subway restaurant.svg (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Um... I'm not that skilled to understand and to view SVG. What can I do to paste it into Commons? --George Ho (talk) 04:57, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Open up a text editor like Notepad or vim. Past in the text starting from the first xml tag but excluding all the email personal message. Save it as a file title ending in .svg then double click it to test it out on your browser to see if there are problems. If it works then upload to commons. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:59, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Editor Review

See comments at WP:Editor review/Thine Antique Pen. Regards, ⇒TAP 09:26, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

• Forgot to add, sorry — you've got mail! ⇒TAP 09:31, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

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Canberra meet up?

Would you be interested in another Canberra? If yes, is there a date and/or a venue you would prefer? --LauraHale (talk) 06:16, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

If you want to learn about Wikinews, that is mostly what it is. :) Otherwise, not a real meet up. I was thinking maybe here on a Saturday around 3pm? But I have no idea if people could get there or how crowded it would be. --LauraHale (talk) 06:48, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Figured the lunch time thing. 3:30pm might be okay? The place closes at 5pm, so cutting it close to put it back further. Was thinking two or three weeks from now?

I've not been paying much attention to the Paralympic athletics field events. No idea who is in. : / Any pictures that you may have would probably still be useful.--LauraHale (talk) 06:59, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

A Barnstar For You

		The PRC Barnstar
		For your very helpful participation in the Winter 2012 Nanjing Normal University Class Project, I hereby present to you this lovely Barnstar. You were a huge help and made great edits. On behalf of all of the students and Josh the instructor, thank you very, very much. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:09, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
		this WikiAward was given to Graeme Bartlett by Anna Frodesiak (talk) on 07:09, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Regarding SOTO&TORRES

I noticed you recreated this article as a userspace draft. I have concerns about this, due to an issue I previously raised, as the editor has a personal connection to the company. I know it's early days, but I don't think the edits thus far suggest that the article will be anything other than a promotional piece. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 11:12, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

There was already another userspace draft there so I suspect the restore will make no difference. I have it on my watchlist. I restored it as the request had been ignored for a few days, no one wanted to decline it. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:14, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Fair play. I note the proposed article has since been declined at AFC so that might be the end of it, although I'll keep the target article on my watchlist. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 23:19, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Non-free content review 2

Hi Graeme. Would you take a look at my request above regarding Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Non-free content review? Thank you, Cunard (talk) 18:24, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Markarian 501

Sorry for the edit on Markarian 501. kms usually means kilometers but in this case it's kilometers per second. I've corrected the units to km/s. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 22:22, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

No problems! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:13, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Speedy delete

I'm not impressed by this edit summary. It is not "over my head"; this is supposed to be an encyclopaedia readable by everyone, and so the context should be easily apparent to the layman. Basalisk ^{inspect damage}⁄_berate 11:07, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Graeme Bartlett. You have new messages at Template:Did you know nominations/Tomy Drissi.
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Brunei women's national football team

Thanks, but I'm not sure that merely doing a history merge should entitle me to DYK credit! All the credit for the hard work should properly go to LauraHale. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 03:52, 23 June 2012 (UTC).

Talk:Cần Thơ/Archive 1

Hi, sorry to bother you. I see that after this no consensus RM 7 August 2011 (UTC) you moved (presumably as an admin you were asked to move) several of the cities on 29 August 2011‎ Graeme Bartlett (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (5,287 bytes) (0)‎ . . (moved Yên Bái to Yen Bai: WP:NCGN recommends following the usage of Britannica, which does not use Vietnamese diacritics.) (undo) but WP:NCGN only says "A naming convention is under discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Vietnam." Is it here at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Vietnam/Naming convention debate July 2010? ...... sorry to make you delve into ancient history, but a couple of cities have only been moved in the last 2 days Cà Mau → Ca Mau and wondering where the guideline actually is? In ictu oculi (talk) 13:36, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

You look to be right that the debate has not really come to a conclusion. My moves are actually based on a simpler criterion, that some one asked for it with the reason given, and it looked reasonable to do so. It does not prevent the move being undone. Over the last year I have only seen requests to remove diacritics. If you are interested in particular articles, I can look up who asked for the move for you. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:25, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

That's okay, I think I can probably guess who asked for it. I'll leave it for the time being, the vast majority, 100s if not 1000s, of Vietnam place name stubs are still at local spelling, if someone desperately wants to simplify the major cities it isn't the end of the world. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:07, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi, sorry to revisit this. Something else has come up which is making me scratch my head. Are you still willing to go back to 28 August 2011 and find out who put this uncontroversial move request in? (I wonder was it a G6, otherwise it could have simply been moved?) Thanks. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:08, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

It was user:Kauffner with reasons like "Cao Lãnh|WP:NCGN recommends following usage of Britanica, Columbia, which spell Vietnamese names without diacritics. This form from the [http://en.vietnamplus.vn/Home/Mekong-Delta-ideal-location-for-waterway-traffic-development/20117/1" "WP:NCGN recommends following usage of Britanica, Columbia, which spell Vietnamese names without diacritics." You are free to request moves back. My move log says this:

11:45, 29 August 2011 Graeme Bartlett (talk | contribs | block) moved page Talk:Cao Lãnh to Talk:Cao Lanh (WP:NCGN recommends following usage of Britanica, Columbia, which spell Vietnamese names without diacritics. This form from the [http://en.vietnamplus.vn/Home/Mekong-Delta-ideal-location-for-waterway-traffic-development/20117/19500.vnplus Vietnam News ) (revert)
11:45, 29 August 2011 Graeme Bartlett (talk | contribs | block) moved page Cao Lãnh to Cao Lanh (WP:NCGN recommends following usage of Britanica, Columbia, which spell Vietnamese names without diacritics. This form from the [http://en.vietnamplus.vn/Home/Mekong-Delta-ideal-location-for-waterway-traffic-development/20117/19500.vnplus Vietnam News ) (revert)
11:44, 29 August 2011 Graeme Bartlett (talk | contribs | block) moved page Talk:Bạc Liêu to Talk:Bac Lieu (WP:NCGN recommends following usage of Britanica, Columbia, which spell Vietnamese names without diacritics.) (revert)
11:44, 29 August 2011 Graeme Bartlett (talk | contribs | block) moved page Bạc Liêu to Bac Lieu (WP:NCGN recommends following usage of Britanica, Columbia, which spell Vietnamese names without diacritics.) (revert)
11:42, 29 August 2011 Graeme Bartlett (talk | contribs | block) moved page Talk:Vũng Tàu to Talk:Vung Tau (WP:NCGN recommends following usage of Britanica, Columbia. Both use this form of the name.) (revert)
11:42, 29 August 2011 Graeme Bartlett (talk | contribs | block) moved page Vũng Tàu to Vung Tau (WP:NCGN recommends following usage of Britanica, Columbia. Both use this form of the name.) (revert)
10:17, 29 August 2011 Graeme Bartlett (talk | contribs | block) moved page Talk:Nam Định to Talk:Nam Dinh over redirect (WP:NCGN recommends following the usage of Britannica, which does not use Vietnamese diacritics.)
10:17, 29 August 2011 Graeme Bartlett (talk | contribs | block) moved page Nam Định to Nam Dinh (WP:NCGN recommends following the usage of Britannica, which does not use Vietnamese diacritics.) (revert)
10:16, 29 August 2011 Graeme Bartlett (talk | contribs | block) moved page Phan Thiết to Phan Thiet (WP:NCGN recommends following the usage of Britannica, which does not use Vietnamese diacritics.) (revert)
10:02, 29 August 2011 Graeme Bartlett (talk | contribs | block) moved page Talk:Yên Bái to Talk:Yen Bai over redirect (WP:NCGN recommends following the usage of Britannica, which does not use Vietnamese diacritics.)
10:02, 29 August 2011 Graeme Bartlett (talk | contribs | block) moved page Yên Bái to Yen Bai (WP:NCGN recommends following the usage of Britannica, which does not use Vietnamese diacritics.) (revert)
10:02, 29 August 2011 Graeme Bartlett (talk | contribs | block) moved page Talk:Yên Bái Province to Talk:Yen Bai province (WP:NCGN recommends following the usage of Britannica, which does not use diacritics in this name.) (revert)
10:02, 29 August 2011 Graeme Bartlett (talk | contribs | block) moved page Yên Bái Province to Yen Bai province (WP:NCGN recommends following the usage of Britannica, which does not use diacritics in this name.) (revert)

Thanks, I didn't want to jump to conclusions but the request was then from the initiator of the failed RM. I don't need you to revert them, these are only 8 of 950 undiscussed moves, plus who knows how many proxy moves by G6 and admin request. A sensible naming policy needs to be established by consensus among the article creators (although unfortunately a lot of the WP:VIETNAM article providers seem to have retreated recently) what concerned me was that you, the admin, weren't told about the RM.

But that was before. What concerns me since about 20 minutes ago is the discovery that immediately before approaching you the bot link to the failed RM was edited out of Talk so that you wouldn't see it when you moved them. In other words the admin performing the G6 couldn't see any reference to the previous RM even if looking on Talk, because it had been erased. It isn't just you either. I see the same thing was also done to admin Edgar181 for other G6 moves: [Thái Nguyên 27 August and Thanh Hóa 27 August. Have you ever seen anything like this before? I haven't. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:36, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

For better or worse, I can't say the above to you - now that you have confirmed it was Kauffner - and not notify him User Talk:Kauffner. Before Kauffner tells you let me own up I am since 13 March 2012 a diehard fan of WP:FRMOS and of extending the way we treat French living people on en.wp to Serb tennis players, Cuban paralympians, and so on (I also eat babies). Although those RMs and associated moves are now complete, amazingly - it's now getting very difficult scraping around the barrel to find any Europeans with "English names" left Talk:Toni Androic seems to be all but the last one. About Vietnamese I am not convinced of the value of diacritics or that Vietnamese people/towns should be treated the same as European Latin-alphabet names, outside category:Vietnamese words and phrases obviously. My concern about these moves, and the 100s of others, relates to process and the Users who actually created the articles not having regular opportunity to have a say in moving them. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:01, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

I was wondering where I could request that No Gun Ri Massacre be moved back to No Gun Ri (Talk:No_Gun_Ri_Massacre/Archive_1#Requested_move), that Nico Hülkenberg be moved back to Nico Hulkenberg,[2] and that Édouard Hambye be move back to Edouard René Hambye?[3] Moving geography articles to Vietnamese spellings cannot be justified in terms of the any of the criteria suggested in WP:NCGN (Britannica, Columbia, Encarta, major media, etc. etc.) Most of editors involved in the current Vietnamese naming RfC do not appear to want these moves reverted. Kauffner (talk) 06:57, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Since there is a disagreement of opinion I think that we need a proper Requests for comment with input from a variety of people. This choice of name for Vietnamese names seems to not be completely straight forward and is not uncontroversial. For individual pages you can do a discussion on the talk page, and for an article with or without massacre, that is probably the say to go. My talk page is not really the way to do this. I have never set up RFC's only closed them, so I will ahve a look for where to have this discussion. WT:Title will be my first idea. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:50, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Graeme, I would suspect actually that the place Kauffner has opened his RfC Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Vietnamese) is actually the right place. It is just that inviting only selected editors who have agreed with him in the past and not those, for example in the RM on the towns he asked you to move removes any credibility/use of the RfC before it starts. As I say I haven't made up my own mind anyway. But that here now isn't the issue, if you are completely happy with the way you were requested to make the moves contrary to the RM result, and if you don't mind that the Talk links to the RM result were deleted prior to asking you, then there's no need for further action. But I would request that you restore all articles which you have unknowingly moved contrary to RM results - as far as you're aware of them, which I realise you can't be in all cases. Cheers. I'm going offline for a few hours. Take care and thanks for your time. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:10, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

You are right that would be the best page for it. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:14, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

The issue of the Vietnamese page moves has already been before ANI. It was referred to the RfC mentioned above. For the each of three non-Vietnamese articles I mentioned, an RM was closed. Then someone made a unilateral move another location. Kauffner (talk) 12:47, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Kauffner, I thought we were done here, but if you are going to add more be sure it is correct. As you well know the item before ANI today was another issue brought by Karl B (your 950x moves and editing redirects) which has nothing to do with this issue here (erasing bot-notes of failed RM before approaching an admin for uncontroversial G6). I doubt either Karl B or the admin at ANI have any idea about the RM-bot delete or G6 issue, otherwise Karl B would have mentioned that at ANI. If you want ANI reopened and this issue added then that can be arranged, but I think it is Graeme's decision since Graeme was the one the removal of evidence of the previous RM was intended for, no one else.In ictu oculi (talk) 13:31, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Graeme, can I ask a technical question - when you get a request like this, does it come through some random funnel and any of a dozen G6-handling admins receive it or does the person submitting the G6 select the admin? Trying to understand. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:31, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Wow. This takes the cake. I've notified Malik_Shabazz, who also handles a lot of moves, to weigh in here on appropriate next steps. IIO is correct, I was not aware of this latest trickiness by Kauffner. And Kauffner, as for the other post-RM moves, I don't know what those have to do with your behavior in this instance.For Édouard Hambye, everyone who voted in the RM suggested that title as the correct title, so there was clear consensus for the move. Anywa, I do hope Graeme will consider an appropriate response; misrepresenting consensus like this when requesting a speedy move is unbecoming a wikipedia editor.--KarlB (talk) 17:16, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

I have to say, this doesn't look good. It's shenanigans like these that have exhausted my good faith with respect to these moves, which is why I won't make them any more. I'm glad you're having a discussion about adopting a naming convention. You might also want to start a WP:RfC/U to discuss Kauffner's behavior. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 17:33, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Graeme, FYI only, a related issue to deleting Talk page RM notices before requesting G6 "uncontroversial moves" has arisen at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kauffner. Two of the cities among Can Tho RM had RMs made less visible by IP part of the cluster of IPs listed there. Whether to restore or not the RM result is still your decision. Cheers In ictu oculi (talk) 02:54, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry - Technical question - why is there no trace of the User requesting the moves you list above in the User's edit history? 27 August 2011 clearly shows the edits removing evidence of the "no consensus" RMs, but where is the request which you acted on? Am I missing it because I have no idea what it looks like, or is there a separate list of dbmove or G6 requests somewhere? In ictu oculi (talk) 10:33, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

The requested moves are done on the redirect, which is deleted as a result of the move. You will have to look at the deleted contributions. I will extract a list of these, as a G6 delete is not sensitive and supposed to be non controversial. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:37, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

07:38, 20 August 2011  Huong Thuy ({{db-move|Nguyen Thi Huong Thuy|Googling suggests that the singer is vastly better known than the district.}})
05:29, 20 August 2011  Toc Tien ({{db-move|Nguyen Khoa Toc Tien|If you Google "Toc Tien", all the top results are about the singer. I don't anything about the village.}})
04:09, 20 August 2011  My Linh ({{db-move|Do My Linh|There is documentation that this is the common use form of her name at Talk:Do_My_Linh#Move_to_My_Linh.}})
13:27, 18 August 2011  Hoang Co Minh ({{db-move|Hoàng Cơ Minh|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
21:03, 16 August 2011  Hoang Hai ({{db-move|[Nguyen Hoang Hai|Move subject to stage name.}})
20:54, 16 August 2011  My Linh ({{db-move|Do My Linh|Move subject to common form of her name.}})
20:52, 16 August 2011  Phuong Vy ({{db-move|Nguyen Ngoc Phuong Vy|Move subject to common form of her name.}})
20:49, 16 August 2011  My Tam ({{db-move|Phan Thi My Tam|Move subject to common form of her name.}})
20:46, 16 August 2011  Hong Nhung ({{db-move|Le Hong Nhung|Move subject to common form of her name.}})
20:38, 16 August 2011  Nhu Quynh ({{db-move|Như Quỳnh (singer)|No need for a DAB that has only one valid entry. Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
16:48, 16 August 2011  Luong Bich Huu ({{db-move|Lương Bích Hữu|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
16:45, 16 August 2011  Doan Trang ({{db-move|Đoan Trang|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
14:48, 16 August 2011  Dam Vinh Hung ({{db-move|Đàm Vĩnh Hưng|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
14:35, 16 August 2011  Nguyen Huu Canh ({{db-move|Nguyễn Hữu Cảnh|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
14:32, 16 August 2011  Duong Van An ({{db-move|Dương Văn An|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
04:14, 14 August 2011  Van Hanh ({{db-move|Vạn Hạnh|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
03:16, 14 August 2011  Pham Hoang (oops, {{DEFAULTSORT:Pham Hoang}})
09:13, 13 August 2011  Phan Thi Kim Phuc ({{db-move|Phan Thị Kim Phúc|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
08:41, 13 August 2011  Hong Bang dynasty ({{db-move|Hồng Bàng Dynasty|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
06:21, 13 August 2011  Minh Van Dang (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Minh Van Dang)
04:16, 13 August 2011  Nguyen Tien Trung ({{db-move|Nguyễn Tiến Trung|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
04:00, 13 August 2011  Cu Huy Ha Vu ({{db-move|Cù Huy Hà Vũ|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
03:39, 13 August 2011  Ton That Dinh (mandarin) ({db-move|Tôn Thất Đính (mandarin)|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
03:17, 13 August 2011  Nguyen Tien Minh ({{db-move|Nguyễn Tiến Minh|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
03:14, 13 August 2011  Tran Trieu Quan ({{db-move|Trần Triệu Quân|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
02:51, 13 August 2011  Nguyen Dinh ({{db-move|Nguyen Đinh|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
07:50, 12 August 2011  Hoc Phi ({{db-move|Học phi|Her name given in this form in the standard history by Oscar Chapuis. Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
07:43, 12 August 2011  Tra Giang ({{db-move|Trà Giang|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
07:23, 12 August 2011  Khuc Hao ({{db-move|Khúc Hạo|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
07:22, 12 August 2011  Khuc Hao
07:21, 12 August 2011  Kieu Cong Tien ({{db-move|Kiều Công Tiễn|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
18:29, 11 August 2011  Dong Sy Nguyen ({{db-move|Đồng Sỹ Nguyên|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
17:02, 11 August 2011  Nguyen Ngoc Loan ({{db-move|Nguyễn Ngọc Loan|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
16:44, 11 August 2011  Nguyen Van Hieu ({{db-move|Nguyễn Văn Hiếu|This is the only person on the DAB commonly referred to as " Nguyen Van Hieu"}})
16:34, 11 August 2011  Le Van Khoi ({{db-move|Lê Văn Khôi|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
15:45, 11 August 2011  Trinh Tung ({{db-move|Trịnh Tùng|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
15:43, 11 August 2011  Trinh Trang ({{db-move|Trịnh Tráng|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
15:41, 11 August 2011  Trinh Cuong ({{db-move|Trịnh Cương|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
15:39, 11 August 2011  Trinh Can ({{db-move|Trịnh Căn|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
15:38, 11 August 2011  Trinh Sam ({{db-move|Trịnh Sâm| Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
15:22, 11 August 2011  Tran Nu Yen Khe ({{db-move|Trần Nữ Yên Khê| Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
15:20, 11 August 2011  Luu Huynh ({{db-move|Lưu Huỳnh|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
15:18, 11 August 2011  Tran Van Khac ({{db-move|Trần Văn Khắc| Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
15:16, 11 August 2011  Nguyen Manh Tuong ({{db-move|Nguyễn Mạnh Tường| Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
11:52, 11 August 2011  Vu Ngoc Dinh ({{db-move|Vũ Ngọc Đỉnh|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use of them in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
11:50, 11 August 2011  Nguyen Ngoc Do ({{db-move|Nguyễn Ngọc Độ|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use of them in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
11:48, 11 August 2011  Pham Thanh Ngan ({{db-move|Phạm Thanh Ngân|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use of them in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
11:46, 11 August 2011  Nguyen Van Coc ({{db-move|Nguyễn Văn Cốc|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use of them in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
11:43, 11 August 2011  Nguyen Duc Soat ({{db-move|Nguyễn Đức Soát|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use of them in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
11:39, 11 August 2011  Nguyen Dang Kinh ({{db-move|Nguyễn Đăng Kỉnh|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use of them in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
11:37, 11 August 2011  Nguyen Van Nghia ({{db-move|Nguyễn Văn Nghĩa|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use of them in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
11:34, 11 August 2011  Nguyen Tien Sam ({{db-move|Nguyễn Tiến Sâm|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use of them in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
11:31, 11 August 2011  Le Thanh Dao ({{db-move|Lê Thanh Đạo|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use of them in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.}})
08:49, 11 August 2011  Trinh Kiem ({{db-move|Trịnh Kiểm|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau}})
07:13, 11 August 2011  Thai Nguyen uprising ({{db-move|Thái Nguyên uprising|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau}})
06:04, 11 August 2011  Nguyen Thai Hoc ({{db-move|Nguyễn Thái Học|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau}})
05:15, 11 August 2011  Bao Vang ({{db-move|Bảo Vang|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau}})
05:13, 11 August 2011  Huynh Sanh Thong ({{db-move|Huỳnh Sanh Thông|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau}})
05:11, 11 August 2011  Nguyen Thuyen ({db-move|Nguyễn Thuyên|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau}})
03:53, 11 August 2011  Vo Tanh ({{db-move|Võ Tánh|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau}})
03:48, 11 August 2011  Phu Xuan ({{db-move|Phú Xuân|Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau})
03:42, 11 August 2011  Nguyen Phuc Tran ({{db-move|Nguyễn Phúc Trăn|Drop Vietnamese diacritics to follow standard published English-language usage in Britannica and elsewhere, common Wiki practice. See discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau}})
03:39, 11 August 2011  Nguyen Phuc Thuan ({{db-move|Nguyễn Phúc Thuần|Drop Vietnamese diacritics to follow standard published English-language usage in Britannica and elsewhere, common Wiki practice. See discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau}})
03:37, 11 August 2011  Nguyen Phuc Tan ({{db-move|Nguyễn Phúc Tần|Drop Vietnamese diacritics to follow standard published English-language usage in Britannica and elsewhere, common Wiki practice. See discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau}})
03:34, 11 August 2011  Nguyen Phuc Nguyen ({{db-move|Nguyễn Phúc Nguyên|Drop Vietnamese diacritics to follow standard published English-language usage in Britannica and elsewhere, common Wiki practice. See discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau}})
03:28, 11 August 2011  Nguyen Phuc Lan ({{db-move|Nguyễn Phúc Lan|Drop Vietnamese diacritics to follow standard published English-language usage in Britannica and elsewhere, common Wiki practice. See discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau}})
03:23, 11 August 2011  Nguyen Kim ({{db-move|Nguyễn Kim|Drop Vietnamese diacritics to follow standard published English-language usage in Britannica and elsewhere, common Wiki practice. See discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau}})
03:19, 11 August 2011  Nguyen Phuc Khoat ({{db-move|Nguyễn Phúc Khoát|Drop Vietnamese diacritics to follow standard published English-language usage in Britannica and elsewhere, common Wiki practice. See discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau}})
03:17, 11 August 2011  Nguyen Hoang ({{db-move|[Nguyễn Hoàng|Drop Vietnamese diacritics to follow standard published English-language usage, common Wiki practice. See discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau}})
02:48, 11 August 2011  Nguyen Thi Anh ({{db-move|Nguyễn Thị Anh|Drop Vietnamese diacritics to follow standard published English-language usage, common Wiki practice. See discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau}})
16:26, 10 August 2011  Quoc Thien ({{db-move|Quốc Thiên|Remove Vietnamese diacritics to correspond to standard of published English. See discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau}})
16:03, 10 August 2011  Nguyen Thuy Lam ({{db-move|Nguyễn Thùy Lâm|Removing Vietnamese diacritics per the sources given the article. This is also, standard of English language publishing, see discussion at Talk: Ngo Bao Chau}})
15:54, 10 August 2011  Vo Hoang Yen ({{db-move|Võ Hoàng Yến|Removing Vietnamese diacritics per the sources given the article. This is also, standard of English language publishing, see discussion at Talk: Ngo Bao Chau}})
15:51, 10 August 2011  Pham Thu Hang ({{db-move|Phạm Thu Hằng|Removing Vietnamese diacritics per the sources given the article. This is also, standard of English language publishing, see discussion at Talk: Ngo Bao Chau}})
15:48, 10 August 2011  Ngo Phuong Lan ({{db-move|Ngô Phương Lan|Removing Vietnamese diacritics per the sources given the article. This is also, standard of English language publishing, see discussion at Talk: Ngo Bao Chau}})
15:33, 10 August 2011  Bui Dinh Dinh ({{db-move|Bùi Đình Dĩnh|Removing Vietnamese diacritics per Britannica, standard of English language publishing, discussion at Talk: Ngo Bao Chau}})
15:26, 10 August 2011  Dang Van Ngu ({{db-move|Đặng Văn Ngữ|Removing Vietnamese diacritics per sources given the article. This is alsot the standard of English-language publishing, see discussion at Talk: Ngo Bao Chau}})
15:23, 10 August 2011  Le Luong Minh ({{db-move|Lê Lương Minh|Removing Vietnamese diacritics per the sources given the article. This is also, standard of English language publishing, see discussion at Talk: Ngo Bao Chau}})
15:04, 10 August 2011  Ngo Si Lien ({{db-move|Ngô Sĩ Liên|Removing Vietnamese diacritics per Britannica, standard of English language publishing, discussion at Talk: Ngo Bao Chau}})
14:44, 10 August 2011  Pham Hoang ({{DEFAULTSORT:Hoang, Pham}})
12:51, 10 August 2011  Le Van Thinh ({{db-move|Lê Văn Thịnh|Removing Vietnamese diacritics per Britannica, standard of English language publishing, discussion at Talk: Ngo Bao Chau}})
12:49, 10 August 2011  To Hien Thanh ({{db-move|Tô Hiến Thành|Removing Vietnamese diacritics per Britannica, standard of English language publishing, discussion at Talk: Ngo Bao Chau}})
12:46, 10 August 2011  Ly Dao Thanh ({{db-move|Lý Đạo Thành|Removing Vietnamese diacritics per Britanica, standard of English language publishing, discussion at Talk: Ngo Bao Chau}})
12:37, 10 August 2011  Duong Van Nga ({{db-move|Dương Vân Nga|removing diacritics and unnecessary disambiguation, per discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau}})
12:32, 10 August 2011  Le Trung Tong ({{db-move|Lê Trung Tông (Early Lê)|removing diacritics and unnecessary disambiguation, per discussion at Talk:Ngo Bau Chau}})
04:05, 10 August 2011  Pham Minh Man ({{db-move|Jean-Baptiste Phạm Minh Mẫn|Move to standard Vietnamese name format, used by BBC, Associated Press, etc}})

Okay, so the above represents a complete list of the Users' G6 requests for 10 days 10-20 August (prior to the 27 August RM evidence removal and your 29 August actioning). I see the G6 works pretty quickly:

11:48, 11 August 2011 Pham Thanh Ngan request

13:10, 11 August 2011‎ Sphilbrick (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (1,575 bytes) (0)‎ . . (moved Phạm Thanh Ngân to Pham Thanh Ngan: Drop Vietnamese diacritics as there is virtually no use of them in published English. See Britannica, discussion at Talk:Ngo Bao Chau.) (undo)

I'd seen the name Sphilbrick all over Vietnam articles making dozens of controversial moves and was wondering who he was, I suppose I should have realised he was just another admin acting in good faith. Duh. The full list of dbmoves is evidently going to be as long or longer than the 950 undiscussed moves under User's name. Many thanks for answering the question. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:22, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

I was going to post the complete list of db-move, but I could not filter unicode correctly and produce a readable result. There were 626 db-moves from this user's 1000 last deleted contributions. Tell me if you want a more complete date range! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:27, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. The way things are going I think someone will want one at some point, but there's no urgency - I assume that the SPI needs to go ahead first now that it has been opened. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:36, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Regular please!

Please send me a batch of unwatched pages. Thanks Graeme! ⇒TAP 21:27, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

On its way. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:39, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Replied, please reply back. ⇒TAP 21:44, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

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Request for copy of deleted article "List of open source computer hardware suppliers"

Hello. I read your answer at the undeletion requests page. I have activated my e-mail account in My preferences. What is the next step I have to take in order to receive a copy of the deleted article "List of open source computer hardware suppliers"? Please guide me through this... --Vomv1988 (talk) 04:11, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

The Churchill Hotel

Following your de-Prod edit comment last night, I opened a topic on Notability under Talk:The Churchill Hotel. AllyD (talk) 08:09, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

• I must say, content was removed before the PROD, some reliable sources. ⇒TAP 08:16, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

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Oops

thanks :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 06:35, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Maritime domain awareness

I've searched the page history high and low for the removal of the prod notice that would constitute a contested prod, but cannot find it. Would you please point me to it?- the page history I see says me prodding it, then you undeleting it, sequentially. Buckshot06 (talk) 04:07, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

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AWB refusal

Hi there, May I ask how you think I can gain use of this tool (ie. what more I have to contribute to the encyclopedia)? Mdann52 (talk) 12:58, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Higgs Boson Lock

Disagree with locking the Higgs Boson page. You are missing out on people who actually know something about the topic from being able to edit that aren't necessarily regular editors on Wikipedia. Makes Wikipedia feel like a members only club. Please unlock. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumostorm (talk • contribs) 00:16, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Alexander Joseph

Have you noticed that this has been restored? None of the AfD concerns have been met. Dougweller (talk) 09:15, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

OK, Deleted as well as restoration declined! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:28, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. The IP, 117.207.238.60 (talk · contribs) is pretty clearly the person who restored the article, Hotinlava (talk · contribs) who created it in the first place. Hotinlava has used IPs before to edit. Dougweller (talk) 09:31, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Credo Reference Update & Survey (your opinion requested)

Credo Reference, who generously donated 400 free Credo 250 research accounts to Wikipedia editors over the past two years, has offered to expand the program to include 100 additional reference resources. Credo wants Wikipedia editors to select which resources they want most. So, we put together a quick survey to do that:

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Contributions to Geology

Just wanted to say thank you for your contributions to many geology related pages. Yendor of yinn (talk) 10:05, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

AWB permission

Hi Graeme, regarding AWB permission for my account. Whilst around half of my edits are automated, I still have more than the 500 mainspace edits even you only count half of my 2500 edits to mainspace. Is there anything extra I need to do to get permission to use AWB? Regards, Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 10:46, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

File Mover permission

Hi Graeme, don't know if you remember me but you turned me down for the File Mover permission about a month ago for lack of experience. I had around 10 uploads at the time, now 16 and was mainly pointing out this file: Birmingham Gay Village Bull Artwork.jpg (i've took out "File:" - i'm sure you already know that. basically i named this wrong accidentally of course (i could have rigged up a coincidence a month ago if i tried) and this should be Birmingham Gay Village Rhinoceros Artwork.jpg. I've tagged it in accordance with policy for rename but wanted to point it out so you could double check. Thanks and have a nice day ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 09:44, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Well I think it is hardly worth renaming as most of the name is accurate, Bull is not exactly a misspelling for rhino! The kind of names we want to change are things like DSC30210832.JPG Ps if you want to link a file use : as in File:Birmingham Gay Village Bull Artwork.jpg Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:58, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Ahh, that's a nifty little trick. I hope the point of me showing that i know how to get a rename done wasn't lost on you though in this exercise? Thanks and have a nice day ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 10:35, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Another backlog declogging

Hello. Can you put a very long protection for Daigunder? It's the Indonesian misinformation vandal again, three times in the last two weeks. Thanks. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 23:27, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Semi protected 1 year. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:56, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Just so you know, as I had stated in my report to WP:RFPP, there were also two good samaritan IPs cleaning up the mess. One of them (63.243.182.25) is actually me using the computer at my workstation. I just don't want to log in while at work, but I couldn't resist. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 12:08, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Please comment on DYK prep area issue

Hi. As an active participant in DYK discussion, if you have a minute, can you drop by Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Number of Olympic hooks per day? and offer an opinion on how to address this? I'd rather get it dealt with sooner rather than later as I feel like the sheer volume will require a discussion as all people involved in building prep areas will need to be aware of whatever decision is reached. --LauraHale (talk) 21:27, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

National Youth Science Camp

Thanks for restoring the old version. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:04, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

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Also, another unwatched batch if you can! ⇒TAP 09:41, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Batch slipped out, you have to remind me more often! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:56, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Username

Hi Graeme, would you be able to answer a username question for me, or is it not your area? Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 12:40, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

You can always ask. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:42, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

What would you say to "Sarah SleepsWithSirens" as a username? Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 12:44, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Sounds pretty harmless. DO you think it is slandering someone called Sarah? If that is the case then WP:UFAA is the way to go. If yoiu want to choose it for yourself, I would suggest you don't. Sarah SleepsWithSirens (talk · contribs · count · logs · email) Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:49, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

No it's a request an account case, just wondering what an admin's opinion on it would be.

While I've got you, would you mind having a look at Judge Guthrie (including talk page) and the associated WP:RPP? Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 12:52, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Well the IP hopping vandal is blocked again. Since it seems to be one person blocking is possible, but if they keep hopping more we may really have to protect the article, despite what ItsZippy said and did. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:58, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Yeah it's starting to become quite amusing in a strange way. Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 13:01, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

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Batch

Could you send me another watchlist batch? Thanks! Thine Antique Pen 11:29, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

yes! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:34, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Replied. :D Thine Antique Pen 11:42, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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Dispute Resolution IRC office hours.

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