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Generative AI and Wikipedia research

Hi InvadingInvader,

My name is Dr. Tim Koskie and I am a researcher at the Centre for Media Transition (CMT) at the University of Technology Sydney (UTS). We are conducting a study on the implications of content-generating AI systems such as ChatGPT for knowledge integrity on Wikipedia, and are approaching you because you have participated in discussions on this topic on Wikimedia pages.

If you are interested, we would like to invite you to participate in our study. It would involve joining either a focus group discussion or an interview (around 1 hour), in person at Wikimania in Singapore if you are going to be there, or online at a future date. At these sessions we would ask you questions about how you think generative AI will impact Wikipedia, as well as about the kinds of work you do on Wikipedia.

The project is funded by the Wikimedia Research Fund grant programme. You can find out more about the project here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Implications_of_ChatGPT_for_knowledge_integrity_on_Wikipedia If you are interested, let me know and I will forward you some more detailed information on the project. Tbkoskie (talk) 04:09, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Sadly I do not think I will be able to participate due to scheduling constraints and time zone differences. I appreciate the thought though! InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 16:09, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Well, we appreciate your contributions to the discussion! The 12-hour time difference, give or take, is a potential issue for many. Thanks for responding and participating in the discussion. Tbkoskie (talk) 23:57, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

New pages patrol invitation

Hello, InvadingInvader. The new pages patrol team is currently struggling to keep up with the influx of new articles and redirects needing review. We could use a few extra hands to help. I believe that someone with your activity and experience is very likely to meet the guidelines for granting. Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time, but it requires a strong understanding of Wikipedia’s CSD policy and notability guidelines. Kindly read the tutorial before making your decision, and feel free to post on the project talk page with questions. If patrolling new pages is something you'd be willing to help out with, please consider applying here. Thank you for your consideration. We hope to see you around! Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 17:39, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

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Your closing of RfC at Amhara genocide

Hi. I see you closed the RfC. I think you made a tiny mistake when you updated your closing statement. You changed if from

There is a clear consensus that ethnic violence and massacres against the Amhara people are not to be stated as a genocide
— [1]

to

There is a clear consensus that ethnic violence and massacres against the Amhara people are not to be stated in wikivoice.
— [2]

I assume that you did not intend to remove the "as a genocide" when you added "in wikivoice"? -- Random person no 362478479 (talk) 17:16, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi there; yes I did not mean to. I can fix it. Sorry about the confusion! InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 17:17, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

No problem. -- Random person no 362478479 (talk) 17:18, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Closure on Vox (political party)

Can you elaborate your closure? Out of the three editors that are in favour of only keeping right-wing, only one presented evidence and factual claims. The second editor with anti-leftist bias presented their emotional commentary while the third claims that the party is "broadly right-wing" which is completely made up and not backed up by a single source. You should reconsider whether this RfC actually leans to only use right-wing in the infobox. Vacant0 (talk) 18:09, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Sure thing – let me read through it again so I can more formally address your concerns. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 18:40, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

@Vacant0 I might actually re-close it as No Consensus. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 18:41, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

You could re-read it if you want to, I'm not forcing your or anything. If you think that the RfC's outcome was different (no consensus), then it's up to you to change it, since you are the closer after all. This article is controversial so a more elaborate explanation would better suit the close. Vacant0 (talk) 18:46, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Understood. I think that I botched this the first time and it should be closed as a No Consensus, which should be online right now. Thanks for pointing out my mistake. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 18:49, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

No problem. Everyone makes mistakes sometimes so it's alright. Vacant0 (talk) 18:51, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Go woke, go broke for deletion

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WP:Administrator's noticeboard#WP:COMPETENCE, attempted WP:OWNERSHIP, and WP:GAMING of WP:CIVILITY policy to uphold corrosive edits from Ssilvers, also InvadingInvader and Nyxaros, one edit bordering on WP:VANDALISM

Just a notification that you are involved in a discussion on WP:Administrator's noticeboard. Feel free to defend yourself. :) User:HumanxAnthro (BanjoxKazooie) 21:43, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Trout delivered. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 03:03, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

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Please don't come to my talk page for further templating. If you'd like to CS-aware me, get someone else to do it. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 20:03, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Help:Buying Wikipedia

Over time I've been picking away at the gag you've helped establish (as in, making the steps as complicated as possible), which also involved detailing the background behind its establishment and the ongoing process to keep people from buying Wikipedia. Since your how to meet Jerry page I've built many page tangents, including Jerry's userpage and tallk, and some Jerry dialogue. Panini! • 🥪 20:11, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Nice ;) I've been watching it for a while InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 20:25, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

2022 in the U.S.

I saw your comment at the RfC about working on 2022 in the United States, but I didn't want to bring the discussion too far off topic.

Having tried both "find sources related to topics" and "use year in review sources", I've found that the latter really is easier and I think it makes a better end product. It might work even better with the U.S. because I'm finding that I (unsurprisingly) have to dodge a lot of U.S. specific sourcing. On 2001, for example, I used the Time Year in Review magazine, which was tremendously helpful, where half was U.S. and half was international. I tried to find the 2022 version, but I didn't see any digitized version. For reference, here is the 2019 edition. But that brings up a worry in that 2022 is going to be a difficult year to work with because it's so recent. With that said, there are still plenty of general summation of the year type sources.

Another helpful source is annual reports from research groups, NGOs, or intergovernmental organizations. Most fields are going to publish some sort of year in review. For example, I've used reports that detailed all of the world's major conflicts in the year, which was much easier than trying to sort through the conflicts one at a time (which also had an original research element to it). One thing to watch out for with this is that the reports are often named for the year they're published. A lot of reports about 2022 might be named "Report on Subject 2023". I'm still in the process of making these changes at 2001, but 2002 provides the skeleton of an article that only uses broader sources (I intend to flesh it out more once I'm satisfied with 2001).

At least, these are the things that worked for me. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 16:54, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

I would definitely concur with year in review sources, but I do think that given there is a much more localized focus on the US, there needs to be some relativity to the topic. This is where we can dive a bit more into the topic, though not too much since it's still a year article and not every argument that the pro choice and pro life sides. You are more than welcome to contribute, btw, and the offer is extended to all editors who wish to help on this daunting task.

If you'd like to know my roadmap so far for the article, I'd say this:

1. Politics. Scandals, elections, legislation. Maybe court cases; IDK whether to put the courts and notable decisions from them under politics or their owns section.

2. Sports. Team USA on the world stage, league and event championships, MVPs, notable injuries, and for this year definitely the collapse of the Pac-12.

3. Economy. Business mergers and acquisitions, inflation, economic policy, all the CNBC stuff.

4. Culture. Trends, religion, fashion, media and memes.

5. Disasters.

6. Technology.

7. Event list InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 17:05, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Looks like a good plan to me. One other worry is that in terms of pure wikitext size, 2022 in the United States is pretty huge already. If a large amount of content is going to be added, it might need a major trimming of minor events or those that had no effect outside of one state (I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with 2022 in California and 2022 in Texas). But again, I'm not trying to say what you "should" be doing. I'm just thinking about things that might come up. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 17:30, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Don't worry, I'm keeping an eye on it. Most of those single state events are mass shootings anyway. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 17:46, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

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@SunDawn Thanks! I personally feel it was a long-overdue article. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 16:59, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

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Deleting athlete articles

Hi, I noticed you nominated some athlete articles for deletion. Can you please nominate some of the athlete articles I've created (User:Lights and freedom/stubs) for deletion at AfD? I don't WANT them to be deleted, but they shouldn't be kept simply because nobody has noticed them. This will also help me to understand whether creating these is a good use of my time in the future. —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 07:41, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

I'd be happy to take a look. You are welcome to nominate your own articles for deletion if you feel that they do not meet the general notability guideline. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 19:14, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Little crowded with other Wiki stuff and IRL stuff at the moment, so it might be a bit before you get anything big from me, but I'll keep it on my to do list. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 19:14, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

@Lights and freedom, sometimes it takes several years or even decades for stub articles to be noticed and enriched. For example, see Samuel Nchinda-Kaya which was a one-sentence article from 2016 until a few weeks ago. Historical newspaper archival and indexing services are only getting better every year with new technology improvements. So I think that if there is a presumption that coverage exists based on performance or achievements of an athlete, even if that doesn't show up easy to find in a web search right now, it might be worth keeping the articles until they are contested. --Habst (talk) 02:30, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

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Please leave talk page messages relating to my Uncyclopedia activities over there, and not here please. Thanks! InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 03:36, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

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Gettysburg

Hello @InvadingInvader: - I liked your wording in your recent edit on Gettysburg. I think it would be great if someone would clean up Turning point of the American Civil War and link it as Further Information under the Historical assessment section. I had no idea that the Turning point article existed. Pinging @Donner60: as info. TwoScars (talk) 16:29, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

WP:YEARS

Hello @InvadingInvader: - I read your essay on inclusion criteria for WP:YEARS when reviewing the same on the 2023 & 2024. I noticed there were some links to a few community discussions relating to ownership of the page by a few users. I am concerned that this issue has arisen again on 2024, in part against the sudden influx of non-regular editors around the new year. I have tried to push-back against this, but have had limited success. I would be grateful if you could take a look at the situation.

You may also be interested to know that the user topic banned in the community discussions has returned as a sockpuppet. I have started a SPI and would be grateful for any suggestions from you. 33ABGirl (talk) 06:11, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

A WP:AN/I discussion has been initiated by an editor regarding this issue. I kindly request that you take a moment to review the discussion and contribute any comments or insights you may have. 33ABGirl (talk) 03:13, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Move warring

Though I predict it will be likely that NOYEAR is eventually applied, it is best to wait. [3] Then don't move it. This was an extraordinarily ill-considered thing to do, let alone twice. Do better, please. VQuakr (talk) 18:25, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

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Move

The recent changes you mad which is Tawagan Ng tanghalan (Season 6 semifinals and finals) has no , between the 6 and semifinals, I suggest moving it to the same pattern as the s3 did. I was quite mad at this mistake and sorry for that and thinking it was unintelligible. Zalahedrin (talk) 14:03, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

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