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Dudley Spurling

Nice work on this article. At first, I thought it was the good-old classic article-hijack! Always interesting to see a person I've created for one thing, but is better known for something else. Thanks! Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 11:10, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for creating it. Oddly, this was a result of the Paradise Papers leak as he was the senior partner at the predecessor firm to Appleby. I found a pdf book listing Bermudian politicians so maybe some of them will be swimmers too. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:16, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Bruce Gilley for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Bruce Gilley is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bruce Gilley until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. ansh666 17:59, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

DYK- Marcus Beck

@Philafrenzy: Hi, I seem to forgot how to do DYK in the right way. Please check 12 Nov DYK Marcus Beck Template:Did you know nominations/Marcus Beck. It doesn't look right. Also. This was a draft and moved to article on 12 Nov. Is that still ok? Whispyhistory (talk) 19:36, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Made some small changes. I added the picture from Commons which gives you a chance of the top slot with greater views. Also the hooks are too wordy, think more like news headline, pithy and tempting you to read more. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:56, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

I re-wrote the Alt, the first hook needs simplifying too. I will leave it to you. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:03, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Thx....will review Whispyhistory (talk) 05:45, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

@Philafrenzy: thoughts?? Marcus Beck skillfully added Joseph Lister’s controversial antisepsis theory into the main surgical textbook following the Franco-Prussian war......or .....Marcus Beck added Lister's antisepsis theory to a main surgical textbook after seeing soldiers die in the Franco-Prussian war.Whispyhistory (talk) 08:29, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Done, they might need more adjustment when reviewed. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:57, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

thx again, you are very helpful. I hadn't planned on a dyk but it's quite amazing the impact Marcus made. @Philafrenzy: Whispyhistory (talk) 09:16, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

It's a chance to get more views in one day than one would otherwise in a year, not to mention a peer review of the article. More scrutiny generally equals a better article even if sometimes the scrutiny is uncomfortable.

By coincidence I am working on Danford Thomas who also saw the Franco Prussian war. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:20, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

It's brilliant how everyone pitches in to improve the articles. My grammar and punctuation are terrible, hence I appreciate the polite scrutiny. I'll check out 'Danford Thomas'. I'm still working on John Wickham (urologist). Good to know you Whispyhistory (talk) 08:30, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Tom Cox (highwayman)

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Very short article, notability questioned a week ago and no reply.

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Incomplete DYK nomination

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DYK for Reginald Appleby

On 26 November 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Reginald Appleby, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Reginald Appleby founded the law firm Appleby which has been at the centre of the recent Paradise Papers leak? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Reginald Appleby. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Reginald Appleby), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Edward Dodding

@Philafrenzy: Are you not completing the DYK with a source for 1st hook and then adding it to nomination list? Whispyhistory (talk) 14:36, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

I added the source but I don't know how to make the source look neat.Whispyhistory (talk) 14:42, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

I forgot. Done now. A bot reminds you if you forget. Adding the source is optional and I don't usually because the nomination is much harder to read with it. Reviewers are supposed to be able to find it. Philafrenzy (talk) 14:53, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Shouldn't it be Razumovskaya?

Xx236 (talk) 10:45, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Obviously Maria Razumovskaya (Vyazemskya), see category of the picture.Xx236 (talk) 10:49, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Give me a chance. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:04, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Agreed, done. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:31, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

New Page Reviewing

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Thanks but I really have my hands full creating the pages. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:31, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

File:A. A. Gill.jpg

Hello again. I decided to PROD the image. Please feel free to add {{db-g7}} if you may. George Ho (talk) 09:42, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

A bot just picks up these non-free orphans and they get deleted a short while after in my experience. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:33, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of The Last Day of Pompeii

Hello! Your submission of The Last Day of Pompeii at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 10:41, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Tom Cox (highwayman)

Hello! Your submission of Tom Cox (highwayman) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Dahn (talk) 09:15, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

The Last Day of Pompeii

Hello Philafrenzy. This is a message to inform you that there are issues with the article The Last Day of Pompeii that need to be resolved before the article is approved for DYK. In addition, you have yet to leave a QPQ at the nomination page. Thank you. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 23:39, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Jasmine and Melissa Hemsley

Hello Philafrenzy. Was studying Ayurveda and Jasmine Hemsley's works when I came across your Wiki article on the sisters, and started to wonder if perhaps Jasmine might now deserve a self-standing page of her own? I began working on some words for it but am not an experienced Wiki editor so I looked you up and realised what a staggering number of pages you'd created. What a mesmerising and diverse range! May I ask your opinion then as to whether you think Jasmine would qualify for her own page or not? (I'd be happy to submit my draft to you if that's of any interest?). :-)

I know someone has been trying to create one, you or someone you work with (a PR company?) (MangoMalcolm?) since they announced they were starting solo careers, but I don't think she qualifies for a solo article until she has established an unambiguously separate presence in the public mind and the sources. It would just cause needless duplication at this point. Anything new can be added to the existing article for the time being.

By the way, you should familiarise yourself with our conflict of interest rules. Philafrenzy (talk) 16:22, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Ah OK, many thanks for your thoughts. (Actually I don't work for anyone I'm just a bit of an old hippy who is fascinated by the subject). Thank you anyhow for your reply and for sure I will read the suggested articles in case I want to write anything on any other subjects. Much appreciate you taking the time to reply. :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.11.211.84 (talk) 16:39, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

The Last Day of Pompeii DYK

Hello. I note that it has been almost a week since you last work on the article The Last Day of Pompeii. There are been comments left in the DYK nomination that have yet to receive a response, and there are issues with the article that remain unaddressed. If these issues are not resolved in a week the DYK nomination will be failed. Thank you. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:27, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Hamilton Naki

Thinking of tidying this article a little Hamilton Naki. Can you find a picture. Thank you for all your help earlier. Whispyhistory (talk) 18:16, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Done. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:18, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks...My to do list....study this in more detail. Whispyhistory (talk) 07:03, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

@Whispyhistory: Here's some more unsolicited advice of the type I told you to ignore:

• The first letter of article titles is always capitalised by the system but that doesn't apply in articles unless it's a proper name, e.g. John Smith was a general practitioner.
• There's no need to say "was documented" in prose, just say "was". It's documented in your refs.
• Don't hesitate to link names such as Thomas Buzzard, associations, awards, books or hospitals etc. Red-links aren't flaws, they are invitations to create new articles. Rook's Textbook of Dermatology is certainly notable for instance. They can be started with a stub if you wish. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:08, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

thanks..Buzzard looks interesting and might do one on Rook's.. Whispyhistory (talk) 15:31, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

I started the category "Physicians by hospital". It hasn't fully taken off yet but might interest you. Philafrenzy (talk) 17:21, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Yes..do let me know when to look at it. Whispyhistory (talk) 12:05, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Category:Physicians by hospital. It is lightly populated. You can create more by adding "Physicians of xxx hospital" as a category to articles and then clicking on the red link to create the category. Then just find the relevant biographies and add them to the category. Some of the hospital articles (where we have them) list notable staff but many don't. There is also a parallel Category:Physicians by medical school. You can see the top of the whole tree by finding Category: Physicians. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:46, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

New article

Thomas Buzzard LoopZilla (talk) 20:34, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Great! Philafrenzy (talk) 21:03, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Gustavus_Murray LoopZilla (talk) 20:47, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

hi, I added some info to Murray. Hope ok, change if want. BTW...I'm doing one on Charles Edward Wallis, dentist, in my sandbox. I can't find an image...help please.Shall I put in draft or article space first? Whispyhistory (talk) 12:03, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

If you feel it is of a reasonable standard I suggest putting it in article space. I will look for an image. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:41, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

I have found no image. I suggest you try your medical or dental library sources. He's early but not too early for something to exist. Failing portraits, book covers, graves, monuments or houses sometimes serve. Philafrenzy (talk) 14:44, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Charles Edward Wallis

Hi, I have couple of questions now this is an article. 1. its talk page still has something on perioral dermatitis 2. the publication section- is it ok? 3. It needs a reference heading 4. image?? Thank you Whispyhistory (talk) 08:46, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

The talk page was redirecting. I fixed it. I also fixed the publications section. Just copy that format in the future. No luck on the picture, see above. You can create a bullet point list by using asterisks:

• Like this
• And this
• And this

For numbered lists, use hashes:

1. Like this
2. And this
3. And this

Philafrenzy (talk) 23:13, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Thx so much Whispyhistory (talk) 10:34, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Dorset Martyrs memorial

The page is orphaned. Xx236 (talk) 11:42, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

An acute observation. What have you done about it? Philafrenzy (talk) 11:50, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

It happens that I don't have any idea about the subject, so my answer is - I have informed the author.Xx236 (talk) 12:02, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

The artist is stated in the article. You could add it to her article. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:05, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Advice on reviewing

Please advise. I'm reviewing this Template:Did you know nominations/Otto Franke (sinologist).

• copyvio >48%
• 4 references but good ones
• I check GPQ and there are 293
• expanded 6 times on 17 Dec
• image copyright looks ok. Not sure about size.

Am I doing this right and what else do I do? The article appears to be written by a very experienced wiki writer so I'm sure its good to go and I found it very interesting Whispyhistory (talk) 19:08, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

The detailed instructions are here. My summary would be to check:

• Does the length meet the criteria set out on that page?
• If new was it nominated in time? If expanded is the expansion sufficient?
• Is it neutral?
• Is it well referenced throughout and the hook fact confirmed with an inline ref?
• Is any picture on Commons?
• Does Earwig or your manual check find any plagiarism or close paraphrasing?
• Is the hook correctly formatted and within the required length?
• Is the hook interesting?

On that specific one, I wouldn't worry about the image. It's unlikely to be used as it won't be very good in thumbnail. I will comment further on the page. I don't understand your comment that the GPQ is 293. Be clear there are two character counts - the hook has to be short enough and the article/expansion long enough. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:25, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Thx, I don't understand GPQ. If I enter the user- 293 DYK reviews are listed. I copied the hook into character count- was less than 200. The article went from ~1000 bytes to more than 6000 appx. few days ago, excluding contents.reference list. The image is in wikicommons. Plagiarism is the quotes. I did think a better hook could be produced but I didn't think anything was wrong with it. Thanks for advising. What now? Whispyhistory (talk) 21:38, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

It's QPQ (quid-pro-quo) and simply means that the nominator has reviewed something else in turn (unless they are new when they get 5 free goes). So all you have to do is check that they have in fact reviewed the article they say they have reviewed in the nomination. Once you are satisfied with everything, add the appropriate symbol from the detailed instructions I linked above. This one, however, might need alternative hooks. It's down to you the reviewer but I have raised the matter on the page. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:44, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Got it. Thank you. btw..any chance of an image for Tudor Edwards? Whispyhistory (talk) 21:59, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Added the best I could find. There is certainly a higher quality version out there somewhere. Let me know if you see it. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:13, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for The Last Day of Pompeii

On 21 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Last Day of Pompeii, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Russian painter Karl Bryullov inserted himself into his picture of the eruption of Mount Vesuvius in The Last Day of Pompeii? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Last Day of Pompeii. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, The Last Day of Pompeii), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:04, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you

A big thank you for helping me out so much. Have a lovely Christmas🎄. I'll continue editing in between other jobs. Please continue to find images for me. I can do it when on it's on wiki commons but struggle otherwise. Whispyhistory (talk) 13:27, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, I look forward to many more interesting articles in the new year. Dodding should be on the front page soon, with the Inuit image if we are lucky. Merry Christmas Philafrenzy (talk) 18:02, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Horace Evans, 1st Baron Evans

This looks interesting Horace Evans, 1st Baron Evans. I've started researching. Original article did not show a fair view. Shall we have a go at making it better? No hurry. The Journal of medical biographies has some good images. Happy for anyone else to add. Whispyhistory (talk) 08:28, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

I have added a fair use pic. I think you have been watching The Crown. Have you seen this: http://www.standpointmag.co.uk/node/2446/full ? Philafrenzy (talk) 15:45, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

thx.. no I haven’t seen this but looks interesting. Yes... the crown is fantastic. Thank you for image. Whispyhistory (talk) 18:59, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

more complicated than I thought. Will read around before adding anything further.Whispyhistory (talk) 19:19, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Buildings by Herbert Baker

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Articles for Creation Reviewing

Hello, Philafrenzy. AfC submissions Random submission ~6 weeks 1,009 pending submissions to update I recently sent you an invitation to join NPP, but you also might be the right candidate for another related project, AfC, which is also extremely backlogged. Would you please consider becoming an Articles for Creation reviewer? Articles for Creation reviewers help new users learn the ropes of creating their first articles, and identify whether topics are suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Reviewing drafts doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia inclusion policies and guidelines; currently Wikipedia needs experienced users at this task. (After requesting to be added to the project, reviewing is not mandatory. One can do it at their convenience). But kindly read the reviewing instructions before making your decision. Thanks. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 03:12, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for The Doctor (painting)

On 30 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Doctor (painting), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Luke Fildes' painting The Doctor (detail pictured) was used to promote state-run healthcare in Britain and to campaign against it in the United States? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Doctor (painting). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, The Doctor (painting)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

this article was great because of you. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:18, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much but you are too modest. It was your idea, I would never have spotted it. Either way, it is a great contribution to the encyclopedia! Philafrenzy (talk) 20:54, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Peter Jones (surgeon)

can I use this blog reference? [[1]] Whispyhistory (talk) 09:10, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Yes, blogs aren't automatically out, it's a case of evaluating how reliable they are. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:13, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

👍Whispyhistory (talk) 09:18, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Happy New year

I wish you a fantastic new year 😀 Whispyhistory (talk) 09:39, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, same to you! Philafrenzy (talk) 09:40, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Tom Cox (highwayman)

On 31 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Tom Cox (highwayman), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the highwayman Tom Cox kicked the priest and hangman out of the cart taking him to be hanged at Tyburn (pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Tom Cox (highwayman). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Tom Cox (highwayman)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

• I just checked and found that the page got 17,442 hits yesterday. That's an excellent score and the hook certainly attracted my attention too. Well done! Andrew D. (talk) 09:24, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you Andrew, and for finding the additional source too, it really needed that. Happy new year! Philafrenzy (talk) 10:35, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

P.S. Nobody ever replied to my comment on the Tyburn talk page that we are not correctly identifying the site of Tyburn village. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:37, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Loo lady hook

Hi, please see discussion at WT:DYK#Prep 2. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:19, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

311 Upper Street

Just a head's up, somebody created Angel Recording Studios today, which is the same building, so I've changed this article to a redirect. I know this article came first, but the studio article is already better developed. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:39, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

No problem. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:33, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Edward Dodding

On 5 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Edward Dodding, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Elizabethan physician Edward Dodding conducted a post-mortem examination of Kalicho (pictured), one of three Inuit people brought to England? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Edward Dodding. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Edward Dodding), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

congratulations Whispyhistory (talk) 07:03, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. It's a long way from this to the current article, short though it is. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:05, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

I see they have cropped the picture to remove Arnaq and Nutaaq. I understand why but I preferred it before really. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:13, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

>13000 views 😱Whispyhistory (talk) 09:18, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Excellent! Not many get more than that. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:29, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Robin Ling

On 7 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Robin Ling, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Exeter Hip, designed by Robin Ling and Clive Lee, improved the life of millions of people? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Robin Ling. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Robin Ling), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 00:02, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Blossom's Inn

Thanks for uploading File:Blossoms Inn by Thomas Colman Dibdin, 1854.jpg, which is another fine period image. But I notice that it has a watermark and, as this might cause trouble, we should look for a version without one. I have limited time for this myself right now so just letting you know, in case you hadn't noticed it. Andrew D. (talk) 10:08, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, I had but find no alternative at present. No doubt it will be corrected in the fullness of time. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:11, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Cherry Marshall

On 9 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cherry Marshall, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that modelling agent Cherry Marshall discovered Ruth Ellis, the last woman to be hanged in Britain? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cherry Marshall. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Cherry Marshall), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Layouts

Dear @Philafrenzy:...This John Hunt, Baron Hunt of Fawley was a stub this morning.

• I'm not sure I'm doing correct or best way of layout.
• I did not change the first section/introduction - is it ok?
• it needs an image.
• I don't think I've entered quotes correctly
• I have however entered very useful content and there is more to come.

🙏🏻 Whispyhistory (talk) 21:23, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

I will take a look. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:12, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

See Template:Did you know nominations/John Hunt, Baron Hunt of Fawley. Is it ok? You probably have better ones Whispyhistory (talk) 19:47, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Looks OK but you appear to have forgotten to be pithy with the hooks which are both far too long. Alt1 is eye-watering and I have suggested a dull Alt. Nothing stronger as far as I can see. Pity it is only his wife who was Evill. A Dr Evill would have been great. Please add it to the project page or it won't proceed. I will take a look at the article. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:30, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Article looks OK, though the section on the founding is a bit convuluted and could flow more clearly. Quotes are not in italics unless called for by the material such as book names as part of the quote. Long quotes use a blockquote tag which you can see in use now in the article. More here: MOS:QUOTE. The first letter of job titles and similar isn't usually capitalised, e.g. fellow not Fellow, director not Director etc. Please go through and check. Philafrenzy (talk) 00:16, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

amazing, thank you. I'll tidy up Whispyhistory (talk) 06:45, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Margaret O'Flynn

Margaret O'Flynn becoming interesting. Possibly a hook on way but article needs more work and clarification of some of the pill history. please have a look and add if want. ..... DYK that in the UK, contraception for women was free only to those with four or more children until Margaret O’Flynn campaigned otherwise.???? Whispyhistory (talk) 16:58, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Yes, definitely has potential and I like your hook - a job writing clickbait at the Daily Mail could be yours. There is also the possibility of something around "free love" as that is quite clickable too. Philafrenzy (talk) 00:13, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

🙂I'll look/think bit more. 'free love' sounds good. Whispyhistory (talk) 07:05, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Combines two very popular words certainly. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:54, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

I didn't do the dyk....one hook would have required 2 different sources. The source with 'free love' doesn't mention O'Flynn. Its background. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:19, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

What about that "...Margaret O'Flynn pioneered the expansion of family planning provision in the U.K. despite government worries about encouraging "free love"? Might need quite a bit of finessing in the exact wording but why waste it? (P.S. there are still some notable spelling and other errors in the text) Philafrenzy (talk) 22:41, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

@Whispyhistory: Thanks, you need to add it to the daily list or it won't be reviewed. Also look critically at the text you have added. 10:42, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Edit warring

Are you seriously doing this? Pathetic. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:02, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

See here: http://explore.bl.uk/BLVU1:LSCOP-ALL:BLL01012673358 Philafrenzy (talk) 21:06, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK Reviewing

hi...few questions now and more at meet up. I'm reviewing HMS Mantua, new on 9 Jan. Couldn't see any other dyk that interested me. It looks short. I copied readable prose, no infobox/references/headings into character count - character count <1500. Is there an easier way to do this, eg like entering the article name into a tool? Whispyhistory (talk) 11:50, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

There's this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shubinator/DYKcheck but I don't use it as it looks too complicated for something so simple. I just copy and paste the body text into Word. It's generally obvious if they are too short. BTW Mantua is slightly too short by my count (around 50 characters), and it looks it even without checking. Advise the nominator to incorporate some background info about owners and builders etc into the text. WP:DYKCN Philafrenzy (talk) 12:07, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

thx. Whispyhistory (talk) 13:09, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Madge Meredith article

As I was posting my newly created article on Madge Meredith, I found that you had begun writing about her, too. I have posted the version I created as Madge Meredith (actress). Eddie Blick (talk) 20:21, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, nice article. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:30, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Images

Dear @Philafrenzy:.

• I really have trouble finding images. Easy when on wikicommons but I'm not confident to obtain from elsewhere. Will definitely speak to you about at next meet up. Can you help with Peter Jones (surgeon), Margaret Billingham, Richard Cattell (surgeon), Pankaj Chandak, Peter Kerley, Alex Sakula, Charles Drew (surgeon).

I will see what I can do.

• Also, on your very long list of stubs you created, let me know which are related to medicine. Whispyhistory (talk) 19:37, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Easier said than done, there are over 4,000 and most do not state their profession in the article title. Here's a few from 2017:

• David Todd (haematologist)
• Janice Rymer
• Patricia Reynolds
• Margaret O'Flynn
• Stephen Holgate (physician)
• Edinburgh Obstetrical Society
• John Wickham (urologist) (several redlinks)
• Arjen Dondorp
• Kevin Gatter
• André Capron
• Robin Eady

This takes it back only to 2 September 2017! Philafrenzy (talk) 20:37, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

• Dennis Shale
• Steven Carstairs
• Paul Weindling Wellcome Trust research professor in the history of medicine at Oxford Brookes University
• Clifford Brewer
• Herbert Barrie
• Walter Sydney Lazarus-Barlow (redlinks) lost an arm due to an accident during an autopsy.
• Caesar A. von Ramdohr

I think that is all from 2017 excluding biologists, dementia and autism specialists, etc. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:06, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Thx, will see who/what interests me - possibly Edinburgh Obstetrical Society next or someone who worked on malaria. I started Clive Lee (engineer) too if you can check. Whispyhistory (talk) 04:53, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Did all the images apart from Pankaj Chandak who is living (you need to meet him and take his picture) and Peter Kerley where there was nothing suitable. If you are wondering why some of them aren't the best, it's because there isn't always a good one available. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:03, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Re Lee - looks sound but you forgot to add any categories. Enable HotCat by going to Preferences/Gadgets if you have not already. I generally always start the talk page too by adding one project - bio or medical work here. Your lead in a longer article like this (above a stub) should stick to who he is and why he matters. The second sentence of the lead is confusing and too long and seems to combine two points. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:22, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

I seemed to have missed reading this message. Sorry. I had another look at list above- Clifford Brewer. I found one biography but not sure of reputable source. Lovely story anyway. Whispyhistory (talk) 17:50, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

I can bring the obit from The Times tomorrow if you want it. Also Ling. I try to cut them out and keep them. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:12, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

sure. see you tomorrow. Be prepared for lots of questions 🤓 Whispyhistory (talk) 18:52, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

No problem at all! Philafrenzy (talk) 18:53, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	You have been a super mentor. This is for encouragement and not giving up. Whispyhistory (talk) 15:10, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you kindly, you are an excellent student. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:17, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Margaret Cooper (Wren)

On 15 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Margaret Cooper (Wren), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a 1942 letter addressed to "the blonde Wren from Argentina on the platform at Bletchley station" led to marriage in 1945? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Margaret Cooper (Wren). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Margaret Cooper (Wren)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:07, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Blossom's Inn has been nominated for Did You Know

Hello, Philafrenzy. Blossom's Inn, an article you either created or to which you significantly contributed,has been nominated to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page as part of Did you know. You can see the hook and the discussion here. You are welcome to participate! Thank you. APersonBot (talk!) 12:01, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Help a professional historian

Can you help User talk:HelenBynum- They came to wiki event and are keen to contribute: I think I have found a mistake on a wiki page, but I cannot work out to the make a note about this for someone else to check.

Its the London Chest Hospital entry - the montage image is of the Royal Chest Hospital aka the Royal Hospital for Diseases of the Chest, City Road, the LCH was in Bethnal Green. Whispyhistory (talk) 21:10, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

If you are sure you can just remove it. Even better, as there does not appear to be an article for the RCH why not start it then you can use the image there? Philafrenzy (talk) 21:18, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

thank you, I may take a look too. Whispyhistory (talk) 05:44, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Ok, I can double check myself and think about starting a RCH article, but not immediately, should I just leave things as they are for now? Thanks Helenhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:HelenBynum— Preceding unsigned comment added by HelenBynum (talk • contribs) 14:17, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

If you are sure it is the wrong hospital it is better to remove the picture and leave an edit summary of "different hospital" or something like that. Then just make a note of the place where the picture can be found when needed. Philafrenzy (talk) 14:31, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Images/Rose

Thanks for Abercrombie. Can you try Fraser Macintosh Rose? Let me know if can't access source [[2]] which has image. Whispyhistory (talk) 13:46, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Thx again. I see you helped with grammar/prose. Is this ok? Template:Did you know nominations/Fraser Macintosh Rose? Whispyhistory (talk) 18:44, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

It could do with tightening and a bit of a polish but I like the hook. I revised it to give it a strong Canadian tone. There's also the possibility of something around being born in Eden but living in Preston, but that might offend the people of Preston. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:45, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Needs to be added to the daily list. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:46, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

excellent teamwork again Whispyhistory (talk) 21:04, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Indeed, a snowstorm in Nova Scotia must be the real thing I am sure. Nice use of the reviewing template on Blossom's Inn. Did you see my comment about the tool to measure your impact? Philafrenzy (talk) 21:10, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

thx..yes I saw template. Does it only record the articles you created? Whispyhistory (talk) 16:18, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Yes, but I suppose that is the point. Imagine when 1 million people every year are reading articles you started? It's not that hard to do. That's every year until the end of time or Wikipedia, whichever comes first! Philafrenzy (talk) 17:27, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of James O'Toole (tax lawyer) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article James O'Toole (tax lawyer) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James O'Toole (tax lawyer) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Black Kite (talk) 23:18, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

general

I see you think the prod tag should be there because Vern Miyagi was a general. I looked up notability and a flag or general qualifies but Miyagi was of lower rank (major general), not general. New2018Year (talk) 00:19, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

OK, but he is still getting a huge amount of coverage at the moment even though he didn't send the message. Philafrenzy (talk) 00:23, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't know that. I will think about it. I am not on a chopping rage, trying to cut out things. I am neutral. New2018Year (talk) 00:25, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

I have added some sources. Philafrenzy (talk) 00:27, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Gustavus Murray

On 18 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Gustavus Murray, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 1858, the obstetrician Gustavus Murray claimed to be able to identify the parts of a fetus, including each vertebra, through an abdominal examination of a pregnant woman? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gustavus Murray. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Gustavus Murray), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 15:32, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/American Base Hospital No.57

Philafrenzy, can you please return to your review here? The nominator has suggested a new ALT3 hook. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:17, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Bandy X. Lee

Hello! Your submission of Bandy X. Lee at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:23, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Warwick Castle, Maida Vale has been nominated for Did You Know

Hello, Philafrenzy. Warwick Castle, Maida Vale, an article you either created or to which you significantly contributed,has been nominated to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page as part of Did you know. You can see the hook and the discussion here. You are welcome to participate! Thank you. APersonBot (talk!) 12:00, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Margaret O'Flynn

On 23 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Margaret O'Flynn, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Margaret O'Flynn and her husband John Foley were the first wife-and-husband fellows of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Margaret O'Flynn. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Margaret O'Flynn), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:02, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Dora Saker

On 25 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Dora Saker, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that following its recent rediscovery, Dora Saker's 1917 book Practical Cheddar Cheese-making has "quickly acquired cult status amongst farmhouse cheese-makers" (cheese press pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Dora Saker. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Dora Saker), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:16, 25 January 2018 (UTC)