User talk:Richard-of-Earth/Archive 1

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Knock, knock

Hey you know that some of the editor here are also the editors of Xenu.net and Operation Clam bake. Just giving you an idea of what is going on. See ya around. Bravehartbear (talk) 04:09, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Comment attribution

Please don't attribute comments to me that were never said by me, as you did at the AfD. Such actions constitute disruptive editing and may result in blocking. Celarnor ^{Talk to me} 01:29, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Notice of Arbitration case

Not sure if you are aware of the closed Arbitration case, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Scientology. Just an FYI. Cheers, Cirt (talk) 20:51, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I was, but I should spend more time looking it over. Thanks.Richard-of-Earth (talk) 20:47, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey thanks alot for the feedback on my userspace page on Greensulate, it was really helpful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shield349 (talk • contribs) 21:40, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Removal of sourced info from article L. Ron Hubbard

Regarding [1], please see Talk:L._Ron_Hubbard#Sourced_info_removed_by_Richard-of-Earth. Thanks, Cirt (talk) 10:22, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Not vandalism

Hi, Richard. Please don't call or threaten to call good-faith edits "vandalism", it creates unnecessary tension. The editor is trying to improve the article. — Jean Calleo ^(talk) 16:48, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

You are correct. I over-reacted. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 21:05, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

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Derek Boogaard

I decided not to revert since it's probably more detail than necessary anyway, but please do note at the source:

Between trips to Minneapolis to tend to Aaron and his legal issues, Joanne Boogaard distracted herself by gutting and rebuilding her kitchen in Regina. A corner of the refurbished family room is a sort of shrine to Derek. A thigh-high cabinet holds mementos, like photographs and jerseys. Two boxes hold his ashes.

Daniel Case (talk) 05:51, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, I didn't read the whole article, I just searched for urn and didn't find it, so my bad for not catching that. However, boxes are not urns and it doesn't say his ashes are in two boxes due to his size. It could be for aesthetic reasons. So, I might have taken it out anyways. Thanks for letting me know. I'll try to be more careful. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:08, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

I think it's somewhere in the first part of the article that they mention they needed the two boxes. Daniel Case (talk) 06:28, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Ahh, I'm sure it is there then, if you say so. As you said, too much detail anyways. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:13, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Good work

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Yaaaa!! My first barnstar! Thanks! 08:55, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

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concerning Leonardo and other Renaissance people

Leonardo da Vinci should be sorted as "Leonardo". He was called Leonardo from Vinci when he was in Florence, but Leonardo from Florence, when he was in Milan. Although it has become increasingly common to call him Da Vinci, as Dan Brown does (and the name even appears on some art texts) it is not correct.

Likewise Michelangelo should never be sorted under Buonarotti. He was known as Michelangelo.

There are some people of the Renaissance that are commonly known by a nickname: Uccello, Botticelli, and others who are always known by their last name: Ghiberti, Verrocchio, Ghirlandaio. The Ghirlandaio thing is particularly confusing since the name on its own always refers to Domenico, (the most prolific painter) while Davide Ghirlandaio refers to his brother and Rudolfo Ghirlandaio to his son.

Amandajm (talk) 12:09, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Ranks and insignia of NATO/Army/Generic

Template:Ranks and insignia of NATO/Army/Generic has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:31, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Have you ever designed or worked on a template or series of templates that use nested parser functions? They do not have to show up under what links here to be used.

The template was deleted for the sake of getting it deleted despite my objection. I cannot always quit everything else I am doing just to comment on something as trivial as a tfd so I am quite puzzled at the speed of the deletion. What was the hurry?

First step for the re-evaluation of ALL ranks and insignia templates is the discussion phase. I need input from people on how is the best way to represent the ranks. Second phase is the programming/design phase of template. This can go back and forth of course. You can see part of that discussion phase on my talk page and I am waiting for these people to comment.

-- A Certain White Cat ^chi? 16:40, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

No, I'm sorry, I did not understand what you are doing with "nested parser functions". I vaguely recall what that is from college computer courses decades ago. I also don't understand how it has not been working since 2005. I would have changed my !vote if I could see some simple explanation. I looked over the link you gave and didn't see an explanation, just people agreeing some other templates were OK. I do agree that the TfD was closed too soon, but I can guess the closing admin didn't see answers as well. Can you add a standard blurb or a link to each of these templates showing they are all part of a bigger project? Can you include a link to where people are disscussing it? In any case, when you have it working, you can recreate the template. Have the closing admin userfy it for you. I am sorry if this has upset you. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 20:08, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

I am not upset, just trying to understand whats going on :). I typically stay away from xfd discussions so I am unsure how they function as of late.

mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions is a series of commands between nested {{ }} that are difficult to read and write. It complicates coding if it is userified as then you have even more redundant repetitious text. It would also cost me a lot of time to de-userify the template as the code would be shared with some templates currently in use in template space and others would be in my userspace. Why is it necessary to userify it? I would be happy if you could create blurb explaining that the templates are a part of the series and apply it to the templates. I do not know what to write in it to be honest.

To be fair I have not spent too much time on the rank templates until as of late as there really wasn't much of a need. It only covered the NATO countries of the time which was less than what it is today as even NATO expanded. Also the template structure is used to compare non NATO nations on several occasions. The idea to develop a generic template to better structure rank templates came about recently. While I have not edited all of the individual templates I have been discussing this with people recently. The discussion revolves around how to express the templates. Questions such as "Should the ranks be listed vertically or horizontally" need to be answered first before I attempt to code the template. Unfortunately that discussion is developing slowly as I had been busy with real-world affairs since December.

I hope this explains the points you raised. :)

-- A Certain White Cat ^chi? 09:53, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

I see, however, to all apperances the template was broken and unused since 2005. Fastily (talk · contribs) deleted it and will gladly usefy it for you. (Create a copy in you user pages.) Here ia a link to the TfD. When you are ready to finish coding it, I'm sure you can just recreate the template with no controversy. Good luck with it. :) Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:17, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

The thing is coding is that much difficult when it is outside of the template namespace. -- A Certain White Cat ^chi? 17:13, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Pedophilia Policy on Wikimedia.

I made a proposal on META:Talk:Pedophilia#Proposal. (I putting this here to remind myself to look at it once in a while.) Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:50, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Your survey on Trayvon Martin title change.

This survey is a mess, people cannot support multiple titles and it is wrong to plaster opposition to all others. It should be simple 'support' and 'reason' not a vote on each an every one. Only one title exists, yet users like Buster7 have several supports and opposes at once. I say remove all the 'oppose' and simply have each user choose one 'support' and that be it. Keeps it simple and keeps the problems away. It is impossible to garner who supports what from it currently. One vote per person; that is fair. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 16:57, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Chris, the one that gets the most support is the one we go with. It's not hard. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 19:41, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Christianity Page

Hello, you wrote, "Nope. Get consensus from the talk page first." My current level of understanding of wikipedia tells me that getting consensus from the talk page for the edit that I made is not necessary, would therefore be a waste of everyone's time, and that you have vandalized the article. If I am mistaken please notify me with wikipedia policy, but I am making another similar edit regarding Jesus' command. I do not wish to be in an edit war with you, and an edit war seems to be what you are engaging, according to my current knowledge level of wikipedia policy. If I am correct, please do not waste everyone's time further. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghostprotocol888 (talk • contribs) 05:14, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

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List of ethnic slurs

I put in an example of the use of "macaca" because there's an example of the use of "hymietown". More importantly, Allen's use is really more than just an example--for most Americans it's probably the only example. In fact if you go to the "macaca" page, the Allen use is explicitly specified for the slur meaning of the word as opposed to the Macaque monkey meaning of the word: "Macaca (term), a word used by United States Senator George Allen in 2006"; and on the "Macaca (term) page: "Most Americans were unfamiliar with the term until continual media coverage alleged it to be a racial slur." That there's *one* prominent use of the slur is probably true also of Jackson's use, but not of most of the slurs on the list, which are more widely known.

Please reconsider your deletion.HowardJWilk (talk) 22:25, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

February 2013

Please take disagreements to regarding the article 2012 Benghazi attack to the talk page. You and another user appear to be at the beginning of an WP:EW. Better to take this to the talk page before it actually starts.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 16:04, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

List of megaprojects

Richard, I started a conversation on the talk about the name and viability of the list. Please provide your thoughts. Thanks.--NortyNort (Holla) 23:16, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for cleaning up my cites at Cult. Peace!-- — Keithbob • Talk • 19:05, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Your revert

Why did you restore this? It is inappropriate use of a talk page as a forum to spread their racist ideas. Ryan Vesey 20:53, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

@Ryan Vesey: I just do not see it as racist. How is it racist? Am I missing something? Are you seeing something I am not? Honestly, I am missing it and not messing with you. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 22:00, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

The editor implied that her idea that Obama was communicating with her was "obviously" on racial ground and therefore had something to do with her race. Unless this can be supported by an external source, it doesn't belong on a talk page. Ryan Vesey 22:10, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

@Ryan Vesey: Simply because the statement includes implications that involves race, does not make it racist. I do not see how the statement is demeaning to any race or harmful to any individual. I take a dim view of the removal other people's posts from talk pages and revert them when I see them. However, if you feel strongly about it you could bring it to the attention of WP:BLP/N and if other eyes see what you do and I do not, they can remove it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 22:32, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Bảo Thắng

I do not know English, the phrase is translated by Google Translate. All the words in the name of "Nguyễn Phúc Bảo Thắng" are derived from Chinese. Chinese characters "阮福宝嶹" in the article "Bảo Thắng" Sino-Vietnamese reading is "Nguyễn Phúc Bảo Đảo", not "Nguyễn Phúc Bảo Thắng". "Đảo" 嶹 means "island". There are many Chinese characters that sound the same but with different meanings and many different writing but mean the same thing. There are many Chinese characters are pronounced "bảo" and "thắng". Can not arbitrarily replace them for each other. Hsumei (talk) 04:35, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Moved to talk:Bảo Thắng Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:58, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

"阮福保陞" is not "Nguyễn Phúc Bảo Thắng". "陞" read by Sino-Vietnamese pronunciation is "Thăng". "Thăng" 陞 means "promoted". "Thắng" is "勝". It means "victorious". There are many character read as "bảo" but not the same meaning can not just replace a character in it. Vietnam's name originates from China not mean that they will write the name of the Vietnam accurate. There should be documentation of Vietnamese people indicate his name written in Chinese characters is what. If no, then do not add Chinese characters to. Vietnamese modern written in the chữ quốc ngữ, not written in the Chinese or chữ nôm. Hsumei (talk) 05:47, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

突擊的超人 (talk · contribs) is Nipponese Dog Calvero. Chinese Wikipedia and Vietnamese Wikipedia has banned 突擊的超人:

https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=&title=Special%3A%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE&contribs=user&target=%E7%AA%81%E6%93%8A%E7%9A%84%E8%B6%85%E4%BA%BA&namespace=&tagfilter=&year=2013&month=-1

https://vi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=&title=%C4%90%E1%BA%B7c+bi%E1%BB%87t%3A%C4%90%C3%B3ng+g%C3%B3p&contribs=user&target=%E7%AA%81%E6%93%8A%E7%9A%84%E8%B6%85%E4%BA%BA&namespace=&tagfilter=&year=2013&month=-1

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Total siyapaa

Thanks for your very gratuitous support but now I have been not able to edit Total Siyapaa. I do not know why? But I have commented on talk page discussion for Box info. Please read this ( No I do not agree because 99% of references available on inter net say 80 Million Indian Rs (8 Crore) budget. I mean 13 sources added by me + 115 other sources which I never added please see.https://www.google.com.pk/search?q=Total+siyapaa+budget+8+crore&newwindow=1&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:y&sa=X&ei=jTgyU8KLHOWw0AWMroDQBA&ved=0CBoQpwUoBQ&biw=1366&bih=653. Some one also removed completely referenced 10 days box office world wide gross of 102 Million (10.2 Crore). I think no one is ready to listen and want to do what they want. Should i leave to put my effort to find so many references still rejected and bitten like this? 39.32.206.224 (talk) 02:54, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Mark Reed (sculptor)

Hello there Richard, Thank you so much for your very helpful comments with regards the Article on Mark Reed (sculptor). I have read and re read and have made lots of amendments particularly with regards the fact that I certainly don't want to be advertising and the peacock terminology. I would really appreciate it if you could cast your eye over it when you have a chance and let me know where I might make more alterations as I really want to make sure that I create a good article. I have also taken your advice on board with regards the categories (read lots of other sculptors, as indeed I did beforehand but I had missed them off the end- sorry. However, I notice that some of them are in red and say that the category page does not exist, yet they are the same categories that the other pages have. Is there something else I need to do? I've read the section on categories, but did have a child in the background (it's the Easter holidays) so maybe missed the point? Many thanks again for your help. hannahlucyHannahlucy100 (talk) 21:53, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Richard, Many thanks for your very useful comments and guides with regards my article on Mark Reed (sculptor), it was really helpful and I really want to make sure I get this right. I found your advice about the tone of the article and the fact that it had both peacock terms and sounded like advertising especially relevant as it is of the utmost importance to me that I follow the guidelines of Wikipedia as it's such a great thing! I have deleted lots and also changed much of the piece but would be very grateful if you could cast your eye over it when you get a chance and let me know what else I can do to improve the piece. I have followed your suggestions on the categories, I looked up lots of other sculptors (as I did previously) to see which categories they include and found those most pertinent to this article, I must have missed them off on the original! However, although I have added then, the ones in red say they they do not have category pages on them, I don't understand as they are the same categories (bar one) that the other sculptors have. I have read and reread the section in help on Categories but can't see what I'm doing wrong (mind you I did have a small child in the background, it's the Easter Holidays!!!). If you could give me any advice on this I'd really appreciate it. Thank you again and I hope to correspond with you again soon, Kind Regards hannahlucy100Hannahlucy100 (talk) 22:05, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

• Done. Categories need exact spelling. I just find the category I want and copy and paste it in. That way I do not miss. I fixed other stuff as well. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:47, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Arman Soleimani

Soleimani, the head of Iran's petrochemical ideal repair is one of the most political persons in iran — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aminileila (talk • contribs) 21:22, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

@Aminileila: Do you have a source to verify that? See WP:V. Is this man related to Qasem Soleimani? Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:42, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Synthetic cannabis - War on Drugs

I restored the section you had deleted, adding references. I hope this is now satisfactory.deisenbe (talk) 11:04, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

@Deisenbe:Awesome! One or two refs would have been fine, but I suppose lots of refs show it is not just a fringe opinion. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 19:11, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Mabalo Lokela

Jytdog has redirected your page, but I'd wager that enough short term content has been contributed to Wikipedia that an enterprising author or editor could glean this for a book on notables in the march of ebolavirus over our species and companion animals... MaynardClark (talk) 17:35, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 unofficial disappearance theories

Thanks for your encouragement and support to the changes I made to this article, Richard. I know this kind of "theories" tend to attract unwelcome modifications, I tried to be prudent and fair. I modified the idiom "in that tonic". Answering your question I think it refers to the general tone or accent (emphasis) of a discourse, as you can see here: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tonic (check definition 11). After your comment I'm convinced I mistranslated a Spanish idiom (my native tongue), where "en esa tónica" refers to the general pattern or style in a discourse, while in English, as I understand now, refers only to the musical tone or intonation of a phrase. I changed it to "In that vein". Thanks a lot, I learned something new. Ciroa (talk) 06:39, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

Made me laugh. Actually, shoe-throwing does have a special meaning in certain Mid-Eastern Arab cultures. But I don't mind the removal, and your edit summary made me laugh. Thanks. --Epeefleche (talk) 05:24, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out the article. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:26, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

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Richard loves trout fried in butter

There is a discussion; you must not have looked hard enough. I linked it in my edit summary. I see that it wasn't much of a discussion, with only two contributors, but I took action based on that discussion which involved the removal of the template, and that is how it stuck for months until a short time ago when Wakanebe Wizard re-added it without an edit summary. Dustin (talk) 16:32, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Also, less important, at the top of your talk page, it says "Click on "New Section" above to start a new convesation." - There is a typo in the word "conversation". I'd fix it myself, but some editors don't like that, so I thought I would just mention it here. Dustin (talk) 16:34, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

@Dustin V. S.: Ahh dammit! I did not notice the second edit, just the first and when I searched for "British" in the archive, I found a conversation above the one you mention and forgot to look below. Oh well, my bad. I usually avoid writing prose due to mistakes like that. That and I am a rotten speller as you caught. If we do not put dialect tags on the article, people will go around and change everything to American English or some other dialect and make lame excuses for it. The compromise is to have these tags although sometimes they make sense and sometimes they are just random. I guess whoever cares first slaps one on. To change it there needs to be "broad consensus", not just you and one other guy. I feel it it is needed, Wakanebe Wizard does and perhaps someone else who put it there originally (unless that was Wakanebe Wizard or myself and I forgot about it). MOS:TIES applies as well. Thanks for the WP:TROUT. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 20:13, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

I don't care a huge amount if spellings that are used by British people are used in the article so long as the reason we are doing it that way is because of Singapore, an involved country. I just don't appreciate it when people change it to one dialect just based on personal preference and without consensus. I'm not saying there aren't American nationalists as well, but it is more common that an article is changed to British English thanks to this commonly used ENGVAR script which has a "to British" and maybe a "to Canadian" but not a "to American" option, which results in a disproportionate number of abusers happening to be on the British side of things. I guess this is more the fault of the script than the editors, but I don't want to leave a wall of text on your talk page, so I guess I'll just say that unless a broad consensus is established in a given article, I think people should be more limited when it comes to whether or not a dialect-changing script is allowed. All that aside, thank you for replying. :) Dustin (talk) 20:26, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

where sahara desert is situated plz tell me

where sahara desert is situated plz tell me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.43.102.152 (talk) 08:33, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

The Sahara is in North Africa. 23°N 13°E / 23; 13 Richard-of-Earth (talk) 08:42, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia's default spacings around headings

I'm certainly not going to undo your edit here, but those line breaks are actually part of the default spacings which should be there. I occasionally add Wikipedia's invisible default spacings around headings to ease editing. For those with poor eyesight and older people it makes it easier to find section headings while editing.

To see how it works, just use your "new section" tab on this page. Put in some symbols for the heading and also for content, then save it and look at the content in edit mode. Those are the default spacings here. -- BullRangifer (talk) 02:16, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

@BullRangifer: On the pages I have edited, people take them out. I just want it consistent with the rest of the article. In this case I took them out specifically to see the changes made using the diff function on the view history. Here is the diff where you put the space in and I cannot tell what you really changed. I have to edit it to take the line out, so I can see the changes. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:47, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Ah! I see your point. It's probably not a good idea for me to make copy edits and also add a blank line at the same time. I hadn't thought of that. Best to keep those types of things separate. Thanks. -- BullRangifer (talk) 14:32, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

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eidetic memory

that wasn't a joke. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.184.213.19 (talk) 06:05, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

List of drag queens

Can you help me on the addition to the table of "Badsan" - obviously I did it wrong, as you can see in the History. Thanks for your help.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:51, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

I was just trying to help

I do not know what you say when this website is free to edit for any kind of contributors as long as it is not bad. religious course is one of the course, we used common sense not arrogant. anyway, i was just trying to help here. Trymankind (talk) 12:57, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

@Trymankind: You are free to edit Wikipedia, but your changes must be neutral in viewpoint or they will be removed. Your edit (here) linked god to God in Islam. That is considered bias (not neutral). See WP:POV. Neutrality aside, the addition did not belong on that list. Religion is a subject a course might address, but the list is about formats of courses, not subjects. See if there is something you can add to religious education, but please include a citation showing your addition is not your opinion or personal observation, but based on something published and verifiable. See WP:V. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:12, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Subconcious

• I do not copy or insert the "instinct and subconscious" chapter (looks history) - sorry.--G de gonjasufi (talk) 01:42, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

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I removed the Perpetuators category because he is already in a concentration camp category and that category is already a sub-category of the Perpetuators category. Obviously, from the article text, he belongs here somewhere or another. Hmains (talk) 04:08, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

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I saw in the Wang Jingwei article in the Infobox "Generalissimo" in the rank. BTW as the head of the China-Nanjing Regime he had the same titles as Chiang Kai Shek in his government, since he claims his gvt is the only gvt in china. That's why I warn you I will put back Wang Jingwei again. Bnicol.farbin (talk) 16:48, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Bnicol.farbin, this still needs a citation. We need a source that says this not just your word for it or who ever put that in the infobox. I will leave it now, but I will put a citation needed tag on it. If somebody does not find a citation, it will get removed from the list and the infobox as well. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 17:35, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Noted. Bnicol.farbin (talk) 12:03, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

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List of Drag Queens

Thank you for the input on the how to cite correctly. I thought I did it correctly the second time. Before I make another entry, would this work as a as a citation? HERE Waywillie (talk) 01:32, 1 September 2017 (UTC)Waywillie

Waywillie, that is a program for a Pride Day event. It does not establish notability. See WP:CELEBRITY for criteria. If they do fulfill the criteria it should be mention in some kind of newspaper. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 09:12, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Non-diffusing subcats

Did you see that Category:American female composers explicitly states that it is a non-diffusing subcat of Category:American composers? Please refer to WP:GHETTO for the policy on this topic. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:14, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Justin, no I did not and I was not aware of this policy guideline. It seems silly to me to have her in both. I do not see her "ghettoized" by being placed in the sub-category alone. However, I am not incline to contest it. I will leave it as is. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 08:29, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

No worries. And for what it's worth, I also think it is not the correct choice but the community had a lot of back-and-forth on this topic and came to this conclusion. :/ ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:31, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

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Different discussion?

Both are same discussion about calling the killer "suspect", created by same user. I only combined them because there are already like half a dozen topics that have 2-3 subsections for the same thing, I figured might as well combined the two that are right next to each other. WikiVirusC^(talk) 00:31, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Your right. Somehow I thought the FBI thing was mainly about the director being called to resign. I have reverted myself. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 00:46, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

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That is just fine. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 19:15, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Pak is not a racial slur. Why did you add this as an entry?

Hi Richard. Could you please clarify your edit [3] Pak itself is not a slur. I am not sure why you have added this without any explanation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.201.71.70 (talk) 22:30, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

The place to make these comments is on the talk page for the list at Talk:List of ethnic slurs. However, please see the citation here. The entry says "Paki ... Also Pak." Perhaps it is not offensive where you are from. Sorry I did not mention this in my edit summary. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 00:14, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks...I did not know! — Preceding unsigned comment added by BinaryPhoton (talk • contribs)

In regards to this? No problem! Richard-of-Earth (talk) 03:44, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Apologies for this undo

From a superficial judgement of the diff-view I misinterpreted the title of the next poem as a paragraph header, and therefore wrongly deduced the need for some rewrite. I am sorry, and thanks for the redo. Purgy (talk) 08:02, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

No problem. I thought it might be a misunderstanding. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 08:06, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

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Sorry, but there are no other way than supplying the Google Books link as a source to that "Great Devil War" note on Land of Nod. The English edition of that book hasn't come out either, so it would be the Danish text. There's no article online talking about how Outer Reach in the book is Nod, sadly. There are articles or pages talking about how Cain was banished to the place in the books though. --Luka1184 (talk) 15:19, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

@Luka1184: The point is you need to establish the significance of the reference. Just because the book has the Land of Nod in it does not mean it gets a mention in the article. See WP:IPCV for guidance on this. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 17:49, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

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Ksenia Sobchak controversies are not accusations they are fact

The Daily Star, The Mirror and more had picture and video evidence of her naked with the hitler book and calling a black waiter a slave both on her own instagram. This is Irrefutable evidence. Everything else i put in that section was also fact. I request that the entire section be reinstated.

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@Vetrix1996: thank you for your polite request. If I did not remove it, someone else would. Things like this do not get put in Wikipedia articles unless they are backed up from multiple news sources that are very reliable like the Washington post, CNN, Fox news, etc(or perhaps Russian equivalents). See Wikipedia:Libel. These things can be faked and people will just say they are fake, so they are not irrefutable. The issues about her father are already addressed in the article. Anyone reading the article as it is will likely get the impression she is a rich girl. You should take these other accusations up one at a time on the talk page in a new section for each with multiple citations for each. I am sorry to have to remove your contribution to Wikipedia; I hope you continue to bring us new content. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:43, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Also, if you speak Russian, could you check the interview here against my edit here and see if I interpreted it correctly? Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:48, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

@Richard-of-Earth: Unfortunately i don't speak russian, thank you for the explanation. Vetrix1996 (talk) 01:05, 21 January 2019 (UTC)vetrix1996

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"The word drongo is used in Australian English as a mild form of insult meaning "idiot" or "stupid fellow". " Regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:47, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

@Martinevans123: yes it is an insult, but the article states it is a list of term "used to describe disabilities or people with disabilities that may be considered negative". In other word, terms created to describe such people without intentionally being pejorative, but later acquired pejorative connotations. Basically, if we can include "drongo" then we could include most insults on the list and it become indiscriminate. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:56, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

I think the word, used in that sense, is clearly pejorative and related to (mental) disability. If words which also have other meanings are to be excluded from that list, I think the guidance needs to be made clearer. Are you suggesting that "Mongol" should also be removed? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:00, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

@Martinevans123: Right after I wrote the above comment I was thinking that the lead to the list was not clear enough. "Mongol" was used by the medical community as short for Mongolian idiocy that then became offensive. It acquired pejorative connotations followed by taboo status after being used neutrally. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 19:29, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

That sounds rather similar. I guess the actual race Mongols is comparable with the bird family Drongo. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:07, 10 February 2019 (UTC) p.s. perhaps this discussion would be batter moved to Talk:List of disability-related terms with negative connotations? Thanks.

Sure, let's take it up there. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 21:32, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

(Refactored to Talk:List of disability-related terms with negative connotations#Drongo)

Bill Cosby consensus

Would you mind reconsidering?126.243.115.38 (talk) 20:17, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

I have considered it, but I have not changed my mind. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 20:55, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Source to "Koftes" being an ethnic slur to Coptic Christians

Besides common usage in social media, this is the only credible source I could find for it:

https://ar.mo3jam.com/term/%D9%83%D9%88%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%B3

Translation from Arabic: "slur or joke used by some Egyptians to describe a Coptic (Christian) person

Example: Hey, Gergis [a common Coptic name for males], you koftes."

However, I could not find any source comparing it with meatballs. Ifdyourgoats (talk) 23:21, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

(Refactored to Talk:List of ethnic slurs#Should "Koftes" be added?)

recent report at WP:BN

Hi Richard, I saw your recent report at WP:BN, have removed it, blocked the IP that posted it, and have put in a request to have it suppressed. Thanks for catching that and reporting it, but for future use, it's better to report stuff like this one of the ways described at WP:RFO than at a noticeboard. It's a lot more discrete. We usually remove those reports from noticeboards too, just to further reduce the publicity. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:11, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

thanks. I knew there was such a thing, I could not remember where it was. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 17:20, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

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"Hun" and "Norn Irish"

Hi mate. Thanks for adding 'Norn Irish' back in. All that remains is to ask what is needed for the term 'Hun' to be added. I'm going to add a thank you on the article talk page also. Cheers. --82.2.5.153 (talk) 20:40, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

I don't understand why you undid my addition of Monsieur Marton

I don't understand why you undid my addition of Monsieur Marton to the list of drag performers. I included a reference whose footnote led to a translation of a newspaper ad regarding Monsieur Marton's performance. It was primary source documentation that this entertainer existed, and did this type of show in Egypt in 1933. The translated ad in my link included 3 paragraphs of narrative about Monsieur Marton, along with several photos of his act. Shiradotnet (talk) 06:54, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

@Shiradotnet: Due to the size of the list, we only list people who have an article. I understand it is researched. You can try to create an article for this person, but I doubt it is notable enough to have an article. See Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists#Common selection criteria. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:46, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps also you could add to Drag queen#History of drag. Although you may need to find more material from WP:SECONDARY sources. We have a short article about Badia Masabni who open the club, perhaps you could add to that. Is it possible this drag artist is Ismail Yaseen? Richard-of-Earth (talk) 17:08, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

@Richard-of-Earth:The drag artist I listed is not Ismail Yassin. When Ismail Yassin performed in drag, he used his own name. It's not appropriate to edit Badia Masabni's entry to add any drag performers to it, because drag artists were a very minor aspect of her overall contribution to Egyptian performing arts. I'm extremely frustrated, because I did not see anything in your original Wikipedia listing specifying the existence of an article as a criterion for including an artist. If I had seen that, I wouldn't have wasted my time trying to enhance the drag community's knowledge of its history. I'm very new to contributing stuff to Wikipedia, and I expected that your list page would have given me information about inclusion criteria. This has been an extremely frustrating experience for me, and quite honestly, it has killed my appetite to add anything further to Wikipedia, on any topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shiradotnet (talk • contribs) 15:52, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

@Shiradotnet: I am sorry you are upset. I will see about getting this criteria mentioned on the talk page and perhaps a warning to appear when people edit the page. I think I will copy this conversation over to the talk page so others can give their thoughts. Perhaps we should add an exception to the criteria regarding historically significant instances for this list, but we would require a publish academic statement that it was significant or consensus from other Wikipedia editors that it should be on the list. It works against you that the citation you used links to a web site you have named your account after, Shira.net. It looks like you are trying to promote the site. If you are connected to creating the site, WP:OR could apply. I am not trying to judge this because I do not care about it. The citation is to the newspaper advertisement, not the website. Others are very paranoid about WP:COI accounts. To my mind the activity of location citations and summarizing them on Wikipedia is a degree of original research. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 17:27, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

@Richard-of-Earth: I am very confused. I attributed Al Ahram as the source of the information. Unfortunately, the Al Ahram archives which were used by Priscilla Adum for the translation back around 2009 or so are no longer online. Although it's true I linked to my site, it was only because the ad in question is reproduced there, so I was offering an option for people to view a copy of the primary source. It was either that or link to Priscilla's Facebook page where she originally posted her translation, which is the only other place that I know of where the ad can still be seen online. Are you saying I should have omitted the link to my web site and simply listed the Al Ahram information without any link? My logic was that people might want to view the ad for themselves. Or would it have been better to link to Priscilla's Facebook post as where the Al Ahram ad could be viewed? Really, all I was trying to do was make available information about a drag performer that crossed my path. As I said before, I'm very new to contributing stuff to Wikipedia, and I'm extremely confused by all this negativity.

See Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. This negativity is the enforcement of this policy. Without some criteria to limit what goes on this list, every drag queen that exists and has existed will get added to the list and the list will be indiscriminate. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:06, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Copied to Talk:List of drag queens#I don't understand why you undid my addition of Monsieur Marton. Consider replying there. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 17:56, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

I see what you did

I see what you did there. You’re the real MVP, Richard! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8807:1083:500:D423:8AB0:1C98:A56A (talk) 23:59, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:13, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

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Re this revert of my edit, I gather from your editsum that your sole rationale was that I shouldn't have changed a heading created by a different editor. Please see this at WP:TPO (emphasis mine):

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@Mandruss: interesting. I was not aware of that particular policy. I still think keeping the original title was important. Most editors are mature enough that they know the "important" part shows the OP's does in fact need educating and are not misled by it for a second. Also I noted after I made the revert that there was a link on Talk:2019 Dayton shooting#Important (procedural) question about this discussion and !vote to that conversation as the OP put it on both pages and your change broke that link. Of course if I had not reverted you and instead just fixed the bracket pairing, I could have just fixed that link. It was really just less buttons to push to revert it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:13, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

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Hi Richard, there's a question related to this [5] edit. The article does have a "blog" word in URL but it's just a list of articles of a well-known service, which is not a private or self-published blog. So it doesn't seem to violate this rule. Goo3 (talk) 15:10, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

@Goo3: the link you gave does not work, The reason we do not use self published sources is they are not peer reviewed. I overlook that if the self published source is from a published expert like a professor at one of the major universities, but it depends on the use. If it is a list of articles, use one or more of the listed articles as a source. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:46, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Richard-of-Earth, sorry Richard, I gave you a wrong diff, here's the correct one. I've used an article from the list as a source. It's neither a blog nor a self-published source. They've just had "blog" in the URL, dunno why, though it's an articles' list. Thanks for the explanations, I'll use the article as a source then. Goo3 (talk) 04:44, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

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High crimes and misdemeanors

I formally apologize for and removed the previous assertions that I mistook for misconduct on the editor's behalf and now understand that the misrepresented removal of edits on basis of edits not summarizing the article were not targeted bias but perhaps lack of diligence on proofreading the other edits in the summary section. While I still believe my removals were unjust compared to the other text existing, it doesn't justify the comments made previously by myself as I attributed bias that I now believe didn't exist. --Human On 3rd Planet (talk) 06:55, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Link spamming

If you don't like the resource I linked to, that's fine, but please don't accuse me of link spamming just because I wrote it. The tutorial on informal fallacies seemed directly relevant to an entry on logical fallacies, which is why I put it there and only there (and the entry on informal logic, again because it seemed relevant). Before I closed down the web site that used to host it, the tutorial had received positive feedback from several people directed there from Wikipedia, and I never received any complaints for linking to it. When I was finally able to restore and even update the material on my current blog, I figured I should update the Wikipedia entry with the correct link. Looking at my talk page, I now see that the link was removed once before, so maybe there was some sort of change in the policies on external links or something. Anyway, the link is gone, so no harm done, and I'm sorry for whatever grief I caused. Like I said, please just don't accuse me of link spamming. I honestly thought the link was relevant. BMN (talk) 10:15, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

@Napzilla: Oh my, no grief at all. A couple of clicks. I just assumed you did not know. I am sorry if it caused you grief. You can certainly link to your blogspot web pages on your user page, but not at the article external link section. Wikipedia:External links#Links normally to be avoided mentions in item 11 Blogs, personal web pages ... except those written by a recognized authority. I see you are published on Geography, but not in Logic. I suppose if you wrote something about Geography and it was hosted on you university web site and used by your students and it was not really available anywhere else, then we would use it. An example it James E. Morrison's page on Astrolabes is simply not available anywhere else. (It is a good read.) Please continue to contribute to Wikipedia, we do like having your contributions. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:49, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Vegetarianism on Common Misconceptions Page

I am confused on your reversal of my edit on the common misconceptions page about whether or not vegetarian diets get enough protein. It has already been reverted and un-reverted before. The supposed misconception is that vegetarians have a hard time getting enough protein in their diet. Specifically it says "A vegetarian or vegan diet can provide enough protein for adequate nutrition." It explains this with "In fact, typical protein intakes of ovo-lacto vegetarians and vegans meet and exceed requirements. However, a vegan diet does require supplementation of vitamin B12 for optimal health." which, worded as it is here, actually supports the supposed "misconeption" when it is supposed to be refuting it. The first and second sentences agree with each other when they are supposed to contradict each other as per the style of the article.

The sources also support that the misconception is that vegetarians cannot consume enough protein. See https://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/082510p20.shtml (citation 411 at time of writing) where it almost verbatim says that the misconception is that vegetarians cannot get enough protein. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brandonharrisoncode (talk • contribs) 17:14, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

@Brandonharrisoncode: I do not actually care how you interpret it or about the issue. I went by the first citation I looked at and that the article says no such thing and that the stable version of the page has said "can" for a long time and lastly that there are not a bunch of dead vegetarians from malnutrition. Frankly I consider what you did vandalism, because if you know it has been reverted and un-reverted before then you know you need consensus before changing it. So you should be discussing it on the talk page. That you are here on my talk page means to me you are trying to be disruptive about it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 19:14, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

@Richard-of Earth: I think there's been a misunderstanding here, I'm not trying to be disruptive and I'm sorry if it has come across that way. I added the not because I believe that the bullet point in the article contradicts itself. I don't have any particular interest in the issue and I don't want to offer my own interpretation, I simply wanted to fix what seems to be a contradiction. From what I understand we even agree on what the sources say. As for the reversions, I mean that someone else had the same thought process as you, reverted my claim, and then looked at it, and then undid his reversion saying 'I was mistaken. Previous version correct.' Which is why I was confused as to why it was getting reverted again instead of creating a discussion on the talk page. I am fairly new to editing Wikipedia, so if I was wrong in coming to this talk page instead of creating a new section on the article then I'm sorry, I simply wanted to understand why my work was reverted. Brandonharrisoncode (talk) 20:01, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

@Brandonharrisoncode: Oh, well then I am sorry if I was a bit harsh. Go to the talk page, start a new discussion, if you get more people to agree that it should be changed, then it will be changed. In all likelihood it won't happen because the article for vegetarianism says they can get enough protein, so you probably need to go there. Obviously the citations themselves contradict each other. It is a controversial issue and there are experts on both sides. Until I see death certificates that say people died from vegetarianism, I am going to assume they get enough nutrition to live. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 20:21, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Advice on edits

Thankyou for the information on adding citations.

I will re-enter the data and attempt to include two inline citations referring to Wikisource.

The former ownership of the item is the critical plot device. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eighth of Seven (talk • contribs) 15:19, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

If you can please re-check the edit when complete, and confirm that it is correct and functional, that would be very helpful.

Cheers

Eighth of Seven (talk) 15:08, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

@Eighth of Seven: If you just citing the book itself that would be a WP:PRIMARY. What you would need is a review of the book that specifically mentioned Hassan-i Sabbah as being important to the story. Citing the book itself along with the secondary source might be okay. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:54, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/106.205.177.38

Hi, I have deleted Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/106.205.177.38 since IP addresses in India changing is not socking, and the banned user who you allege these IPs to be hasn't had a sock I can see in approaching 7 years. I see you've tagged a lot of IPs as them over the years. I'm somewhat skeptical, but the correct place to report them is Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mokshanine. If you do so, you must present actual evidence. To be perfectly honest, most CUs and admins aren't going to want to spend time determining if an IP is a banned user from almost a decade ago with no blocked accounts in years, so the evidence will need to be strong and in the form of easily readable diffs. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:13, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Okay, I dug and saw some of the names. I'm not convinced on all of them, and I'm not undeleting since it should be at the SPI I linked just above. There's a practical issue though: Indian IPs are extremely dynamic so when you report them, they'll likely change by the time someone gets around to looking at it. In the future, it might be best to report to AIV with a clear description of the disruption and a diff showing you know how they are banned. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:23, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

@TonyBallioni: Thank you for taking the time, I can see now that it was a waste. I used twinkle and I thought it would just report him for a temporary block, since he was editing today. When I saw it went to SPI I considered deleting it. It is definitely the same guy, but he edits maybe a dozen or less times over a year. His style is very recognizable and often non-sequitur, so WP:QUACK applies. I have deleted his stuff for years and he has never complained to me about it. I will just keep an eye out for him. Thanks again. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:06, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Amanbir Grewal

I AM NOT MOKSHANINE.

LOL

this is my e-mail amanbirsinghgrewal@gmail,com. go verify the ID.

also on facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/amanbir.singh.526/

CIAO .

Yes you are. See [6]. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 02:06, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

August 1956

Please could you add citations for the entries you have added to August 1956? Deb (talk) 07:41, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

BTW, do you want me to block that sock above? Deb (talk) 07:43, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

@Deb:, I just copied them from the August 26 article. Births seem to not be cited on these lists as long as they are cited in the linked article. I suppose I could copy the citations over from the articles if you would like. The less attention we give the sock, the better. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:55, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Okay. The month articles aren't really lists, and were all created with citations in place for all entries. Lists aren't excluded from the citation requirement any more, and gradually they will be added to all of them. It's already started but it's a long slow process. Deb (talk) 07:58, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

@Deb:, Aaarrrggg! What a pain! The citation on Guzman was blacklisted and Whiteman was not cited at all. I manage to dig one up for Guzman. This all started with me looking at something else and noticing the empty section and though "why don't I be nice and fill something in there." Richard-of-Earth (talk) 08:37, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Ah, well now you see the reason for it! :-) Deb (talk) 08:42, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Worldometers

Your input would be helpful at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Worldometers.info. --Guy Macon (talk) 19:12, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Propaganda during the Yugoslav Wars

Dear Richard-of-Earth, I hope you're doing well these days. I've noticed your extraordinary contributions to the articles on propaganda. On the NPOVN, I have posted a problem related to the article Propaganda during the Yugoslav Wars. If you have time, I would like you to look at the situation and try to give your opinion, as a neutral side with extensive experience. I would be honored if you would take a part in the discussion, I'm sure you can help. All the best.--WEBDuB (talk) 18:26, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Category

How to create a New Category... Samkeyta (talk) 06:07, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Samkeyta: You just add it to the bottom of the article like [[Category:Boys' schools in India]]. What category do you wish to create? There is already a Category:St. Paul's School, Darjeeling alumni, if that is what you are thinking.. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 02:11, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Want to add a Catogory publications Samkeyta (talk) 09:12, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

@Samkeyta: Category:Publications exists already. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 14:28, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Do you mean to add a new subsection to an article? Richard-of-Earth (talk) 14:30, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes Samkeyta (talk) 04:27, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Some guy Regeant keeps deleting what ever I put... I feel it’s intentional. Samkeyta (talk) 04:30, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

It is reasonable for him to remove people from the list who are not notable enough for an article. If they are not notable enough for an article of their own, then they could be considered not notable enough for the list. See Wikipedia:Notability (people) for what makes a person notable enough for an article. I was allowing a lower standard, but now that the list is getting long the standard should be higher. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:37, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

If you have some publication about Saint Paul's you can put it in the St. Paul's School, Darjeeling#External links for now. Maybe I will move them to a new section called "Further reading". Or you can mention it here or on the talk page and I will figure it out. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:37, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Everything in the alumni section has been removed Samkeyta (talk) 13:34, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Can you reinstate it Samkeyta (talk) 13:35, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

As you said I did put ciatation... all has been removed Samkeyta (talk) 13:38, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

I worked really hard ... to find citations and it’s just removed... disappointed. Samkeyta (talk) 13:44, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Like Major Palit he got one of the highest gallantry award he is also not notable. Strange Samkeyta (talk) 13:46, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

They are not gone. Use this link to see what was removed. Use this link to see it the way it was. I made a copy in User:Samkeyta/sandbox. Click on any of the red links and start an article. Make sure they are notable enough. I will see if I can restore any. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 15:42, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Please restore it... thank you Samkeyta (talk) 16:14, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Some had Wikipedia page. Samkeyta (talk) 16:21, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

WP:THEREISNODEADLINE I am still waking up here. I will look at it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:25, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

I added some of the ones with articles back with citations. The ones without articles you should just create articles for. Go to User:Samkeyta/sandbox. Find one who should have an article. Write a short article. You can use the citations you found for each. Then add them back to the article. I see you use your mobile phone for editing a lot. I do not know how to create articles from a mobile phone. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 22:41, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lawrence_School,_Sanawar Please check this ... can you help this school has so many notable without citations.... help me create the section like this school in notable has lots of section Samkeyta (talk) 15:50, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

I write an article and upload in the web Samkeyta (talk) 15:51, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Or create a Wikipedia for them Samkeyta (talk) 15:53, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

You just put "===" to either side of the title. See Help:Section#Creation and numbering of sections. I am busy tonight and cannot work on the article now. What is the title of the article you wish to write? If you can figure it out, just add it to the end of User:Samkeyta/sandbox and I will add it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 02:07, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Theodore Morell

A CATEGORY requires information in the article that supports the cat. If you were removing Category:Dr. Feelgoods, I would support you. But a "See also" entry is simply a recommendation to the reader of another article which is is in some way related to the present article. Whether or not Morell was ever called a "Dr. Feelgood" or not, the connection between them, if not direct, is there. Please stop edit warring, and if you continue to disagree, mount your argument on the article's talk page. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:44, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Go here. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:53, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

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Hi Richard. Would you mind reviewing your closure as you haven't deal with the revised question...--Jack Upland (talk) 03:52, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

@Jack Upland: done. A little more involved then I thought. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:31, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

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MOS:PEOPLANG

First, my comments here should not be taken as a criticism of your editing, merely a note about my point-of-view...Regarding capitalization of Black/White and this edit: I have never heard a white American call themselves European. I've heard plenty call themselves white. In my reading of MOS:PEOPLANG, it seems that both White/white are acceptable, as are Black/black, even so far as mixing Black/white or black/White. IMHO, it says a lot about the editor (I'm thinking of a particular editor who has changed thousands of instances of Black to black) when they go changing Black to black or white to White, but so far as the end content goes, it makes little difference. My thought is that it's better to just let it go: if you change White to white but leave Black as Black the White Supremacists will jump on it and claim that WP is biased. So I just let them have their little moment of "triumph" and move on. My personal practice as whether I capitalize both colors is definitely inconsistent, lol. Thanks for all your efforts and happy editing! Jacona (talk) 14:24, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Yea, it is totally from my viewpoint. I do not see people with white skin identifying as "White". They first think of themselves by either their nationality (American. British, etc.) or their ancestors (German, Irish, Scottish, etc.). If you confront/prompt them with "Your White!", they will say sure, but it is not how most would organically identify. I was looking at the white people article and the internet in general and it is inconsistent. But it is just my viewpoint. I probably will not push it more. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 15:42, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Like I said, I'm not criticizing, just talking, more for my own sake than yours. Thanks for listening! Jacona (talk) 15:50, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Regarding your 'Ithaca' disambiguation revert

I understand about moving it into 'Other uses' due to a documentary technically not being fiction. I would however ask whether it might be more useful to rename the current 'Fiction' section to 'In popular culture'. What are your thoughts on that?

I'm a little less clear on the need to provide a citation, because WP:CULTURALREFS refers to whether or not a given citation is an appropriate source for a Wikipedia entry. It does not seem to be relevant to whether a topic itself is worthy for entry on a disambiguation page, nor whether such worthiness is determined by the provision of a citation. But even if working on the assumption that you are correct (and I would appreciate your further clarification of this), where do you want me to physically provide that citation? None of the other entries have one provided on the disambiguation page, so I'm not quite sure where you mean? And there is no Wikipedia page existing for the documentary currently, so I can't rely on any citations there. But other entries there are the same as mine in terms of not having citations, such as "Ithaka, a young-adult novel by Adèle Geras" where the link points to the Adèle Geras entry rather than any kind of entry dedicated to her novel Ithaka itself (because one does not exist).

Thanks in advance for your further assistance.

REF: [7]https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ithaca_(disambiguation)&diff=next&oldid=1092140847 lheydon (talk) 02:42, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

@Lheydon: I did a little research and discovered you are right and I was wrong! See Wikipedia:Disambiguation#What not to include and it specifically mentions to not include citations. The requirement is that item is "defined" in the linked article and Ithaca is. I have restored your entry and decided to gave it its own subsection, "Films". WP:CULTURALREFS covers if the documentary should be included in Assange's article and technically it should have such a citation, but only if anyone challenges it and I am not going to do that, so it is fine for now. If it gets removed from the article (not likely) then it gets removed from the disambiguation page as well. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 03:27, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Richard-of-Earth, awesome no problem. I'll also add a citation for Ithaca within the Julian Assange article while I'm at it, is there any preference for which kind of source is best? Such as the movie's official website or independent reviews from an online newspaper etc? lheydon (talk) 03:53, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

@Lheydon: independent reviews from an online newspaper. You are aware there is a Draft:Ithaka (film) article you could add to if you are inclined. In its current form, it is not likely to be moved to the main space. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 03:57, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

@Richard-of-Earth, cool I'll just add a review. I'm not keen enough to add to the draft article itself, I generally just have a personal rule-of-thumb that I will add basic entries for things I go to look up on Wikipedia and find aren't already covered there. Thanks for your help! lheydon (talk) 04:10, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

@Richard-of-Earth, P.S. I'm not sure how to insert the citation into the 'Further reading \ Films' section in a way where it also appears listed as a source in the 'References' section. Feel free to correct my edit there if that needs to be achieved.

REF: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange#Films lheydon (talk) 04:23, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Oh. That's in the further reading section. Somehow I thought it was in a cultural references section. Stuff in the further reading section do not need a citation. I will remove that. It will be in the article history if we need it later. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 04:57, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Why the 2019 El Paso Shooting is a Columbine copycat crime

I brough up this article ( https://www.bellingcat.com/news/americas/2019/08/04/the-el-paso-shooting-and-the-gamification-of-terror/ ) as justification for why the El Paso shooting is a Columbine high school massacre copycat crime. The article does mention the Columbine shooting and how it served as a template for mass shootings like what happened Christchurch, Powal and El Paso.

Razzamatazz Buckshank (talk) 08:58, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

cool. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 17:25, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Question

Hello Richard of Earth can you do me a small favor please? Shktriib1 (talk) 18:24, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

@Shktriib1: What did you have in mind? Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:30, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Can you revert this revision please? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=North_Miami_Senior_High_School&type=revision&diff=1107193782&oldid=1106857099 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:206:301:4A90:7D2A:D397:5ACF:14E3 (talk) 19:18, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Sorry I accidently logged out and was unregistered when I sent you this link.--Shktriib1 (talk) 19:32, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

See North Miami Senior High School#Discussion Richard-of-Earth (talk) 20:13, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

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Deletion w/o cause?

You removed information about Loren Boebert from the article about her with no info except mentioning Salon.com, and referring to a page with no information about Salon.com in it. It is certainly not a deprecated source, if jthat's what you're inferring. Did you read the Salon article? Thanks!Activist (talk) 06:50, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

No I did not read the article as that was not the point. I linked WP:SALON, however I meant to link WP:SALON.COM, where it states "Editors consider Salon biased or opinionated, and its statements should be attributed." My mistake. However the information was put back with additional citations and attribution in the prose and so, my objections were satisfied. I made this point in Talk:Lauren Boebert#Shooters grill and staff treatment. where this subject should be addressed. I am neutral on its inclusion as long as it is well attributed. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:04, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Cape Negro

Why are you changing Cape Negro links to Eel Bay links? Mjroots (talk) 06:24, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

See the article. The name was changed. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:39, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

OK, but historically it was Cape Negro and not Eel Bay. Therefore links should not be changed when talking about the past. We do not rewrite history. Please revert your edits. Mjroots (talk) 05:02, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

The name of the community has nothing to do with the history of shipwrecks. The names are there to simply say where they sank. In places where it makes a difference, I left he original name. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Cape_Negro,_Nova_Scotia Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:09, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

@Davidships:@Mjroots: I have been informed that the name change applies to the community, but not the island itself. I have self reverted most of the name changes. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 23:03, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, Richard. Mjroots (talk) 05:09, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Re help with Mark Reed sculptor

Dear Richard, Thank you so much for your advice and tagging with regards the problems with Mark Reed - sculptor page. I am terribly sorry for the delay in getting back to you to thank you but unfortunately I succumbed to flu over the Easter weekend and feel so terrible that I didn't get back to you immediately. I am in awe of people like you who give so feely of their time .

I was stupidly unaware that my additions to the Mark Reed sculptor page were contravening COI rules on Wikipedia as the wife of the sculptor for 5 years now, I genuinely didn't want to advertise on the site and can completely see that my viewpoint could be skewed by my relationship with him in the last few years. He has many press, magazines and third party articles about him, particularly in relationship to his more recent work, where he made a wave sculpture in Norwich cathedral ( 2021)  in conjunction with the Natural History Museum visit of Dippy on Tour about climate change visited by over 234,605 visitors and raised over £2,800 for Cathedral Charities. 

Also a tree sculpture for the Queen Elizabeth Hospital NHS Trust Kings Lynn Garden of Life at the Macmillan Centre ther last year which he completed for a not even cost price of materials as this piece was of personal importance to him as his first child was born at the hospital and he lost his father to cancer there. Each leaf can be engraved thus is raising funds for the League of Friends and Macmillan. These were the two pieces that I wanted to add and scrap large parts of the previous article but having now edited for a considerable amount of time it is so difficult to learn from scratch again, especially as in this period ,so much seems to have changed. I would be honoured and massively grateful if you would accept my apology for being rather naïve. I honestly did not mean to use Wikipedia as an advertising vehicle and didn't know ( stupidly) that I was doing anything wrong. He has a wealth of news and magazine sources on these pieces in particular and I would be enormously grateful if you would consider editing the page , I realise that there is a huge amount that needs to be changed and would really love your advice as I don't want to contravene any Wikipedia guidelines. . Am I correct in saying that I put an edit request on the talk page and then if considered that this goes on an edit review? I would relish your help and thank you once again for all your help ( both past and present) and advice, Many thanks Hannah — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hannahlucy100 (talk • contribs) 18:30, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Re Mark Reed (sculptor)

Dear Richard, Many thanks for your invaluable help with editing Mark Reed (sculptor). I have completely taken on board your comments and suggestions, I didn't realise that I was contravening Wikipedia rules and I would be honoured and massively grateful if you would accept my apology for being rather naïve. I have started a talk page where I am beginning a series of edit requests and would be honoured and extremely grateful if you you would be able to advise me if the changes I am making are in the right direction. Many thanks again and I am in awe of people like you who give so feely of their time . With best wishes Hannah Hannahlucy100 (talk) 08:43, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Dear Richard,

I have further edited Mark Reed (sculptor) and am enormously grateful for your help. As I said before, I cannot express how much I value your opinion.

Kind Regards

Hannah Hannahlucy100 (talk) 10:17, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Re Mark Reed (Sculptor)

Dear Richard, I really appreciate all of your help with editing this page and value your opinion. I was wondering whether you might be able to cast your eye over some of the changes I have asked for and see if you might be able to help. They are on the talk section of the above page. Also, I wanted to take off some of ( too many ) images and add some relevant to the additional text, however, I uploaded them onto Wikipedia and now don't seem able to add them to the page they are: File:Wave sculpture installation by Mark Reed during flood at Norwich Cathedral , Natural History Museum's Dippy on Tour.jpg I am incredibly grateful for your help and the generosity of your time. kind Regards Hannah Hannahlucy100 (talk) 14:18, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Re Mark Reed (sculptor)

Dear Richard, You may remember I asked for your help with the above page as I was unaware that my additions were contravening COI rules on Wikipedia, I genuinely don't want to use the site as an advertising vehicle and I saw how my relationship with the sculptor could skew the viewpoint. You very kindly offered help and advice for which I am enormously grateful. As you know, I have been placing edit requests on the Talk page and have had huge amounts of help both from yourself and your fellow editors. However, since 6th June none of my edit requests have been answered and I don't want to just keep adding edit requests in case they are overwhelming, while I have been extremely fortunate in the past as they have been answered very quickly. Am I doing something wrong or are there just huge amounts of edits that need to be worked through and hence this delay? I would really value your help as the sculptor has just had many more press, magazine and third party articles about him in relation to his new work which I would like to add in the edit requests but, as I say, I don't want to just keep adding more and more edit requests when the former ones remain unanswered. I would relish your help and thank you once again for all your help and advice which has been extraordinarily helpful. I am in awe of people like yourself who give so freely of their time. Kind Regards Hannah Hannahlucy100 (talk) 08:30, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

@Hannahlucy100: I approved your changes, go ahead and make them. I will review them again after your done. If you are interested, go to WP:Dashboard#Requested edits to see the backlog for edit requests. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 03:36, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Dear Richard, you are an absolute hero, thank you so very very much for all your help. I've had a look at the requested edits page and my goodness you are so busy, I didn't mean to hassle you and am very grateful for your help, especially as it is giving so freely of your time.

I haven't had a chance to edit until today as I've been away visiting University open days with my son and when I went to make the changes today, I found that the whole page has been edited and the entire first paragraph from Sculpture has been removed. When I tried to make the changes you approved, it has caused an edit conflict so I really don't know what to do and would appreciate your help with this.

The previous first paragraph read:

Reed's sculptures have nature and his place within it at its roots, with his education in engineering and biology, he is interested in the workings of natural structures and the way they contribute to the artistic view of a plant or animal. With this knowledge, within Mark's work, trees become tables, and natural forms are channelled to become functional items in bronze, aluminium or forged steel. Mark is intrigued by intangible configurations as well, particularly in how an entity exists as an component in a hierarchy of cooperatives. In his bronze Life Leaf(2000) a solitary leaf is the "life giver", it gives energy to the entire tree, whilst being recycled into the organism. The rooks in Secret Garden Door are a group descending on the tree with giant spring nests, and therefore indicating the death of winter and new life for a tree. Meanwhile, there is a looking forward momentum in Reed's work, the door opens into the future or the viewers' imagination, the eroded holes within the leaf allow shards of life to permeate through.

I wanted to add:

the citation https://www.edp24.co.uk/things-to-do/20645791.see-stunning-wave-sculpture-norwich-cathedral/ Emma Lee, 14th August 2021 Eastern daily Press publisher Archant after line 1, which you very kindly approved.

Remove the sentence: With this knowledge, within Mark's work, trees become tables, and natural forms are channelled to become functional items in bronze, aluminium or forged steel. Again, which you approved.

Change: Mark is intrigued by intangible configurations as well, particularly in how an entity exists as an component in a hierarchy of cooperatives." to: "Reed is intrigued by intangible configurations as well, particularly in how an entity exists as an component in a hierarchy of collectives and this was evidenced in Reed's monumental immersive breaking Wave of 3,000 fish. The sculpture, created for The Natural History Museum's Dippy on Tour at Norwich Cathedral was at first glance an installation of great beauty, but litter was scattered amongst the fish- a striking reminder of the damage currently being done to our planet. The piece was a meditation of life on earth, from its origins in very distant past to our own day, a reminder of the total dependence all life on this planet has on the generative powers of water and an admonition to heed the warnings of nature. Which you had kindly approved.

I was also about to ask if you could remove "The rooks in Secret Garden Door are a group descending on the tree with giant spring nests, and therefore indicating the death of winter and new life for a tree. Meanwhile, there is a looking forward momentum in Reed's work, the door opens into the future or the viewers' imagination, the eroded holes within the leaf allow shards of life to permeate through." in an edit request , but since the whole paragraph has been removed I don't know how I do this...

Furthermore, I wanted to add https://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/things-to-do/22338798.want-piece-dippy-exhibition-chance/ Sarah Burgess Norwich Evening News 16th October 2021 Publisher Archant as a citation, but again as the paragraph doesn't exist I can't ask for that .

The editor Throast has removed all the images save Arbour Metallum, and I completely agree that there were too many images as previously discussed but I really wanted to add the image of the Wave sculpture which is in Wikimedia as Mark Reed during flood at Norwich Cathedral , Natural History Museum's Dippy on Tour.jpg as I feel it is a more updated image of more relevant work and so if you believe that I should also remove the image of the Arbour Metallum and exchange for this that would be brilliant, I will be utterly guided by your knowledge and experience.

I'm so sorry to ask (again)for your help but don't know how to proceed with the changes you have approved as it doesn't seem possible to do from my end.

Massive massive thanks again for your invaluable help. Mr Reed is about to have a very significant piece announced and displayed at Wimbledon AELTC and has already had interviews with the New York Times in preparation for the works' display from 3rd July and I would be eternally grateful for your help with this.

Kind Regards

Hannah Hannahlucy100 (talk) 18:07, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Dera Richard, update, I have now made the changes and sorry to be a panic Annie and stressing out.... I have asked for some more edits and am very very worried that the whole page is too close to me and I'm not subjective, please can you advise on what I need to do to stop any unsubstantiated subjective opinions on Reed's work and make sure it doesn't come across as advertising, I genuinely don't want it be this. I really really really want it be a genuine Wikipedia article on Mark Reed and would value you being utterly brutal on it to make it so. Please tell me how I can do this, with vey kind and appreciative regards Hannah — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hannahlucy100 (talk • contribs) 20:35, 26 June 2023 (UTC) Dear Richard, Many thanks for all your editorial help, I have changed the edit requested on 26/6/23 to reflect the advice of another editor that the edit request was a mess format wise and added further references to support the edit request. As always, I am extremely grateful for any help and advice that you can impart and am very grateful for all your time with this article. Kind Regards Hannah — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hannahlucy100 (talk • contribs) 10:42, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Dear Richard of Earth, Thank you so much for all your incredible kindness and help with editing Mark Reed (sculptor). I have been floundering somewhat and really appreciate your knowledge and editorial excellence in helping me. Thank you so much again, Hannah Hannahlucy100 (talk) 16:31, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

bruh he wrote about the slurs

That's right. I saw you, Richard.

Same lol — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C5:300:4E01:8C0A:6972:F3D4:1053 (talk) 23:40, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Religious slur

Kindly don't restore the misleading edits of Captainjedi. He was earlier vandalizing the article with this account. He did same misleading removals earlier too. I wanted to report but have done now at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Julwiz. Editorkamran (talk) 07:29, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

Wasi'chu

Hi Just to say thanks for your scepticism about this word on the List of Terms for Ethnic Out-groups article! I ended up looking up into it a lot and the claimed etymology, and the whole story around it, turned out to be based on a myth. I have updated/rewritten the article significantly.... Atrapalhado (talk) 12:48, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for improving Wikipedia. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 04:37, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Mark Geragos

Since you have edited Mark Geragos in the past, perhaps you could take a look at its recent editing history. Note that an edit has been reverted several times for reasons that have nothing to do with actual content. 49.49.42.55 (talk) 23:18, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

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Reenactment of the century

Part of the short film is on YOUTUBE “O.J. MURDERS NICOLE AND RON” if you were curious 92.17.198.220 (talk) 17:11, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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