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Latest comment: 13 years ago95 comments45 people in discussion
Possible troll?
Axl, can you keep an eye on Dan56 (talk·contribs)? Quite possibly a troll seeing its continuously reverting my edits to BTW, without reading edit summaries. This one edits at your time. — Legolas(talk2me)04:59, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
HI, there again. Apologize since I was too busy with school the last month, but I finally got a comprehensive peer review right here. Would you like to assist me in accomplishing some of these tasks? Birdienest81 (talk) 06:20, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
You and Tibetan Prayer think that if there is a lot of information, then two articles. Im working on expansion as I visited the area over Semana Santa. Finding lots of info. Looks like Ill be keeping them separate.Thelmadatter (talk) 20:18, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your helpful suggestions — I responded at the Peer Review. ;) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 14:06, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Becoming a good Wikipedian
Thanks for your help and advice, Tbhotch. It seems that the two of us really are like police when it comes to those Oscar ceremony articles.
By the way, I'm trying to update my user main page so you (and other Wikipedians) can get to know me and my interests a little better. Do you have any tips on how I can make my User page better as an identificiation. Also is there any good tips on how I can become more helpfulas an editor on Wikipdia? I've known this website for seven years.Birdienest81 (talk) 03:29, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi there! I was glad to see you added Aquí no hay quien viva to the relevant wikiprojects. :) I'm not sure about the relevance of one of them, though - wikiproject:Soap Operas. As far as I understand Aquí no hay quien viva is not a soap opera. I would appreciate your reply. :) Ben Gershon (Talk) 19:13, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Hello Tbhotch! Hope you're doing well :) I just finished expanding (expanded, ce not done yet) Irresistible. Can you re-assess it for me and if possible, add alt? Thanks in advance =) Novice7 (talk) 06:55, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Confusion reigns! Trumpkin is not (yet?) indef blocked - Irvine22 is. They may be the same person but I don't think we know that yet, do we? Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:25, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
It makes more sense that you have bracketed it now, but I disagree that "it" could be confused for "I Got You", especially as she goes on to talk about I Got You. It's self explanatory that she is talking about Echo itself because of what comes after. calvin999 (talk) 01:47, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
After she references Echo, she says about Happy and I Got You, therefore she does. But whatever, it's fine as it is. BUT, why have you got rid of the S&M GA reviews??? Now I can't see what the things are that I need to do... calvin999 (talk) 01:57, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Oh right, okay. Also so you know, when I reverted your edit, I removed the extra "l" from the website address because the reference at the bottom of the article wasn't working, but when you reverted me, it also reverted the link being able to work, hence why you had to remove the "l" again. calvin999 (talk) 02:05, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Yes, the double didn't work, so when you reverted me, it went back to a double after I had made it a single, hence why you had change it back to single. calvin999 (talk) 02:10, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
I don't know how else to out it in plain and simple English lol.
# I reverted your edit of "Echo" to "it". I also changed "htmll" to"html"
# Then, you reverted my edit, changing "it" to "Echo" and in turn, "html" to "htmll"
# Hence, why you then had to change "htmll" to "html" in another edit afterwards because you hadn't seen that I had corrected the link already as it didn't work. lol calvin999 (talk) 02:21, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
He has paid another visit to my talk page: [1]. You removed his previous contribution to my talk page, so I thought you might be interested. Thanks much -- Foetusized (talk) 16:50, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks!
Thanks so much for all of the work you are doing with assessments/WikiProject Banner Shells, etc. I noticed many of your contributions to the Grammy lists. Keep up the great work--it does not go unnoticed! --Another Believer(Talk)20:37, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Thank you
The Minor Barnstar
Thanks so much for making sure that the articles I protect get the appropriate little padlock on them. I always seem to forget - and you always seem to be the one cleaning up after me. Risker (talk) 04:59, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Sheffield Wednesday F.C
The article used incorrect English. It had nothing at all to do with it being British English. A club however big is still a single object, which is why I tried to change "They" and other plural forms in the article. View other English clubs like Manchester United as an example. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BoomBoomPoo (talk • contribs) 07:55, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Absolutely not. Your English has become awesome. This comes as a sincere declaration (not just for pleasing you). Let me tell you that "Run the World" is the only song on the album that has those marching beats. The rest are mostly ballads in the vein of "Halo" and i am not joking. Jivesh • Talk2Me08:13, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Damnit! I missed it. I was afraid something like that would happen. I'm currently serving as a United States Peace Corps volunteer (English teacher) in the Kyrgyz Republic. As you may be aware, internet access in this part of the world is rather spotty and unreliable (and surprisingly expensive). I try to keep up with Wiki but it's hard to do so when I don't even check my email for about a week at a time. Thank you very much for alerting me to the fact. I put a lot of effort into that article on Egyptian literature and I'm glad that it's finally had it's day in the sun.
Hi, thanks for fixing. I'll go through the rest of the pages in that set (in my userspace) to ensure the template doesn't appear at the bottom. Not something I'd ever have picked up myself. Tony(talk) 03:59, 12 June 2011 (UTC) PS, Oh, I like "This user believes any universe would be a happier, safer and saner place if there were no religion." Have you visited any of the large number of vids of Christopher Hitchens in debate and interview, on YouTube? Tony(talk)04:37, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Huh I was literally looking at the WP:ALBUM assessment criteria to see if the article on [[]] matched them, when you downgraded the article to C-class, citing a lack of supporting materials. (referencing and citation and coverage and accuracy were not checked, but the article is pretty short, so you can see that citations exist, they are to reliable sources, and the coverage extends about as far as it can on the topic.) What supporting materials do you think need to be added? A sound sample to display the world music influences? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:24, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Coverage You are correct that the article is short and will certainly stay that way, but there is a mention of critical reception from The Village Voice. Wikipedia:Notability (music) (currently) states that albums are notable "with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject... In general, if the musician or ensemble is notable, and if the album in question has been mentioned in multiple reliable sources, then their officially released albums may have sufficient notability to have individual articles on Wikipedia." There are several outlets that reported the release of the album and one that reviewed it, so it might be a close one on notability, but the sources exist. As far as background goes, I could easily get material on the duo's collaboration and the tour to contextualize the recording. There are several pictures on Commons that could be added to enhance the article as well. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:44, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Gah, I have another review? I tend to forget them in the last minute. Don't worry, "Ironic" has basic MOS issues. As for "Halo" I will take a look, this will be good as I haven't been to most Yonka articles in recent times. (Jivesh does have a WP:OWN kinda behavior towards them.). Btw, if you could comment in the GTC, it will be good. Heaven knows whether they would really need the song articles to be included. — Legolas(talk2me)06:29, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
"Halo" looks strong, but this troll has returned, so no, be prepared for one very strong oppose from him because "Halo" is not on par with "Hey Jude", the crappiest article if I have ever seen. — Legolas(talk2me)06:33, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
lol. I've not read "Hey Jude", but after 4 years of its last review it may be deserves to be at FARC, fans destroy everything they touch. Anyway I have a valid and solid argument against him, which is obvious: There are huge difference between "Hey Jude" and "Halo", the most important, 41 years of difference. His last victim, Cirt, is dealing with him. By the Way, I left a comment at YCD GTC. ۞Tbhotch™ & (ↄ), Problems with my English?06:39, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
You know what is his exact problem? He models a few articles as the best, and would refuse to budge from them, if a similar themed article comes, but with a little different design or content. Its orthodoxy to the core. Some comments he left for Cirt are good, some are the same bull-shit. Pray he never comes in front of me with the crappy view during "Bad Romance"'s FAC, or Imma kill a a bitch. PS I added all the alt text for the YCD GTC articles. Btw, I never get to see you around nowadays, training for future admin eh? :P — Legolas(talk2me)06:47, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
What would you expect from a "retired editor" who comments that "[the reason for my retirement is] a group of loosely organized amateurs [who] can't produce anything close to the quality of disciplined professionals."—a pseudoprofessional "editor". His best comment was that Every taste better... had many quotes, but anyone could note the same. If he wants "professional articles" I'd recommend him to start showing us, the loosy unorganized amateurs, what is a professional article.
"Bad Romance" to FAC? When you nominate it to that queue 58etc will be blocked from editing (I hope it :p). I've been training to be an admin since some time ago, but, although there are many editors who wants me to be an admin (including me), there are many many many reasons why WP:RFA/Tbhotch will be a redlink the next two to four years, one of them is in my signature on a Zinnwaldite (#2C1608) font. ۞Tbhotch™ & (ↄ), Problems with my English?07:01, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Tee hee, you do know 56etc is a sock of Piano non troppo (talk·contribs) right? If he continues the same douchebaggery, this time I will ask for SPI and get him blocked. Anyways, "Ironic" GAC will be done soon. I just hope that damn Madonna list and that GTC passes so that I can move with "Like a Prayer". Its lying in the deep for so long. Btw, Gaga's recent blue-wig look is so horny! :P — Legolas(talk2me)07:08, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Unfortunately there are not "valid" reasons to block 56[random characters] from editing. It can be considered as an alternative account, and remember that CheckUser is not for fishing, so the account can be banned from FAC proccess only. You'll see that "A&N by Madonna" will pass its FLC (unless an editor has the same concerns as me, which you can easily explain), and that the "YCD GTC" will be approved as well.
You know its really time to have another recent song as FA. "4 Minutes" has been grabbing that title for too long IMO. As for A&N by Madonna, TRM had an interesting insight, why not make it a {{dynamic list}} and come to think of it, it is really that! What do you think? And damn, you took 5 months with "Ironic"? What were you missing? A brokewn right hand, lol. — Legolas(talk2me)08:24, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
"4 minutes" was promoted in 2009. Since then some things has changed on the FAC process. I do not remember the last album/song promoted to FA (I guess it is Maya (M.I.A. album)). The main problem of the dynamic list system is that they won't be never complete (A&N will be complete sometime in the future); it may not be accepted by the community because it may never be stable enough (I do not think so). Why I took 5-6 months to clean-up "Ironic"? I do not know, Perhaps I was afraid of the "Linguistic usage disputes" section, what I should do, where I can get all this material. Also, I believe "Ironic" has its own legacy—although before 2010 I heard the song very few times, I liked it since the very first time I heard it in late 90's—I do not know of I'd manage to do a complete and well written article or if I were able to search thoroughly. That's why it took me some time. I broke my left hand when I was 4, and my right hand when I was 6, FYI. ۞Tbhotch™ & (ↄ), Problems with my English?00:14, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikimedia México
Hey.. youre in Mexico City, right? Im sure Ive mentioned Wikimedia México on your page before. We are having a meeting on Saturday 18 June if you would like to join us. Let me know by email.Thelmadatter (talk) 23:14, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Archives
You're welcome. You can manually archive live webpages at [2] and search for archives of dead links at [3] and [4]. And yes, isn't that picture just amazing? Adabow (talk · contribs) 04:27, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
I considered that image, but the wine and cheese had a bit more "wow factor". Hehe, if you have trouble archiving, I'm more than happy to help any time. Adabow (talk · contribs) 04:41, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Palazzolo
Hi Tbhotch
You commented on Palazzolo before, so I want to bring your attention to a new BLPN section I have presented at - Neutral BLP for Palazzolo
I was advised by an editor (after a long wiki journey) to give a few pithy examples of what has been written that is wrong, and then offer an alternative BLP, which I have done.
But you gave an "only warning" notice for edit warring, which is going on right now. The IP user is removing, for no apparent reason, useful information from the "Small Soldiers" article. [5]Silvercitychristmasisland (talk) 00:17, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Your first post was cruel. Right now I'm reconsidering my RFA stuff, is incredibe how people wants the truth, and when you give it to them they get offend and rate you as the worst of the worst; this is the perfect userbox. Anyway, they are the only that don't move on.
That's tough. You can probably say "Black-and-white image of cylindrical shapes, intertwined with each other, to form a trough like structure." Sorry about the first post, obviously wasn't my intention to annoy you with that asshole Charlie. — Legolas(talk2me)07:09, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
I believe you semi-protected this one once before. I'm still at edit war with IPs who keep changing the article to Downes' version of reality, as sourced to his blog, rather than to press reports. Since I'm involved, I should not be imposing semi-protection. Could you have another look? --Orange Mike | Talk16:56, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
The Human Centipede (First Sequence) is currently a featured article candidate
Hi there, thanks for all the helpful edits you have contributed to The Human Centipede article, I thought I'd let you know that the article is currently a featured article candidate!
At the moment I'm trying my best to make positive changes to the article based upon the comments and suggestions on the article review, but any help with this would really be appreciated. The featured article review is here and if you have any spare time it would be really cool if you could have a look at the comments and help make sure the article is meeting the standards that are asked of a featured article. Plus if there's anything you think you can do to help improve the article, or anything important that it's missing, please do go ahead and make the changes!
You seem to ask for help with your English in the signature, so I'll bring this up. In this edit, you seem to feel like something was wrong with the tone or wording of the change. I don't see a problem with it. What part did you think was inappropriate?—Kww(talk) 02:57, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
Whee, you're quick off the mark! I change the name of a template and go to remove the SFD tag from it and get an edit conflict. You must have removed the tag only a few seconds after I did the move! Grutness...wha?03:05, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
I made the edit because it was breaking news on yahoo. I do not believe it warranted a warning. It was yahoo's mistake and my mistake for not verifying the information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TroyEditor (talk • contribs) 19:49, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Apparently would rather not comment ever and just revert your and my edits on Garden strawberry (and same content onto Fisetin). Doesn't seem to even bother responding to me on his talk-page about it. Sigh. DMacks (talk) 00:20, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
John A. Macdonald
Where is the decision that John A. Macdonald won't be on the main page for July 1 (Canada Day)? --Skeezix1000 (talk) 14:26, 30 June 2011 (UTC) - Never mind, all settled. Cheers, --Skeezix1000 (talk) 16:12, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
July 2011
Latest comment: 13 years ago90 comments38 people in discussion
Reassessment
Hi can you assess this article, Chiranjeevi. I had been working in improving this article for the past few months. I submitted a peer-review for this one but still now nobody has reviewed it. Commander(Ping Me)05:13, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
I will not nominate anyone unless I believe they have a firm commitment to improving Wikipedia. For the record, this rarely happens.
Fastily would like to nominate you to become an administrator. Please visit Wikipedia:Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact Fastily to accept or decline the nomination. A page will then be created for your nomination at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Tbhotch. If you accept the nomination, you must state and sign your acceptance. You may also choose to make a statement and/or answer the optional questions to supplement the information your nominator has given. Once you are satisfied with the page, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.
In light of the seemingly endless disputes over their respective titles, a neutral mediator has crafted a proposal to rename the two major abortion articles (pro-life/anti-abortion movement, and pro-choice/abortion rights movement) to completely new names. The idea, which is located here, is currently open for opinions. As you have been a contributor in the past to at least one of the articles, your thoughts on the matter would be appreciated.
The hope is that, if a consensus can be reached on the article titles, the energy that has been spent debating the titles of the articles here and here can be better spent giving both articles some much needed improvement to their content. Please take some time to read the proposal and weigh in on the matter. Even if your opinion is simple indifference, that opinion would be valuable to have posted.
To avoid accusations that this posting violates WP:CANVASS, this posting is being made to every non-anon editor who has edited either page since 1 July 2010, irrespective of possible previous participation at the mediation page. HuskyHuskie (talk) 20:02, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
BiggestLittleMonster
Axl, this one very much seems like a sock of some previous user, let's keep an eye on him/her. My suspicions were when the first edit was to create his own page, copying your userpage. (Lol, it didn't even change the name from Axel). — Legolas(talk2me)05:35, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
I've done a number of edits tonight, and you come up and, without specifying which one, flag me for what you consider abusive conduct. I'd like you to return to my page and state which articles you are flagging. --Starcade (talk) 06:47, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
OK, you've done that. Now I have a question I started on my own talk page, with additional information here:
Hmmm. How does one attribute content from actually having played the game, then? And is it not important, therefore, to state the distinct differences in player-elimination/Game Over conditions between the various versions of Final Fantasy (as well as the necessary expansions for five of the jobs in XI). You are effectively, at this point, asking me to delete references to VII, IX, X, XI, XII, and XIII, then. I would probably be also forced, under the same rules, to delete a number of statements in the Who Wants to be a Millionaire:Play It page, since they also are from direct experience with the content. --Starcade (talk) 06:55, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Given this, you might as well just toss every edit I made on every Final Fantasy page tonight. I find the stand utterly silly, as it basically would require me to attribute that you can sell items as well as buy them in FF XIII. (You've done complete reverts on every edit I made on that page, and XIV, even though it is well-known that the game is horribly incomplete and still does not charge a monthly fee until it is deemed worthy of one (at some unknown date).) At this point, you might as well reverse them all (VII, IX, X, XI, XII, XIII, and XIV)! --Starcade (talk) 07:07, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
It's obvious that, then, I do not understand how Wikipedia works at all, then. I guess I should stop editing. I probably have already drawn administrative review for the seven articles I've had reverted tonight. Christ, if I have to put considered-reliable sources on everything that I put in, then, frankly, I could probably bounce almost every article I read on the service. --Starcade (talk) 07:16, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
en-2???
Bloody hell mate, I don't know what you call an intermediate level of English, but I've come across many (far too many) native English speakers who would have difficulty matching your level of fluency. Don't put yourself down! Regards TonywaltonTalk01:45, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Please report me immediately anywhere you want. I am only acting in the interest of the Wikimedia foundation. The IOC from Lausanne contacted the Wikimedia foundation and this is the opinion of the legal counsel of the Wikimedia foundation that this logo passes the threshold of originality. The message from the IOC is covered by an OTRS ticket so please refer to the OTRS database if you want to read it. This discussion is well documented on Commons where some guys tried to upload the logo and where it was deleted. Hektor (talk) 07:34, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
Reported that girl, and for the second, the name is really a big quack, but beside it and Gaga articles, we need more that that for a SPI. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.04:50, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Thought so, waiting nevertheless for the obvious genre changes. Do you know what to do when a sock confesses to sokcing? Check my talk page for MindyHall. — Legolas(talk2me)04:52, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
And why (s)he is not blocked? It confessed, it should be blocked as the other accounts. Charlie will confess attacking my page, and only via IPs. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.04:56, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
SPI is still open and I informed them. CU found some similarities based on behavior. More concern is the first user continuing the attacks. Good that you raise an AIV. — Legolas(talk2me)04:58, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Either way, a block is eminent. I was checking the user's previous history, its littered with name-calling, and foul-mouthing anything she doesn't like. Was even blocked before for personal attacks. Hope its of a longer duration this time. And she better not try socking, I'm the last person she wants to do that. — Legolas(talk2me)05:19, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Axl, can you revert back to the article to the original state, with the neutrality tag? I have raised a discussion on the talk page and I dont wanna break 3RR. — Legolas(talk2me)05:31, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Admin Fastily indef'd the user. I do have a hunch that we haven't seen the last of her though. Hope she doesnt end up like another CharlieJS13. — Legolas(talk2me)05:47, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
I created it a week ago, and what I have now? An oppose vote, unanswered requests from copy-edits and people not interesed in the article, enough to close it. FAC process is extremely exaggerated, even RFA is easier. The only way I can have that article in the eyes of people is requesting them personally to review it, something that I'm not going to do. I prefer having GAs, FLs and FTs, before a FA, being a delegate does not give you the right to act like a bitch. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.02:12, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Don't give up
Don't give up on FAC, not yet. You're a good contributor to Wikipedia and shoould stay around. There are some issues in the FAC nomination process and some editors but you must stay. --Lecen (talk) 03:22, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Korrekshun
Since the terms and conditions require me to do so, I'm noting this fix in a comment about some nice lady whose name reminds me of a Roman emperor. Ugh, English is such a messy language. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:37, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
I have responded to your queries on the review page. I have put a strike through points you have addressed, ones without a strike still need to be addressed.Calvin • 99922:31, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Halo
I made a couple of changes in hope that the article can finaly get through FAC. I removed Bill Lamb's article, as he has no work in reliable sources in his bio, and I replaced Yahoo! (which I think is reliable) with The Sun, which has been determined as reliable. I have not noted this on the FAC page, as I thought I'd leave that to you. Good luck! —Adabow (talk · contribs) 23:57, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello Tbhotch. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Shwikar Khanum Effendi, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Subject might be important/significant / use WP:PROD or WP:AFD instead to allow other editors to participate in this decision. Thank you. — Malik ShabazzTalk/Stalk06:44, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Jul 22
Hi Tbhotch. Think that notice you just put on Roux's talk page should be July 22 not June 22. :) Feel free to blank this, just didn't think you might see it if I put it on Roux's page. Syrthiss (talk) 15:19, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Would you like to add your thoughts to a discussion regarding cited material and synthesis for the article Speak Now? There have been numerous reverts and revision recently. Dan56 (talk) 17:22, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Excuse me? Am I not understanding something? All of those types of banners have an importance tag that indicates a page's importance to the project. Without it, it will eventually say, "This page has not been rated on the scale of importance" (or "importance scale", you get the idea) and be categorized as unknown importance. Can you explain why you insist on its removal? CycloneGU (talk) 01:11, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Looking over the countries Wikiproject, I think I'm getting a clue on this now. I don't see any importance indication on that article chart by quality like with other Wikiprojects. Is it not used AT ALL in the entire project? CycloneGU (talk) 01:17, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Reply copied here, I ask for replies on the same talk page as conversation began. We also posted some comments at the same time.
I do not speak English so I cannot make you understand that not all the projects have "importance scale". If youu check the Template:WikiProject Countries you will see that it only consists of the next:
So it's not used at all in the entire WikiProject. I had thought that country articles would all be top importance, and other articles that are not countries themselves but still in the project would be rated otherwise, but if there are no other types of pages, I see why it's not used. CycloneGU (talk) 01:20, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
I forgot to mention that I was correcting your comment :( Sorry Tbhotch. Hope it's okay. Also, the modification, I hope it's okay too :) I have a gut feeling that the user edits after logging out.. Novice7 (talk) 08:00, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Don't worry, I do not believe somebody will be reverting you. Perhaps is him but who knows, when you mess with their "work" they start harassing you (*cough* Charlie *cough*), so for now let's prevent that that IP continue adding unsourced content. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.08:06, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Well, I remember once him (Nickyp88) saying at Talk:Born to Make You Happy#Bubblegum pop "I'm not looking for vandalism. ALL of britney's older music is bubblegum pop." The thread is not about him, but about an IP from Michigan. Nickyp is also from Michigan... As you said, we should wait and observe lol :D Novice7 (talk) 08:14, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
I've asked Nickyp88 about the case. If he replies that he didn't edit after logging out, I'll file an SPI :) Thanks, Novice7 (talk) 10:18, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
21 (Adele album)
I'd like to know why did you protected that page. Vandalism at time of protection was none, nor even enough to justify its indefinite semi-protection, not even for a few days. I'm making a formal request to you for unprotect it and do not do it again. We do not need another Yellowmonkey. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.04:27, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Protection removed. I know preemptive protection is not allowed, but at the time, due to significant vandalism of the singer's page (changing her name to "Adelephant", image-vandalism etc), I thought it may be a smart move. I may have been wrong. Either way, don't tell me to "not do it again". You're no one's boss. Orane(talk)08:04, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
The tools were not being used to my benefit— they were being used to the article's. The internet backlash against the singer made the news. And I've already stated that in hindsight, I may have been hasty in semi-protecting it. Either way, I'm not about to argue with you. Protection removed. Is there anything else I can do for you? Orane(talk)08:12, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Please help me. At the and of the day, I had to insert a photo on the page Ronald Reagan. Please do this for me: www.wikimedia.commons.org File:Ronald Reagan, hero of Hungary. Thanks: dea Derzsi Elekes Andor (talk) 08:27, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
I bid you adieu
I would like to say goodbye. You were a cool editor that helped me greatly with my articles/FLCs by leaving useful comments. Good luck with all of your editing/to do lists on here and I hope you can finally get the Halo article up to FA status. Crystal Clear x308:50, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
I just posted a comment to Cailil's talk page regarding an incident in which you are involved.
I'll start by noting that SPI is an area I haven't studied, so I am naive when it comes to identifying sockpuppets. However, my understanding is that we semiprotect when there are multiple editors vandalizing a page. In case there is just one, or two, blocking is preferred.
I see zero examples of vandalism edits.
I see only one editor with under 10,000 edits contributing. Which are the multiple sockpuppets?
Is it your belief that 2.220.204.70 is a sockpuppet? Again, emphasizing that I'm not good at spotting them, could you explain why you think so?
What am I missing?
Sorry if this comes across strongly, but my review of the editing at Van Tuong Nguyen convinces me that we've treated an IP very, very badly, and I hope some apologies are forthcoming. I haven't yet figured out who owes the apologies, I'm trying to gather facts.
I notice that your status bar says you are online. I will be going offline shortly, and be available only on a limited basis for the next two days. I'd like you to reverse the semi-protection for Van Tuong Nguyen, or understand why not. Can we resolve this in the next hour or so?--SPhilbrickT01:03, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello Tbhotch. I got your message. Here's my response:
Tbhotch: Okay, now we're getting somewhere. Why 10 countries? I think the more info the better. Plus, please don't be disrespectful by putting snide remarks like "creating accounts won't solve anything." You have to be respectful and gracious about these things.
I see. Thanks for the info. But I've seen other discographies with more than 10 countries. I still think the more the better and I still don't see what's wrong with 11 or 12 or 13 (as you mentioned). Do you want me to replace one of the smaller European countries? I don't want to ruin someone else's work, like some people have been doing with my edits. In that case, what do you think is the solution? How can we have 11 countries? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Canadianforever (talk • contribs) 00:03, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Tbhotch: I can't find where it says that there is a maximum limit of 10 countries. Please let me know where it states this. Thanks--Canadianforever! (talk) 00:43, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Ohhh! lol I was genuinely confused as heck when you reverted the article back to a redirect citing the AFD when you yourself voted to keep the article alive in the AFD. I completely forgot about the merger proposal. Sorry about the revert earlier. =) ~ [ Scott M. Howard ] ~ [ Talk ]:[ Contribs ] ~00:36, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Gustavo Cerati
I just wanted to "clean up" the talk page ... because I thought it was saturated. But now I realize that was a mistake. With respect to other editions that i have made in the article, these are fully backed by the rules of wikipedia and in no case are vandalism. By contrast, are contributions to the article. I said: what it says on the talk page is not supported by any standards, just is assumptions, besides which are also erroneous. 190.101.43.197 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:21, 26 July 2011 (UTC).
AfD What If
Hi. Would you mind commenting to a recently opened disussion, posted for the deletion of the article What If (Aaliyah song)? I've notified a couple of the article's main contributors and it'll help if an experienced editor would comment too. Dan56 (talk) 04:32, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Tbhotch! I saw what you said and, rather than adding the useless character sections on the Blue's Clues page and starting an edit war, I created an article containing a list of the characters on the show and made the "Characters" section on the page similar to the characters section on the Simpsons page. --Weemer (talk) 14:21, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
86.182.106.98 block
OK, my mistake. While you were posting your reply to AIV I was searching through the AN/I archives and found this. I've blocked the IP now. I still think this edit to the Imola article is an improvement, though!. Regards TonywaltonTalk01:16, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Removed all emotionally-loaded terms (be they "tragic" or "dreadful"). Added explicit links to the Ratzenberger and Senna pages. Looks OK to me, but please feel free to edit or revert if you wish. However simply reverting to 86.182's version may have been in-policy, see Wikipedia:BAN#Edits_by_and_on_behalf_of_banned_editors which states edits [by banned users]may be reverted without any further reason. This does not mean that obviously helpful edits (such as fixing typos or undoing vandalism) must be reverted just because they were made by a banned editor, but the presumption in ambiguous cases should be to revert. It does seem to be inconsistent with Wikipedia:BAN#Bans_apply_to_all_editing.2C_good_or_bad. This needs looking at but as it's 2:43am where I am I think I'll leave that till tomorrow... Regards TonywaltonTalk01:44, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Hey, just letting you know I didn't mean to revert your rvv, my browser is loading the article really slow so I must've clicked an old revision. Norway must be targeted by vandals at the moment because it's constantly getting vandalised.
Thank you for your "watchdog" oversight on the COPS page and correcting the edits by 174.55.170.180 back to the correct phrase "cover's code 3". It is well established on several law enforcement forums what the text of that dispatch is saying and the proper verbage. Message Boards aren't eligible for WP:VERIFY, but what he/she is doing by continuing to revert your edits is so disruptive and a waste of your time. So I say kudos to you and thank you again for your input to the page. If you need any backing to bring this up to a higher level, drop me a line. Thanks! NECRATSpeak to me04:27, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
I do not think that you like if I say that your measure is 145cm Reaper, is contentious. I opened a BLPN case.
This is awkward and takes some effort to understand. I think you meant to say:
I do not think that you would like it if I said that your height is 145cm.
I haven't corrected it since the discussion is closed. But I thought you should know, per your subpage asking for English corrections. Regards, causa sui (talk) 20:44, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
Hola Tbhotch. He visto que hablas español (mi idioma) así que supongo que para ambos es mejor hablar así. Para qué te hablo? Para solucionar esa disputa en el artículo de Gustavo Cerati sobre los "notable instruments". He visto la talk page y hay un alegato bien largo al respecto. Al final, por mayoría, pareció que se decidió no incluir esta sección del infobox. Pero a mi no me parecen argumentos de peso los que se exponen. Por ejemplo ese de que "debe tener instrumentos personalizados como John Petrucci". Pues la gran mayoría de los músicos que están en wikipedia y que incluyen esta sección, no tienen instrumentos personalizados ni nada parecido. A decir verdad, sólo nombran los instrumentos más utilizados por dicho artista. He visto que tú has revertido ediciones de usuarios que han intentado incluirla, claro que sin consultar. Yo considero una real estupidez armar un conflicto tan grande por un detalle insignificante, como lo es esa sección del infobox. Además de que no ocasiona ningún tipo de daño, vandalismo o va en contra de la verdad, como de las normas. Mi posición es que debiera incluirse la sección y no habría por qué oponerse, pero mi opinión no vale de nada si estoy sólo. Por eso pido tu apoyo y que me dejes incluirla. No digas que lo exponga en la talkpage, ya que tu mismo deberías saber de que no me serviría de mucho, ya que en esta wiki no encontraría mucho apoyo, por falta de latinos y de fans de Gustavo, que están mayoritariamente en la wiki en español. Ojalá me comprendas. Saludos 190.54.36.230 (talk) 01:43, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Tranquilo, mi ip de hecho es fija y me ha traído varios problemas por ello. Entiendo completamente tus argumentos. Creo que tienes razón en muchas cosas. Pero la regla que sale en "infobox:musical artist" no excluye a Cerati. Dice que es para incluir los instrumentos fuertemente ligados al artista. Por ello Cerati calificaría para que se le incluyeran 3 o 4 guitarras con las que ha hecho una carrera considerable, por ejemplo la PRS Custom o la Jackson Soloist, que es de conocimiento publico el uso que él les ha dado. No se trata de incluir una larga lista con TODAS las guitarras que usa y ha usado, sino las más características. Yo mismo cuando imagino a Cerati, lo imagino con su PRS. Y si en latinoamerica le preguntas a alguien que sabe de música y guitarras sobre la PRS, seguro nombrará a Santana y a Cerati como maximos exponentes del uso de este instrumento en esta parte del mundo. No porque un par de gringos crean que Cerati no tiene notabilidad con este instrumento simplemente porque no lo conocen, quiere decir que sea así. Cerati sin duda ha hecho notables mínimo un par de guitarras ¿y como no? si él es muy posiblemente el músico de rock más importante en la historia latina, ha marcado épocas con su música y, por consiguiente, junto a sus instrumentos. Nadie se va a morir si no se incluye eso en el infobox, pero si alguien se toma el tiempo de agregar ese pequeño detalle, ¿cuál es el problema?. Es sólo un detalle, ¿pero no que Wikipedia se construye a partir de pequeños aportes de cada uno?. No sé que otro argumento más te pueda añadir para que me apoyes. Saludos 190.54.36.230 (talk) 22:13, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Te agradecería que me respondieras. Aunque fuera una respuesta negativa, me gustaría saberlo. Lo único que te pido es que ojalá tomes en cuenta los argumentos que te he expuesto. Gracias por tu tiempo. 190.54.36.230 (talk) 04:57, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Es complicado lo de la talk page. Ya sabes, probablemente se arme una tremenda discusión y no se llegue a ningún acuerdo. Además sería más difícil para mí, que manejo de una manera bastante básica el inglés. ¿Por qué no mejor al contrario?, me podrías dejar agregar la "sección", y si alguien de opone, que él lo exponga en la talk page. Yo creo que sería una buena solución. Al final yo lo lo veo como una contribución, y no hay para que abrir un "alegato" para hacer una contribución. Te agradezco la comprensión. Espero tu respuesta. 190.54.36.230 (talk) 16:33, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Por supuesto que no es tu artículo. Decía "que me dejaras" en el sentido de que tú estás "vigilando" el artículo. Me da problemas lo de la talk page, sé es que es el conducto regular, pero tener que explicar todo de nuevo, además en inglés (con el cuál se puede entender de otra forma lo que quiero decir, gracias a mi manejo básico) no me agrada mucho. Lo del RFC no creo que sirva. Por lo que vi en la misma talk page, las opiniones eran todas contrarias y sin embargo carecían de argumentos sólidos, pero como eran mayoría igual eran tomadas en cuenta. Y sinceramente, la falta de latinos igual tiene un peso, en el sentido de que si estuvieramos hablando de Jimi Hendrix por ejemplo, seguramente en dos segundos habría consenso de agregar la sección por que él es muy popular y conocido. No así Cerati en el mundo no latino. Si a mi me vinieran a hablar de la notabilidad de "Juan Perez", yo diría que no es notable, porque no lo conozco. Al menos ese es el punto de vista que en general tienen los que opinan sin saber del tema, no suelen averiguar antes de opinar. En resumen, aún siendo buenos mis argumentos, sé que me van a decir que no. Genial, ahora no sé que hacer... 190.54.36.230 (talk) 03:42, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
No puede llamarle vandalismo a agregar notable instruments. Se nota que él no tiene mucho conocimiento de las políticas de Wikipedia. En WP:VAND dice claramente: "Si se hace de buena fe, cualquier esfuerzo de mejorar la enciclopedia, aunque esté equivocado, no es vandalismo". 190.54.36.230 (talk) 17:00, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Si no es mucha molestia, ¿por qué no le dices algo tú?. Le podrías decir que no es vandalismo y que está acorde con las normas de Wiki. Te lo agradecería mucho. Tú eres un usuario más respetado y sería más convincente que le dijeras algo tú a que se lo diga una simple "ip". 190.54.36.230 (talk) 23:10, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Oye Tbhotch me di cuenta de algo. BurienBomber editó como supuesto vandalismo mi edición cuando tu pusiste en el infobox "Do not add "Notable instruments" here, see talkpage". Entonces la solución más simple es que tú en persona incluyas la sección y borres eso que pusiste. Si cualquier otro usuario incluyera la sección, parecería que estaría pasando por sobre tu petición. Si tú lo haces no habrá problema. Te doy las guitarras, que son 4 y te aseguro que son las más características, ni más ni menos. Irían en este orden: PRS Custom (PRS Guitars), G&L Legacy HB (G&L Musical Instruments), Gibson ES-335 y Jackson Soloist.
Disculpa, te he molestado demás, pero no tenía a quien recurrir. Te agradezco mucho el hecho que al menos me hayas prestado atención. Veamos si haces este último favor por mi. Gracias por todo. Espero tu respuesta aunque sea negativa. 190.54.36.230 (talk) 15:36, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
I just stumbled across your User:Tbhotch/EN page, so I thought I'd make a few suggestions. Feel free to use them or ignore them. :-)
You have probably noticed that my English level is not good enough. What you probably did not know is that English is not my primary language, and I'm taking courses to learn. I started to edit Wikipedia because I did not like to see Electricidad as a redlink; it is a studio album by Jesse & Joy that contains songs I like. Some time after, I discovered that this site could help me to improve my English, so I decided to stay and and try to upgrade it. It has improved, with no doubt, but still not enough.
You have probably noticed that my English level is not good enough.
"Good enough' is a comparative statement, and should normally be followed by a "...for (whatever)" as you are clarifying what purpose your English is not good enough for. One alternative is "...not good enough for Wikipedia", however I don't like that as your English clearly is good enough. So a better alternative would be: "You have probably noticed that my English level is not at the same standard as most editors."
What you probably did not know is that English is not my primary language, and I'm taking courses to learn.
There is nothing wrong with this statement grammatically, however it is better (stylistically) to not try to guess what other people know. "English is not my primary language and I am taking courses to improve it." is a better sentence that says the same thing.
Some time after, I discovered that this site could help me to improve my English, so I decided to stay and and try to upgrade it.
When you use the word "it" in a sentence, it refers to the subject of the sentence, which here is "this site". The second half of this sentence says you decided to stay at "this site" and try to upgrade "this site". I don't think this is what you actually meant to say.
It has improved, with no doubt, but still not enough.
Following on from the last sentence, the word "it" still refers to Wikipedia, so here you are saying Wikipedia has improved, but not enough. (I know you actually intended to mean your English skills.)
Here is a rewrite of these two sentences which makes your point more clearly: "Some time after, I discovered that this site could help me to improve my English, so I decided to stay. My English has improved, no doubt, but more improvement is needed".
Anyway, hope this has some benefit for you. Good luck, your English is already very good so don't criticize yourself too much. Manning (talk) 04:44, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
What the hell?
I think there's been a mistake, I don't remember editing anything except on some articles on Minoan Crete and I certainly don't remember doing anything on "Shape Grammar". Explain please? 124.183.126.179 (talk) 10:28, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
I knew we would fall back into this again, but look at what I posted here. I had as in good conscience I cannot let go of these things. Will you watchlist it as I have urgent work and will probably won't be able to tackle any response until evening (IST)? — Legolas(talk2me)03:15, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Don't try and put blame on me Legolas. I am not going to shun someone who is attempting to review my articles. I wouldn't consider all your reviews good either, I can post quite a few that were, shall I say crappy. If you have an issue, speak with Calvin, because I'm not going to start issues here. And Honestly, you and I both know that none of the articles he passes from me are sub-par, they all easily match anything you have done for COADF or Hard Candy. Please, I ask you to keep this peaceful and amicable, I do not wish to have wars with any of you again.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me03:24, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Sorry for not answering before, I was taking a short break. Seems like the problem with IBLULT has been solved, but the main problem would be that WikiProject members continue reviewing their WikiProject articles. This is not te first article Calvin review for Carey. We have to watch this in the future. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.02:46, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
The addition of Rik Mayall and Adrian Edmonson as 'influenced' on the Rowan Atkinson page were only added as they were removed, I'm assuming accidentaly, from a previous edit by 65.93.40.90. [8]. Atkinson is also listed as an influence on both Mayall and Edmonsons pages. Should they be reinstated as influences as they were listed before with no objections?
Heh...
I never actually saw your edit to my Header Templates page until today. I can easily understand you doing that, and I don't actually mind. Just figured I'd let you know that I saw it for once. LikeLakers2 (talk) 19:54, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Article Reassessment
I've pretty much did everything you've listed on the article reassessment page. If you would kindly review the entire article, I'll fix the rest of the problems you will list. Fanaction2031 (talk) 03:53, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
This stub has potential for expansion currently given the sources I have seen relating to the album. Why not let it snowball? No need to respond, but the single is being released in less than 2 weeks and it's Kelly Clarkson! (I say that not as a fan, but because I know her popularity.) --Another Believer(Talk)23:22, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
BiggestLittleMonster 2
Hi i was searching for my user name in wikipedia and one of them led me to this and no im not an old user account out to get you. i'm sorry that i caused any suspicions or any harm to your pages. I just wanted to have some of those things that you two had so i'm just a normal user that don't want to do any harm and my page is my personal music so goodbye :)
Here's to you!
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Here's to you, Tbhotch, for your tireless work and sacrificing your time on reassessing the Transformers: Dark of the Moon article so I can fix the errors to retain it's GA status. Thank you for your support for addressing all of the article's problems! You are indeed an awesome Wikipedian! Fanaction2031 (talk) 07:34, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Azerbaijani-American
hi Tbhotch! You have previously edited the article Azerbaijani American, that's why I decided to ask you to look at this version of the page [9] I have done many edits to it, expanded it tremendously, added many fresh, new sources, including unique statistics from the Department of Homeland Security, and in general made this article more consistent with other similar articles about "hyphenated Americans", such as Russian American, Turkish American, Iranian American, Armenian American, etc. This version of the article, however, keeps being reverted by some users, including IP anons[10], who are otherwise never improving the article in any way, content with keeping it in a sorry state and just revert. The article as well as its talk page could benefit from your insight and knowledge. I have left extensive comments myself, and each time I edited, I left an overwhelming number of sources, going above and beyond of what's necessary. I don't want this simple article to become artificially polarized, and thus think your "two cents" would help improve it. --Saygi1 (talk) 00:13, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
It's too long, why lady gaga topic and singles are not devided by self?? it's better, like Template:Britney Spears / Template:Britney Spears singles or Template:Rihanna / Template:Rihanna singles --Bagus Priyambada (talk) 03:15, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
Hello Tbhotch! :] I've been working on The Closer I Get to You for quite a while now trying to add info to the original song. Can you do me a favor and reassess the article for me, just so I know if i am going in the right direction. And I also want to ask if you think the article might possibly be ready for GAN, just based on your opinion, i am not actually nominating it :p Please and thank you! :] Theuhohreo (talk) 20:22, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your notifications to the principal editors of upcoming TFAs—I know many people appreciate it. Would you mind me writing a bot that does this job? That'll save you the trouble of doing it manually. (Añadiré esta página a mi lista de seguimiento.) Ucucha (talk) 23:09, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
No, I don't have any problem with the bot, that'll save me some time and from missing the notifications (Recently, I missed to notify List of Doctor Who serials authors). Of course a problem would be the notifications. I always notify all the authors that have edited the page at least 100 times (>90 times in some cases), and when the page has been edited less than 100 times, I notify the main author only. One problem I see is that not all the main authors are the ones that nominated the article to FA (I don't remember in which article I saw this). If you can create that bot it would be great. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.23:54, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. I was thinking of only notifying the nominators, but it should also be possible to check for editors with >100 edits to the article, or perhaps the top n editors. I'll work on the coding and submit a BRFA. Ucucha (talk) 02:00, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
I could understand it was annoying to revert that nonsense by that user, but I wanna give a thank you to contributing for it. I even sent out an ARV report so he could be blocked per all the disruptions. Not like it's his fault, nobody under the age of 13 should really be using this site anyway. • GunMetal Angel03:00, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
September 2011
Latest comment: 13 years ago150 comments29 people in discussion
Back again with a request... :P Keep an eye on "Born This Way (song)" please? A Japanese user keeps on inserting the Oricon physical sales chart, although I explained once that component charts are not allowed when Japan Hot 100 is present. — Legolas(talk2me)18:58, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for rating those albums - I've been working on both for a while, so glad to see the grade get lifted. Thanks a lot! :) ToaNidhiki0500:47, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
I'd thought I had used an edit notice there from [Template:Editnotice for lists of people]], but I must admit I was surprised to see it showed up on the article page, but not unhappy with that. I've asked at the Help desk what I did wrong. You'll probably disagree, but I think it was much more likely to be effective actually on the article page rather than only showing up when the article is edited. Dougweller (talk) 20:29, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
Heads up
An IP was recently vandalizing your page. A couple other editors took care of the vandal, and I have left a message warning him on personal attacks. Seems the guy had bone to pick with you. Anyways, I am always happy to help another editor. Shakinglord (talk) 22:22, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
Lanix, (again)
I'm sorry to bother you again with this but, Fleetham has started another baseless edit war on the Lanix page. I added it to the catgory "mobile phone manufacturers" and he said that Lanix isn't a mobile phone manufacturer despite Lanix selling mobile phones and stating that they make all their own products. I don't know what it is that he has against Lanix but it is becomming rediculous! He's saying that Lanix's claims that they manufacture phones are not good enough, despite there being multiple links to Lanix's mobile division. He also brought in to question whether Lanix made the first domestically succesful computer so I added a citation to back this up and he then deleted it and then said there is no citation! He is being downright underhanded and dishonest! He is also using weasel words such as "Lanix names itself the largest computer company in Mexico" instead of accepting it as fact like the citation states. In addition he keeps saying "please don't revert, it is impolite" but hypocritically keeps doing it himself and outright ignore citations including ones from sources such as CNN, the official Lanix website and Telmex! If you look through his talk page you will see he has been blocked for doing this sort of stuff to the Lanix page multiple times in the past and multiple editors and adminstratorshave condemed his actions and keep telling him he is wrong by providing cited arguments to back up their claims while he has added a lot of his own guess work. He only listens to ciations when they suit him and will not accept others viewpoints. I don't know what to do to stop it and think I should possibly request him to be banned for an amount of time determined by an admin but I don't know how to do this. Any help would be greatly appreaciated! 75.80.58.122 (talk) 03:10, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
You are welcome my friend. Anyway, i have not talked to you for you. Are you fine? How's life outside Wikipedia (if i may ask)? Jivesh boodhun (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!)04:26, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Wow. The first one (for me) seems to be very difficult to expand. Well, i am still working on Beyonce's articles. I promise you that one day she will be among those having the best articles here. I am fine my friend and exams are approaching. Starting as from October 12 till November 24. I know you have taken "Halo" to FAC many times. So would you mind if i have a look at the article. I mean, if i do a c/e, formatting of references, etc. Jivesh boodhun (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!)04:40, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Well, it is not too difficult to expand, the difficult part is the ALT text (see the glyphs) everything is provided by the INEGI and the government websites, but I am worried about that all the references used as now are in Spanish. It is not a problem but as you know this is English wiki. Anyway, it's cool that your exams are fine, and do whatever you want with "Halo", I am not interested in the FAC process anymore. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.04:48, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
(edit conflict)In my case it has always been the same problem: I create the FAC, then somebody oppose the article with a reason to, I resolve the comments, then somebody oppose the FAC with an unvalid or poor rationale. I try to convince the delegates that he is wrong, but he defens his POV making a looong converation about it. Then no one review it and finally a hurricane close the FAC as "not promoted". I do not want to pass this again, so I prefer FLCs and GANs only.
Lol at that hurricane. Well to tell you frankly, don't you think you are too kind with them? I know we must be civil editors but what if those delegates themselves are being annoying? The biggest problem is that most of them are old and they still believe songs are released, promoted and mixed (the list is long) the same way it was done in their times (maybe in the 1980s). Jivesh boodhun (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!)05:15, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
lol, that's true, but if I start to be a little more rude, they will start to see problems with my attitude again, and another Wikiquette report will start, and another black star will be added to my upcoming-one-day-in-the-future RFA. People doesn't understand what User:TParis explained in simple English here: "...I recall somewhere that English is not Tbhotch's first language. He may have trouble sometimes understanding ... and [he] may only need things explained a little more than others.--v/r - TP16:25, 9 September 2011 (UTC)".
You are most welcome. Axel, you are really one of the kindest and most patient person i know here. I will always be happy to do something for you. I think i will use the interview. When i(WE) nominate it at FAC, i will let you know. Jivesh boodhun (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!)05:16, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
So there is actually "as main contributor" rule. That's nice because i have often seen editors (especially new ones) taking articles to GA with merely 10 contributions to them. Jivesh boodhun (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!)06:14, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi! Students of the Club Wikipedia at ITESM CCM and I are working on a project to create and improve articles related to the Festival Internacional Cervantino. We are still organizing although we have made some good contacts with embassy of the special guest-countries and the press people of the Festival. Ive worked on the Festival's page and two participants' pages Angereds Teater and Åke Parmerud as well as the European Festival Association to which the festival belongs. It hasnt been easy so far, even the Festival page is no where near where Id like it to be and a lot of that is finding info. That's where we hope working with the embassies and making other contacts will help. *Fingers crossed* These articles also desperately need images, another focus of the project. Anyway, we could sure use some experienced hands at this, as most Club members are still newbies at editing Wikipedia. We want the Festival's article in as many languages as possible, as as many of the participants' pages in both English and Spanish.
Hi there, I wonder if you would be interested in helping me with my research on Wikipedia. I am writing a dissertation on Wikipedia as part of my undergraduate course at the University of Cambridge. What I am asking is for you to complete a questionnaire with a number of general, subjective questions about your experiences working on Wikipedia, for example concerning Wikipedia's culture, your motivation in participating and so on. It should take 10-20 minutes. Participants will be anonymous if requested. More information is available if you are interested. Thanks! I really appreciate any time you can give! Thedarkfourth (talk) 06:58, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I had nominated this for FLC a few days ago. The article failed mainly because of the Reference formatting. I have improved the formatting to a greater extent. It would be nice if you have a look at the article and tell if it's close to FLC. Thanks! --Commander(Ping Me)11:22, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
Axel, there is no restriction on the number of samples that can be used in an article. I have seen an FA using 4 samples and i was simply astounded. If not merged, the controversy should be just after the production section. Your thoughts? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫)04:52, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Of course "there is no restriction on the number of samples that can be used in an article" but there is a restriction that non-free media cannot be used elsewhere in Wikipedia (without a proper rationale) called "fair use". Umbrella's sample hasn't have why it can be used at "Halo". Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.05:16, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
I really don't know. I believe that the controversies are after the composition, because it was composed before all of that drama. That's just my opinion. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.05:28, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Hate to bother you over something so trivial, but it's driving me crazy.
I read the Everst(talk) post by user:69.181.1.1 on 00:51, 20 September 2011 (UTC). Shortly after that, I checked the current version of the Mount Everest article (I am sure it was the current version), and sure enough there was the lol just as described. I checked the revision history and saw the cluebot edit that was made a few hours before. It was actually logged as 1 minute after the initial vandalism edit. I then went back to the current version of the page. The lol was still there. I clicked edit, and in the edit window, it was not visible, it wasn't there, just as described by the IP. I went back to current version, the lol was still there. Went to the edit window again, it wasn't visible.
Now, thinking it was a hidden code of some kind, I deleted the line breaks in the location of the vandalism and then I reinstalled the breaks. I checked preview and it was gone. I wrote an edit summary and saved the page. The lol was now gone and I got no edit conflict. Thinking I fixed it, I went back to the discussion page to report I fixed it. It was only then did I get an edit conflict from your edit on the discussion page explaining the cluebot edit. Again the clubot edit was performed hours before all this happened. I checked the revision history and the cluebot edit was still the lastest version of the page! and there is no record at all of my revision!
Any idea what happened? Im not making this up and Im not crazy. I'm sure I was looking at current version each time. Its just really wierd. Can you shed any light at all on this?--Racerx11 (talk) 02:10, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. I didn't know things like this were common. Never seen it before. Most of my edits are made on low traffic pages, so this issue doesn't ever come up on those type articles.--Racerx11 (talk) 02:26, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Locks and semi-protection
I notice that whenever I forget to add the lock (the small semi-protection template) on an article, "you" seem to come around and add it for me, in a relatively short period of time. I presume this is a bot running on your account. Is the bot relatively fool-proof? In other words, is it unnecessary for a protecting admin such as myself to personally add the lock? Or is it still better to do ourselves, just in case the bot doesn't catch it. You can reply here, I'll watch this page. Qwyrxian (talk) 07:12, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
No, it is not a bot, it is just me helped by the Protection log. When an admin doesn't add a pp-protected template to a semi-protected page (per obvious reasons) I add the {{pp-semi}}/{{pp-template}}/{{pp-blp}} (depending the page). It is not necessary to add it but, for courtesy for the unregistered users, I add the lock. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.07:17, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Ah, thanks, then, I'll try to remember to do it myself--if it were a bot, it would be fine, but I don't want to make extra work for another human! Qwyrxian (talk) 04:16, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the assist at WP:RFPP! That was getting quite frustrating; I even went to the sandbox to try to work out what I was doing wrong. I was ready to jump out the window. (OK-not really.) Thanks again! Joefromrandb (talk) 21:25, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Yes, i t will be taken there in December 2011 (after my exams). Aww thanks a lot for your help. You simply too kind. By the way, if an article repeatedly fails, and i repeatedly take it to FAC till it gets promoted, is there anything wrong in doing that? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫)06:03, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
You may kill me but I haven't heard it. IASF was a gift from a friend so that's why I listened to it. I've seen it at my local music store for $18 US dollars (aprox.), and well, if I haven't bought Echo (Leona Lewis album)... I think I'll buy them in Christmas
lol, poor lady, anyway, the version I saw was the Deluxe edition (or in other words "Girls, Run This Word 5 Times"). And of course I knew that our Queen will have a princess, it is only time if you have a NYC rapper husband. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.06:35, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
"Girls, Run This Word 5 Times" > is it the title? Yes, Beyonce is going to have a daughter. Kind of confirmed. I am so happy for her but also sad because she will not be able to promote the album. Do you like "Best Thing I Never Had"? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫)06:42, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Well, I'm 100% sure the perfume is for women. But, I couldn't resist to check it out. So, I tried it on. It's really intense. I don't know how to explain the fragrance, but I can say it's amazing. Really amazing. Novice7 (talk) 07:33, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Really. It is. My whole family was like "why are you wearing a female parfum?" lol. But, they liked it too. Take care Jiv. Do well in your exams! Novice7 (talk) 07:43, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Are you going to respond to the personal attacks at the Afd for Riri's sixth studio album? Oh and by the way, bad perfume, just bad... #HerForBuyingHeatOnly. — Legolas(talk2me)19:13, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Nah, I'm not going to stoop to their level. If the article is kept, we can start to disrupt Wikipedia and create articles of Rihanna whenever we want :) . Also, I don't know about heat, female perfumes belong to females. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.19:19, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
I had to try it once for my sister, she wanted it. Definitely bad, even for girls. My sister hated it. And the Afd is quite fun. Ithink I may have found another sock. I'm turning into a doll-collector! — Legolas(talk2me)19:25, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
lol, everything is possible, this has to be checked carefully (three Rihanna fans edited the page within 2 hours the AFD was created). I've gotta go, I'm going to murder to Rihanna muahaha. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.19:30, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Have you seen her ass lately? All you need is a banana peel. She'll bump into oblivion then. PS. You can use Brown's banala to peel.. tee hee hee) — Legolas(talk2me)19:37, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Mags, its a girl's perfume, not supposed to smell like a boy's eau-de-cologne. And Jivesh, your comment just proved you're still a baby. Choo chorry, ITYS. — Legolas(talk2me)06:03, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
That was a quick response. Thanks for pointing out this important point. Do you monitor Madonna articles? Thanks again for directing me to the guidelines regarding citation tags in the lead section of articles, which I wasn't entirely aware of. What about when the information stated in the lead isn't present in the rest of the article? In these cases, it seems quite appropriate to add citation tags, which seems to be the consensus from what I've read. Anyway, please respond at your convenience. Northamerica1000 (talk) 19:43, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Article ratings
Thanks for assessing Archaic Greek alphabets. From the sequence of your edits ("start class" assessment after less than a minute of consideration [11], then immediately up to "B" the next day with a preceding editing pause of 7 minutes, during which I assume you read the article, which hadn't changed in the meantime) I take it that the earlier "rating" was just a mechanical default; if not, the difference in your assessment would be inexplicable.
May I suggest that such a practice of handing out "start"s more or less blindly is seriously not a good idea. "Start class" is a very poor rating; it basically amounts to saying that the article is rubbish. (Quoting from a typical project quality scale: "quite incomplete [...] weak in many areas. [...] may be distinctly unencyclopedic, and MoS compliance non-existent [...] will also need substantial improvements"). To an experienced Wikipedian, having such a tag slapped on a piece of work one has been investing serious academic effort in can come across as seriously insulting, especially when it is done in this drive-by fashion. I can certainly say I felt pissed in this case.
The option to leave the class parameter blank exists for a reason, so please, when you're not actually assessing stuff, use that.
When dealing with work by serious, experienced fellow editors, even a "C" rating implies serious criticism, and should not be done lightly; in fact, it is hardly polite to add such an assessment at all unless it is accompanied by some explanation of what the perceived weaknesses are. Fut.Perf.☼05:31, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
Hey, you seem to be doing it again. This is not an article I care about, but can you tell me how Michael Sata is a "start class", and how you determined that in under one minute? Fut.Perf.☼17:39, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
No, wait, I do want an answer. Yes, I looked a bit over your assessment contributions from the last few days to see what is going on. Given the fact that you could assess the exact same article once as "start" and once as "B" within the span of 24 hours in at least one case, I believe some curiosity is indeed warranted here. Either you really do not read the articles, or you are handing out assessments at random, or your judgment is instable to a surprising extent. This is particularly troublesome as you are apparently assessing articles across a huge range of topic areas, most of which you apparently have no particular expertise in and no connection to the wikiprojects concerned. About the Sata article, I read the criteria. So, can you tell me where exactly that article is "quite incomplete" and "weak in many areas" (rather than, say, having merely "some gaps or missing elements"?) Fut.Perf.☼18:10, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
I refrained from further administrative enforcement following your comment regarding my actions. I now see that an independent administrator has imposed an indefinite block against the user involved. I have therefore removed your warning from my user talk page. Ian¹³/t18:16, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
Not entirely sure what was going on here, but I've put a stop to it. IMHO, such clear vandalism and edit warring would not stop an involved admin from acting. Any admin worth their salt would have reached the same conclusion and blocked. Mjroots (talk) 18:22, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
I've now looked into exactly what was happening here. IMHO, this warning that you gave Ian13 (talk·contribs) was unjustified. Moving a page to an unencyclopedic title is vandalism, and as such is specifically excluded from WP:3RR. I will be amending that page to specifically add moving of pages to unencyclopedic titles as an example of vandalism. Mjroots (talk) 09:15, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
A the top of my page it says EN LV2 for a reason, I couldn't identify that "Choo Choo" was vandalism and I only saw two users moving pages, AGF please. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.18:09, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
I did AGF, by keeping this matter between ourselves rather than escalating it to ANI. All three of us are admins, so we should be able to work these things out. No major harm was done and I've put in place measures to prevent a reocurrence of the vandalism. Therefore I now consider the matter closed with no further action required. Mjroots (talk) 03:56, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi.. I need a big favor. Two of my students translated two articles from English into Spanish today and both have disappeared without warning. I know nothing about the deletion process in es.wiki and my students know less. They had the etiquetas on them stating that they were being translated. Do you know how to find out?Thelmadatter (talk) 22:30, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
The Canadian Ballet one seems to appear now, but Saloca says the Ballet Mexcaltitlán (actually should be Ballet Mexcaltitán but the student made an errors and cant move pages) was never created. Funny, I helped him create it! Look for it as Ballet Mexcaltitlán. Thanks.Thelmadatter (talk) 01:22, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Yes, but you created it under a bad title and it was moved, but funny the way good faith is assumed, since it was never deleted (and it wasn't yet moved when you left the note here) . How about you made a second typo when looking for it and then you couldn't get to it?
TB.. I left a message for Magister Mathematicae on his page. The message above was meant for me. We need mentors over at es.wiki. Do you know anyone who wants to help out some newbies over there?Thelmadatter (talk) 17:54, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Here you have to put the word you are searching for (e.g. Beyoncé), later check "Search within content Creative Commons License", and then check "Find content to modify, adapt or use as a base" (note: this is a Google translation, it may vary), and later search. Note also that in very rare cases there images that may be tagged as free, but they are not or were "stolen" from the web.Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.18:22, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Hmmm, seems like Chinese to me. Lol. Let it be, i will read this some other day when my mind is still fresh (in the morning). Right now, it is very late. Have you seen the fourth peer review of "Halo"? I was so lucky to have such a nice reviewer. I will be making the changes soon, then we will nominate it together. About the Idolator review, i asked Legolas but he has not replied yet. I won't ask him again. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫)18:33, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Axel, actually the PR has already been done. What did you mean? You will comment at the PR or you will fix the issues raised? Will you mind if i tell you to wait till November 24, 2011 before taking this to FAC again? I will be having exams. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫)18:42, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Recently you showed an interest in an article that was reported for 3RR. Currently we have achived consensus on the talk page regarding the controversal subject matter but there is another issue regarding reliable sources on an another section. I invite you to comment on it, here. Thanks Kanatonian (talk) 03:16, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Unfortunately no, for the "C-class" criteria in the WP:ALBUMS is needed the "Credits and personnel" section, but if you manage to get one you can revert me. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.03:48, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
Okay maybe I should point these few things out. The albums is nine years old most of it's information is gonna be hard to find. Also it technically shouldn't have existed as when it was released it was done without Rimes' knowledge so it didn't get much promotion or hardly anything. What am I suppose to do? Everyone shows me recent articles that are B-class no one shows me any GA or B class articles from the 2002 era. JamesAlan1986 *talk19:47, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm sorry I'm just really frustrated right now cause no one's specifically telling me what I need to add where I can find the information, etc. JamesAlan1986 *talk19:57, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
I've noticed that. It seems that a lot of them are like that. They delete an album reviews get deleted after so many years. I was lucky to find the one for All Music cause if you look at her discography on there they removed it completely. JamesAlan1986 *talk20:09, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
Is it socking? Or just an IP that hops? I'll probably handle it either way, but if it's socking, I don't see who the master is.—Kww(talk) 00:41, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Vandalism Response
it seems that my cousin saw me on Wiki and decided to prove a point about its vandalism defense while I was away. I'll make sure he doesn't have access here and create an account in the future. -69.243.234.153
CF Monterrey Crest Conflict
My group and I have left a message indicated on your Gmail Email account.
We hope that piece from our part may help you reconsider any idea of vandalism or misuse of the Wikipedia website from your part.
Thank you.
Grammar corrections
Hi Tbhotch! I saw you on WP:RfPP, and read your User:Tbhotch/EN page, and just couldn't help but make a few corrections. You'll see them here. I wanted to post a quick explanation of those changes in hopes that it might help you in some way. :) I'll go through it one at a time from top to bottom. Overall, your English is very good, and I hope you don't take this as a criticism!
Changed "the latter" to "it". "Latter" and "former" are typically used when there are two things being discussed. For instance, "I have an apple and an orange. I ate the former, and gave my friend the latter." However, on your page, there was only one thing being clearly discussed, so just saying "it" was more appropriate.
In the second paragraph, I made a few changes. First, I changed "its" to "passed". In that sentence, you were using "its" as a verb. There are some (very formal, or poetic) senses where verbs can be left out in English, but it is not common, and can result in confusion if the surrounding text isn't in that same formal style. I can elaborate more on this if it sounds confusing (it is!) Generally speaking, you always want to include a verb.
In the second paragraph I also removed "beside", since it didn't belong there. "Beside" most often means "next to something", so it's out of place in this sentence. I don't know what you meant, so it's hard to explain in more detail, but if you have any questions about it, I'll do my best.
In the second paragraph, I also added "and" after the last comma. You will almost always want to use a conjunction (like and) when you're combining sentence fragments like this. You don't always have to put "and" in the middle, but you should always put it at the end. For example "I put on my shoes, and I tied them, and I went to the store" means the same thing as "I put on my shoes, I tied them, and I went to the store". Either of those sentences are okay, but you shouldn't say "I put on my shoes, I tied them, I went to the store". That last example is missing an "and" at the end. Does that make sense?
In the second paragraph, I changed "it" to "my English". The word "it" is okay to use sometimes, but you want to make sure you don't use it too far away from your subject. In that sentence, you wanted "it" to mean "my English", but you hadn't talked about your English since the last paragraph, which was too far away. For example, if I write a very long article, and in the beginning I talk about "my favorite chair", and at the very end of the article I say "it was very comfortable", no one will understand that I'm still talking about my favorite chair; by the end of the article, "it" could mean a lot of things. In your sentence, "it" could mean the article review process (because you were talking about it in the last sentence), or wikipedia (because you were talking about improving articles), or something else. When you haven't talked about your subject for a long time (even a few sentences), you want to repeat your subject, not use "it". Does that make sense?
I changed "I waive my right that any person can refactor my comments" to "I grant you the right to refactor my comments". There are two possible ways to phrase this: No one on wikipedia has the right to refactor your comments, and you want to grant them that right. Looking at it another way, you have the right to not have your comments refactored, and you are waiving your right to have your comments untouched. The way this sentence was written combined those two wordings, which doesn't make sense. When you "wave a right", you are giving up a right you have, and when you "grant a right", you are giving a right to someone else.
I changed "sorry to say it so bold" to "sorry to say it so boldly". "Boldly" is an adverb, and "bold" is an adjective. Understanding adjectives and adverbs can be tricky, and people very often use them incorrectly. They are complicated, and reading the articles on the two may help, but I'll explain briefly: Adjectives and adverbs both "modify" a word, but adjectives modify a noun, and adverbs modify a verb. For example, in "a large apple", "large" is an adjective because it modifies "apple", which is a noun. In "the apple rolled quickly", "quickly" is an adverb, because it modifies "rolled", which is a verb. In your sentence, we want to modify the word "say", which is a verb, so we need an adverb. "Bold" is an adjective, but "boldly" is an adverb, so we need to use "boldly". See this for more info.
Lastly, I changed "this" to "that". "This" and "that" are also tricky, and can usually be used interchangeably. However, very frequently, "this" refers to something "ahead of it", and "that" refers to something "behind it". For example, if you say "This is it", you may imply that what is going to happen next is the end. You might say that just before getting on stage for a performance. If you say "That is it", you may imply that everything you just said has ended. You might say that at the end of an essay.
And that's it! :) Again, please don't take all that as criticism - your English is very, very good. I simply noticed that you asked for input, and I hope that input was useful to you in some way. Feel free to swing by my talk page if you have any questions. Good luck, and happy editing! :) — Jess· Δ♥06:13, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Re:Re Vandalism Response
as a formerly very avid editor of Wikia and it's subdomains, I understand. thank you in advance for courtesy and what not.
cheers,
-69.243.234.153
But It's not accurate
The information written is false and can be proven with musical notes. I don't understand why I can't edit on wikipedia. I try to edit articles But someone like you for some reason thinks they have to revert everything. I tried to edit stuff about the Civil war that made sense and wasn't accurate but someone always reverts it. Wikipedia is a horrible website
I looked up The musical notes to the songs and their completely different. Thats why I edited it. I don't understand why wikipedia users call small edits like removing a couple of sentences vandalism. Im not trying to bother you or anything please forgive ok
I understand now, I now know how to Edit WIkipedia without deleting information. So I won't be bothering you anymore. Also how do you guys know when people are editing information so you can revert it.
Do you get paid for doing this, Cause I would like the extra money
Wait hold on, So you do this for pretty much no reason. I tried several times to change Wikipedia articles on multiple subjects and articles but someone always reverts. If you don't get paid to do this why do you care if I edit things. What is your motivation or any of the people on this site to revert edits by people — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drugsarebad89 (talk • contribs)
Note that I've blocked the above user for 48 hours. I was going to say that, if you want to block xyr for longer go ahead, but then I checked and realized you're not an admin. Really? Seriously? I just assumed you were. Well, if there is some history here that you think might indicate a longer block (even indefinite) is appropriate (like if this is just a continuation of a problem started by an IP user), feel free to let me know. Qwyrxian (talk) 04:08, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
TOTGA
Hi, I was reading the article you linked me to, and I'm not seeing anything very explanatory about notability about singles.
I'm completely new to this, so I'm sorry for any wrong or clumsy edits.
May you explain it to me a bit further? Thanks!
":The song must be "The one that got away". I love it. Well, you must know whether it has a release date, enough information to sustain its notability (a single cover is not important). For example, see "Countdown (Beyoncé Knowles song)". It has not been released yet but the coverage of the article is enough to let it exist on Wikipedia prior to its release date which is October 4, 2011. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫)05:15, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
No, at all, I can be your WP:Wikilawyer (XD), s/he is using a site that the community has banned, there is not a single reason to report you; on the other hand, I gave him/her a last warning for continuing adding factuallly incorrect or poorly sourced material to Wikipedia. If he continues doing it, we can report him/her at ANI, or maybe AIV (but I think that ANI is a better queue). Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.05:24, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
I am trying to keep my calm. I told him to count those awards. Axel, i will report him if he comes back. I know sometimes i am bit too sensitive about the articles i write but i think it is natural. And he is placing outdated sources. Record label companies are actually the one who inflate sales. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫)07:13, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
I also told him this
An album does not need to debut at number in 20 countries or to debut at number with over one million sales during the first week to reach a plateau of 7 million. Beyonce is one of the few artists who have longevity. Her albums do not even debut in the top 3 most of the time (except the USA), but still she eventually overshadows those debuting at number one in 20 countries because she keeps on selling.
Basically I told him the same, but doesn't want to be "wrong" about this. We have a name for those actions WP:IDHT, personally I try to avoid those editors because you won't get the point unless the left it. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.07:18, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
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Michael Tsalka
Hello! I am contacting you to get some help with the article "Michael Tsalka", I have put the references with the correct formats, but the article does not recognize them. Can you help me? The user Thelmadatter told me to contact you. Thank you! --Tlilmiztli (talk) 20:36, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! --Tlilmiztli (talk) 01:58, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
Done. Also blocked the IP. Is that a known sockpuppeteer that we could do something more systematic about? Also, should your talkpage perhaps be semi-protected? Ucucha (talk) 22:22, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
I do want to note that I am working on obtaining the Jesus soundtrack and "Written in the Stars" CD single to get more information for recording studios, and additional credits, etc. JamesAlan1986 *talk07:11, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
For the MOS one, I cannot tell you now because I only saw one issue, but I'm sure that there will be more, for the latter, both samples fail the WP:NFCC. Their summary is "X-seconds sample of the single 'Song'", therefore, you are not adding a critical commentary of those songs. If you cannot explain something relevant that increases readers' interest on the topic, the best to do is to remove them. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.07:25, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
I got your message on my talk list. And there are a few things I need to point. The background with the exception of "You Are" and "Soon" give a background to the first sentence as an explanation of tracks 2, 3, 6 and 8, all of which were released prior to the album on their respected soundtracks or concept album and I felt it should be explained in the background cause none were released for the album so I think to have them in the background is more appropriate. As far as Amazon.com to Amazon.com, Inc. and the Billboard ones go, I only gotta do that to one not all of them right? cause that's reflinks who posted them in I just posted the links as bare links then reflink them. And I think I fixed the image, though I may just go and upload it and remove that one as there's 2 on it and I personally feel that if it's got two images it's a conflict of interest. JamesAlan1986 *talk10:39, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
I do wanna add that I do own both copies of the album and I know there is an alternate country version of "But I Do Love You" on the 2001 release and that "Written in the Stars" is the alternate version featured on the single. Actually any version Rimes released both on I Need You and her Greatest Hits is the alternate version it's not the one featured in the music video or on the Aida concept album. How do you source that? JamesAlan1986 *talk11:08, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Replaceable fair use File:Leona Lewis and Avicii Collide.jpg
So if I uploaded a new version of this file, would it be enough because I don't understand any kind of these copyrighted stuff thing but still I want to contribute to Wikipedia. Would it be enough? --Syukri Abd Rahman (talk) 10:34, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
I see what your saying when it comes to the reference pretty much if there's a link to them link them. LOL! Got it. As far as the album cover OOPS! I didn't know I could do that. Learn something new everyday lol! I'm in a good mood. I just got LeAnn Rimes' All That on CD and it's really hard to get it's her 94 independent album and contains original recordings of "Blue", "I'll Get Even with You", "Why Can't We", and "Middle Man" when Rimes was 11 years old. The rest of the song are on her Unchained Melody: The Early Years album (tracks 1, 2, and 5-9). ^_^ JamesAlan1986 *talk19:25, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
My Heartfelt Thanks To You For All That You Have Been Doing For Me Since June 2009
The Helping Hand Barnstar
I award you this barnstar for being extremely helpful to me and to others inspite of facing vandalism. You are the first person here who was really willing to help me when i was new here and got blocked several times. I know I am sometimes a bit too sensitive when it comes to Beyonce but I am sincerely very happy that you have always understood me and my love as well as dedication for Beyonce-related articles. Unlike many others, you have not made fun of me or Beyonce. Axel, it does not matter how many times I thank you; it will not be enough. You are the perfect example to follow. Your kindness, patience, helpfulness are simply unlimited. You are definitely one of my best friends on Wikipedia. Hope you do not go away anytime soon. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫)05:30, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
I really don't know what to say, this was unexpected, but all I can say is thank you. Thank you for trust in me and for believe in me, you are simply a good editor, and an excellent friend and person; and don't worry, I'm not leaving Wikipedia without taste the admin tools, and it will take many years of experience. :) Thanks. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.05:43, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
Well Axel, IPs repeated keep putting "Party" as a single only because a video has been filmed for it. And oh my goodness, you do not know the latest, just because a video preview of "Love on Top" (yes only preview) was released, they have started putting that too as a single. Beyonce has said since the start that many videos will be released. Videos have been shot for all songs. But videos do not make songs a single. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫)06:13, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
So true. Hey thanks for that link. I did not know that page existed, i mean available for all users. Lol. Thanks., See you later. Take care. I have exams tomorrow. I will not be very active for 5 weeks. Before i go, do you have some Beyonce articles on your watch-list? If yes, please list them . ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫)06:27, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
For your protection efforts on my talk page overnight. I'm not even sure what that person's problem was but I don't take offense from someone who can't spell douchebag. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 11:05, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
The article has now been unprotected per the RFPP discussion. I would still like to know your opinion as to whether a separate article on the song is now justified. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 17:23, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
I just want to take the addition 2011 American Music Awards nominations back. You can edit the others if they are wrong. --LinkChou (talk) 07:31, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
C21
C21 was created 7 september 2009 and C-21 was created 1 march 2004. of the two articles, C-21 has the earliest edit history so it should be the disambiguation page. if i did it wrong, then what is the right way to fix this? Vitterio (talk) 22:01, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
Sheet? Notes? Huh?
Hi, Tbhotch. Can you explain this edit at The One That Got Away (Katy Perry song) further for me? It seems like you're saying not to use MusicNotes, but you kept its ref citation in the prose, removed the hidden note and one of its genres from the infobox, and said use "the sheet". Well, where's the sheet? If MusicNotes isn't reliable, why did you leave it? Confused, (but watching your Talk, hoping for edification) — JohnFromPinckney (talk)09:55, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Mexico City RfC
"Does this article abuse of the usage of images? If the anwser is yes, How many images needs to have this article?" Should be --> "Does this article abuse the use of images? If the answer is yes, how many images does the article need?" I would write the first sentence as "Does this article overuse images?" or "Are there too many images in this article?" to sound more American. Sorry for not just changing it, but as a matter of principle I never edit the comments of others on talk pages, ever. siafu (talk) 17:40, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I notice you do a lot of hard work adding page protection templates. I'm just wondering if this should now be considered for a Twinkle automation. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:50, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
I did find out that they did it to Fastily too but I didn't see it on Fastily's talk page so I didn't know...I feel bad now for that but I usually only check Fastily's replies. I'm just glad it's gonna get handled. JamesAlan1986 *talk06:23, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
Well, this incident is for attention since Moriori has sysop tools, and threated you to rollback you, which becomes a WP:ROLL and WP:MOS violation. For SN, what Novice said, if there are no sources it has to be removed, and the page-protection would be a "Declined, not enough recent disruptive activity to justify protection." Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.06:29, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I knew I didn't do anything wrong. I noticed all the pages that were edited and reverted are GA which told me that they didn't know what they are talking about. It'll get handled. And I just wanted opinions on SN cause I wanna do the right thing and make sure consensus are reached and find out what I need to do if it keeps up. JamesAlan1986 *talk06:33, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
I noticed that. I looked and I read the MOS and it says for pretty much argument sack that either or can be posted so for Noozgroop to go and fix them was an unnecessary and disruptive edit. But for Moriori to do what they did was wrong. I went through and reverted everything they reverted and it was several articles. JamesAlan1986 *talk06:45, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
I made note that I told both you and Fastily (who I'm currently trying to get involved in this as the user went at her too) that I am feel intimidated and scared because of this user and I really am I'm actually shaking out of fear of this user. JamesAlan1986 *talk05:04, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
LOL! Yeah I don't know it's just I've never had that happen before and it's kinda scary as I don't know how far this user will go to get there way. I really hope it'll get reconsidered and that Fastily will get involved she needs to cause they did go after Fastily and Fastily is an admin which shows this user knows no boundaries. JamesAlan1986 *talk05:26, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
You are awesome and you defend those who try and do the right thing. You assume good faith and have been a great help in my current issue with another user. You are just amazing and another person I can call a friend. ^_^ JamesAlan1986 *talk05:31, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm starting to think there's sock-puppetry between these two accounts cause Noozgroop is right back at making the same unnecessary edits that started all this crap in the first place and Moriori is no where in site and I'm sure Moriori will be back once again as I warned them (again) to stop. And it's just interested that Moriori wins her at the AN/I over admins not doing their jobs and investigating things right that Noozgroop goes right back at it. Hmm interesting... JamesAlan1986 *talk08:59, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Hola... o debería hablar en inglés, como sea, I don't think the changes for Yoshimi/Soft Bulletin were necessarily disruptive (no sources for Dream Pop...), though I'm aware I gotta source some of the others, but it seems rather hard to find sources for the genres of singles/songs, so I think we should be fine using those that apply for the album... right? Anyway, if there's any other suggestion/comment/complaint you may have, I'm glad to hear. Sorry for any inconvenience caused. --190.157.154.245 (talk) 19:54, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Human Centipede
Hi there, thanks for all your recent help on The Human centipede! The article is one of the most popular Featured Articles on the English Language wikipedia and tens of thousands of people are reading it every day. In case you're interested, there's a discussion about having the article on the main page on Halloween this year. Some think this is a good idea, others do not. Thoughts always appreciated :) See Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests cya! Coolug (talk) 07:10, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Sorry about that. I've asked Fastily to stop deleting pages that can be repaired easily and could be tagged if necessary but she just said NO! I'm sick and tired of telling Fastily that her/his edits are wrong. I will stop now and get on with editing. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.
--David. S 06:40, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
"Attacking" you
On the Billie Joe Armstrong page. I wasn't "attacking" you at all. You came off as being condecending, as if talking to an idiot. I was simply saying that there was no need for it. It wasn't an "attack".92.19.41.208 (talk) 20:27, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
I can definitely see your point. Also I see where it says, "Copying a signature from a primary source may be a misuse of the source and a breach of privacy." I copied the signature from Russell's official website. Do you know how to have it removed from Commons? —MikeAllen01:59, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Request
Could you possibly undo your report here and let me deal with it as I was doing in a more civil fashion than an AN/I report? You must know that such a report is highly unlikely to achieve anything except stress and the wrong sort of drama. Thanks for your attention. --John (talk) 02:09, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Sorry John, but I'm done with this kind of users that seems to have "diplomatic immunity". If I where adding to User:X that he is a queer or User:Y is an idiot all of [you would] start to block my account. If he is not censored neither I am. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.02:13, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
I understand and I am still not clear why this is such an emotive area for the two of you. Can you help explain it to me? --John (talk) 02:16, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
I don't know who is this guy. I've seen him at ANI and that's all, the "emotive" part should go with him as he is the only narrow-minded and the only who is on the defensive, and with making attacks is clear that he is not willing to cooperate and he will keep his view. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.02:21, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
I don't envy you Tbhotch, but you got off comparatively easy! I've seen the "Malleus-dragged-to-AN/I" thing countless times (as I'm sure you have as well), and it does nothing but fan flames you might not even know are there. When you block Malleus for incivility... is that admin ever in for a treat! The pattern never changes, really. The block is overturned within minutes, but not before he's threatened to quit, "demands the head" of the admin, or both (like this time). That admin is usually scrutinized and chastised a bit, and learns the futility. He's never said he would change, so it's not like no one sees it coming. Just do like I do: if you're unfortunate enough to disagree with him on something, never retort with childish insults and assumptions. Ask short, simple questions, never challenging his skill or intellect. It's tempting to bait when being spoken to so rudely (as if you could speak to real co-workers like that, especially in a big corporate setting - hah!), but best to resist it (not saying that you did any baiting - just a general tip). With any luck, he'll just call you a "joker" at worst and move along peacefully. John seems to have learned to handle him: why, not long ago Malleus was actually blocked by another admin for this almost trademark quip directed at him. They've patched things up since then - good to see!
Anyhoo Tbhotch, I was amused at your final "rant" at AN/I, and sorry if my comments were uninvited/unwelcome. Cheers :> Doctalk10:22, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
I think they saw us using the sheetmusic for song analysis and decided to join Wiki. They're editing. A COI, I think. Self-promotion. Novice7 (talk) 04:07, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Some time ago Malleus Fatuorum called me twice a "dickhead" merely because I dared to award an editor with a star and not him.[13][14] He thinks so much of himself that he sincerely believed that my FAC was promoted because of him. You should have told me of this report you made against him. It would have been a pleasure to help you out. --Lecen (talk) 13:10, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
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Olivia Wilde
I am surprised that you are reverting my edits to Olivia Wilde. You keep pointing to MOS:BIO of which the pertinent section reads "In most modern-day cases this will mean the country of which the person is a citizen or national, or was a citizen when the person became notable." Olivia held Irish and American citizenship at birth. As such she held both when notable so should be listed as both Irish and American rather than just American 20:05, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
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