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Administrators' newsletter – August 2023

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2023).

 

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The Signpost: 15 August 2023

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Proposed decision posted for the SmallCat dispute case

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The proposed decision in the SmallCat dispute has been posted. You are invited to review this decision and draw the arbitrators' attention to any relevant material or statements. Comments may be brought to the attention of the committee on the proposed decision talk page. For the Arbitration Committee, Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 10:53, 23 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mug shot of Donald Trump

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Hi! I recently read your close of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mug shot of Donald Trump. I'm a bit confused as to why WP:NOPAGE arguments were entirely excluded from the closing summary: would you be willing to explain how you weighed the arguments related to that guideline when making you decision to SNOW close? — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 13:29, 25 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hi @Red-tailed hawk, thanks for the message! You're quite right, I should have addressed that in the summary too.
The reasoning is similar to the close summary itself; while currently the mug shot and the Georgia court case are inextricably linked, it is highly likely that the two will become less and less so. If the prosecution wins, then that result will overshadow any thought of the mug shot, especially if it results in jail time for Trump; if the defence wins, no doubt the Trump campaign will use the result to attempt to boost their campaign. Either way the article on the proceedings and their aftermath will likely be very lengthy, justifying a separate article for the mug shot per WP:SUMMARY.
I appreciate that's all a bit crystal bally but as there's really no doubt that the Georgia election racketeering prosecution article will grow to a point where any substantial mention of the mugshot would fall foul of WP:WEIGHT and there's already sufficient notability and verifiable content to support a stand-alone article - and of course given the weight of support from the keep !votes - it seemed like the right call.
I'll end by saying what I always say - I never take offence at my closes going to WP:DRV should you wish to get some additional admin opinions there. Like everyone here, if I've made a mistake I'm keen to learn from it. WaggersTALK 18:37, 25 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Rather than running this through DRV, do you think you could vacate the close and let this run for the full week? It had a lot of !keeps but it also had a lot of arguments for merge, redirect and delete. This doesn't look like a snow close to me. The fact that there are valid policy arguments that are not fully addressed in the closure implies that this discussion has further to go. Thanks. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:50, 25 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Ditto. A snowball clause only works if everyone's on board to keep the article. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 19:57, 25 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Yep that seems sensible, will do that now. WaggersTALK 20:06, 25 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/25/trump-fulton-county-jail-mugshot-republicans-2024
https://www.globalplayer.com/podcasts/episodes/7DrgxLT/ Spartaz Humbug! 20:14, 25 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Spartaz Save these for the AfD page. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 20:16, 25 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
LilianaUwU, you are thinking of Speedy Keep. WP:SNOWCLOSE doesn't require agreement, just an overwhelming number of editors holding the opinion that a discussion should close with a particular outcome. Liz Read! Talk! 00:29, 26 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Nomination of Southampton City Primary Care Trust for deletion

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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Southampton City Primary Care Trust is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Southampton City Primary Care Trust until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Elshad (talk) 17:16, 27 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

The Signpost: 31 August 2023

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2023

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).

  Guideline and policy news

  • Following an RfC, TFAs will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
  • A discussion at WP:VPP about revision deletion and oversight for dead names found that [s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment.

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  • The SmallCat dispute case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in XfD have been reminded to be careful about forming local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus. Regular closers of XfD forums were also encouraged to note when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful.

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  • Tech tip: The "Browse history interactively" banner shown at the top of Special:Diff can be used to easily look through a history, assemble composite diffs, or find out what archive something wound up in.

Account renamed

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The user account "Midwaymarauders" that you blocked was renamed globally to Bobbyboucher54 (talk · contribs) (log). It is possible to unblock that user now since it is no longer the name of a group and therefore compliant with the username policy. Eyesnore 01:43, 11 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2023

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2023).

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  • An RfC is open regarding amending the paid-contribution disclosure policy to add the following text: Any administrator soliciting clients for paid Wikipedia-related consulting or advising services not covered by other paid-contribution rules must disclose all clients on their userpage.

  Technical news

  • Administrators can now choose to add the user's user page to their watchlist when changing the usergroups for a user. This works both via Special:UserRights and via the API. (T272294)

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ANI edit conflict

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Hi, and thanks for dropping by at AN/I. I just wanted to inform you that the comment you added to the discussion about the external links IP editor has been inadvertently removed by Lowercase Sigmabot while it was archiving old threads, possibly as the result of an edit conflict: diff. — AP 499D25 (talk) 12:14, 16 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, I see it has been restored. Thanks for adding your comments :) WaggersTALK 14:47, 16 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

The Signpost: 23 October 2023

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ace Pijper

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Hi. In light of the documented WP:CANVASSing amongst the keep !voters in that AfD, the lack of sources provided by the one who asserted them, and the weak arguments refuted by WP:NOTINHERITED, I don't believe we have consensus and I would think a relist would be fair. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)  02:11, 28 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the message - I'd like to get some other opinions on the matter so let's go to DRV and see what they say. WaggersTALK 09:35, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the reply, and for going to DRV. More eyes is always good! ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)  16:03, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Request

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I've started a revamp of Wikipedia:Tools/Optimum tool set.

Please take a look and let me know if there are any essential techniques or must have tools that you think should be included.

Thank you.

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   06:51, 5 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

The Signpost: 6 November 2023

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Administrators' newsletter – November 2023

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2023).

 

  Administrator changes

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  Arbitration

  • Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
  • Xaosflux, RoySmith and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee Elections. BusterD is the reserve commissioner.
  • Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
  • Following several motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles, Liancourt Rocks, Longevity, Medicine, September 11 conspiracy theories, and Shakespeare authorship question cases.
  • Following a motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the Macedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
  • Following a motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the The Troubles case has been amended.
  • An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.

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Draft: The Earthworks

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Hi, I'm curious why passing the GNG doesn't make the article an instant accept. As I understood it, if it would survive at AFD, it should be passed. I also think there is potential scope for expansion, given the play is about to be staged again - at a fairly major theatre, as the draft mentions. Apologies if there are conventions and discretion I'm not aware of, I'm new to reviewing. Heavy Grasshopper (talk) 14:30, 10 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

No problem - I'm new to reviewing too, which is the only real reason I left a comment instead of boldly hitting the accept button. WaggersTALK 15:22, 10 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
I'm heading back to accept it properly now :) WaggersTALK 15:26, 10 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
Oh sorry, I shouldn't have assumed you were a seasoned reviewer. :) I'm trying to soak up some knowledge...anyway, thanks for your time and happy reviewing! Heavy Grasshopper (talk) 16:10, 10 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

The Signpost: 20 November 2023

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ArbCom 2023 Elections voter message

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Administrators' newsletter – December 2023

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2023).

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  • Following a motion, the Extended Confirmed Restriction has been amended, removing the allowance for non-extended-confirmed editors to post constructive comments on the "Talk:" namespace. Now, non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace solely to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided that their actions are not disruptive.
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SkylerLovefist

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Helo Wagger. Sorry to bother you. I'm HHH Pedrigree. Some time ago, me and other user had a problem with another editor, SkylerLovefist. Skyler was blocked after several personal attacks. The user came back with more insults and you blocked him [1], including attacks on me on their edit summary. Now, I found this [2] which is a clear attack on me. There is something we can do? HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:55, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hi, the IP address they used this time belongs to a mobile phone operator in New Zealand and is probably shared with other people, so we have to be very careful with blocking those. If we do see a long term pattern of abuse from the same address though, that's absolutely something we'd block. The best way to report that is at WP:AIV. Like any individual admin, I'm not always around to respond as I have a life outside of Wikipedia :) WaggersTALK 09:03, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

The Signpost: 24 December 2023

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Thank you for participating in AfC November 2023 Backlog Drive

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  Here's a brownie for your efforts
Thank you for your participation in the Articles for Creation's November 2023 Backlog Drive! You made a total of 1 review, for a total of 1 point. – robertsky (talk) 06:55, 25 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Happy holidays!

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Administrators' newsletter – January 2024

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).

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Administrators' newsletter – February 2024

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).

 

  CheckUser changes

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  Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.

  Technical news

  • Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)

  Arbitration

  • Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
  • Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.

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Happy First Edit Day!

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Happy First Edit Day!

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User talk:NASO20

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Sock related to User:Nasoofficial whom you blocked. You may wish to revoke TPA. Cahk (talk) 09:57, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, if they start posting on their talk page I'll consider that - looks like they're leaving things alone now they're blocked though. WaggersTALK 14:27, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Administrators' newsletter – March 2024

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).

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  • The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. (T353388)

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The Signpost: 2 March 2024

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RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I

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Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is now no longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving RfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:

  • Proposal 2, initiated by HouseBlaster, provides for the addition of a text box at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
  • Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by Barkeep49 and Usedtobecool, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
  • Proposal 5, initiated by SilkTork, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
  • Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by BilledMammal, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
  • Proposal 7, initiated by Lee Vilenski, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
  • Proposal 9b, initiated by Reaper Eternal, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
  • Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by City of Silver, Ritchie333, and HouseBlaster, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
  • Proposal 13, initiated by Novem Lingaue, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
  • Proposal 14, initiated by Kusma, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
  • Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by Thebiguglyalien and Soni, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
  • Proposal 16e, initiated by BilledMammal, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
  • Proposal 17, initiated by SchroCat, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
  • Proposal 18, initiated by theleekycauldron, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
  • Proposal 24, initiated by SportingFlyer, provides for a more robust alternate version of the optional candidate poll.
  • Proposal 25, initiated by Femke, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
  • Proposal 27, initiated by WereSpielChequers, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
  • Proposal 28, initiated by HouseBlaster, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.

To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her), via:

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Happy Adminship Anniversary!

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Administrators' newsletter – April 2024

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).

 

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  • The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)

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  • Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.

Good article reassessment for Citroën C3 Picasso

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Citroën C3 Picasso has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article.  750h+ | Talk  13:19, 17 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

The Signpost: 25 April 2024

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Administrators' newsletter – May 2024

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2024).

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  CheckUser changes

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  Guideline and policy news

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  • Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531

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RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins

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Hi there! Phase I of the Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:

See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steven Holker

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Hello, Waggers,

First, thanks for helping out closing AFD discussions. We are always in need of competent, thoughtful closers.

Second, typically, if a discussion has low participation (say the nominator and one other editor "voting" Delete), those discussions are closed as "Soft Deletes". If you are using XFDcloser, there is a box that appears under "Delete" option that says "Soft" that you can check off. The difference is that an article deleted as a Soft Delete is treated like a Proposed deletion and can be restored upon request at WP:REFUND. If an article is straight-on "Deleted", it is much more complicated and an editor likely will need to file an appeal at Wikipedia:Deletion review and have the AFD reexamined in order to restore an article. Soft Deletes are primarily used when there are no editors arguing to Keep an article, when the article has not been PROD'd or to AFD before, and, as I said, when there is low participation in the discussion which generally means 1 or 2 participants.

It's not uncommon for an editor to appear weeks later after the AFD has closed with new sources that might have influenced an AFD discussion if they had been aware that the discussion was taking place and it can be convenient to be able to restore an article that didn't receive a great deal of support for Deletion. Thanks again for your help. Liz Read! Talk! 21:59, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

That's hugely useful advice, thanks! Yes this one should absolutely have been a soft delete, and I'll bear that in mind in future. WaggersTALK 13:46, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Administrators' newsletter – June 2024

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2024).

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  • The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title. T43351

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2024

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Administrators' newsletter – August 2024

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  Administrator changes

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  Technical news

  • Global blocks may now target accounts as well as IP's. Administrators may locally unblock when appropriate.
  • Users wishing to permanently leave may now request "vanishing" via Special:GlobalVanishRequest. Processed requests will result in the user being renamed, their recovery email being removed, and their account being globally locked.

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2024

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MfD nomination of Portal:Hampshire

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  Portal:Hampshire, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Hampshire and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Hampshire during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. DimensionalFusion (talk) 19:13, 3 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

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RFA2024 update: Discussion-only period now open for review

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Hi there! The trial of the RfA discussion-only period passed at WP:RFA2024 has concluded, and after open discussion, the RfC is now considering whether to retain, modify, or discontinue it. You are invited to participate at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Discussion-only period. Cheers, and happy editing! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:38, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Administrators' newsletter – October 2024

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