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Administrators' newsletter – March 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2022).
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Guideline and policy news
- A RfC is open to change the wording of revision deletion criterion 1 to remove the sentence relating to non-infringing contributions.
- A RfC is open to discuss prohibiting draftification of articles over 90 days old.
Technical news
- The deployment of the reply tool as an opt-out feature, as announced in last month's newsletter, has been delayed to 7 March. Feedback and comments are being welcomed at Wikipedia talk:Talk pages project. (T296645)
- Special:Nuke will now allow the selection of standard deletion reasons to be used when mass-deleting pages. This was a Community Wishlist Survey request from 2022. (T25020)
- The ability to undelete the talk page when undeleting a page using Special:Undelete or the API will be added soon. This change was requested in the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey. (T295389)
Arbitration
- Several unused discretionary sanctions and article probation remedies have been rescinded. This follows the community feedback from the 2021 Discretionary Sanctions review.
Miscellaneous
- The 2022 appointees for the Ombuds commission are Érico, Faendalimas, Galahad, Infinite0694, Mykola7, Olugold, Udehb and Zabe as regular members and Ameisenigel and JJMC89 as advisory members.
- Following the 2022 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: AntiCompositeNumber, BRPever, Hasley, TheresNoTime, and Vermont.
- The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey results have been published alongside the ranking of prioritized proposals.
ANI notice re: James Reston Jr.
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.
It's not about you, it's about a block you made on this account. Thanks. Kire1975 (talk) 05:35, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, Kire1975. --Yamla (talk) 11:02, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Request for a longer IPBE
Dear Yamla,
I'm user:Pavlov2, thank you for giving me IPBE previously. However, my IPBE seemed to be vanished in 18 of March and my proxy IP is still globally blocked.
If permitted, could you lengthen the IPBE for me?
Much thanks. Pavlov2 (talk) 13:18, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- Granted for one year. --Yamla (talk) 13:30, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you so much!!! Pavlov2 (talk) 13:55, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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| Thanks for protecting Wikipedia against vandalism. For this, I award you this barnstar. Williamwang363 (talk) 16:24, 6 March 2022 (UTC) |
recent socking?
UTRS appeal #55809? Thanks --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:39, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
- See the UTRS. :) --Yamla (talk) 21:45, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
Checkuser request
I was wondering if you'd be willing to run a checkuser request on the following accounts. Judeobasquelanguage (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and 86.30.52.72 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) (plus some hopping on IPs User:92.40.200.10 and User:92.40.179.17. I recently blocked Judeobasquelanguage for calling other editors racist just because they didn't provide enough reliable sources or argument to include Ainu language translations and recognition in the infoboxes for Japan and Hokkaido. Ainu is a very very niche language that's functionally extinct, only 2 native speakers and about 300 partial speakers worldwide, it's not something many people take an interest in. My reasons for the suspicion are below.
- The edit interaction report shows some suspicious overlaps in disparate areas
- a very recent interest in the Ainu language in Hokkaido and Japan.
- Both interested specifically in the city of Colchester, England
- Both interested in separatist movements in Europe, and drilling into those specifically UK ones
- States with limited recognition
- UK Election opinion polling.
- Altogether that's a huge coincidental overlap.
- Both have suddenly come to attention regarding the Ainu language in Japan and Hokkaido. Also both are throwing accusations of other editors motives around them.
- They accuse others of being biased against minorities
- Calling people racist
- IP 92.40.200.10 accused other editors (namely myself) of wanting Ainu's to die, however when I respond to that 86.30.52.72 responds to the chat in a speech pattern that's clearly meaning the two IPs are the same person. These comments all connect very similarly to Judeobasquelanguage's comments on indigenous languages needing to have respect and accusing other editors of not respecting them.
It seems clear to me that this editor has stayed out of trouble for some time, but has a registered account (Judeobasquelanguage) and also a mostly permanent IP address (86.30.52.72) but occasionally travels and jumps to others. I did last night block 86.30.52.72 for block evasion of the blocked account Judeobasquelanguague, however I undid it as since I engaged them partially on a talk page I could be considered involved here. I also thought that at this point it may be worth getting a checkuser to confirm that the accounts are the same. Thoughts? Canterbury Tail talk 14:18, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- I'm prohibited by checkuser policy on tying accounts to specific IP addresses, I'm afraid. It's early in the day and I haven't had enough coffee yet, but I think you only have a single account here. I'm certainly happy to take a look without my checkuser tools and let you know if I agree with the behavioural overlap, if that would help. If you think there are multiple accounts, let me know. --Yamla (talk) 14:39, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- Fair enough. A second eye on this as a completely uninvolved administrator and any action (or non-action) as you see fit would be appreciated. I'm personally fairly certain, but I'm also slightly close to it. Canterbury Tail talk 14:49, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- I have not used my checkuser vision here. I note both IP addresses are in the UK. It's tricky to be much more specific; they geolocate to different areas, but this information isn't particularly reliable for the UK. Plus, of course, trains. The editing overlap between the account and 86.30.52.72 is really compelling. If 86.30... was an account, I'd probably refuse to run checkuser there because there's no need, the editing overlap is enough by itself. 86.30... was active yesterday, I'd say there's plenty enough to block that IP address for a month, note that blocks apply to the person, not just the account, and restart the one month block on the account. Enough to extend the block on the account? I'd say yes, but it's dealer's choice whether a stern warning might be sufficient here. UK IP addresses are surprisingly easy to change, though, so I'm worried they'll just hop on to another one. There are rather too many articles involved here to semi-protect, unfortunately. So, TL;DNR: Yeah, I think you are correct, based on behavioural evidence. Let me know if you have any questions. :) --Yamla (talk) 18:26, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah that's what I thought. The 86.30 is surprisingly stable, I wonder if the others are travel/work/mobile type edits or the like and the 86.30 is their main editing location. I'm going to block the IP for a month for block evasion, not sure I'm WP:INVOLVED enough and I think that any admin would do the same. Oh and thank you for taking the time, much appreciated. Canterbury Tail talk 18:32, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- I have not used my checkuser vision here. I note both IP addresses are in the UK. It's tricky to be much more specific; they geolocate to different areas, but this information isn't particularly reliable for the UK. Plus, of course, trains. The editing overlap between the account and 86.30.52.72 is really compelling. If 86.30... was an account, I'd probably refuse to run checkuser there because there's no need, the editing overlap is enough by itself. 86.30... was active yesterday, I'd say there's plenty enough to block that IP address for a month, note that blocks apply to the person, not just the account, and restart the one month block on the account. Enough to extend the block on the account? I'd say yes, but it's dealer's choice whether a stern warning might be sufficient here. UK IP addresses are surprisingly easy to change, though, so I'm worried they'll just hop on to another one. There are rather too many articles involved here to semi-protect, unfortunately. So, TL;DNR: Yeah, I think you are correct, based on behavioural evidence. Let me know if you have any questions. :) --Yamla (talk) 18:26, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- Fair enough. A second eye on this as a completely uninvolved administrator and any action (or non-action) as you see fit would be appreciated. I'm personally fairly certain, but I'm also slightly close to it. Canterbury Tail talk 14:49, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Need your help!
Hi Yamla, I need your immediate help. There is a guy on wikipedia who is attacking me personally. He has created an inappropriate account disrespectng me please help me!!! I am in depression... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tamjeed Ahmed (talk • contribs) 16:46, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- There's not enough information here to take action. --Yamla (talk) 07:15, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
My account was blocked due to copyright violations which I am regretful for. I undertsand why copyright violations is grave and why it should be avoided. I want to unblock my account. Kindly help me and show me some way out. Thanking you TheUniversalEditor (talk) 06:57, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
- Please read WP:COPYRIGHT and WP:FAIRUSE. --Yamla (talk) 07:15, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
Barnstar for you
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Administrators' newsletter – April 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2022).
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Guideline and policy news
- An RfC is open proposing a change to the minimum activity requirements for administrators.
Technical news
- Access to Special:RevisionDelete has been expanded to include users who have the
deletelogentryanddeletedhistoryrights. This means that those in the Researcher user group and Checkusers who are not administrators can now access Special:RevisionDelete. The users able to view the special page after this change are the 3 users in the Researcher group, as there are currently no checkusers who are not already administrators. (T301928) - When viewing deleted revisions or diffs on Special:Undelete a back link to the undelete page for the associated page is now present. (T284114)
Arbitration
- Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures § Opening of proceedings has been updated to reflect current practice following a motion.
- A arbitration case regarding Skepticism and coordinated editing has been closed.
- A arbitration case regarding WikiProject Tropical Cyclones has been opened.
Miscellaneous
- Voting for the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement guidelines has closed, and the results were that 56.98% of voters supported the guidelines. The results of this vote mean the Wikimedia Foundation Board will now review the guidelines.
Hey! User talk:Superhonestreliablesource had a couple of second chance tasks. They went pear-shaped? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:30, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- They did. I, of course, don't object to an unblock if they make a compelling case. I haven't seen a compelling case for them, including in that UTRS request. The second-chance template is rather strict and I'd certainly look favourably upon suggested edits less significant than required there, but again, I haven't seen anything worthwhile from that editor. Of course, I'm not the blocking admin. :) --Yamla (talk) 19:58, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Frustrating. Couldn't figure what they were trying to say with the second-chances. They feel trollish, but maybe they are really trying. Clueless? Can't get a handle. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:06, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm not sure either. The username tends to lean me toward trollish, but... maybe just clueless? --Yamla (talk) 20:07, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah. That username. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:18, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm not sure either. The username tends to lean me toward trollish, but... maybe just clueless? --Yamla (talk) 20:07, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Frustrating. Couldn't figure what they were trying to say with the second-chances. They feel trollish, but maybe they are really trying. Clueless? Can't get a handle. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:06, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
FYI
gave me a good giggle in that unblock request. Wanted to let you know the master is Plophead12345 and their more recent sock is Sikova na Ositerelia. I've already requested locks. CUPIDICAE💕 12:45, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- And also this winner. CUPIDICAE💕 12:47, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- Some people have much too much time. :) --Yamla (talk) 12:49, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- nothing proves their innocence more than being a colossal asshole and making stupid usernames, I guess! You also got one too! CUPIDICAE💕 12:53, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- This is how you know you are loved. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:09, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- Fan is short for fanatic. :) --Yamla (talk) 13:17, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- This is how you know you are loved. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:09, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- nothing proves their innocence more than being a colossal asshole and making stupid usernames, I guess! You also got one too! CUPIDICAE💕 12:53, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- Some people have much too much time. :) --Yamla (talk) 12:49, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
New administrator activity requirement
The administrator policy has been updated with new activity requirements following a successful Request for Comment.
Beginning January 1, 2023, administrators who meet one or both of the following criteria may be desysopped for inactivity if they have:
- Made neither edits nor administrative actions for at least a 12-month period OR
- Made fewer than 100 edits over a 60-month period
Administrators at risk for being desysopped under these criteria will continue to be notified ahead of time. Thank you for your continued work.
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Evagirl1991
It's probably worth noting that I'm pretty sure this isn't their first account, see this account, which is also likely the director they keep writing about (so it's basically autobio crap) CUPIDICAE💕 19:30, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Interesting! Thanks very much, nice find. --Yamla (talk) 20:10, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
An autoblock issue
Hi Yamla. I just lifted an autoblock following this request. I subsequently discovered that there is some history, per this request, which you declined. Now, I know that CUs have to be "oblique" when it comes to IPs, but if you could offer some advice, I'd be most grateful. Favonian (talk) 19:38, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Your action to lift the autoblock was reasonable and a good call. "what kind of den of iniquity you're editing from" is the key point here, unfortunately. I'll point out that Sportsfan2004 proclaims they are 18 years old (which would match a birth year of 2004), and... well, let's just say the IP address(es) involved here seem likely to be the source of further inappropriate editing. I see no reason at this time to lump Sportsfan2004 into any bad behaviour, thankfully. --Yamla (talk) 20:18, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! Just glad the internet didn't exist when I was the right age for such places. Favonian (talk) 20:20, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- So true! --Yamla (talk) 20:23, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! Just glad the internet didn't exist when I was the right age for such places. Favonian (talk) 20:20, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
UTRS CU access
I just checked your user account per your comments on appeal #57521 and it appears your permissions hadn't been refreshed to give you your CU tools. I did this for you and now things should look different for you on 57521. -- Amanda (she/her) 15:14, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oh! Thanks. Yes, I now see additional information. That will be helpful reviewing UTRS requests. Thanks so much! --Yamla (talk) 16:12, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
I am involved on User talk:Carletteyt
Nobody is obliged to follow my "note to next blocking admin" on their page. Otherwise I'd be pulling the trigger myself. Another week would be my call. But I'm very much involved as a wannabe mentor. I'd like to continue to be positive with the user even when disappointed. I had already announced this was going to happen, long and loudly. BusterD (talk) 21:01, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah. Your position is this is an excited editor who might be able to edit constructively. I agree at least on the first part. I'm not about to block myself. If this goes to WP:ANI, I'd certainly support a block but my preference would be some way to convert them into a constructive editor. But wowsers, they are a ways away from that at the moment. Sometimes, having these editors try out over on simple.wiki is helpful, but I think it wouldn't be here. --Yamla (talk) 21:13, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yep, that's got to be my position because few will take it. They need an advocate and they may yet surprise us. This edit and this one give me hope. This is mere minutes after I asked them to read Template:Cite magazine. Maybe get friends like User:Dream Focus to help them learn how to search and cite well. Such renegades might be of help. Teachers I know are optimistic by nature. And they've been quiet this afternoon. BusterD (talk) 22:58, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Carletteyt
Their one edit wasn't bad but this was. It has nothing to do with the topic and is basically corp spam. Guess now I have to go take this to ANI. Sigh. PRAXIDICAE💕 15:09, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll follow along there. --Yamla (talk) 16:33, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Proxy blocks
Hi Yamla. I'm not quite sure how to approach this. I keep seeing unblock declines such as this and this. Don't worry, it's not just you, though I am writing here since you do a large number of unblock requests, including the ones I've just come across, and I might just link others to this note.
We are currently facing a situation where just every IP address in the whole of Ghana has been blocked as an open proxy. This situation affects several other countries in West Africa - Nigeria, Benin, Burkina Faso, Liberia, Côte d'Ivoire, and a few others. If you're assigned an IP address by your regular ISP in one of the countries, the chances are significant that it will have been blocked as an open proxy. And if it's not the IP address currently assigned then it will be the one assigned in the past or following hour. I'd like to encourage admins to consider whether it's likely that the user is actually using an open proxy, in other words, whether they are evading scrutiny by editing from perhaps another country, or whether it's likely that the person is in the same place as the IP address. If the user is in Ghana, then IPBE is definitely the way ahead. If you have any concerns about this, I'd be happy to be solicited for my opinion. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 21:58, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- I hear you. @ST47: correctly does most of these P2P blocks. I agree these are hitting a lot of innocent users, but it's also the case that a lot of these addresses are the cause of significant abuse. For example, a moderate number of IP address blocks were already on my watchlist because of prior abuse, long before being blocked by ST47. I have no problem generally handing out IPBE if this is what we think best. Perhaps generally IPBE for established editors? Frankly, I'm not sure the best approach but I agree with you, zzuuzz, these are causing problems for good editors. --Yamla (talk) 22:04, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- I also know why these IPs are blocked, and there are some US-based LTAs who edit almost exclusively via these proxies. I've granted over 200 IPBEs this year to users in these countries. I get lists of accounts from people running editathons, and/or more or less trusted users, and I pick up many other accounts during the process. I do have a personal undisclosed policy of not granting IPBE to people writing about non-notable musicians, entrepreneurs, philanthropists (and all that) and this has probably served me well. Just taking the example of the unblock declines I posted above, it seems like a no-brainer to grant IPBE. -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:14, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- You've convinced me. I'll take that approach for established editors (with only certain exceptions, along the lines of yours). Happy to discuss what to do with non-established editors where nobody can vouch for them (such as an editathon); I can't see a good solution there. --Yamla (talk) 22:18, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Speaking of which --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:13, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- You've convinced me. I'll take that approach for established editors (with only certain exceptions, along the lines of yours). Happy to discuss what to do with non-established editors where nobody can vouch for them (such as an editathon); I can't see a good solution there. --Yamla (talk) 22:18, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- I also know why these IPs are blocked, and there are some US-based LTAs who edit almost exclusively via these proxies. I've granted over 200 IPBEs this year to users in these countries. I get lists of accounts from people running editathons, and/or more or less trusted users, and I pick up many other accounts during the process. I do have a personal undisclosed policy of not granting IPBE to people writing about non-notable musicians, entrepreneurs, philanthropists (and all that) and this has probably served me well. Just taking the example of the unblock declines I posted above, it seems like a no-brainer to grant IPBE. -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:14, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Hey! Can you with the x-ray vision talk to them? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:11, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Or zzuuzz! It's User talk:Igini234 --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:20, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- I'll take it! --Yamla (talk) 21:28, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- htanks! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:29, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- IPBE granted, see comments at UTRS appeal #57926. --Yamla (talk) 21:31, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- thanks. done --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:41, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks both. I see what you did there. -- zzuuzz (talk) 01:21, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- thanks. done --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:41, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- IPBE granted, see comments at UTRS appeal #57926. --Yamla (talk) 21:31, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- htanks! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:29, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- I'll take it! --Yamla (talk) 21:28, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – May 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2022).
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Guideline and policy news
- Following an RfC, a change has been made to the administrators inactivity policy. Under the new policy, if an administrator has not made at least 100 edits over a period of 5 years they may be desysopped for inactivity.
- Following a discussion on the bureaucrat's noticeboard, a change has been made to the bureaucrats inactivity policy.
Technical news
- The ability to undelete the associated talk page when undeleting a page has been added. This was the 11th wish of the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey.
- A public status system for WMF wikis has been created. It is located at https://www.wikimediastatus.net/ and is hosted separately to WMF wikis so in the case of an outage it will remain viewable.
Arbitration
- Remedy 2 of the St Christopher case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to place a ban on single-purpose accounts who were disruptively editing on the article St Christopher Iba Mar Diop College of Medicine or related pages from those pages.
Could I get your thoughts...
...on Danesarehappy (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)? Given the editing pattern, timing and username, I'm inclined to believe they might be connected to one of the various farms with a vested interest in Ted Stamm, but I'm also not super eager to file because I'd like to avoid having to split the case for the third time in a row. :P Thanks, --Blablubbs (talk) 15:14, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- I'm all but certain they are part of the Ted Stamm UPE sock farm, as is your suspicion. I think there's already enough to block as WP:MEAT here. In fact, I had noticed the edits on my watchlist. I suspect it is worth extended protection on that article. What are your thoughts on that? --Yamla (talk) 17:17, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think ECP is probably the only thing that has a decent chance of calming things down in the long term, but I didn't want to apply protection before dealing with this latest account. Would 6 months sound appropriate to you? I'm still trying to figure out which group Danesarehappy belongs to (I think it might be Eashleyfox proper again, but that's just a hunch), though I suppose it doesn't matter all that much beyond the fact that it would satisfy my intellectual curiosity. --Blablubbs (talk) 17:33, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- I'm entirely uncertain who the sock belongs to. My guess is that it's actually just another UPE rather than directly controlled by one of the sockmasters. --Yamla (talk) 18:21, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- Alright. I blocked and ECP'd for a 3 months. Let's hope that does the trick. Thanks for your input. :) --Blablubbs (talk) 18:30, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- Good call, Blablubbs; now checkuser-confirmed to Eashleyfox. --Yamla (talk) 12:53, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- Alright. I blocked and ECP'd for a 3 months. Let's hope that does the trick. Thanks for your input. :) --Blablubbs (talk) 18:30, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- I'm entirely uncertain who the sock belongs to. My guess is that it's actually just another UPE rather than directly controlled by one of the sockmasters. --Yamla (talk) 18:21, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think ECP is probably the only thing that has a decent chance of calming things down in the long term, but I didn't want to apply protection before dealing with this latest account. Would 6 months sound appropriate to you? I'm still trying to figure out which group Danesarehappy belongs to (I think it might be Eashleyfox proper again, but that's just a hunch), though I suppose it doesn't matter all that much beyond the fact that it would satisfy my intellectual curiosity. --Blablubbs (talk) 17:33, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
Working on a short, fun little, YouTube video about the 2006 Qatar IP block. Would you like to make any comment for it?
If not, I won't make any mention of you. 
Hope all is well with you, –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 04:09, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
I'll take the lack of a response as a no. In that case, sorry for bothering you. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 21:28, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- I've been thinking about it. I just don't think I have anything particularly useful to say. If you have specific questions, feel free to email them to me and I'll consider answering. It was a very, very long time ago now. :) I very sincerely wish you luck with your Youtube video. I think videos like this can be really interesting. --Yamla (talk) 23:57, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- [1] Let me know what you think.
–MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 16:17, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- I really enjoyed that video. I particularly laughed at the list of subsequent blocks for that IP address. Seriously, nicely done, MJL. --Yamla (talk) 18:46, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- [1] Let me know what you think.
Advertising going to extreme lengths
Did you notice this, where you declined an unblock request in November 2021? Poor guy/gal, I feel a certain sympathy. I can just imagine the boss shouting at them. "Just fix it, how hard can it be?" Bishonen | tålk 08:25, 12 May 2022 (UTC).
- I didn't. Spammers be spamming. :( --Yamla (talk) 11:37, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- poor little advertising intern cannot even hide in Bishilla's pocket! Bishilla sniff, not eat. Yech! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:16, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Thanks!
Thanks for trying to unblock me. I do most of my editting with my phone and I do a lot of travelling between different states and provinces. That block only affected me while I was in Manitoba. Now that I'm not there, I'm free to edit once again. I'm returning to Manitoba in a few hours and once again I'll be blocked. When there, I'll fill in the missing field for the unblock request as I no longer get the blocked message here in Saskatchewan. This is the 2nd time this has happened to me. Masterhatch (talk) 20:57, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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- Thanks! Yeah, and it started out at least plausibly well. :( --Yamla (talk) 22:34, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
psst...
this user isn't new. PRAXIDICAE💕 15:35, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, commented there. --Yamla (talk) 15:40, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
Smiles for miles!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
Message from the English Vikidia
Good evening, Yamla. My name is Christian and I'm an administrator on the English Vikidia wiki. I wanted to make you aware that in the last few moments, we've had a rather disturbing message from an IP address, asking for us to kill you.
We have hidden the revision from the page it was posted at, our requests for administrators area, but wanted to make you aware of the threat. For your information, the IP was 97.85.150.223. We have rangeblock this IP back to /16 to stop any IP changes evading our block.
If you have any questions, please feel free to post a message here, or contact me on our Admin requests board at https://en.vikidia.org/wiki/Vikidia:Requests/Administrators
Many thanks, Dane|Geld 23:40, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, DaneGeld. Here on en.wiki, we use WP:EMERGENCY in such situations. This person has made threats to kill me here, too. They have publicly disclosed (over at User talk:97.85.150.223) they are Sinlu22, a user with a long history of abuse across many accounts (see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sinlu22/Archive). In the end, not much to be done here other than for us to notify our emergency people. Death threats are, unfortunately, a common tool of trolls. I'm very sorry you folks are having to deal with this person. Thanks for letting me know, I appreciate it. --Yamla (talk) 10:03, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- (reported to our WP:EMERGENCY folks, for the record) --Yamla (talk) 10:09, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, Yamla. Beloved as ever. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:55, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yamla - I think we might have a breakthrough. Vikidia admins this morning have been contacted by a user simply calling themselves Sin Lu, who (apparently) is a Vietnamese school student, whose school email account was hacked by another student who was bullying them. This is what became sinlu22 from what I understand. I have left a message for this user back at our site, explaining that we are not connected to Wikipedia, but we do share information with the site, and that I'd notify you of what they have said. Hopefully we can get to the bottom of this and help you to knock these threats on the head. As I said earlier, you can either leave me a note here or on the Admin's board at Vikidia. Stay happy! Dane|Geld 08:51, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, Yamla. Beloved as ever. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:55, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
Where there's
a will there's a way. 😀 --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:33, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- True! I'm hoping my will gets finalised soon. These days, some law firms let you just fill in answers from a fancy auto-generation template, then convert what you say into legalese. Much easier than the last time I did one! --Yamla (talk) 17:34, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- I gotta do that. Not getting any younger. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:36, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Mine was about $700 Canadian, though it's not yet finished. (I'm not a lawyer but) wills are primarily useful if you want to divide up your estate in a way different to how it would be divided up by default. If you are married and just want to leave everything to your spouse, probably not worth getting a will. These days, though, so very many of us are in more complicated circumstances. :) --Yamla (talk) 17:42, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- I gotta do that. Not getting any younger. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:36, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Back to normal...
... or as normal as it gets in these parts. Normal service was resume about half an hour ago. I'm fairly sure it was my anti-virus being objectionable. Weird business, Huh? Haploidavey (talk) 19:33, 27 May 2022 (UTC) Thanks again!
- Excellent! And... yeah. Anti-virus software routing everything through their own proxies is somewhat concerning from a privacy point of view. I get why they do it, but, yeech. --Yamla (talk) 20:28, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Vandal needs TPA revoked
Hi. I was looking for an active admin since I can't report this at AIV. It would seem that Just being-sad needs to have talk page access revoked. TornadoLGS (talk) 21:05, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- I protected their talk page for 3 days to give them a chance to cool off. Hard to imagine a successful unblock request there, mind you. --Yamla (talk) 21:07, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Whenever someone says that to me, want to say, "and you as well". --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:09, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- TBH, I don't mind the venting. People have said worse to me IRL --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:10, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Whenever someone says that to me, want to say, "and you as well". --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:09, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
Could you have a look? Reasonable to restore TPA? Decline? Best --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:52, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think there's enough there to restore TPA. I'll take care of it. --Yamla (talk) 20:07, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- What TPA on UTRS you mean. Krantler (talk) 17:09, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) The unblock request on UTRS possessed sufficient merit to allow the appellant to request unblocking on their talk page, rather than being declined om UTRS. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:38, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- What TPA on UTRS you mean. Krantler (talk) 17:09, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – June 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2022).
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Guideline and policy news
- Several areas of improvement collated from community member votes have been identified in the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement guidelines. The areas of improvement have been sent back for review and you are invited to provide input on these areas.
Technical news
- Administrators using the mobile web interface can now access Special:Block directly from user pages. (T307341)
- The IP Info feature has been deployed to all wikis as a Beta Feature. Any autoconfirmed user may enable the feature using the "IP info" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features. Autoconfirmed users will be able to access basic information about an IP address that includes the country and connection method. Those with advanced privileges (admin, bureaucrat, checkuser) will have access to extra information that includes the Internet Service Provider and more specific location.
Arbitration
- Remedy 2 of the Rachel Marsden case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to delete or reduce to a stub, together with their talk pages, articles related to Rachel Marsden when they violate Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy.
- An arbitration case regarding WikiProject Tropical Cyclones has been closed.
Possibly of interest
Don't know if this is of any interest to you, but thought I'd mention it. Cheers, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 09:47, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- That's a weird comment for that person to make. Not quite sure what to do there. --Yamla (talk) 12:32, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- It's odd. We can leave it at that. Cheers, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 08:46, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
Account at English Vikidia
Good morning Yamla! This is a verification request from English Vikidia. An account has been made on our site this morning, named "Yamla from the English Wikipedia".
Could you please verify whether you have made an account on the site please? As a security measure, I've blocked it until I can confirm whether it's you or not! Thanks, Dane|Geld 07:28, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- This is NOT my account. I do not have an account on the English Vikidia. --10:16, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- @DaneGeld: (talk page watcher) Jumping in to say if y'all have checkuser capabilities over there, you might want to look for a master and for sleepers. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:22, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Most likely, it's going to be Sinlu22. No idea why they are fascinated with me, though. --Yamla (talk) 11:25, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the confirmation, Yamla. I will leave the account indefinitely blocked and mark it as a suspected sock of Sinlu22 for now. @Deepfriedokra: I personally don't have checkuser capabilities, but I will ask one of our CUs to go over the account; there's a couple of IPs which we can try to link to this account, and see if we can start building some sort of profile of Yamla's stalker. Dane|Geld 17:28, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Most likely, it's going to be Sinlu22. No idea why they are fascinated with me, though. --Yamla (talk) 11:25, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- @DaneGeld: (talk page watcher) Jumping in to say if y'all have checkuser capabilities over there, you might want to look for a master and for sleepers. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:22, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
Talk-Page Access
I noticed that you extended [the block for this user]. Can you take away their talk page access too? They're repeating the same drivel.$chnauzer 16:37, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- That was really, really bad. Yeah, revoked. --Yamla (talk) 16:40, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Question About Dead Links
If a link is dead but there is some Wikidata info about the linked subject how can it be linked? -99.209.44.10 (talk) 17:49, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm not sure. WP:HELPDESK would know the answer, though! --Yamla (talk) 19:56, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Question
Hello, I recently got my post removed for "not a good source"(paraphrasing). Yamla, what source is better than a video detailing the effects and showing that Hibiscus is truly a soapy plant, would you like to me to list a scientific article, that source may not be the best but it is still a source, a source that cites correctly what I said and confirms it. Thank you.99.209.44.10 (talk) 14:39, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Knock off the bogus linking. Do that again and I'm blocking you. WP:RS explains what constitutes a reliable source. --Yamla (talk) 17:03, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
is banned. Could you not the most recent evasion in a green comment? For the archive continuity. Thanks --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:20, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Certainly! I'll do so after I brew some coffee. Thanks, Deepfriedokra! --Yamla (talk) 10:42, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
99.209.44.10
Please revoke TPA. This user has been trolling their talk page for the past hour, including adding nonsense images and breaking the page in general. 47.227.95.73 (talk) 18:08, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Done (by another admin). --Yamla (talk) 18:30, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
My Block
Hi Yamla
Wikipedia's guide to appealing a block doesn't actually tell users what to do in the case of multiple blocks. I appealed my block, and the IP block I received at the same time, because I thought I had to appeal each block. You told me that it was abusive to appeal in both places, which I didn't know because I've never been blocked before and the policy doesn't say what to do.
Unfortunately, my block on this account expired so it was closed, but the other blocks I got at the same time (which had different time frames) haven't expired. So now I've once again put an appeal in for the IP address here.
It's really not clear what I'm supposed to do. If I appeal each block individually, I'm told that's abusive. But when I appealed just in one place, the other two blocks weren't addressed before the appeal was closed because the block expired. Any guidance you can provide would be appreciated! RandomBlobby (talk) 17:52, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- You should stick to your account. You are welcome to appeal the block, but most admins will tell you to just stick to one single account. --Yamla (talk) 18:27, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. My account is now retired. I only ever wanted to edit via IP, but Wikipedia has changed since I last seriously edited and now to make new pages you have to use AfC. I don't remember having to do that 15 years ago. To not be a burden on other users (e.g. I made 18 pages in 3 days) I made an account solely for the purpose of page creation. I didn't think that would be controversial. For whatever reason, it seems to be. Seeing as it's one or the other, I've retired my account and will solely edit with IP, and I'll just put any new pages through AfC. There's no legitimate reason for my IP to be blocked, nor ThirteenToThirty which I will not use on Wikipedia... and only accidentally used it once on WP -- it's my account for Commons. RandomBlobby (talk) 23:36, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
UTRS appeal #59809
This probably needs a Checkuser, and since you combine that role with being active at UTRS, perhaps you would like to look at it. JBW (talk) 16:13, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll take a look. --Yamla (talk) 17:59, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
New message from Abdullah Al Noman
Message added 17:02, 23 June 2022 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Abdullah☆ (Talk) 17:02, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, responded there. --Yamla (talk) 18:04, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Your unblock decline made me laugh
Loved it. Such a convincing story and you didn’t believe it? How stupid to some people think we are? Doug Weller talk 18:26, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, sometimes unblock patrol is a little amusing. :) --Yamla (talk) 18:32, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- New unblock request saying they lied. Doug Weller talk 19:10, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'm shocked! Shocked, I say. Well, not that shocked. --Yamla (talk) 19:33, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- New unblock request saying they lied. Doug Weller talk 19:10, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
CU request
Hi, Yamla. I wonder if you would mind helping out, wearing your CheckUser hat. A Chinese editor is asking for IP block exemption because of the Chinese censorship problem. I see this as a clear case to accept, but it was made clear to me many years ago that even in the most straightforward cases a CU should be consulted before giving IPBE. In 2019 the editor was given IP block exemption temporarily for a year, and invited to apply for an extension when that time was coming to an end, but they didn't. The editor has over 120,000 contributions to Chinese Wikipedia, and has IP block exemption there. As far as I can see there are no problems with the account except for username blocks on Turkish and Arabic Wikipedias, and likewise on English Wikipedia until I unblocked. The username has been changed, so the reason for those blocks no longer applies. The account is 日期20220626. JBW (talk) 12:01, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'll take a look and comment there. Heading back out on vacation this morning, but not for a couple of hours. :) --Yamla (talk) 12:03, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for dealing with that. Have a good vacation. JBW (talk) 12:34, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Hey. User claims unable to edit talk page. Reply about message received when trying to edit makes no sense. Any underlying block? Maybe you can help them. I get nowhere. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:59, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- I left a comment there. No block that would cause this, as far as I can see. --Yamla (talk) 00:41, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- I think they're literally seeing the "You are currently blocked" message and not understanding they can still edit the user talk page. -- ferret (talk) 00:48, 4 July 2022 (UTC)