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June 2

'Hydroelectricity' and 'Renewable water resources'

Dear Sir,

Since, India doesn't Produce hydroelectricity, It Imports 98 percent of hydroelectricity from Nepal. So How India has been listed there,Nepal has got highest potentiality in the world to produce hydroelectricity, so why Nepal wasn't listed. Similarly, Nepal is the world's second richest country in water resources, but why Russia come second under Highest Renewable Water Resources in the world. I hope right information will be imparted to Readers Correcting the mistakes provide above.

Yours Sincerly,Reader — Preceding unsigned comment added by 36.253.171.9 (talk) 00:15, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Do you have reliable sources for your assertions? If you do, please present those sources at the talk pages of the articles in question, so others can read and evaluate them, and make the changes you request. Alternately, you could make the fixes to the article yourself, so long as you properly cite your sources for the changes. --Jayron32 00:40, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Carly Rae Jepsen Wikipedia Page

Hi- I am Carly Rae Jepsen's personal assistant. We noticed that her page lists "Van Halen" as one of her favorite musicians. Please change it to "Van Morrison". She grew up listening to Van Morrison with her dad. Not Van Halen. She gets asked about Van Halen in interviews all the time and this is incorrect. Thanks! 70.90.241.235 (talk) 01:44, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

The Carly Rae Jepsen page has a valid reference to a Time article that quotes her as saying she likes Van Halen, so I'm not sure we should change this on the basis of an anonymous comment.

If you can provide one or more valid references that state it's Van Morrison, not Van Halen, the article can be changed. Truthanado (talk) 02:12, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

 Done Lots of sources listing Morrison as an influence. I chose two. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 22:13, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit count on User contributions page does not work

In the past day, the Edit count at the bottom of my User contributions page repeatedly gives a Page not found error when I click on that link. Specifically, I get the following:

Page not found (404)

The page you requested was not found on this server. This could be because:

You followed a broken or outdated link

You typed the page address incorrectly

The page no longer exists, or has moved to a new address

If you followed a link from another page, please inform the owner of that page about the broken link. Your browser sent this as the referring URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Truthanado

If you think you are receiving this page in error, or you have a question, please contact the owner of this document: tparis [at] toolserver [dot] org.

HTTP server at toolserver.org - ts-admins [at] toolserver [dot] org

Can someone please investigate and see what the problem is. This link has been working for years. Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 01:57, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

It seems to be working for me. Could you please copy and paste the URL that returns the 404 error? WikiPuppies _bark ^dig 03:46, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

It's working again. FYI, the URL link was http://toolserver.org/~tparis/count/index.php?name=Truthanado&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia Truthanado (talk) 04:33, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

TParis's tools are available only sporadically due to Toolserver issues, see WP:VPT#Toolserver_issues. Theopolisme (talk) 05:12, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Update: the edit counter can now be found at http://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/pcount/index.php Theopolisme (talk) 05:28, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Toolserver is being retired with its content gradually being moved over to tools.wmflabs.org - There are two hatnotes at the top of WP:Toolserver that lead to further pages detailing the process, but unfortunately the information is scattered over a variety of different pages so expect to do quite a lot of browsing if you want to be fully updated on the current situation. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:54, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

alphabetizing a last name in categories ...

The last name of the subject of the article "Jennifer von Mayrhauser" starts with a "v" -- but if you click on a category at the bottom of the page and go there, you find the name is alphabetized under "M". Is there anyway to make sure that the last name is recognized as "von Mayrhauser"? Thanks very much. DocFido (talk) 05:14, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Hey Doc--this is controlled by {{DEFAULTSORT}}, found at the bottom of the article. I've updated it for you. Theopolisme (talk) 05:26, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

sorry

Hello,

i was not knowing how to write a article? so i was following other people and i got lost. please include my article. i am very sorry and i will not copy and do any un lawful act according to wikipedia rules. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mogisahmed (talk • contribs) 08:13, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

I am assuming that one of your articles got deleted because you copied and pasted from an external website. Well, what I recommend is that you rewrite the article in your own words and AfC it. jcc (tea and biscuits) 12:09, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Right, had a look. The article in your sandbox has two big problems.

1. Copied and pasted from your external links section. This means that instead of quoting the source like this: <ref>website url here</ref> you just put the links in the external sources section.

2. Already exists on Wikipedia, here. I think you know this, as you recently contributed to the article. Once you fixed the problems in 1. you should merge your sandbox and the two together. However, I can't see Crescent English School surviving long on Wikipedia with no references, unless someone helps out. jcc (tea and biscuits) 12:39, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

The sandbox was a wholesale copyright violations and has been deleted, as was some of the the content of the current article.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:14, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

The Royal Scots Dragoon guards

Hello,

I'm just writing to inform you that the tactical recognition flash you have on the site is upside down. The TRF should follow the shape of an M from the sides rather than a W.

Thanks for your help in correcting this matter.

Regards

A serving SNCO in the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.93.158.95 (talk) 11:58, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Well, Wikipeda is the Wiki anyone can (mostly) edit so why not do it yourself? See WP:Picture tutorial for help, or I'm sure one of the more picture-wise editors here can help you out. However, we at Wikipedia need some sources that show the TRF the "right" way round, to show us that what you say is correct (of course, it may be correct, you just need to prove it). Also, remember to sign your posts on talk pages (like this) with ~~~~. Thanks, jcc (tea and biscuits) 12:13, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

how to use wikipedia

how to use wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.51.118.19 (talk) 12:34, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Take a look at Wikipedia:Tutorial which tells you all you need to know about editing wikipedia. Remember to sign your posts on like talk pages like this: ~~~~ jcc (tea and biscuits) 12:50, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

• For questions you can try the wp:Tea House:

A friendly place to help new editors become accustomed to Wikipedia culture, ask questions, and develop community relationships. XOttawahitech (talk) 14:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Help:Wikipedia: The Missing Manual may help you. If you are asking how to use Wikipedia as a reader, Wikipedia:FAQ/Readers and Reader’s Guide to Wikipedia might help you.···Vanischenu^「m/_Talk」 18:43, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Citations All Appear as the Same Source

I'm creating a new page in my sandbox (User:Markbailey71/sandbox) and although there are various citations from various sources many of them appear as if they are from the same source, under the same number in the references section. I've tried re-inserting them but it always does the same thing. Any thoughts? Markbailey71 (talk) 14:49, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

That's because you are giving them the same ref name (that is <ref name="Mark Bailey">). Give them different ref names. Hope that helps, jcc (tea and biscuits) 14:56, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

See WP:REFNAME for the right use of ref name. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:59, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

You could simply eliminate "ref name" entirely as none of the references are actually repeated. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:14, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Cool! Thank you so much... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markbailey71 (talk • contribs) 15:18, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Ballast Point Park

I just wrote an article about Ballast Point Park in Tampa, Florida. Because it has similar information to the Ballast Point article it was flagged by the MadBot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heditor6 (talk • contribs) 15:06, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

You have misread the notification template - the article has been flagged because it contains material copied from another source (click on 'Duplication Detector report' to see the details). This is a copyright violation, and will have to be rectified. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:14, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Bob White/Irv Miller

Would like to ask why my profile was omitted. I am a member of the Wisconsin museum of broadcast history. Title-Bob White/Irv Miller. Please review itand satisfy yourself with my credentials. <removed> - User:Irnet31

What profile? and what was it omitted from? Maproom (talk) 17:33, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

I'd guess that "profile" means "Wikipedia biographical article". Looking here, it appears that Irv Miller was a local radio broadcaster in the 1950s. Oddly enough (given the claim above) I don't find either Bob White or Irv Miller at the Hall of Fame Gallery at the Wisconsin Broadcasting Museum.

In any case, a basic answer is (a) Wikipedia articles about people require that they be notable; (b) there are certainly omissions in what Wikipedia has articles about, but it's up to individual contributors (volunteers) to decide what to write about; and (c) individuals are strongly discouraged from writing an article about themselves. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 15:23, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Bob White/irv Miller is a member of The Wis. Museum of Broadcast History not The Wis Hall oF Fame. The profile was featured for years on the Website Under WMBH.

Commercial back door advertisement on CLAT article

Sirs,

On link :-

Common Law Admission Test

following paragraph:-

<<<advertising removed>>>

is clear violation of non commercial approach of wikipedia... as it is stating name of LawPrep Tutorial... and its founder name... also it compares with other institute SriRam coaching institute ....

IS IT RIGHT TO DO SUCH BACK DOOR ADVERTISEMENT? WHO WILL TRUST WIKIPEDIA?

SUCH COACHING CLASSES GIVES WRONG DATA OF SUCCESSFUL STUDENTS BY VARIOUS METHODS ..

Please remove above paragraph... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.208.39.101 (talk) 16:30, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

The paragraph in question was only added today - I've deleted it as the blatant advertising it clearly is. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:37, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

...and we don't want search engines finding it on this help desk page either, so I've removed it. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:50, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Takashi Miike Wiki page.

Hello. I have a problem with the japanese director Takashi Miike page. I tried to update the page, and end up deforming the page. This was not an act of vandalism. Please help, I was trying to update the page and almost erase the information about Takashi Miike. Takashi Miike

UltraIce (talk) 17:19, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

I've reverted your edit. Rojomoke (talk) 17:27, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you and sorry for the trouble. UltraIce (talk) 17:34, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Fixed in [1]. A table must end with |} on a new line. Otherwise the following may be interpreted as part of the table with odd results. |} was removed in [2]. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Wikitables in List of pharaohs

I am working on List of pharaohs and trying to get all the wikitables the same. Is it possible to make them all the same size? Irrelevant of how long for instance the text is in the comment section? See for the difference the first dynasty and second dynasty. I would like to have them all full screen as in first dynasty. Garion96 (talk) 19:45, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

I've made an edit to three of the tables. I set the overall width of the tables by adding a "width=" parameter after "class=wikitable". Then I set the column widths using percentages so that they adjust themselves to the window width. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:28, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Ah, so that's how you do it. Thanks!! Garion96 (talk) 09:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

uploading a picture from wikimedia commons into an article on wikipedia

i have registered but still uncorfirmed. i have uploaded a picture in wikimedia commons but i can't uplode it into an article in wikipedia. could i ask someone to do it for me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcrbmc (talk • contribs) 19:54, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Does Wikipedia:Picture tutorial help? --Jayron32 19:56, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

I fixed it for you. See this edit. Garion96 (talk) 19:59, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

thanks j — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcrbmc (talk • contribs) 20:16, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Experienced User Returning After a Long Absence, Need Help!

Good afternoon all,

My username is technically new to Wikipedia, however, I have been editing here for a long time. In fact I once used VandalProof regularly, created a number of pages, and was considered for adminship. I left Wikipedia for a while because I lost interest, but I am back and would like to jump in where I left off. However, I don't quite know where to begin; a lot of things have changed.

I would like to resume my presence on here as an experienced person, rather than a noob, so I am wondering if anyone can recommend a good program that helps fight vandalism. I feel this would be my way of getting back into the full swing of Wikipedia. All help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!CarringtonEnglish T C 21:15, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back. Try Twinkle: Preferences → Gadgets → Twinkle, a set of tools that automates common tasks such as reporting vandalism, warning vandals, requesting deletion, welcoming users, and tagging articles. --  Gadget850 ^talk 21:54, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! I'll do that! CarringtonEnglish T C 21:58, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back, you might find Wikipedia:Update helpful.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 22:22, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Can anyone help me on how to get permission to use Huggle? Or is my username too new for that?CarringtonEnglish T C 23:20, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

The admins at WP:RFP/R will look through your contributions to see if you are ready for the rollback permission. So spend a while using Twinkle, taking care to choose between the three "rollback" buttons correctly; here is an admin asking for a "couple of hundred" vandalism reverts. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:52, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Article-centric editor interaction anaylzer?

Hey fellow editors, I'm trying to track down a tool similar to the Editor Interaction Analyzer but on the article side. That is, I'd like to input a bunch of articles to see who the common editors were, for sock-hunting purposes. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:03, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't entirely understand. You say that you are interested in looking for sockpuppets, which is a useful mission, since sockpuppets are disruptive to Wikipedia. But sockpuppets seldom contribute constructively to articles. Please explain in more detail. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:26, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

If a group of editors all edit the same articles, it could be indication that they are sockpuppets of each other. That's what he means. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:11, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

I agree that if a group of editors all edit the same articles that are being disruptively edited, they may be sockpuppets. Sockpuppets seldom do constructive editing. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:51, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

"If a group of editors all edit the same articles, it could be indication that they are" members of a relevant WikiProject, so it's not necessarily indicative of wrongdoing. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:28, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Of course not. All I'm saying is that it would a useful tool to use in the process of investigating sockpuppetry, which does not necessarily result in any positive finding. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:31, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Hey guys, I suppose I could have laid out more info, but I was aiming for brevity. I'm familiar with sock shenanigans and have reported several with decent success. So I'm aware of the criteria, and I try to make a strong case. I'm looking for a tool to facilitate this process. My aim isn't simply to find common editors across a number of articles (because as some of you have pointed out, lots of people would be common, including administrators reverting the changes). I'd also be looking at talk pages (to see if they had been blocked/warned, etc), looking at edits for textual and behavioral similarities, etc., in order to build that strong case. I've noticed that while some vandals operate within a narrow field of interest, some operate across articles with seemingly no connection to each other. So finding the common editors across a wide field of articles, would narrow down the list of potential socks. Or so I am imagining. Does such a tool exist? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:07, 3 June 2013 (UTC)