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October 1

Echota Cherokee

Slander and bias is written on the article about this State recognized tribe and I am trying to correct it! Help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by HFriedrich30 (talk • contribs) 00:12, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

You persist in removing properly cited information, with fully formatted references. This is disruptive behavior, and can get you blocked if you persist. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:35, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Help me!

I have created a page which is in initial Draft stage, I can see that is in draft state from last 2 weeks; could you please let me know generally how much time it takes to review by moderators and get my page published? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rashid Jorvee (talk • contribs) 03:50, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Rashid Jorvee Greeting to you. the current review backlog of Article for Creation is about 8-10 weeks. Kindly be patient as we the reviews are all volunteers and are trying to get the review done as soon as possible. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 03:54, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

CASSIOPEIA Thank You!! :)

James Middleton (British businessman)

Between references 19 and 20 there are 2 little marks. please remove if you can Thankyou 175.33.45.21 (talk) 05:41, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Fix this and a couple of other punctuation problems. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:13, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

James Matthews (racing driver)

In the section on this page titled Glen Affric Estate - the word "Deer" should, I think, only be like this "deer" (in lower case). I cannot get this to occur. Please fix if able. Thanks175.33.45.21 (talk) 05:45, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Fixed. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:09, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Getting published

I have been trying to publish a new article for over a month and every time I publish it gets declined by the same person David.moreno72 with no proper explanation. The Article is Leah Panapa and has been in my Sandbox for 48 days. The explanation is an insufficient citation, however, I have provided as many links for facts as possible. I need to understand how to fix the issue not flat a rejection every time. His rejection is actually the insufficiency. Mikeynez (talk) 08:34, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

@Mikeynez: Your draft has been rejected for notability, which I must agree with. You must demonstrate that the person you are writing about has significant, in depth coverage in independent reliable sources that indicates how they meet the notability guidelines as WP:BIO. Some of your references are actually Wikipedia articles, which are not valid references as Wikipedia is not a reliable source. You cannot use a Wikipedia article to source another Wikipedia article. 331dot (talk) 08:41, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

If you look again at User:Mikeynez/sandbox and at your user talk page, you will see that the submission was declined by 2 different reviewers. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:59, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

How to remove 'Draft' from the title?

Hello,

I just published this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:DeAsra_Foundation. Is is under review? How to remove the word 'Draft' from it? I have created a page for the deAsra Foundation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deasraf (talk • contribs) 09:31, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Deasraf Greetings to you. A draft page is page has not been published. When a Wikipedia the draft page is reviewed by a Wikipedia reviewer and deem the subject is notable and the content is supported by independent, reliable sources, then the article will be then be published and the "draft" will be removed. thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 09:39, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Edit Conflict] It is under review, according to the large buff-toned information box now at the top of it. If it is accepted by the reviewer(s) they will move it to the correct title.

Please note that it is not (a draft of) "a page for the subject", it is (a draft of) an article about the subject. This may seem like a pedantic difference, but it isn't. "Page for . . ." would imply that it was here for the benefit of, and under the control of, the subject: this is not how Wikipedia operates – it will be an article about the subject controlled collectively by Wikipedia editors, which can potentially be anyone except for any persons connected to the subject, who will be strongly discouraged from editing it themselves, although they will be welcome to offer reference-based suggestions on its Talk page for other, disinterested, editors to consider and implement (or not).

[And while I was typing the above, It has now been declined for the reasons given in the new pink box!] {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.217.102.65 (talk) 09:48, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

I've now blocked Deasraf indefinitely (Spam user name making promotional edits) and deleted the draft as advertising by a paid editor Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:01, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Village Pump

Hi! What's the criteria for presenting new proposals at the village pump? Can anyone present them? Knightrises10 (talk) 11:48, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Yes, Knightrises10, anyone can present them. Feel free to post to Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) if your proposal is something specific. If you're not quite sure about your proposal yet, you can discuss it at Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab) first. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 11:59, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

It's a good idea to check WP:Perennial proposals first, Knightrises10, to make sure that it hasn't already been suggested and rejected. --ColinFine (talk) 16:24, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

I strongly encourage using the idea lab after checking perennial proposals. While you may think your proposal is quite specific, experience shows that opening it up to the community raises a number of issues that might require tinkering or modification. Doing this at the idea lab allows you to work out the kinks and then you could propose it at the proposal section for an up or down vote. (One of the reasons the idea lab exists is that some people would submit a proposal to the proposal page, some would support, some would oppose and some would identify issues requiring modification. The proposal would get modified, but then it's easy to lose track of whether the support votes are for the original proposal or the modified proposal. Relatively easy to manage with one modification but quickly gets out of hand if there are substantial modifications. Far better to sort those out before asking for support and opposition !votes)--S Philbrick(Talk) 19:44, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

No subject

Hi, Just i wanted to let you that in Silk Smitha page under selected filmography the 1984 Telugu movie "Abhimanyudu" it is showing new film 2018 details.

But actual film stars acted are Sobhan babu, Radhika etc.

I request you to change this ASAP.

Thanking you

Ravi Kumar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravigvrk79 (talk • contribs) 14:12, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing this out, Ravigvrk79. It seems that there is a new film with that title in Telugu, and the article Silk Smitha had an existing redlink which now was pointing to the wrong film. I have changed the link so that it points to the (currently non-existent) article Abhimanyudu (1984 film). In future, the talk page of the article (in this case Talk:Silk Smitha) is a better place for this sort of comment. --ColinFine (talk) 16:33, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Need a new page

Wikipedia has a page called "List of professional sportspeople convicted of crimes" but no "list of Hollywood Celebrities convicted of crimes". How do we get THAT page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:A000:ECC0:4200:A854:C8B8:83BE:7A70 (talk) 15:25, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Somebody has to create it first. Given Wikipedia is run purely by volunteers, this may take some time though. Sakura Cartelet^Talk 15:27, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Talk:List of professional sportspeople convicted of crimes shows three nominations for deletion with no consensus. "Hollywood Celebrities" sounds vague and arbitrary. I doubt a list would survive a nomination. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:03, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

When using a notice for a spinoff article on the primary article

When I made a new article that moved information into a list, such as "List of (insert series) characters", I had to submit it as a draft. Since it is to take one or two months for a review, how would I go about making a notice on the primary series article that it is in the middle of construction?

I am aware that you cannot link to drafts, but is it possible to do this by using a template that could be placed in the spin-off section? NowIsntItTime 15:40, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

I think it would make sense to note this on the article talk page, but not in the article itself.--S Philbrick(Talk) 19:39, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Help Changing Title!

Hello, I need help, as I created a new page but I cannot turn it from a draft to a normal page? Even the name I cannot change to simply "SyArt Gallery" instead of "Draft: SyArt Gallery". Could you please fix this or show how I could fix this? URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:SyArt_Gallery?action=edit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielalopez0508 (talk • contribs) 15:48, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Danielalopez0508, I've deleted your draft as blatant spam, I'll post guidance on your talk page shortly. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:53, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

It was also a copyright violation from http://www.syartgallery.com/en/galleria/ . --David Biddulph (talk) 15:54, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

David Biddulph, thanks. I posted a warning about not copying material on his talk, but i didn'y actually check Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:06, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Weird Unicode error only in Firefox on Windows

This page has an odd rendering problem for me: Box_Drawing

Details on the talk page. Basically, one character is rendering as another in Firefox on Windows 7. Firefox on Red Hat doesn't have the problem, and Chrome and IE on the same Windows 7 box don't, and the characters render ok when copied and pasted out of the Wikipedia page. — PhilHibbs | talk 16:04, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Hmm, looking at the template, I don't see anything that could be causing this. PhilHibbs, can you let me know if any of the following render correctly?

1 (2546): ╆

2 (2545,2546): ╅, ╆

3 (2545 and 2546 in a simplified table):

╅

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4 (2545 and 2546 in a styled table):

U+254x

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5 (254x and headers and footers):

Box Drawing[1] Official Unicode Consortium code chart (PDF)

0

1

2

3

4

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6

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A

B

C

D

E

F

U+254x

╀

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Notes 1.^ As of Unicode version 11.0

LittlePuppers (talk) 16:38, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

They're all rendering wrong in Firefox 62.0.2 on Windows 10. It looks to me as if the error is in the font that Firefox is using on Windows. (The glyphs look significantly different on Chrome, so it is presumably using a different font). --ColinFine (talk) 16:45, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

PhilHibbs, any rendering is done by the browser and it's fonts. The browser just receives numbers for these characters. The browser then picks the font and the font provides the 'glyph' (image). Errors for symbols that are more rare is rather common, especially on Windows where traditionally a lot of incomplete fonts used to be installed. The Operating System vendors also tend to be very unresponsive to fixing these problems :( —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 07:38, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Article review request

Hi!

Would you kindly review updates made for this page? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jensen_Noen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artlab agency (talk • contribs) 22:17, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

I've improved the style and the formatting. A more serious problem is the lack of any references that establish the subject's notability. Maproom (talk) 07:45, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

'Jon Magrin' page

Hi,

I made an edit (at the request of the subject of the wiki page), but it was reverted as it wasn't seen as 'constructive' by glane23. The issue that I agreed to change was the image of Jon Magrin- an editor changed it to a rather unflattering one last year and Jon thinks it was an unhappy rugby fan who might've been annoyed at his departure from his team last year. I want to change the image but i dont know how to without getting kick-back. Please help! thanks Rugbyfangirl19 (talk) 22:28, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

If it had just been the image that might have been fine but you removed the entire infobox. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 22:32, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Rugbyfangirl19. What nobody seems to have explained to you yet is that is that if you were editing on the request of the subject of an article, you have a conflict of interest, and you are discouraged from editing the article directly. You (and he) are welcome to request changes, by posting on the article's talk page. In general, we will not change an article just because the subject doesn't like what is said (assuming that the content complies with Wikipedia's policies). But editors will usually be symphathetic to proposed improvements if they don't appear to be too self-serving.

In the case of a photo, I see why he might not like the picture File:Jonathan Magrin.jpg, but I think that it is the clearest of the three pictures currently in Wikimedia Commons in the category commons:Category:Jon Magrin. One way round this is to upload a new picture of him: there may be copyright problems using an existing picture of him (the copyright owner would need to explicitly release it under a suitable licence); but if you were able to take a picture of him, for example, you would own the copyright in that picture, and you could release it as you uploaded it: see Help:Upload. If you do that, and suggest on the talk page that your picture be used, I can't see anybody refusing if it is a good likeness. --ColinFine (talk) 20:45, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

helllo

My connection is not private

when i try youtube it says attackers might be trying to steal my infomation from www.youtube.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dustin1988 (talk • contribs) 22:35, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

@Dustin1988: this is the help desk for Wikipedia, only, not for everything that happens on the Internet. Sorry. Most messages for the type you saw are themselves dangerous hoaxes. Just ignore them. If you have questions about just about anything (except how to use or edit Wikipedia) Try the Wikipedia:Reference desk. -Arch dude (talk) 22:42, 1 October 2018 (UTC)