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June 10

Need help with RM

Hello a day or so ago I tried creating a requested move for the Just like Fire Would article as can be seen on its talk page. However it isn't listed at Requested moves, and the bot doesn't seem to notice it either. Could someone help fix this? Sakura Cartelet^Talk 00:19, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

It appears to be listed now. OkayKenji ^{(talk page)} 04:59, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Looking at the Diff {{requested move/dated|Just Like Fire Would}} and your signature was not added as it normally will do when there is a contested technical request. Not sure why exactly that occurred. WP:RM#TR says:

"If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~.

If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page."

I clicked "discuss" on the page mentioned above, and {{requested move/dated|Just Like Fire Would}} was in the edit I made. Perhaps its a bug? But it is listed now. OkayKenji ^{(talk page)} 05:18, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Weird edits I've never made?

Uhh... hi there. I'm not a logged in user but I suddenly got random messages about new edits on pages that I haven't even visited (Guantanamo Bay and Jack something-or-other). What's all this about? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.7.219.118 (talk) 08:35, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

If you have no knowledge of such edits, then other persons made them under the same IP address that you are using. 331dot (talk) 08:43, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

You may have noticed that the warning about Guantanamo Bay was dated 2010, and about the other article was dated last year. The contributions from your IP address can be seen at Special:Contributions/202.7.219.118, accessible through the "Contributions" link at the top right of every Wikipedia page. At the foot of your use talk page it says: "If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so you can avoid further irrelevant notices." --David Biddulph (talk) 08:47, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

If you are not a registered user, then all Wikipedia knows about these edits is what IP they were made from. It has no knowledge about whether they were made by the same physical person. So it is probable that your IP address is shared among other people and these edits were made when the IP address was used by some other person. JIP | Talk 09:36, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Adding tabular column, topics ad images

How do I add tabular column, images and headings in the page which I created? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krithika Raj (talk • contribs) 13:27, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

@Krithika Raj: You might want to review the information at Help:Introduction. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 22:54, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

rotary valve - Use in production engines section

This section is now out of date:

RCV Engines no longer develops or produces the scooter engine. Current engines are smaller capacity single/twin and four cylinder multi-fuel engines used in a variety of platforms including: forest and garden machinery, unmanned systems, hybrid range extenders, fixed and rotary wing UAV, marine applications and more.

Key attributes to the RCV design is its ability to run on a variety of fuels due to its unique combustion. Many engines struggle to run using heavy fuels (jet fuels) however RCV are able to switch between with no measurable power loss. This also allows for the ability to remote start. See https://www.rcvengines.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rcv engines (talk • contribs) 13:50, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

The place to suggest changes is on the article's talk page: Talk:Rotary valve. I will put a note on your user talk page about your user name. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:02, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Editing Information about me

Sir this is absurd that some people who have not been authorised by me hVe uploaded and created a Wikipedia false biography of me.

I tried to edit and add the proper true information but I am not allowed to make changes.

I am Deepa Jayakumar neice of former Tamilnadu chief Minister J Jayalalitha.

If the information on me is erroneous or untrue I should be allowed to edit it.

More over I would like to add more details about myself.

Either delete my profile permanently or allow me to make changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deepsands74 (talk • contribs) 14:13, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello Deepsands74 and welcome to Wikipedia. Try to start with WP:BIOSELF. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:51, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Houston Ebony Opera Guild

Dear Wikipedia leadership and volunteers,

Houston Ebony Opera Guild appreciates having a Wikipedia listing. However, our street address has changed.

CORRECT ADDRESS IN JUNE 2020:

Houston Ebony Opera Guild 1600 Main Street Suite # 15 Houston, Texas, 77002

VERIFICATION: Houston Ebony Opera Guild is located in the office building owned by MATCH (Midtown Arts and Theater Center Houston)

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:E030:4EF0:FD31:F37B:D2AF:DA47 (talk) 14:15, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

The incorrect address appears to be on Google, Wikipedia doesn't have an article about Houston Ebony Opera Guild so far as I can see. You would need to contact Google directly to get it changed. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:56, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

You are mentioned in our article Culture of Houston, but without an address. --ColinFine (talk) 16:14, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Biography

Can I post my picture — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucky yvy (talk • contribs) 16:01, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Lucky yvy, Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors (take the time to read that) advice against it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:22, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Manually created new article instead of moving draft by accident

I created in 3 edits the Draft:Police_and_Unions and manually copied the content into Police_and_Unions, not realizing I needed to change the namespace. Could someone delete the Draft, or delete the article, and then move the Draft to Wikipedia namespace? All edits are mine, so shouldn't be controversial either way. Shushugah (talk) 16:34, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

This was fixed, thank you User:Calliopejen1 Shushugah (talk) 16:48, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

i couldnt make a new article

I have created an account and also im in mediawiki community but when it comes to start a new wikipedia page i couldnt log in when i log in a notice comes like ive been blocked due to some ip address please help me with this issue. thanking you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sri amsni (talk • contribs) 16:47, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi Sri amsni - You cannot create articles as your account is not yet WP:Autoconfirmed - this post was your first edit. You need to have made 10 edits and been here for at least 4 days before you can create articles. However, as creating new articles is one of the most difficult things to do, we suggest you follow the procedure in WP:Your first article - Best wishes Arjayay (talk) 17:48, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

About my first article in Wikipedia.

Dear Wikipedia help desk members,

My name is Konstantinos Patrinos and I am a physics researcher in the field of experimental high energy physics. I am writing an article using my recent Wikipedia account on the inconsistency of some experimental results with the theory of relativity. This discrepancy is substantiated in scientific publications, some of which are considered historical. I have personally identified these problems by developing a physics hypothesis based on the existence of an absolute reference system.

Although my own scientific work is already published, I will start with this first article in wikipedia, because I find that the references in articles on the agreement of theory of relativity to various experiments in social web sites are much more than references to articles relating to inconsistency of experimental results with the theory of relativity.

More specifically, regarding to the specific experiments to which I refer in the article I am now writing, using my Wikipedia account, little or not at all reference is made in social web sites regarding to the problems of inconsistency of these experimental results with the theory of relativity.

My question is:

Since I have no experience in writing articles in wikipedia, what is your opinion, according to what I mentioned before, about whether something should be taken into account or improved in this article.

Sincerely, Dr. Konstantinos Patrinos <contact information redacted> — Preceding unsigned comment added by KPatrinos (talk • contribs) 19:49, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

I am sorry, Konstantinos, but Wikipedia by intention and design is not a venue for original research or synthesis of any kind. We neither seek nor host any kind of original scholarship, because that is not our purpose. Our goal is to aggregate information already published by reliable sources. Your goal is not compatible with that model. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:59, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Follow-up to about my first article in Wikipedia

I may not have formulated the question correctly. The article I am writing aims to aggregate information already published by scientific journals.

Konstantinos Patrinos — Preceding unsigned comment added by KPatrinos (talk • contribs) 20:20, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

If by "aggregate" you mean form a synthesis and/or draw a conclusion, that still counts as original research. JIP | Talk 20:22, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

@KPatrinos: What is the name of your proposed article? The subject of a Wikipedia article must already be notable by our definition (WP:N) before the article is added. If you do a web search for the subject and cannot find multiple independent reliable sources, then the subject is not (yet) notable and any article will be deleted.-Arch dude (talk) 22:25, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Another question. Could I post a paper I have already published, using my wikipedia account, and what is the way to do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KPatrinos (talk • contribs) 23:03, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

@KPatrinos: No. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a platform for people to publish original research (even if it's already been published elsewhere, and that would present a copyright issue to be resolved as well). Please have a look at the links in the new message on your talk page to get an idea of what we're about. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:14, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

@KPatrinos: N.b., please try to use a descriptive, concise, and unique section title when posting here. Pages should not have duplicate section titles. Thanks. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:17, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Given that your work is already published, it might be possible to cite it as a reference on an already established Wikipedia article entirely unconnected to you, provided that your research actually adds value to the article and you're not just trying to promote your research. However, as has already been said, posting your research itself on Wikipedia is strictly forbidden. JIP | Talk 00:41, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

FYI

 – Combined sections by the same user about the same topic. GoingBatty (talk) 01:53, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

About the title and content of the article.

I would like your help in the following:

1) Does the title "Relativistic and non-relativistic interpretation of experimental results" that I intend to use meet the conditions?

2) In the article I am writing I use references to 10 already published scientific articles, in order to aggregate information from these articles, and I simply quote these information without any additional comment or conclusion. Any comments or conclusions contained in the article will be exactly what are mentioned in the already published articles and will be written in italics.

Does everything I tell you here meet the requirements for writing an article?

Konstantinos Patrinos

Articles should summarize what the sources say, not just quote them. See WP:YFA for additional guidance. RudolfRed (talk) 00:11, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

No, this still constitutes what we call "synthesis", which we consider to be original research. See WP:SYNTH. Unless you can find multiple articles in reliable sources that actually treat this subject as an independent topic, we should not have an article on the subject. But for this topic, you might be able to find an actual book as a reference. Your "synthesis" in this case is a bunch of statements or paragraphs from different sources, placed in juxtaposition, to infer a conclusion that is not stated in any source, namely, that this is a standalone topic. If you find a book source first, to demonstrate notability of the topic itself, then then you could add the other sources as examples. What you really need to do is to find a different venue to publish you paper, such as arXiv. -Arch dude (talk) 00:26, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

User:KPatrinos: As said, if your work has been published in a notable journal (I'm not sure if arXiv counts as one) you're allowed to cite your work on Wikipedia, as long as you're doing it to add value to an article not connected to you and not trying to promote your work. Publishing your work on Wikipedia, as you appear to have done at User:KPatrinos/sandbox/Absolute Reference System Hypothesis prior to blanking the page, is forbidden. JIP | Talk 14:00, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Google search wiki in Japanese not english

Hello I use google on safari browser/iPhone with AT&T. Often my searches result in wiki and I can see link in English but after I click link, wiki is in Japanese. Example result below:

https://ja.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawarma — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:D4A0:3540:81C1:52D6:D1DA:EF0B (talk) 20:17, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

There is no page by that name. The Japanese text says so. Which search did you make? What did Google say before you clikced the link? "ja." in the url means the Japanese Wikipedia so the page language is correct. The English WIkipedia has urls with "en." PrimeHunter (talk) 22:21, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Template Creation & Category Suppression

I know that the parameter |nocat=true can be used to suppress the categorisation due to a template, but I’ve been unable to make it work on templates stored in other namespaces such as this one: {{User:Idell/Userbox ES}}. Are there ways to suppress such categorisation without tweaking the original code of the template?

I also want to ask whether Wikipedians can create templates in the Template namespace as they desire. If yes, what could lead to their deletion? Idell (talk) 20:26, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

As to the question about stripping categories from templates, see {{strip categories}}

As to the general question about creating templates, then yes, that is one of the fundamental principles of Wikipedia: anyone can create a template, but anyone can nominate one for deletion too. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:44, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Editing title of Wikipedia Page

I'm trying to edit the IgniteXML Wikipedia Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IgniteXML. I'm not for sure who put this up but I work for the company and that's not what we're called.

I can see where to edit the copy of the page, but there doesn't seem like a place where you can edit the Title. Also, I'm not logged into an account or the one that made this, so would that make it hard for me to edit this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:630:5470:64CB:D4F7:8578:F518 (talk) 21:32, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

• Renaming a page is a different process. If you work for the company, per our Conflict of Interest guidelines, please discuss this at the Talk page of the article, with reliable sources to support the assertion. Thanks, Crow^Caw 22:09, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

IP user: The "talk page" for IgniteXML is at Talk:IgniteXML. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:05, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

You are a paid editor. Read and adhere to WP:PAID. This is not a problem, just a fact. There is no advantage in using the old username ("account"), and in fact it's a no-no since a Wikipedia username must not be used by more than one person. It's simpler, especially for a paid editor, to have an account, so please create one. You might want to look at WP:USERNAME. It cannot be the company's name. -Arch dude (talk) 16:11, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Can't download more than one thing from Wikipedia

The other day when using Wikipedia a box popped up at the top of the screen saying something about downloading more than one file at a time. I thought I just clicked to close the box but now I can't download more than one thing without closing the window and re-opening it. What did I do and how do I correct it? I don't even know what to look for or under. I don't have Internet at home so when I use Internet in a public place like here at the library I download stuff I want to read about and do it at home later. Please help!!!! I am not computer literate and have no idea how to do much.204.101.136.236 (talk) 22:06, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

First of all, you need to tell us how you are accessing Wikipedia (wifi?) and what operating system you are using.--Quisqualis (talk) 02:21, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Can not find <ref group=lower-alpha> tags or {{efn}} templates

At George Floyd protests in Kentucky, it says "Cite error: There are <ref group=lower-alpha> tags or {{efn}} templates on this page, but the references will not show without a {{reflist|group=lower-alpha}} template or {{notelist}} template (see the help page)". However, I can not find either text on the page when I go to edit it. Please {{ping}} me when you respond. --Jax 0677 (talk) 23:37, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

@Jax 0677: The {{efn}} template requires a {{notelist}} template at the bottom. I just added it. See Template:Notelist TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:39, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The {{efn}} template is after the words "institutional failure" in George Floyd protests in Kentucky#Louisville. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:42, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

CitiOpera

Ref number 1 is all wrong - please help and thanks 2001:8003:D857:6601:61F1:F688:CE4E:D2FF (talk) 23:53, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Since there's really no easy way for the volunteer editors here to figure out what information you are asking to change, your best bet is to ask on the article's talk page and be more specific. Or you can make the change yourself if its noncontroversial. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:31, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

I added the missing |title= and |date= parms and changed |publisher= to |newspaper=. When using the citation tool, it does not always pick up all the correct info from the article source, so it is important to review and fill in manually the fields that are wrong or missing. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:55, 11 June 2020 (UTC)