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Aotearoa New Zealand Online Meetup 6

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  • Date: Sunday 6 December 2020
  • Time: midday to 2pm
  • Location: Virtual Meeting at this link https://meet.jit.si/WikiAotearoa
    Note this video conferencing software link will ask permission to use your computer camera and microphone. You will need to agree to get full functionality. Google Chrome or Chromium is recommended for the best experience (not all aspects work correctly with other browsers). The Jitsi web-based video conferencing platform is 100% open source and fully encrypted. No account is needed and it's free.
  • Cost: Free

Meetup Code of Conduct and Anonymity when Meeting Via Video Conference

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All attendees are expected to understand and abide by the Draft Universal Code of Conduct for the Wikimedia Movement.

This video conferencing meetup is a replacement for an in-person meetup. While attending and remaining anonymous is supported by the group, lurking is not supported and will be actively discouraged. All attendees are expected to use their User name as an identifier on the video conference call and to introduce themselves and their interest in joining the call on the chat channel of the call as a minimum. Participation using video and / or voice in addition to Chat is encouraged but not required.

Some members of the group have been the target of cyber bullying in the past and these measures are intended to support creating a safe space for collaboration.

If a new attendee joins the group with video and voice disabled, they will be encouraged to participate by the facilitator, using this script:

Welcome new attendee. This group respects your right to remain anonymous. This group has a policy of discouraging lurking as it makes some of us uncomfortable. If you are happy to introduce yourself over voice, please let us know what you've been working on and if you need help with any editing issues.
If you're not comfortable updating the group by voice, then that's okay. You have the option of introducing yourself and adding your user page link into the chat feature. The chat is deleted once the video conference finishes.
If you want to remain completely anonymous and not chat, then this meetup is not for you. We make comprehensive and extensive notes of the meetup that will be included in the meetup page afterwards. That's the best way to catch up with what this meetup has been doing if you don't want to contribute during the video call.
If you're not sure how to use the chat feature you can access it by clicking on the icon that looks like a speech bubble in the bottom left corner.

If, after an appropriate length of time, the new attendee does not participate by video, voice, or chat, the facilitator of the group will remove the attendee from the video call.

If the new attendee persists in logging in, the group will discuss abandoning the meet up.

Chat for sharing pastes, URLs and so on

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The Jitsi video conferencing platform has a chat feature. This is used to share URLs and other commentary while the discussions are occurring. The facilitators may take a copy to help with writing up outcomes from the meeting on the meeting Wikipedia page. Any copies will be deleted once outcomes and notes are completed.

Future Meetups

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This is a monthly event running every 4 weeks, but double check the Aotearoa New Zealand Online page to confirm.

Join the Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand to be kept informed.

Also see Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board for discussion relevant to New Zealand Wikipedians.

People

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Agenda And Meeting Notes

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1. Introduction to meet up by organisers Group welcomed new attendee Realitylink


2. Progress on Action Points

  • Next Cloud account set up by Jon (talk). Carried forward from last meeting. No progress.
  • Giantflightlessbirds Update on progress with Alexander Turnbull Library Names upload to Mix-n-match. Carried forward from last meeting. Ambrosia10 would like to discuss whether others in the group can be assist in the upload of this content. Would Giantflightlessbirds be prepared to help others to upskill to help with this process? Ambrosia10 (talk)
Group is now in Mix-n-Match https://mix-n-match.toolforge.org/#/catalog/4003
A how-to use Mix-n-Match video has been produced by DrThneed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE9ZvwYCNnQ
A how-to blog post on uploading a dataset to Mix-n-Match was written by Giantflightlessbirds https://www.rove.wiki/blog/spreadsheet-to-mixnmatch
  • Annual Reporting to the Affiliates Committee - reminder to group that the draft report needs your additions. Draft Annual Report 2020 Please review and add any items you can think of that are missing by the end of December. Include talks and other initiatives that demonstrate raising awareness externally about Wikipedia. Report is being lodged in early January.
  • Noracrentiss to consider whether they want to set up a User Group emailing list with the assistance of Giantflightlessbirds. Everyone agreed that this is still required, and would be really helpful. Carried forward from previous meeting. User Group email list is being collated by Giantflightlessbirds. Please contact Giantflightlessbirds to provide email details if you wish to receive an email newsletter and updates from the User Group. Alternatively information will also be available on the User Group page. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_User_Group_of_Aotearoa_New_Zealand
  • The twitter account Wikimedia Aotearoa @wikiprojectnz is becoming more active. Several wikimedians have access to the twitter account. So let them know what you are working on and give them content to tweet about/retweet by cc'ing @wikiprojectnz.
  • Next meeting - should we have a January meeting? Consensus of the group is that the meeting of 3 of January should go ahead but there's no obligation to attend and that it will be a casual one.

3. Guest presentation - Women In Red

At 12.30pm Hugh Lilly and Susan Tolich from the Auckland Museum will present on their Women In Red work.

Susan offered Hugh's apologies. He was unable to attend. Susan briefed the group on the work of Auckland Museum including the recent job advert for a Wikimedian in Residence 3 month fixed term part time contract.
Auckland Museum was looking to created red links for New Zealand women and contribute to the Women in Red project. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red
The museum staff have found that this hasn't been as impactful as they thought. There has been limited work by editors to create articles from the red links featuring these women. Auckland Museum then moved their focus to creating items in Wikidata related to these women but even then there was sometimes an issue due to lack of referencing available.
The spreadsheet of information added to Wikidata is here is available here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1thJxRR5oUgmvqVLWE0p2eszPOeCQpPr6emHoIDAdQoY/edit?usp=sharing
In order to help generate the list there was a space created on the notice board in the staff room so museum staff could add names of notable women from their area. This was a valuable source of information for the project team when building their list.

4. Update on Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand Wiki-Conference weekends for 2021

  • Hokitika Wiki-Conference plans. 14 people definitely interested in attending, others undecided. Very useful comments show how people are interested in using the conference time. Wiki-Con weekend dates are confirmed as 20 and 21 March 2021
  • Auckland Wiki-Conference plans. Looks like it will be in July 2021. Still confirming exact dates.
  • Wellington Wiki-Conference plans. Planning on a late November / early December date to maximise attendees from Victoria University staff.
  • Group plans to submit a rapid grant application between 1 and 15 December, so that we can receive confirmation of funding at the end of December.
  • Please check the Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand page for progress.

5. Questions about The Wikimedia User Group of New Zealand

  • Should this meet up have a time set aside to discuss user group business? It seems to me this meet up is sometimes considered a default meeting of the user group. Should we formalise this by dedicating a timeslot to Aotearoa New Zealand User group business?
Group agreed that an agenda item should be set up at the beginning of the meeting to discuss User Group business. 15 min time slot agreed. This will ensure that those that aren't interested can still attend, just a little bit later.
  • What are the rules around editing the content page for the The Wikimedia User Group of New Zealand. As I understand it the user page text made up the application for affiliation. I've updated it when activities were necessary e.g. setting up the draft annual report. I'm interested in the group drafting a forward plan for 2021 based on the three strategic priorities we selected. Some of the forward planning documented in that page from a year ago is out of date and I want to start a draft on this page so people can edit it and discuss it - or should this be drafted on the talk page or a sub-page. Some feedback on this would be useful.
Not discussed.

Einebillion (talk) 09:10, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

6. Wiki News - add any news from the wider Wiki movement the group may be unaware of'

  • ORES rating for Wikidata items. For those of you who edit Wikidata I've come across a gadget you may want to install. See this It gives you an ORES rating for a wikidata item. If you want to install the script see the "ORES" section for instructions. If you don't have a common.js page you can create one modelled on my "common.js" page. See my page. Ambrosia10 (talk)
Ambrosia10 updated the group on this tool and considers anything over a C (3) is good for a person item. An E or D ranking is where the focus for improvement should be.
Find the tool here https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Item_quality
  • WikidataCon 2021 to be held 29-31 October 2021. The organisers will be encourage Wikimedia chapters, local groups and communities to organize their part of the event. Something for this group to think about for next year. This conference falls between the Wellington meeting and the Aotearoa Meeting. Ambrosia10 (talk)
Ambrosia10 asked group about putting on an event for the conference. The 2020 event https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Eighth_Birthday had a range of events. Decided to add this as an agenda item to March 2021 to consider.

7. Round table for participants to say what you’re working on and if you need help to do anything or want anything demonstrated - You can add requests for help here prior to the meeting if you want

  • Add what you've been working on since the last meetup.
  • User:Ambrosia10's main focus continues to be getting all the Sarjeant Gallery's paintings into Wikidata and any openly licensed images into WikiCommons with the metadata being linked to the Wikidata item for the work. See this to get an idea of progress. User:Ambrosia10 did a "how to" session at a Bionomia Tracker workshop. A link to the presentation document can be found here. This inspired her to model a Wikidata scientific collector item in the Cradle tool. See here. Help needed: User:Ambrosia10 would like to get all NZ cemeteries into Wikidata. See this twitter thread and replies - any suggests or help gratefully received.
  • User:DrThneed is playing with Edmonds cook book entries in Wikidata and Commons, ideas around modelling welcome.
  • MargaretRDonald Adding Kevin Thiele photographs to Wikimedia Commons and writing Wikipedia articles to match them. Has also uploaded 16 or so volumes of Muelleria articles to wikidata via open refine.
  • Quilt Phase Still chasing the copyright holder of an image uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. Despite frequent reminders and how-tos remains unsure whether the copyright licence has been agreed and passed to the correct Wikipedian channel. There is a risk the image might be deleted and taken down. FYI There is now a way of doing a copyright release with a copyright holder online. You can now click a button and fill in a form. Giantflightlessbirds noted the online button is more of a barrier rather than an email. He does a Send this exact text to this email address and cc me approach. He generates each message from scratch each time.
  • Gertrude206 Not been doing much lately. Has been considering doing a Karitane Hospital article and there is a page with that name but this currently redirects to the Plunket Society page. Doing research to write it up before reviewing the redirect and sorting out whether a separate page is needed.
  • DrThneed learnt to use the listeria bot. This queries wikidata and creates an automatically updating list. The goal is to complete a New Zealand heritage buildings by location listing. These buildings are in wikidata but not wikipedia so working on that. Also working on contributing to the Critter of the Week work. Learnt how to query an API for that project. A number of the group are interested in learning this so has documented the workflow. Giantflightlessbirds is reviewing and commenting and then it will be shared. Also has been working on Turnbull 2 names on Mix N Match. The featuring of NZ politicians on the front page of Wikipedia due to a large DidYouKnow post was great.
  • Oronsay Has completed a small amount of Turnbull 2 names on Mix N Match. Continuing to work on updating pages with literary awards worldwide. Written about a few women, including two philanthropists for Women In Red's December project. Continuing to do pages on Australian Honours. This creates a massive bunch of rabbit holes. You see a name, you link it, you go to their article and there’s no reference to their honours. This causes heaps of work in the article, wikidata and then back to the main list to start again on the next one. Australian Academy of the Social Sciences and Australian Academy of Humanities have elected new fellows and this is also creating more work in Wikipedia and Wikidata.

A group is getting together weekly to write a wikipedia species article via iNaturalist. Andra does the iNaturalist wikipedia article set up. The rest of the group do all the interlinking, write the article and upload images etc in an hour.

  • Susan Tol has been working on a workshop with Linda Simmons, Auckland University School of Architecture. Linda’s students have an assignment to write an article on a female architect. There are so few references that most articles stay on the student’s sandboxes and little gets published. User:Susan Tol:Susan Tol tries to tidy things up and publish what’s in good shape.
  • Realitylink is a new editor to Wikipedia. Attended a workshop in the past six months. Has been focussed on New Zealand scientists and updating their pages. Also has written an article on Dave_Lowe_(atmospheric_scientist).

Was interested in the groups views on citation in Wikipedia. Realitylink prefers tidy citations and uses a Reference template to create a citation table. MargaretRDonald recommended used Cite Q as this generates citations directly from Wikidata. The citation is therefore fully linked and can be updated easily across all articles if there is an issue. It’s a way of improving Wikidata as well as entering your citations in Wikidata will help other areas of research. The Cite Q template and examples can be found here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_Q

If you want to add in exact pates then it’s quite easy. Example {cite Q\Q12345|pages=35}} Realitylink expressed uncertainty as wasn’t familiar with Wikidata. Was encouraged by group to keep going with current workflow as there was plenty of time to learn that other platform.

  • Giantflightlessbirds Added Turnbull Names 2 - 62k names to Mix-n-Match. Is also working on a second database of about 40,000 incorporations. Alexander Turnbull Library staff want Giantflightlessbirds to show them the upload process so they can maintain the data into the future. Goal is to try and empower them to do this themselves.

Two weeks into job as Digital Discovery Librarian at Hokitika. West Coast Taskforce created of mostly new editors. Encouraged others from around the country to contribute. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_New_Zealand/West_Coast_task_force

Lots of projects are being considered. Will need to prioritise them. e.g. West Coasts Artist’s collaboration in Greymouth. Graham photographic collection from museum into Wikicommons. Charlie Douglas explorer maps and diaries to be scanned and transcribed via Wikisource. Copyright expired and long out of print books sitting in a cabinet that would be good to have scanned and OCRed. David Nind suggested looking at these links for information on OCR and the latest from the Internet Archive https://twitter.com/internetarchive/status/1331049527718027266 and https://blog.archive.org/2020/11/23/foss-wins-again-free-and-open-source-communities-comes-through-on-19th-century-newspapers-and-books-and-periodicals/

  • David Nind Started editing the InternetNZ page and wikidata items - a collaboration project that is part of the Wellington Meetup goals. He made an entry for the incorporated societies register as it is a good source of a unique identifier for organisations. Also worked on the Hutton Science medal page and making sure there are wikidata items for those people awarded the medal.
  • Einebillion Worked a bit on the Turnbull 2 names. Has been doing administration work such as organising the wiki-con weekends for next year and maintaining meetup pages for Wellington and Aotearoa Online groups. Not doing much at the moment in domestic time due to current work burden and beekeeping duties but looking forward to the Christmas break to return to the New Zealand photographers database work and adding birth and death dates. Want to learn how to figure out what’s in there already and only load those dates that are missing. DrThneed suggested getting in touch when Einebillion is ready as had some experience with this.


8. Review of questions raised during round table

  • None


9. Demonstration of another tool

  • Wikidata workflow for journals: Giantflightlessbirds - agreed to present this next month
  • User:DrThneed has requested via Facebook that User:Ambrosia10 demo TABernacle.

A table view of wikidata items. Available on toolforge https://tabernacle.toolforge.org/#/

  • David Nind raised a copyright question for an old photograph that appears in a book. Einebillion suggested that in addition to working out the New Zealand copyright jurisdiction, to also look at the US copyright jurisdiction using the Cornell University law website that provides information on US public domain durations https://copyright.cornell.edu/publicdomain

10. Useful resources and items identified during meetup

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Outcomes

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  • Add anything you worked on or learned during the meetup.
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Next meeting and Meetup timetables

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  • 3 January 2021, same time, same place


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