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Aotearoa New Zealand Online Meetup 7

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Screenshot of Aotearoa New Zealand Wiki online meetup 3 Jan 2021
  • Date: Sunday 3 January 2021
  • Time: midday to 2pm
  • Location: Virtual Meeting at this link https://meet.jit.si/WikiAotearoa
    Note this video conferencing software link will ask permission to use your computer camera and microphone. You will need to agree to get full functionality. Google Chrome or Chromium is recommended for the best experience (not all aspects work correctly with other browsers). The Jitsi web-based video conferencing platform is 100% open source and fully encrypted. No account is needed and it's free.
  • Cost: Free

Meetup Code of Conduct and Anonymity when Meeting Via Video Conference

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All attendees are expected to understand and abide by the Draft Universal Code of Conduct for the Wikimedia Movement.

This video conferencing meetup is a replacement for an in-person meetup. While attending and remaining anonymous is supported by the group, lurking is not supported and will be actively discouraged. All attendees are expected to use their User name as an identifier on the video conference call and to introduce themselves and their interest in joining the call on the chat channel of the call as a minimum. Participation using video and / or voice in addition to Chat is encouraged but not required.

Some members of the group have been the target of cyber bullying in the past and these measures are intended to support creating a safe space for collaboration.

If a new attendee joins the group with video and voice disabled, they will be encouraged to participate by the facilitator, using this script:

Welcome new attendee. This group respects your right to remain anonymous. This group has a policy of discouraging lurking as it makes some of us uncomfortable. If you are happy to introduce yourself over voice, please let us know what you've been working on and if you need help with any editing issues.
If you're not comfortable updating the group by voice, then that's okay. You have the option of introducing yourself and adding your user page link into the chat feature. The chat is deleted once the video conference finishes.
If you want to remain completely anonymous and not chat, then this meetup is not for you. We make comprehensive and extensive notes of the meetup that will be included in the meetup page afterwards. That's the best way to catch up with what this meetup has been doing if you don't want to contribute during the video call.
If you're not sure how to use the chat feature you can access it by clicking on the icon that looks like a speech bubble in the bottom left corner.

If, after an appropriate length of time, the new attendee does not participate by video, voice, or chat, the facilitator of the group will remove the attendee from the video call.

If the new attendee persists in logging in, the group will discuss abandoning the meet up.

Chat for sharing pastes, URLs and so on

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The Jitsi video conferencing platform has a chat feature. This is used to share URLs and other commentary while the discussions are occurring. The facilitators may take a copy to help with writing up outcomes from the meeting on the meeting Wikipedia page. Any copies will be deleted once outcomes and notes are completed.

Future Meetups

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This is a monthly event running every 4 weeks, but double check the Aotearoa New Zealand Online page to confirm.

Join the Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand to be kept informed.

Also see Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board for discussion relevant to New Zealand Wikipedians.

People

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Add your name to the list by adding an asterisk and three tildes like this: * ~~~

Attending

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Unable to come

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Agenda and Meeting Notes

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1. Introduction to meet up by organisers


2. Wikimedia User Group of Aoteaora New Zealand Update and Discussion (15 minutes)

Comms Channels
User Group Page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_User_Group_of_Aotearoa_New_Zealand
Twitter account https://twitter.com/wikiprojectnz - please message @wikiprojectnz with what you're working on so they can message / retweet.
Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/833075710196955
Mailing list for newsletter please contact Giantflightlessbirds
Wiki-Con Weekends in 2021 and Events
  • Saturday 20 March - Sunday 21 March 2021 Hokitika Wiki-Con weekend
  • June 2021 Auckland Wiki-Con weekend - exact dates to be confirmed
  • 29-31 October 2021 WikidataCon 2021 is being held. Still considering what to contribute. Group will discuss in the March meeting
  • Saturday 27 November - Sunday 28 November 2021 Wellington Wiki-Con weekend. Venue: Victoria University of Wellington
Anything to update / discuss?
  • Rapid Grant application was submitted on 15 December 2020; no response has been received so MurielMary has emailed the committee asking for an update.
  • Member survey from Wikimedia Foundation (sent out by MurielMary) closes on Friday 8 January. There are 9 responses so far from the NZ User Group - need 10 to receive a summary of submissions from our group. If you've received an email about this survey please consider completing it, thanks.
  • Group survey from Wikimedia also closes on Friday 8 January. MurielMary planning on completing it, but happy to collaborate if anyone is keen to join?
  • Foundation is offering online learning courses that might be of interest to editors:
This is a reminder that applications are currently open for the WikiLearn: Online Learning Pilot, an online capacity building project. The Community Development team at the Wikimedia Foundation will be hosting two online learning courses; 1) Identifying and Addressing Harassment Online and 2) Building Partnerships. The deadline for applications is January 14, 2021. These applications are hosted on a third-party service provider; for information about data handling, see the application privacy statement within each application form link above before submitting applications. Please visit our project page on Meta if you have any questions or feel free to email the Community Development team at comdevteam@wikimedia.org or ask questions on the project Talk page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Development/WikiLearn
Some members of the group expressed an interest in the Building Partnerships course.

3. Wiki News - add any news from the wider Wiki movement the group may be unaware of'

  • Wikipedia Birthday on the 15th of January. Is the group doing anything to mark the occasion? Note the Wellington Wikimedia Meetup is on the 16th of January. Wikimedia Australia has sent an email saying the following - "Happy New Year Wikimedians of Aotearoa, Having got 2020 behind us, we are rather belatedly sorting out celebrations for Wikipedia 20. We are planning a fairly relaxed online event on Friday 15 Jan at 7pm our time (9pm NZ). Liam Wyatt has agreed to MC, and we will have some presentations and activities with a mix of looking back and looking forward. We welcome your User Group involvement to make this an Australia/NZ event if you are interested, and would like to be part of the programme (which is still being organised). We will promote the ESEAP panel organised by Andrew Lih, Richard and Butch, however the late evening start makes it difficult for some of us - even later for NZ timezone I realise. Let me know your thoughts. All the best, Pru" - Ambrosia10 (talk)
Group were interested in attending but less enthusiasm on presenting. Free tickets for attendance available here https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/wikipedia-20-australianew-zealand-community-celebration-tickets-134744822391
A number of members committed to going to the meetup and discussion had on how to set up a dashboard. https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/ Dashboard set up here: https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Wikimedia_User_Group_of_Aotearoa_New_Zealand/M%C4%81ori_Women_Weavers?enroll=repduqso
Meetup page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Wellington/M%C4%81ori_Women_Weavers_Editathon
  • #1Lib1Ref starts on the 15th of January. Do we want to set up an Aotearoa dashboard group for this? Dashboard here.
Group agreed a dashboard would be a good idea. There is a discussion on the availability of a tool that gives users a list of articles with a citation needed tag so that citations can be added and tag removed. Does anyone have a link to that tool? https://citationhunt.toolforge.org/en?id=c95da5e7
There are three more sessions and then this trail will be reviewed. Noracrentiss reported that, while the sessions have only a few attendees, the depth of information and assistance provided was excellent.

4. Round table for participants to say what you’re working on and if you need help to do anything or want anything demonstrated - You can add requests for help here prior to the meeting if you want

MurielMary updating biographies of recently deceased women and nominating for inclusion on the "Recent Deaths" section of the WP Main Page e.g. Adele Rose, Jolanta Fedak. Contributing to Ambrosia's project on weavers and DrThneed's on academics. Also updated and restructured New Zealand Women of Influence Award and created Women in Governance Awards and Women in Film and Television New Zealand Awards; contacted WIFT for details of past award winners and they sent a PDF and also agreed to add it to the website so that it's publicly available.

Einebillion has been working in wikidata on pioneer land surveyors of New Zealand.

MargaretRDonald has been using CiteQ to reference journals from Wikidata in Wikipedia. Has been using CiteQ instead of the standard citatation format despite it not being quite the right format for the crediting. MargaretRDonald prefers the automatic nature of CiteQ and the linked data possibilities it provides. Has been disappointed about the response from the Australian Biota people to using CiteQ see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MargaretRDonald#Cite_Q and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MargaretRDonald#Please_stop_adding_Template_Cite_Q_when_t_violates _WP:CITEVAR A lot of people don’t understand the benefits of automation. Has also been using tabernacle and has completed Wiki Loves Earth judging. The South American photography was superb but some did not have names of animals and plants depicted.

David Nind has been updating wikidata for new wikipedia articles. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q104629573 Also added wikidata item and category for Fellows of the New Zealand Institute of Chemistry. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q99763922 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fellows_of_the_New_Zealand_Institute_of_Chemistry

Oronsay has accepted DrThneed’s calls to get into a New Zealand women professor list creating 16 stubs in less than a week. Has also been working on the Archibald Prize finalists as well as normal workflows.

DrThneed Stuart Yeates had been working on biographies of New Zealand women professors but no longer has time so has been picking this up. The workflow has been to set them up in wikidata to create a red list. MurialMary suggested adding the list into the Women in Red project space. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DrThneed/Female_professors_in_New_Zealand Workflow is adding each person into Wikidata including references, then finding phd thesis reference online, then citations, using CiteQ to cite, then creating stubs. Also has been working on updating New Year’s Honours people into Wikidata. Has been continuing to do wikidata training videos as well. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWsWeF08cAV9zH_e-TbPBiw

Slowking4 January 1 is Public Domain Day and has been working on Max Backman https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_sum_of_all_paintings/Creator/Max_Beckmann?wprov=srpw1_0 and uploading his work and also the Great Gatsby into WIkisource. https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Great_Gatsby

Gertrude206 has been working on a Wikipedia article on the 8th Earl of Hardwick whose wife Ellen was a New Zealander and made contributions to the WW1 New Zealand contingent including helping to open up a hospital. Still working on Karitane Hospitals articles.

Noracrentiss lauded DrThneed’s video on Mix’n’Match https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE9ZvwYCNnQ and how much fun the competitive leaderboard is. Very satisfying to do a bit when you have a spare 10 minutes.

Pakoire has been working on random wikipedia articles including updating wikidata and wikicommons items associated with the article. Has also working on Maori Women weavers and is looking forward to the editathon on 7th January. Is planning on getting a stack of library books to help out. Has a backlog of photos to load to Wikimedia Commons. Has been working on a funding application to Creative NZ to deliver a project on NZ theatre designers. This project will include a Wikidata and Wikipedia component where research will be added. The project will build partnerships to encourage research and curation. The project will likely have a Wikipedia in Residence element but scoping is still continuing. Other outputs might include a publication and/or exhibition. Group suggested considering applying for funding using the wikipedia grant process. Has also been working on Maori women academics wikidata and wikipedia pages. Kindly agreed to review bios of Māori academics.

Wittylama has been working on the Australian art Archibald Prize including past winners and winning paintings. Most of the paintings aren’t in public collections. Asked for feedback on the Wikipedia citation proposal https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiCite/Shared_Citations Also asked whether anyone doing anything with the America’s Cup? Can someone in Auckland think about getting a press citation to take photographs?

Einebillion mentioned that there were some editors in Auckland but they aren’t actively involved in meetups or in the Aotearoa User group to date. Group agreed to raise this with others on a variety of channels in the hopes someone decides to pursue it.

Jonathanischoice arrived late. has been working on the Internet New Zealand Wikipedia page and the Graham Sydney page. Discussed adding a Soundz identifier in Mix'n'Match. e.g. https://sounz.org.nz/contributors/1017 David Nind provided an example property https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P6683, an example of a page for a property proposal https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Alexander_Turnbull_Library_Name_ID#Alexander_Turnbull_Library_Name_ID and a request page for a property https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Generic


5. Review of questions raised during round table

  • List questions raised during the meetup and the response.
  • Sourcing published items without ISN or ISBN. Three examples: Theatre programme from 2000 New Zealand Festival of the Arts of Māori theatre shows (contains bio's of the people involved, directors, designers, actors etc), 'Te Waka Toi, Contemporary Maori Art from New Zealand - Resource kit' published by Te Waka Toi: Council for Maori and South Pacific Arts from the exhibition (Te Waka Toi) that toured USA 1992 - 1993, 'Harcourts Hawkes Bay Arts Festival 2020' programme brochure.
Group discussed how to reference ephemera and finding ephemera in the Alexander Turnbull Library. David Nind suggested always searching on Te Puna which is the combined catalogue of all New Zealand libraries as they often registered ephemera. This search will provide a World Catalogue number which can be used in the citation as a unique identifier for the citation. https://natlib.govt.nz/librarians/te-puna/te-puna-search David Nind also showed the Open Library cataloguing process in the Internet Archive. This is a way of cataloguing ephemera that has not previously catalogued by a library. You will need to register. https://openlibrary.org/ You can also upload documents that are openly licensed to the Open Library.
  • Oronsay talked about creating stubs for Māori people and uncertainty on making sure that these stubs used language that was written in a culturally appropriate way. Ambrosia10 also expressed concern especially given the upcoming editathon. There was uncertainty on how to express iwi affiliation. Pakoire offered to review the stubs.

6. Demonstration of another tool

  • Add either something you can demonstrate or would like demonstrated.
  • Wikidata workflow for journals: Giantflightlessbirds - deferred.


7. Useful resources and items identified during meetup

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Outcomes

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  • Add anything you worked on or learned during the meetup.
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Next meeting and Meetup timetables

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