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How. can I edit plz help 😥😥😥😥 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moiidthg (talk • contribs) 14:44, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

@Moiidthg: You are doing it right now! See Help:Menu for more information. Regards, Guywan (talk) 15:43, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Tnx Guywan I really appreciate it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moiidthg (talk • contribs) 16:08, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Moiidthg welcome to the Teahouse. For a brand new editor like yourself, the best advice to understand how to edit this encyclopaedia is to spend a little bit of time doing our interactive tour, called The Wikipedia Adventure (15 badges to collect en route!), and then maybe either reading Help:Getting started or visiting the Wikipedia:Community portal which is one place that offers ideas for things to work on. But I often say to people to go read articles about things they are personally interested in or know about. Whilst it's not OK to add stuff based purely on your personal knowledge (because supporting references are always required), you stand a good chance of finding weaknesses in pages that you know about that you can work on (spelling/grammar etc), or facts you can research and insert along with an appropriate citation, of course. (See this help page on how to add references). Now, I can tell from your recent contributions that you're enthusiastic to contribute - which is absolutely great - but I'll just say that we do take what we do pretty seriously here. We have editors of all ages, and this advice is offered to young editors, many of whom make some amazing contributions. I took a quick peek at your first few contributions, I will just point out that you really should avoid making trivial, chatty edits to article talk pages - nor is it really OK to drop in to another editors talk page, sign it, without saying anything worthwhile. You do have a sandbox where you can test out whether your edits look ok without disturbing other users. So, just make sure that everything you contribute to here is a net positive to improving the encyclopaedia. In other words, don't let your enthusiasm to help out get in the way of you actually helping out! If other editors ask you not to do something, it'll usually be for a pretty good reason - everyone makes mistakes in the beginning. The key thing is to listen and learn, and you'll be well on your way to taking your first steps in becoming a great editor. Best of luck on your own personal Wikipedia adventure. Come back any time to ask for help or support, and do then sign every talk page post with four keyboard tilde characters (like this: ~~~~) as this automatically adds your username and a datestamp, which is really important for everyone to see. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 17:05, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Appreciate it but I think you are pushing too hard am new and I need help can you help me plz 😭😭😭😭 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moiidthg (talk • contribs) 18:49, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

@Moiidthg: I think you've mis-understood what Nick wrote above. He took significant time to give you some good and thoughtful advice, with links to even more useful info. In return, you should probably take the time to read it carefully. If you still think it seems harsh, or is too much to take on, you may have a difficult time here. Regards, —[AlanM1(talk)]— 19:54, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Moiidthg: Whether you are new here, or have been editing for some time, we're happy to help. But you will have to clarify what help it is that you need, or which bits you don't understand. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:25, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Tnx😭😭 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moiidthg (talk • contribs) 04:02, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Nick Moyes - your first post might have been information overload. starship.paint (talk) 06:52, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Copyright violations and quotes

I am currently writing an article (the gangland murder of Edward Deegan) and i recieved a log on my article from an EranBot for a 'potential copyright violation'. I know I have not plagerised, however I have used multiple quotes which are quite large. What should I do to resolve this issue? Delete my quotes and replace them with a link to where I got the quote from/ Thanks for your help 49.191.136.242 (talk) 04:43, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi IP 49.191.136.242. Wikipedia encourages contributors to write content in their own words as much as possible, typically by summarizing content they find in reliable sources about a particular subject. There are, however, times when quoted content from a cited source can be used if doing so would help increase the reader's understanding of the subject. You can find out some more about this in MOS:QUOTE, but generally quoting large blocks of text from a source is considered excessive and may even be considered a copyright violation depending upon how the source content is licensed. You might find some of the information at the top part of Wikipedia:Copyright problems helpful, or you could ask one of the administrators listed at Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to investigate copyright matters for more specific feedback; one of them might be willing to look at your draft and offer some suggestions regarding quoted text. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:24, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

goo goo dolls - you are missing a promo released CD

GOO GOO DOLLS - Take Me Out To The Ballgame - !. Radio Version :58 2. Full Version 1:00 Copyright 1996 Warner Bros. Records Inc. PRO-CD-8409-R , Made In USA. Promotional Only Not For Sale — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:FFC0:2E:79F2:454E:6B25:8F9B (talk) 03:20, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi IP 2605:E000:FFC0:2E:79F2:454E:6B25:8F9B|2605:E000:FFC0:2E:79F2:454E:6B25:8F9B. If you feel the above is something which should be added to Take Me Out To The Ballgame, Goo Goo Dolls or some other article, then you can be bold and add the content yourself; just remember to provide a citation to a reliable source in support for verification purposes. If you're not sure about adding the content, then you can always be cautious and propose that it be added by leaving a message on the relevant article's talk page to see what some other editors think. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:31, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Edit

How can I edit plz make me an example — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moiidthg (talk • contribs) 07:13, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Moiidthg, click on the icon that looks like a pencil and then you will be editing. If you want to edit using visual editor click on the pencil at the top and switch the editor from source editor to visual editor. You can test this in your sandbox click on this link user:Moiidthg/sandbox.--SharabSalam (talk) 07:27, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

I've pasted caravel in their sandbox. They've edited that actual article before starship.paint (talk) 07:28, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

UPDATE: @Starship.paint and SharabSalam: As I suspected, but wanted to give the benefit of the doubt, this user has now been indefinitely blocked for abusing multiple accounts. See: Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Moiidthg. Such a waste of everyone's time here, when we could be focusing on helping genuine users who really need our assistance. Nick Moyes (talk) 11:09, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: - thanks for the heads up. They actually confessed here [1], though I hadn't noticed (maybe you did?) I think they didn't know it was wrong and I also think they'll be back, honestly. starship.paint (talk) 12:55, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

@Starship.paint: Yes, I read that, too, though ignored it because of WP:AGF. I chose to interpret that as a careless way of suggesting they used multiple platforms, not that they ran multiple user accounts here. But an admin did make the eventual check-user block. Nick Moyes (talk) 13:27, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

No, they said that they had interacted with me using many accounts, so it was actually not particularly ambiguous... anyway, let's deny the troll the recognition they are after. I agree that it's sad when trolls trick good-faith editors into helping them. --bonadea contributions talk 13:37, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Months

Why doesn't every month of the 20th century, at least going back that far in time, in the Gregorian calendar have it's own article detailing important dates that happened in that exact month? For example, December 1939 has it's own article, and January 2018 has it's own article. Why does Wikipedia only have definite articles for each month after July 1994? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.90.47.253 (talk) 13:50, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Because nobody has yet created those article. Wikipedia:Wikipedia is a work in progress.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 13:54, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Can anyone help on a draft

It’s about a game by big blue bubble I’ve not edited it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.252.221 (talk) 17:42, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, IP editor, welcome to the Teahouse. Without a link to the draft, we've no idea what you're referring to, I'm afraid. (Well, I haven't, anyway!). Nick Moyes (talk) 17:49, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Yes the Draft:My singing monsters dawn of fire. Thanks very much I’ve been needing help for ages!-92.11.252.221 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.252.221 (talk) 17:51, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

The link is Draft:My singing monsters: Dawn of fire. You need some references. Dbfirs 18:25, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

The content is already covered in My Singing Monsters. Perhaps that section could be added to rather than trying to create a separate article. That section needs help, as it does not have any working references. David notMD (talk) 19:52, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

I’m trying to make it separate that’s why so please recheck your edit and revert also DavidnotMD I have autism too!-92.111.252.221 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.252.221 (talk) 11:26, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

But, IP user, have you found the independent reliable sources about that game that are required to establish that it is notable enough for Wikipedia to have an article about it? If there are no suitable sources, then your draft will not be accepted (however it is written), so it is worth finding them first. Once you have found sources, you can then go about writing the draft in the most effective way, viz. by forgetting everything you know about the subject, and writing the based only on what the sources say. --ColinFine (talk) 15:02, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Forgotten password

Lets say you have been blocked, but you have forgotten the password to your user account, what should you do? 79.67.93.60 (talk) 16:04, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

If you did not provide an email address to your account in its Preferences, there unfortunately is nothing that can be done to recover it; you will need to create a new account and identify it as a successor account to your original one. 331dot (talk) 17:08, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

If you are blocked, however, you won't be able to create an account most likely, so you will need to request unblock from your IP. If you do not do that first, it is block evasion(which you are technically doing now). 331dot (talk) 17:10, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict):Two independent questions. If you have been blocked, you should not post, anywhere, from any account, on any subject, unless you are specifically following the steps of Appealing a block.

Secondly, if you have an email set up on the account, and still have access to that email, then usually you can reset your password using that email (but I don't know whether that is possible when you are blocked or not). If you haven't, then you can't. --ColinFine (talk) 17:12, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Plausibility

Please create guideline on plausibility. 85.221.158.102 (talk) 17:07, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to Teahouse, please explain what do you really mean by this. Regards.--PATH SLOPU 17:18, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

This type of requests are handled at WP:VPI. Masum Reza^📞 17:27, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

How can i publish a well known poet article but its denied by Wikipedia article verification

I wrote a article about my personally fav Indian poet wajid shaikh and he is quite famous on social media and youtube but his article verification is just denied by some admins,kindly please help me to publish this article to main Wikipedia Draft:Wajid Shaikh (poet) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naimatsid (talk • contribs) 18:35, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Naimatsid. The problem is that your draft has no references. Wikipedia is not interested in what you know (or I know, or any random person on the internet knows): it is only interested in what has been published in reliable sources, mostly independent of the subject. You need to find some sources, forget everything you know about the poet, and write your draft entirely from the sources. Please see your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 19:04, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Redirecting a name

Hello,

I am writing an entry on a dance artist, Elizabeth Langley, but the link goes to a different person of the same name. My entry is still in my Sandbox. Any help as to solve this issue is most welcome.

Thank you. --Dancepluswordsps (talk) 19:01, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Dancepluswordsps. We handle this sort of issue by adding a word or phrase to one or all articles to distinguish them: see WP:PRECISION. I suggest you don't worry about it at this stage: when you submit your draft for review, the reviewing editor who accepts it will move it to a suitable name and sort out any name clashes. --ColinFine (talk) 19:10, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Wiki Page for A Musician

Hello,

I would like to know the best way to get a wiki page up and running for a nationally and internationally renowned artist... I see that some of them are automatically generated... The artist is Cary Morin http://www.carymorin.com

Thanks so much for any help!

Celeste — Preceding unsigned comment added by CaryMorin (talk • contribs) 19:06, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

@CaryMorin: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. So there are a few things to tell you; First, if you are not Cary Morin, you cannot use their name as your username. Please go to Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS to request that your username be changed. Second, I gather that you represent Cary Morin; if so, you should review conflict of interest and paid editing.

I'm not sure why you think Wikipedia articles(not just "pages") are automatically generated; they are written by humans, the vast majority of which are volunteers. Ideally, the article should be written by someone unaffiliated with the subject(again, please read about conflict of interest). This is because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that has articles about subjects shown with independent reliable sources to meet Wikipedia's special definition of notablility. For musicians, that is written at WP:BAND. Wikipedia is not interested in what an article subject(or their representative) wants to say about themselves- only in what independent sources state. The best thing for you to do is nothing, and allow an independent editor to write about Cary Morin. Also keep in mind that Wikipedia has no interest in helping Morin's career or internet search results; we're here to write an encyclopedia of human knowledge for the benefit of all. A Wikipedia article is not necessarily desirable either; there are good reasons to not want one.

In short- and I apologize for the great deal of information- it is best for you to let independent editors take note of Morin and write about them. 331dot (talk) 19:15, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Review article

Hey Patrollers, I saw a draft for an Indian singer I believe needs to be moved asap, I have checked the sources and information. everything is pretty reliable and Independent also checked the CopyVio all good. after checking history article seemed to be moved in the draft because of a Now-blocked user creation (summary) so if anyone who can review here is link Draft:Tripti Shakya would be great if a reviewer is Indian --Siddharth 📨 19:49, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

I'm confused - what makes you believe that any draft article needs to be moved asap and why would the reviewer's nationality matter? --bonadea contributions talk 19:52, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Furthermore, the article is exactly identical to what it was when it was moved to draftspace, except that it has been submitted to AfC review. --bonadea contributions talk 19:55, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

...and it is a copyright violation to boot. --bonadea contributions talk 19:57, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

User:SidPedian, Bonadea, it's worth noting that ever since VixHere has been blocked a number of users have been trying to move drafts that Vixhere created into article mainspace. Let's just say that that raises a few eyebrows and some editors may be asked to explain just how they just randomly happened to notice draft articles. Note that undisclosed paid editing is not allowed. See WP:COIPAYDISCLOSE Vexations (talk) 20:13, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I noticed that just now, when looking into VH's edits. Also some AfD disruption, looks like. --bonadea contributions talk 20:15, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

okay not a problem --Siddharth 📨 20:10, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

• User:Vexations and User:Bonadea Because when Vixhere created one article it appeared in new pages feed and I tagged it with like citations needed etc.. and that article was also moved and it came into my watchlist. though I checked all articles moved to draft and I was about to complain about paid moves but I don't think that's my call. so I didn't. but Singer Tripti Shakya is known that's the reason I submitted it for Review and asked asap because I thought keeping articles in the draft would not make Wikipedia better. but if the reviewer thinks it's copyright violation then I have only good faith. I always respect other creators and their actions. If I had any connection with Tripti Shakya I would have moved it back I do have the privilege. --Siddharth 📨 20:22, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

  SidPedian, you've barely been around for a month, you have trouble noticing copyright violations, but you already want to review articles and move drafts by blocked editors to mainspace. I suggest you slow down and refrain from reviewing, and instead work on improving the sourcing of articles on subjects that have notability issues. Vexations (talk) 20:39, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

S - You started by claiming the draft passed copyright violation, but since deleted for copyright violation. Try harder. David notMD (talk) 20:37, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

user:David notMD sorry I did not understand what to try harder?--Siddharth 📨 20:40, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

The draft was deleted because it was and "Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://www.bhojpurifilmiduniya.com/2015/12/singer-tripti-shakya.html?m=1)" You had written here that you had checked it, and said it did not have a copyright violation. Try harder to not make errors. David notMD (talk) 20:46, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Vexations yes that's what I do most of the time. I do not review articles. I add references to the articles created by others you can go through my contributions all I do is tags, citing, linking, removing unnecessary linking, Most of the time I choose articles by directing visiting them once I watch any show or movie I go visit its article and make necessary edits. today watched Hostages (Indian series) I fixed references in Reception section that's what I do most of the time. I'm learning everyday new policy about AFD's and for BLP's--Siddharth 📨 20:51, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Student, looking to create a wikipedia page for the first time

Hello,

As the title says, I am a student in a fourth year Germanics class and I am looking to create an article for an author as a final project. Is there someone here who is able to provide a little assistance and tutoring to help ensure it is properly formatted and does not get taken down?

Thank you in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davisa88 (talk • contribs) 23:31, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Davisa88 welcome to the Teahouse. I'll try and give you a few pointers, by means of linking to some key pages which you will have to work through. The only thing that can stop an article from getting taken down from the encyclopaedia is if the subject of that article clearly meets what we call our 'Notability criteria'. If they fail that test (see Wikipedia:Notability (people)), a person or topic is deemed non-notable and, after a 'deletion discussion', it will be removed. So, the first thing you need to do is work out whether they do meet them. We assess notability by how the world at large has taken note of and written about that subject, and not by what that person or their friends happen to think about them. So we need reliable, third party sources which have written about them in depth, or solid proof of major awards or other recognised honours bestowed upon them. The specific criteria to help you is at this shortcut link: WP:NAUTHOR, or possibly WP:NBOOK if it's their published work, not the person that you want to write about.

The next thing to read is Your First Article, which advises you how to work on and then submit a draft for review. You can also draft an article in your sandbox, which is often a good thing for students to do, as it's far less likely to be deleted there, and you'll always have something to show you tutor. Take a look at similar articles to see how they've been constructed and formatted. Note that if the person is still alive, we are extra strict about requiring personal statements about them to be fully supported by citations. Learn more about referencing at WP:REFBEGIN, and maybe try out The Wikipedia Adventure, which is an interactive tour of how Wikipedia works. I'm sure others could also offer advice, but I'd suggest you first of all start gathering all your sources together, and work through each one to extract key information which you then collatein your own words to form the meat of the article. Avoid personal opinion or original research/interpretation of your own. Don't write a student essay - write an encyclopaedia article. When you've got some way with it you can always pop back and ask for feedback. We do have a rather complex 'Manual of Style' to show precisely how things need laying out, and in what format, but here's a shortcut version to just the basics. I've left a 'welcome' message on your talk page with a few other basic links to also help you get started. I hope this helps a bit. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:36, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Slowness

I have been checking the Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Rollback and a draft I made, Draft:The Children of Willesden Lane, frequently for the past few days. It has been a few days since since I awaited approval for both the draft and permission request, but I feel like it’s taking forever for someone to check both. What’s the holdup? The last few times I applied for rollback and submitted drafts, it did not take long for someone to review them. LPS and MLP Fan (LittlestPetShop) (MyLittlePony) 01:22, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

We are all volunteers here. Please be patient. Thanks. --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 01:23, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. LPS and MLP Fan (LittlestPetShop) (MyLittlePony) 01:24, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Good article or Featured article

How do I create a discussion or promote an article to be featured or good article? I think Alia Bhatt is good article and needs to have good article badge. --Siddharth 📨 07:19, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@SidPedian: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Good articles (GAs) or featured Articles (FAs) are labeled as such after evaluation against certain criteria. For more information, see this info page for GAs. DannyS712 (talk) 07:24, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Editors who believe an article is approaching GA quality usually make dozens to scores of edits to further improve the article before submitting to the GA process. David notMD (talk) 10:29, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Editing

Hello. I like to ask how I can do correct way Editing. Earlier I try to ed more information about first name. Someone told me that Iam Vandalizing and if I don't stop I will be blocked. Iam Very Sorry but I don't understand what wrong I did. May Anyone Please tell me how I can do Editing the correct way. Thank You So Much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wafa10 (talk • contribs) 09:14, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

You were told at User talk:Everedux#Jaber to take the discussion to the article talk page. You also need to be more careful with your spelling and punctuation. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:20, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Wafa10: you replaced

Jaber is an Arabic name for males used as a given name and surname. Alternative spellings are Gaber and Jabir.

by

Jaber is an Arebian Christian First Name Use Only for Male's. It Means : Healer,Adviser,Teacher,Strong Minded.

Your version is mis-spelled, mispunctuated, wrongly capitalises words, and is written all in boldface. When other editors restored the original text, you repeatedly restored variants of your version. But Everedux should not have accused you of vandalism. Your edits were clearly not vandalism, they were the result of poor understanding of English and ignorance of Wikipedia's standards. Maproom (talk) 09:30, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

You changed the article four times. Each time reverted (reversed). The normal procedure is make a change; if reverted, then start a discussion at the Talk page of the article to attempt to reach an agreement with the other editors. The key issue here is you want to add what you know (what "Jaber" means as a name), but to do so will require a reference to a published document that explains the meaning of Arabic names. Your knowing what is true is not sufficient. David notMD (talk) 10:38, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Just like to say Thank You David. Wafa10 (talk) 09:29, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Images deleted during publication

Hi! We just tried to publish our draft and all the images we had completely disappeared. Why is that? and how can we add the images again and publish it without them being deleted?

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Serena1996 (talk • contribs) 14:31, 1 June 2019 (UTC) Serena1996 (talk) 14:39, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Serena1996, if you're talking about this draft, the images were deleted from Wikimedia Commons by administrators there as they were copyright violations. You could ask the deleting admins on Commons for further details (you can see which admin deleted it by visiting the image page for the deleted images), but the most common reason is that images were copied off the Web and are not released under a free license such as CC-BY-SA. Commons does not accept nonfree content at all, and aside from a few narrow exceptions, neither does Wikipedia. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 14:47, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Serena1996. As Seraphimblade points out above, the files were uploaded to Commons. Commons and Wikipedia are both Wikimedia Foundation projects, but they each have their own policies and guidelines, and their own administrators and community of editors. There's lots of overlap between the two, but for the most part Commons matters need to be resolved on Commons. If you want to know who nominated these files for deletion and the reasons why they did so, please take a look at the messages posted at c:User talk:Alexa1816.

For reference, only administrators can delete files from Wikipedia and Commons and they usually only do so because of copyright concerns. So, it's not a good idea to simply try and re-upload the file(s) in question when this happens because most likely that will just lead to the re-uploads being deleted as well and also the possibility of being warned not to do it again. Commons only accepts certain types of licensed content as explained in c:Commons:Licensing and its administrators tend to have little patience with editors who repeatedly upload files which are considered to be copyright violations. If you don't understand why a file was deleted or feel it was deleted in error, then it's best to discuss things with the administrator who deleted the file. You can almost always find out who this is by simply clicking on the deleted file's red link.

Finally, if you're a student as Valereee surmises below and your class/course is one those connected to Wikipedia:Education program, then your course should've been assigned a Wik Ed adviser, and this person's name should be listed on your course's Wikipedia page. Wiki Ed advisers are generally really experienced at editing and are good sources for information. You're almost certainly not the first student to have files deleted from Commons, and your adviser can help you sort such things out. You might also want to take a look at Wikipedia:Education program/Students and in particular this tutorial about uploading ad using images. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:53, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

FYI to teahouse helpers, this well-written and well-researched article looks like it might be a multi-student project. --valereee (talk) 14:58, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

• Hi! I'm trying to determine which school they're in - as far as I know their class isn't with us. Serena1996, I've left a message on your talk page about this and some contact information. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:19, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

review before submission

I have pasted my wiki article which I would like to submit for review before I submit. Please let me know if the article is suitable for Wikipedia and dosent violate any rule. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shreyavinod (talk • contribs) 13:16, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

If you don't tell us where your draft is, we can't tell you whether it is suitable. Your contribution record shows no draft. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:20, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Help with Draft:Theolonius Kelly

hello

im ediing wiki/Theolonius_Kelly

if anyone wishes help please do — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theoloniusfearguskelly (talk • contribs) 00:48, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

A Google search doesn't bring up any WP:Reliable sources. Have any books been published which describe that individual? Wikipedia requires sources which are both reliable and verifiable. Facebook and LinkedIn do not hold to that particular standard. Consider using them.--Quisqualis (talk) 05:23, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Answered at Help desk. In future, do not ask at two places. David notMD (talk) 10:22, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Here's the link to the, help desk (not to be confused with Wikipedia:Help Desk). OkayKenG (talk) 13:43, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Topic ban

Where does one go to make one's appeal that a year-old ban be lifted? Jzsj (talk) 13:53, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@Jzsj: Per WP:UNBAN this is typically done at the Administrator's noticeboard. 331dot (talk) 13:55, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

hardcopy references

How do I give references to newspaper articles that I do not have the softcopy of? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shreyavinod (talk • contribs) 12:47, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Shreyavinod, you can cite them just like you'd cite any published source like in a school research paper for example. The fact that the citation exists (in any format) is the most important part, but Wikipedia's preferred formats can be found at Help:Citations quick reference and more specifically at WP:CITE. If you want you can try to show us an example citation here and we can say if it is good enough. --Habst (talk) 13:51, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Adding to Habst's response, perhaps Help:Referencing for beginners References not online and Wikipedia:Citing sources Newspaper articles (spefic section in WP:CITE) may help as well. They give recommendations on how to create references for sources that are not online (softcopy) . Thank you for the question! OkayKenG (talk) 14:04, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Nees Help in Fixing the This Article i Recently Made.

Hello there, I have recently created the article Kshitij Tarey, He is an Award Winner Singer/Composer from India and i request my friends over here to get it fixed!! Thanks :)) Shringhringshring (talk) 18:11, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kshitij Tarey In process of being evaluated for deletion. David notMD (talk) 15:03, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Where do I contact people who live in Lancashire?

I'm trying to contact the author of an abandoned circa-2006 Geocities page. From the URL I know the person's name and from the content I know they live in or about Bury, Lancashire. Where would I go to talk to other people in the area who might be able to find a phone number or even mail address? Maury Markowitz (talk) 10:25, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@Maury Markowitz: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. This board is for new Wikipedia users to ask questions about using Wikipedia, and is not a general question asking forum. You could try the Reference Desk or do a search with your preferred search engine. 331dot (talk) 10:30, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

I wouldn't be here if Google could find the answer, and the reference desk is definitely not the place to ask. Do you have any other suggestions? Maury Markowitz (talk) 10:40, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't. 331dot (talk) 10:43, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

I'm curious why you think the reference desk definitely isn't the place to ask, Maury Markowitz. I think your chances are slim there, but that it's a more appropriate venue than the Teahouse, which is a place to learn about editing Wikipedia. You never know - someone might have an old copy of a phone book local to the area. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:52, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Maury Markowitz, i just wanted to say that i've seen questions similar to yours at the reference desk before, and i think it is a very appropriate place to ask this question. i don't think your emphasis is appropriate, because i think it actually is the place to ask this question. --Habst (talk) 13:55, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@Maury Markowitz: You may try browsing user categories (Category:Wikipedians → Category:Wikipedians by location → Category:Wikipedians in England and so on), but I wouldn't expect a big success. Nobody would go into the street to ask everybody 'Excuse me, are you possibly the one who created that page at Geocities ten years ago...?'. And searching the internet from Manchester can be equally easy or hard as from Montevideo, from Vilnius or from Cape Town. --CiaPan (talk) 11:36, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

One suggestion would be to leave a message on the facebook pages of people from Bury. It's just possible that someone might know the person you are looking for. Dbfirs 15:49, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Regarding pictures for my Raymond J. Chambers draft entry

Dear Teahouse contributors, I have three pictures that are not under copyright which I would like to upload to my wikipedia entry for Raymond J. Chambers. However, the system gives me an error when I try to upload them, stating the following:

We could not determine whether this file is suitable for Wikimedia Commons. Please only upload photos that you took yourself with your camera, or see what else is acceptable. See the guide to make sure the file is acceptable and learn how to upload it on Wikimedia Commons.

I have tried to read about this issue but reached no conclusion as to how to make this work, so I'm now posting the query here in the hope that someone knows about a fix!

With best wishes, Martin — Preceding unsigned comment added by M.E.Persson (talk • these contribs) 16:10, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, M.E.Persson. Please tell us the specific circumstances of how you obtained these photographs and why you believe that they are not copyrighted. A large majority of published photos are copyrighted. What is your evidence that these particular photos are not copyrighted? Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:19, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Start Class entries and SEO

Hi,

Does the designation 'Start-Class' impact an articles search-engine ranking?

Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.114.94.135 (talk) 15:16, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

I have no idea. But I do know that SEO is a tool of promotion, so anybody who is concerned about the SEO of a Wikipedia article has almost certainly fundamentally misunderstood the purposes of Wikipedia, and imagines that it has any role whatever in WP:promotion. I don't know which article you are wondering about, but whoever is thinking that SEO for an article might be important needs to realise that the subject of an article has no control whatever over the contents of the article: see WP:OWN. --ColinFine (talk) 15:49, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Yes, Wikipedia has no interest in search rankings, sorry. 331dot (talk) 16:02, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

If you refer to Wikipedia's own search engine then it has no impact. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:21, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Corresponding page

Should a draft page be deleted if a corresponding page with mostly identical content exists? If so, how? 79.67.68.214 (talk) 19:44, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

You can merge the drafts by redirecting one of the page to the other. Interstellarity T 🌟 21:23, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

No, i mean if one of the articles is in mainspace. Should a similar/near identical draft be deleted in that case? 79.67.68.214 (talk) 21:35, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

I am not familiar with the draft mainspace. Someone else will be along shortly to answer your question. Interstellarity T 🌟 21:49, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor. Welcome to the Teahouse. Short answer: 'Yes'; use Miscellany for Deletion. Longer answer: Because you didn't link to either the article or the draft, it's hard to say what should best happen to the draft in that particular instance. speedy deletion would only apply to a draft articles were there a clear copyright violation. But after 6 months all unedited/abandoned drafts are liable for automatic deletion, so simply leaving it there is one way of knowing it will eventually disappear. WP:PROD does not apply to draft articles, so can't be used. If the draft is actively being worked upon, I think the really courteous and helpful thing for you to do would be to contact the drafting editor and advise them that a similar/identical article already exists, and point out that they're wasting their time working in draftspace. Whether or not the draft is being worked on, assuming you see no likelihood of there being any salvageable content that could go into the main article, then your course of action (assuming you don't simply want to leave it there until 6 months are up) would be to submit it to Miscellany for Deletion where a discussion will be held over the merits, or otherwise, of its removal. I hope this helps, and my thanks to Interstellarity for recognising the right point to step back. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:29, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: When you were helping JJBullet, you have asked him to not try things he doesn't have the experience for. When you were helping him, it inspired me to become a better editor as well. Interstellarity T 🌟 22:50, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@Interstellarity: That's fantastic to hear, my friend. I still want to become a better editor myself, and have gained as much from reading the answers that other hosts give to questions I can't answer here as I have from being able to help others and seeing their editing skills develop, like yours have. I know that editing Wikipedia can seem really daunting at first, but it never ceases to amaze me how well this complex system actually operates, and how the cooperation between editors has collated this vast and valuable repository of information and sources. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:09, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Adding an image on a Wikipedia page

Happy editing!

How do I add an image? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Distinctiveg (talk • contribs) 16:30, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@Distinctiveg: Check out the code for the image I've added- the "file:smiley.svg" can be replaced with whatever image you so desire, the "thumb" tells it to display on the right-hand side with the box (applicable in 98% of on-wiki needs for pictures), the "75px" tells it how big to be (this can be changed or even removed entirely), and the "happy editing" fills in the caption. Best of luck in your Wiki-journey! -A lad insane (Channel 2) 17:01, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@Distinctiveg: Welcome to the Teahouse. I should add that you can't insert a link to an external dropbox file and expect it to display correctly (as I think you tried on your userpage). Only properly licenced images can be uploaded and used here; other people's copyrighted images are not allowed. You can read more on how to upload your own image by reading Wikipedia:Uploading images. Hope this helps. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:59, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

What can i do if i think there is a socketpuppet on deWiki

Hello, What can i do if everything what i write in the de.Wiki about the suspicion gets deleted and ignored ? like this :
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DBenutzerin_Diskussion%253AAlraunenstern%26type%3Drevision%26diff%3D189224708%26oldid%3D189224425
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DWikipedia:Projekt_Moderation/Einzelf%25C3%25A4lle%26diff%3Dprev%26oldid%3D189224549&xid=17259,15700021,15700186,15700191,15700256,15700259&usg=ALkJrhhDqOpae2VSb9HX8lVuwrZtSJghyg

These Links are also Interesting if you want to see how insane the (econazi)german Wikipedia is User_talk:WikiVerwelkt User_talk:Steue

And i know that a reaction from an important Person like Jimbo Wales is a bit too dreamed but does he has even read it ? what do you think? User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Dear_Godfather_of_Wikipedia,

And who can i else ask for help ?

WikiVerwelkt (talk) 23:06, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@WikiVerwelkt: To be completely honest, we can't do anything if they're not breaking rules here. I also can't really tell what's going on with those diffs- what do copper and aluminum have to do with socking? It may also be due to your shouting- try lowercase next time. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 00:01, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Trying to figure out how to respond in talk for a page

I have comments in talk from another user and I don’t know how to reply with the visual editor without starting a new conversation — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jennmorris1 (talk • contribs) 03:12, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Article on Canadian Academy of Engineering

Hello - I am trying to improve this article. Someone (who has now closed his account) wrote over 53K bytes of text into the article. It was lengthy and some parts irrelevant. The author seemed to have copied from 2 of the PDF files cited on the article concerning history. I have tried to shorten the article but was hindered by another editor. He too disappeared after I asked him to help in shortening it. Rather he just "undo" my efforts. Given this situation, I am asking other editors to help look at this article. Thanks. CanadaMaple123 (talk) 01:07, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

It is Canadian Academy of Engineering. And appears to be copyright violation of https://www.cae-acg.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/A-History-1987-2018-of-the-Canadian-Academy-of-Engineering-1.pdf David notMD (talk) 02:54, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

@David notMD: Wow. Thanks David for alerting me. I checked and indeed it is copied sentence by sentence, paragraph by paragraph from that article. I saw the wikipedia article on Canadian Academy of Engineering has now been reverted to its original form. Thank you @Gab4gab: for your action. CanadaMaple123 (talk) 04:20, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

How to Redirect without leaving redirect?

I see some action summaries are written as moved page or reverted without leaving redirection I want to know how to do it? because when I redirect it leaves redirection--Siddharth 📨 06:47, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Admins and page movers have the option to move without leaving a redirect; we mortals don't. --David Biddulph (talk) 07:05, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Empty checkboxes

When I open Preferences / Gadgets then the checkboxes are empty and remain empty even when I have clicked into one. Therefore I do not see the result i.e. whether the box is marked or not. I use Firefox (67.) and Windows 8.1 (both up to date). I have a similar problem with some websites: that the mouse indicator becomes a pointing hand, but there is just empty background and there is no other icon or text (caption) anywhere close to it. I had this or these problems already before I installed two adblockers (AdGuard and uBlock Origin) but I have disabled them for the WP.
Steue (talk) 22:45, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

@Steue: If you don't get a reply here within 24 hours, it might be reasonable to repeat this question at Village Pump Technical. It sounds like the old Windows 8 OS isn't liking something. I've just loaded up Firefox ver 67 in Windows 10 and there's no issue visible to me. Again, try another browser, and do also check Firefox's own Options settings (these have checkboxes, too, so can you see those?) Does W8.1 have a 'compatability mode' you can try? And what happens in preferences when you try to click a tick box and then 'restore defaults'? That option only appears live once you'e ticked or unticked one of the check boxes. Finally, a Google search does suggest that Firefox users have experienced this in older versions (see here), so maybe a further root around online might reveal some other issues. And always do a reboot of your PC/mobile just to make sure it hasn't loaded up with a glitch. Sorry I can't offer further suggestions. Hope one of these might work. Let me know. Cheers Nick Moyes (talk) 02:11, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

@Steue: Is it the same in the German Wikipedia? Does Monobook work? PrimeHunter (talk) 08:47, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

• A: With Internet Explorer the checkboxes are empty as well.
• B: Firefox options do have good checkboxes.
• C: Checking, saving and resetting did not change the appearance of the checkboxes.
• D: I use a notebook.
• E: It's independent of reboot.
• F: It was the same in the German WP (How do you know? I can not remember having mentioned Germany)
• G: With Monobook the checkboxes are as they should be: correct colour (in them), mark (tick) if checked, and the radiobuttons are smaller than with the default skin.
• H: With the default skin the radiobuttons were larger but it was visible which one was selected.
• I tried it again with the default skin and the checkboxes were empty again.
  Steue (talk) 12:13, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Courtesy ping to PrimeHunter so he's notified of Steue's replies, above. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:18, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@Steue: If your interface language is English then the bottom of Special:Contributions/Steue has an "accounts" link to Special:CentralAuth/Steue which shows German. I don't have a fix but MonoBook is apparently a workaround. It's normal that the boxes look different in MonoBook. If you place the below in your common JavaScript then you get a "MonoBook" link to the left of "Preferences" if you are not already in preferences. The link goes to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences?useskin=monobook and works while you change preferences tabs and select preferences. If you add the code in meta:Special:MyPage/global.js instead then it should work in all Wikimedia wikis. You can also just manually add ?useskin=monobook to the url. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:23, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

$.when( mw.loader.using( ['mediawiki.util'] ), $.ready ).done( function() {
  mw.util.addPortletLink(
    'p-personal',
    mw.util.getUrl( 'Special:Preferences' ) + '?useskin=monobook',
    'MonoBook',
    'pt-monobook',
    'Preferences in MonoBook',
    null,
    '#pt-preferences'
  );
});

How to send a message to another editor

Another editor has been sending me messages and I do not know how to reply. How do I send a message? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toandanel49 (talk • contribs) 10:03, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

If you are referring to the messages Magnolia677 has posted to your talk page, simply edit the talk page. You do need to take notice of the messages however. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Martin of Sheffield (talk) 10:07, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Article Declined

Hi, I wrote an article about this director and screenwriter. There is an artcle about her in my home language and I wanted to translate that article. I used a lot those same references but now english Wikipedia is saying my references arent valid enough? I used IMD and newspapers and those kind of valid resources. What should I do to get it published? There isn't that much of other kind of recources because she is making movies is well known but hasn't any books about her. Do you have any tips for me? Could someone explain why that article is okay in different langugage but not in english. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mari_Mantela (Link to the draft)

Best wishes, AH — Preceding unsigned comment added by CopywriterAH (talk • contribs) 12:17, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Convenience link: Draft:Mari Mantela. --CiaPan (talk)

@CopywriterAH: Possibly you need to verify if those references fit standards of English Wikipedia. Each language Wikipedia is a separate project – and they have slightly different rules and requirements.
As for IMDb, please see WP:RS/IMDB which includes the site among Questionable resources. --CiaPan (talk) 12:24, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Links

Am I supposed to add a link wherever I can? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Microsoft0102 (talk • contribs) 13:05, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Microsoft0102! If you mean wikilinks like Canada, see MOS:OVERLINK. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:10, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

@Microsoft0102:You can add wikilinks (link to a page in wikipedia) using [["name of page"]] in Wikipedia. You can add external links (link to page outside Wikipedia using ["URL of page"]. Add only the links in appropriate places. But do not add external links in non-appropriate places such as main body of article, etc (please read this Points remembered when adding links, overlinking). Thank you.--PATH SLOPU 13:20, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Reattribution of IP edits

Hi! Although I've created this account a long time ago, I forgot I had it and haven't used it until recently. I mainly don't want it to look like two different users have the same opinion when it's only me. I've seen the old page about reattributing. What is the correct way to proceed to make sure I'm not considered two different people for ex. on a talk page? Providing a list of contributions on my user page is not a clear and direct indication for anyone reading the talk page that my username and the IP are the same person. Dithpri (talk) 21:10, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@Dithpri: The best thing to do is to state on your user pages that these accounts are both operated by the same person. Please read the policy on multiple accounts here for more information. Interstellarity T 🌟 21:20, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@Interstellarity: Thank you for the response. The IP in question is (supposed to be) dynamic, so I don't think I can change the IP page. I will follow the advice and list the edits from the IP on my user page and replace the signatures on talk pages to avoid sockpuppeting claims. Dithpri (talk) 21:38, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@Dithpri: The best thing to do is use the account when editing rather than the IP. You are not going to get in trouble for switching to editing with an account from editing with an IP address. Does this help? Interstellarity T 🌟 21:45, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@Interstellarity: Yes, thank you. I might have been unclear in my wording. I made edits as an IP, then switched to an account. I wanted to make it obvious that a comment on a talk page was mine. According to this page I should be able to edit the comment made by the IP (so that it is signed by me). If it fails, I'll just mention it's mine in a response. Now I only use my account and everything should be clear. Dithpri (talk) 21:58, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@Dithpri: Notice that (per WP:LOGOUT) you do not even need to change the edit signatures (as long as you are not lying about being two different persons). Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 14:27, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Adding a band to Wikipedia

Hello,

I'm currently trying to add the band Patawawa to Wiki - They've been a band for 6 years, they're signed to a label, agency and PR. Is someone able to help me with the steps? I'm a bit confused on the layout and structure. Thanks in advance.

Kind Regards,

Daniel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dancesnitch (talk • contribs) 15:18, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

@Dancesnitch: Is this the band that you work with as you stated in March? You were ) given advice on that question, which you should heed. 331dot (talk) 15:28, 4 June 2019 (UTC)