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Kalaignar Centenary Super Specialty Hospital

Kalaignar Centenary Super Specialty Hospital (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Non-notable hospital. No sources with significant coverage, and I found none online. (all are about the stabbing, which would make the event notable, but not the hospital itself) '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 09:36, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

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Access Entertainment

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Notability isn't inherited, fails WP:NCORP. The redirect was removed twice, so putting it up here for discussion. Suggest restoring the redirect and protecting the page from re-creation. - The9Man ^Talk 09:28, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

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List of horse breeds in DAD-IS

List of horse breeds in DAD-IS (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails notability for standalone lists and WP:GNG. This article is a table of entries drawn from a single online database, one which isn't a reliable source itself (see Talk:DAD-IS § Evaluation concludes DAD-IS is generally unreliable for horse topics). Neither this article nor its associated article DAD-IS shows any sources which are independent of the subject, and certainly no significant coverage. All citations are published by FAO, the host of the database. Also fails under WP:NOTCATALOG.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 08:26, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

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Surcingle belt

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This article has absolutely no references and through my online searches I cannot find any reliable ones to add. The page has been abandoned for ten years and I think the subject is niche enough to not warrant its own page. Jolielover (talk) 15:26, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

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Have you found the links as said here?

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• Comments: there are a few potential sources here for example, but I’m not sure if there’s significant coverage. Bearian (talk) 18:22, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

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Magazines + TV Screens Tour

Magazines + TV Screens Tour (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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WP:RUNOFTHEMILL tour that fails WP:NTOUR. G11 and BLAR has been tried before. Notability-tagged for 11 years. Geschichte (talk) 06:43, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete as per above, doesn't meet WP:GNG for an article in its own right and only has a passing mention on the Union J article, so don't think a redirect is necessary. Orange sticker (talk) 09:16, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Scott Helvenston

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Delete and redirect to 2004 Fallujah ambush, the redirect target for the other 3 victims of the ambush. Coverage of Helvenston is in relation to the ambush or subsequent events. Otherwise he was one of thousands of individuals killed during the Iraq War. His notability is due only to the ambush, therefore delete per WP:BIO1E. Longhornsg (talk) 06:12, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep - He is not known for just one event – he was on a reality TV show and was a credited Hollywood consultant, and was the subject of a dedicated LA Times obituary [1]. - Fuzheado | Talk 07:10, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

2024 New Way Cargo Airlines Ilyushin Il-76 shootdown

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• Articles for deletion/2024 New Way Cargo Airlines Ilyushin Il-76 shootdown (3rd nomination)

2024 New Way Cargo Airlines Ilyushin Il-76 shootdown (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Per WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE and WP:NOTNEWS although notable at first sustained coverage died off quick. There has been no expanded reports on the incident. A crash of a heavy aircraft with fatalities under 10 has no notability in itself.

@ me in the below discussion when you comment so i can get the fastest response or see your comment ASAP. Lolzer3k 03:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete - Not a scheduled flight or a passenger flight (these are generally considered automatically notable), and it appears to have been a military flight or military-operated flight, in which case a shootdown isn't notable, it's fortunes of war. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:04, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
• Delete - I created this article when it was said that this was a civilian cargo plane, but since now it is practiacally confirmed it was a military one, and since no important figures were killed, and there were no particular consequences nor continued coverage I think we Can delete it. - SignorPignolini _Talk 06:31, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. I was going to suggest a merge but I see there's already a brief, but sufficient, mention at the bottom of the Sudanese civil war (2023–present) § United Arab Emirates section. Rosbif73 (talk) 07:12, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Jay D. Easy (t) 20:49, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per norm. EBLDP (talk) 14:56, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
• Weak keep This won't be kept, but the only issue with it is really that the coverage window was too close in time to the accident. Articles like this show that there may be further coverage, in which case I would have absolutely no problem restoring this article. SportingFlyer T·C 20:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
• Keep – The event has received significant in-depth coverage in secondary sources that currently justify its retention. It's too soon to determine whether the event will have sustained continued coverage or lasting effects. Sources: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aviationwikiflight (talk • contribs) 15:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

References

• Keep: I believe this event meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines:

1. Significance: The incident involves a military aircraft, and any military engagements resulting in casualties often have broader implications for regional stability and/or international relations. This particular event is noteworthy given the ongoing issues Sudan is facing.
2. Media Coverage: There has been significant media coverage of the incident, which explains what happened in the incident thoroughly. Reliable sources have reported on the details of the event. Some citations which I easily found are here, here, here, and here that discuss the incident in detail.
3. Aviation Context: This incident is part of a bigger story about military planes that have accidents in war zones. Adding it to Wikipedia helps people understand the dangers and problems that military aircraft deal with. Also, I don't think heavy military aircraft, like the Il-76, involved in shoot-downs is ordinary. They do have significant information.

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Boulder Bridge and Ross Drive Bridge

Boulder Bridge and Ross Drive Bridge (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Boulder Bridge exists, as does Ross Drive Bridge; I see no reason why we should have a one-line stub simply because these are listed on the NRHP together; even if expanded out this would still be a content fork of the two sub-articles. Hog Farm _Talk 05:54, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete Redirect fine. FINE. I'm still shaking my head at this. Pointless. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 07:58, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. Yes, pointless. Athel cb (talk) 09:39, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to the 2007 article Boulder Bridge which encompasses both as a U.S. National Register of Historic Places listing. The author who created this one in 2015 probably didn't notice the NRHP article was already in place. — Maile (talk) 16:20, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
• Comment. This is here in case someone is searching using the formal NRHP name. Normally it would be a redirect, but as the nominator points out, there are two separate articles for Boulder Bridge and Ross Drive Bridge, and it's not clear where a redirect should point. (I had split the articles in 2015 since the two bridges are unrelated other than both being built in Rock Creek Park in the same decade; they carry different roads over different creeks.) It may be better to treat it as a disambiguation page. Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 21:03, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Would redirecting to National Register of Historic Places listings in Washington, D.C. be better? The fact that this is a listing combining two separate things is mentioned there in a note. Hog Farm _Talk 21:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
    • That's actually a pretty good idea. Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 22:53, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

• Here is a possible solution.

(1) - Keep the article named simply Boulder Bridge created by West Virginian 10-22-2007 It is technically correct in content and sourcing. And it's formatted correctly.

(2) - The article named Boulder Bridge and Ross Drive Bridge was created by Antony-22 10-22-2015. It is named correctly, but only contains one sentence and no sourcing.

(3) Need tech advice on how to do this, if it can be done.

Might be a good idea to first delete Boulder Bridge and Ross Drive Bridge.

Move Boulder Bridge to the title Boulder Bridge and Ross Drive Bridge, while keeping its editing history.

Since I've never performed such a article swap before, we need help from an admin who can perform this swap. — Maile (talk) 17:04, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

• As I said above, the two bridges are fairly unrelated and it wouldn't be appropriate to cover them in a single article. Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 22:53, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

• Redirect to National Register of Historic Places listings in the upper NW Quadrant of Washington, D.C. and fix the links there. This should not be its own page, and after a brief search that is clearly the best page to redirect to. SportingFlyer T·C 20:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to National Register of Historic Places listings in western Washington, D.C.. Ross Drive Bridge is west of Rock Creek, while Boulder Bridge straddles it. The NHRP listing is thus in both list articles, but the western one is the more appropriate redirect target. Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 22:53, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

  Works for me. SportingFlyer T·C 04:14, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

  Ditto. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 05:44, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

• Clarification for everyone on how these two came to be listed as one. Please see NRHP Nomination Form. It was listed that way by the National Register of Historic Places. — Maile (talk) 15:40, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect to National Register of Historic Places listings in the upper NW Quadrant of Washington, D.C.. This article is obviously not encyclopedic but the title itself is a reasonable search term. Esolo5002 (talk) 08:14, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Shelby County Airport (Missouri)

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I ran across this trying to source unreferenced Missouri articles for the ongoing unreferenced articles drive. While the essay WP:NAIRPORT suggests that municipal general aviation airports are likely to be notable, that essay does not carry the weight of policy and I'm not finding any substantial coverage for this at all. This from MODOT looks substantive at first, but actually only 4 sentences is about this airport and the rest is about general aviation in the state as a whole. Newspapers.com searching in Missouri for this airport turns up coverage of airports in Alabama and Memphis, but only a statement that a large crowd turned out for a BBQ pork dinner about this airport and a second brief statement announcing a fly-in at the airport in 1961. I know these municipal airports are usually notable, but I don't see a WP:GNG pass here due to the only coverage a fairly thorough WP:BEFORE is bringing up that isn't registration-type listings are the four sentences from MODOT and the two one-sentence passing mentions. The NAIRPORT essay does not carry the weight of policy. Hog Farm _Talk 05:40, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep. WP:5P establishes that Wikipedia is a gazetteer, and airports are a standard part of such works. WP:V is the guiding line beyond that, and that is satisfied. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:01, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to Shelby County as an ATD. BTW, Wikipedia is not a Gazetteer (yes, I know it's an essay but still) and WP:GEOLAND tells us that artificial features related to infrastructure need to pass WP:GNG which this does not. So if the redirect target doesn't work for folks, then delete... Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 07:37, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to List of airports in Missouri, which is a much better target than the county itself. There's just the bare minimum of information about this unattended turf runway that I could find, but I think we're just a source away from being able to restore it if someone comes across this later. SportingFlyer T·C 20:02, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

  Agree on this, din't know it was there. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:14, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

• Redirect per Sportingflyer and Alexandermcnabb. I agree that List of airports in Missouri currently appears to be the best target that allows us to get the most information to the reader. I suppose there's a non-zero chance this may prove to be notable, but I'm also not convinced it warrants a stand-alone page when we have a fully functioning list we can add the information to. If a future editor does end up expanding the articles on Shelbyville, Missouri or Shelby County, Missouri and finds that they have enough for more than two sentences on the airport, then I have no objection to changing the redirect target. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 22:23, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to Shelby County per previous comments. While WP:NAIRPORT says that municipal airports are "likely" to be notable, WP:NBUILD is a better policy to follow in my estimation, and this airport is not mentioned in secondary sources aside from cursory and WP:ROTM mentions in aviation databases and local news. For what it's worth, I've been AFDing and PRODing obscure Texas airports on an on-off-but-mostly-off basis, and it doesn't take much to establish notability—features in aviation magazines or local news stories that focus on the airport will do it—but this airport doesn't seem to reach even this low bar. Carguychris (talk) 22:44, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Carguychris - I tend to think that this would be better handled at the article for whatever governmental entity operates the airport. In this case, the article states that the airport is operated by the City of Shelbyville, Missouri. What are your thoughts on this? Hog Farm _Talk 23:46, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

    That makes sense. I didn't notice that. Carguychris (talk) 17:15, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

    Agree. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:27, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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Luther Stickell

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I don't think that this character is notable. This article has 10 sources, of all are not reliable and passing mentions. It was recently tagged for notability and there is no help at all. My WP:BEFORE failed to show anything about him. If he isn't fixed, i recommend a redirect to List of Mission: Impossible characters or at worse, Ving Rhames.

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• Redirect to Mission: Impossible (film series) as an WP:ATD. The List of Mission: Impossible characters is for characters from the original TV series; it omits the late-80s revival let alone the film series. The film series article is a better redirect target. oknazevad (talk) 03:52, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
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Second Grade Municipalitie

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Functionally unsourced, and failed a WP:BEFORE search. Already draftified and moved back. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 05:23, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

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First Grade Municipalitie

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Functionally unsourced, and failed a WP:BEFORE search. Was already draftified and then moved back. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 05:22, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

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New Hampshire Liberty Forum

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Nominating page for deletion for the following issues per WP:DP.

1. Advertising or other spam without any relevant or encyclopedic content

The article contains large amounts of puffery and reads like an advertisement. Majority of the article is a list of speakers at conventions, mentions of their books, and external bare urls to their blogs or other websites.

2. Articles that cannot possibly be attributed to reliable sources, including neologisms, original theories and conclusions, and hoaxes

The article does not list sources for claims of speakers at various conferences. Several existing sources are primary sources.

The article makes false and misleading claims, engages in original research with no sources, and presents their subjects in a promotional manner.

Example 1, stating that "James O'Keefe – journalist whose investigations have exposed corruption and malfeasance in major taxpayer-funded institutions, including ACORN, Planned Parenthood and NPR". James O'Keefe is a far-right activist that uses deceptively edited videos to attack mainstream media sources and progressive sources, and whose videos exposing corruption have been verifiably proven false, as in the case with the ACORN 2009 undercover videos controversy.

Example 2, stating "Ben Swann – Emmy Award-winning journalist" but not including any mention that he is a well-known, notable conspiracy theorist.

Example 3: stating "Stefan Molyneux – host of Freedomain Radio" but not mentioning how he is best known as a white nationalist.

3. Articles for which thorough attempts to find reliable sources to verify them have failed

I cannot find reliable, non-primary sources for the large majority of the claimed speakers at these conventions.

4. Articles with subjects that fail to meet the relevant notability guidelines (WP:N, WP:GNG, WP:BIO, WP:MUSIC, WP:CORP, and so forth)

Majority of the individuals listed fail notability requirements. BootsED (talk) 03:06, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

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Issues in social nudity

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This article hardly addresses issues, and is apparent from the get go with the introductory paragraph rehashing info that can be found in many other articles on nudism such as Nudity, Naturism, and Nude recreation, etc.. The article on Nudity especially has multiple sections dedicated to issues, in regards to its legality, cultural acceptance, and child development. The terminology section is totally unnecessary for an article about the issues related to a concept as it does not address any terms related to issues, only the history of naturist related terms themselves. Diversity in nudist clubs is not relevant to its issues unless those issues are stated, discussed, and sourced, which they are not, and would be more appropriate on articles covering specific cultural attitudes towards nudity as shown in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudity#Cultural_differences. The other issues and legality sections are short and can be moved elsewhere, other articles about nudity and naturism have subsections covering particular countries where these tidbits may be more relevant. Micahtchi (talk) 02:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete per nom. Anything useful and not redundant here can be merged with one of the existing articles mentioned.--MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 05:07, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

  Comment. I poked around Talk:Naturism and apparently Issues in social nudity was intentionally spun off from Naturism in as part of an effort to reduce the size of that article. I don't think that has any bearing on whether or not to keep this article, but any editor wanting to move content from this article back to Naturism should be aware of the issues there. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 16:40, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

  I saw this before- what I got from it at the time (in the 2000s, so a while ago) was this person made a whole bunch of nudity related articles (that were too specific or unnecessary and were deleted or merged into articles like naturism and nudity, and seemed to get into a lot of fights about them too...). I think the reason it exists was because of old beefs and (in my opinion) an apparent desire to be first when it comes to writing these articles. I got this mainly from the original author's talk page. Micahtchi (talk) 07:24, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

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CEWC-Cymru

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Fails WP:ORG for lack of third party coverage. LibStar (talk) 02:26, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

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• Merge/redirect to Welsh Centre for International Affairs. As WP:ATD-R. Where the proposed target article covers the parent org ("WCIA") with which this charity org ("CEWC") was reputedly merged/amalgamated in 2014. And its website also redirected to that of the parent. We may as well do the same (merge/redirect). Otherwise, similar to the nom, I'm not convinced that there's sufficient coverage to establish independent notability or support a stand-alone article. Guliolopez (talk) 11:05, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Related AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CEWC Northern Ireland. LibStar (talk) 13:27, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

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CEWC Northern Ireland

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I could not find significant coverage when searching under short name or full name. The 2nd source is a 1 line mention in a book.

Also nominating CEWC-Cymru for similar reasons. Both articles fail WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 02:46, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment. There are two different nominations here. And my own recommendations are slightly different for both. Neither especially cut/dried. In terms of the:

• CEWC-Cymru title, I think this should just be merged and redirected. To Welsh Centre for International Affairs. As, per the text and (granted primary) reference, the former charity now forms part of that organisation. And hence is a reasonable WP:ATD-R.
• CEWC Northern Ireland title, I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that this should also be merged and redirected. To Council for Education in World Citizenship. Also as WP:ATD-R. Where the target would be updated so it is no longer a DAB page. But an article covering the "parent" org. I propose this because while, per nom, I do not see that the "CEWC Northern Ireland" org has/had independent notability, the "parent" org perhaps does. Much of the content at the Northern Ireland article could be merged to Council for Education in World Citizenship. With that title (no longer DAB) expanded to cover the concept as a whole. That org being the subject of significant coverage (as the primary topic) in at least one book and several journal articles. Indicating possible notability. There's certainly enough coverage for more than a stub (covering the English, Welsh and Northern Ireland "branches" of the org)...

My 2x cents anyway... Guliolopez (talk) 21:09, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

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I will nominate CEWC-Cymru separately now. LibStar (talk) 02:25, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

@Guliolopez, a new AfD is set up here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CEWC-Cymru, you may wish to copy your comment across. LibStar (talk) 02:27, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Comment. Thanks for the ping @LibStar:. I've struck and moved my !vote on what to do with the Welsh charity title (CEWC Cymru) to the new AfD. In terms of the Northern Irish charity title (CEWC Northern Ireland), and for clarity, my recommendation remains to merge/redirect to Council for Education in World Citizenship. Guliolopez (talk) 11:13, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

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Ron Hoffmann

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Marked for notability concerns in 2013, and a complete lack of inline citation. The external links provided are primary (government) sources. A search for sources yielded namesakes. Ambassadors are not inherently notable. LibStar (talk) 04:56, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

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Relato K

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POV forking and WP:UNDUE; the article is based on the opinions of far-right politicians such as Axel Kaiser. Also WP:OR?? JPerez90 (talk) 01:26, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

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Please define what do you mean when you say "far-right". Do you mean that he's right-wing, but more enthusiastic than others? How would that make him an unreliable source? Or do you mean that he's racist, white-supremacist, or something similar? That would be something else, right, but I would like to see a specific reference of that, not just a generic label that seems to be applied at random. Cambalachero (talk) 03:24, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

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Americanoid

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Delete or possibly merge with Okunev culture. The first paragraph is about a "discounted" theory which probably doesn't deserve its own article. The second also is not deserving of its own article and can be merged if it isn't already in the Okunev article (I only skimmed it). PersusjCP (talk) 04:41, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

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Panorays

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Article seemingly lacks any sources aside from trade press. Even then a significant amount of coverage is related to fundraising events. Brandon (talk) 01:55, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

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• Weak keep: [2] is definitely SigCov. This book also uses it as an example. (I also found 3 perhaps–slightly-questionable sources: funding, funding, research. I think the last source is unfortunately just a ton of trivial mentions. Depending on how one reads the "trivial coverage" part of NCorp, the funding ones may or may not be SigCov as they both have in-depth and independent coverage of what the company does.) Aaron Liu (talk) 12:39, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

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Sizwe Nxasana

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Unsourced BLP article, edited by possible COI editors and IPs LR.127 (talk) 01:55, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. A WP:BEFORE search didn't find many useful sources, aside from his resignation at NSFAS. Article also reads like a resume. Procyon117 (talk) 16:39, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

• Keep. high profile South African businessperson. Passes WP:GNG with sustained coverage in multiple WP:RS. Former CEO of Firstrand bank and Telkom. These are some of South Africa's largest and best known companies (WP:WORLDWIDE) and he received a lot of direct coverage because of this. Article is not in great shape but WP:NOTCLEANUP. Coverage in WP:RS [3][4][5] (South Africa's highest paid banking CEO). Also includes negative coverage: [6][7][8]. More: [9][10][][11][12][13][14][15] ("Nxasana, who has been CEO since April 1998, has seen the company through a number of challenges, including the successful initial public offering on the JSE Securities Exchange, South Africa, and the New York Stock Exchange.").[16][17][18] His opinions were viewed as important by mainstream papers [19][20][21][22]. Here's some coverage by Harvard Business School, so he gets the Anglosphere tick: [23]. I can find more references if needed. Park3r (talk) 00:23, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
• Keep: Per Park3r. However, the article is in bad shape, voting keep without improving the article won't take us anywhere since someone might AfD it again tomorrow. dxneo (talk) 23:28, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

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Conquests of Inal the Great

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This article is an unnecessary WP:CONTENTFORK of Inal the Great. There is insufficient sourcing for Inal's conquests to warrant a standalone page. The sources are all passing mentions of Inal himself (here, here, here), don't even mention him or describe him as a legendary figure), with the one exception of a self-published Circassian nationalist blog. The article was created by a sockmaster and a redirect preferred by multiple editors is being repeatedly reverted by a likely WP:LOUTSOCK. I am seeking consensus for restoration of a stable redirect to Inal the Great. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:25, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

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Omspace

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Fails WP:ORG and WP:GNG - The9Man ^Talk 18:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

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Keep. May you explicate why you believe that this article fails WP:ORG? In the article alone I see three sources (1,2,4) that I believe to satisfy significance, reliability, and secondary.Arguably, the sources are quite recent, but I believe that aged sources are only the requirement for events (WP:EVENT). Pygos (talk) 04:33, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

The first link is a blog article, the second is an interview that isn’t about the company, and the 4th is also not a reliable news source - it's a blog masquerading as a news website. None of these sources come close to fulfilling the requirements of WP:ORG. - The9Man ^Talk 11:42, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

@The9Man The fourth source is not a blog. It's news website for TV9 Telugu, a mainstream TV network in India. It's absolutely a legitimate news source made by professional journalists.4meter4 (talk) 02:30, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

• Weak delete. There are a couple of solid sources, but overall there isn't enough here to pass WP:ORGCRIT. It's a young company. Probably a case of WP:TOOSOON.4meter4 (talk) 02:36, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: I do not see a pass of WP:ORGCRIT, not from here, not from a cursory search. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 20:32, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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East Glebe & Potomac station

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Page devoted to a bus stop with no detectable notability or reliable secondary source coverage. Propose that articles be deleted in favor of a consolidated route map on the Metroway page. Each bus stop does not warrant its own page, though, especially considering most of them are simply a small standard bus shelter or sidewalk sign.

I am also nominating the following articles on non-notable bus stops on the same bus line under the same nomination:

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• Reed station (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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• 33rd & Crystal station (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
• 27th & Crystal station (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
• 23rd & Crystal station (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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• Redirect to Metroway#Stations. Amount of infrastructure does not determine notability - availability of sources does - but I can't find any sources discussing these in any detail. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:39, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
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Mehrdad Mehryar

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Fails notability. he never played for the national team. looks like he played for some European clubs but they are not top clubs, mostly in lower divisions. if you google his name you rarely can find anything. Sports2021 (talk) 00:09, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC.4meter4 (talk) 00:21, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. Can't find anything supporting notability through WP:SPORTSBASIC. nf utvol (talk) 02:14, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
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Bill Wylie-Kellermann

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No indication of notability. Fails WP:NAUTHOR. - UtherSRG (talk) 00:43, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep His books have been reviewed in major publications. He is also well known as an activist. See coverage in this article in the Guardian: No water for poor people: the nine Americans who risked jail to seek justice Thriley (talk) 17:06, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep. Passes WP:NAUTHOR and WP:GNG. In addition to the sources in the article, here are a couple book reviews from SAGE: [24] and [25]. Best.4meter4 (talk)