Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Russia/Archive 4
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Yasen Class.jpg
image:Yasen Class.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 05:22, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
File:Blugakov1909-cropped.jpg
File:Blugakov1909-cropped.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 08:22, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
File:KGB Report on 1981.jpg
File:KGB Report on 1981.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 08:56, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
- This is obviously a public document that should not be deleted. How do we stop deletion? cwmacdougall 10:05, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
- I've changed the custom tag, which was probably the reason for the deletion request, to {{PD-RU-exempt}}. Hopefully this takes care of it.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); May 23, 2013; 12:05 (UTC)
- The version on WikiCommons, commons:File:KGB_Report_on_1981.jpg has also been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 03:46, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- I've re-tagged it there as well. Thanks.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); May 24, 2013; 11:50 (UTC)
- The version on WikiCommons, commons:File:KGB_Report_on_1981.jpg has also been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 03:46, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- I've changed the custom tag, which was probably the reason for the deletion request, to {{PD-RU-exempt}}. Hopefully this takes care of it.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); May 23, 2013; 12:05 (UTC)
Russian alphabet
Is here a user willing to keep a watch to Russian alphabet (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)? It needs more competent people to deflect botchers and kooks, who become unexpectedly active. Refer to the edit history for details. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 08:05, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
- I added it to the watchlist.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:20, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Does this WikiProject have a watchlist?
If so where is it? Thanks in advance, XOttawahitech (talk) 19:45, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, here, although it doesn't seem to be working right this moment. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); May 28, 2013; 20:05 (UTC)
MOS discussion about removing non-Roman script names from lede sentence
Copied from WT:JAPAN
There is an ongoing discussion about amending Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section to discourage listing non-English names of subjects in the lede sentence of articles, and to encourage moving them to an infobox or footnote. As I understand it, the current practice of WP:JAPAN is to use {{nihongo}} to include the Japanese name in the lede sentence, so this change may affect a large number of articles under your project. Your comments are welcome on the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Lead section#Proposal: move most translations and transliterations from lead sentence to footnote. Thanks, quant18 (talk) 04:54, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
This also concerns usage of Russian, so you may be interested -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 07:29, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Said Amirov
I have started an article on Said Amirov. I would appreciate if someone who reads Russian (or other local languages) would expand/correct the article based on sources in Russian or other local languages, as the English sources are somewhat lacking. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 09:16, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Eugene Chelyshev
Hi! Eugene Chelyshev is as of writing a rough translation of the Russian article ru:Челышев, Евгений Петрович. Are any Russian speakers willing to help refine the translation? Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 05:48, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Given the name of the article, people who created it apparently know better. I do not want all my changes to be reverted. Let them do the job themselves.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:57, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- I have nothing to add to Yaroslav's words. Time is precious. Sealle (talk) 10:04, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Not me, it is Google (English) that is see this, this etc and UNESCO doc. --Tito Dutta (talk • contributions • email) 10:18, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- WP:POINT. Ok, I bless you to deprive this man of his name. Please, don't forget to do the same to all other mentioned people there: R. Nebesky-Woykowitz, L. Hughes, C. C. Berg, J. W. de Jong and so on. Sealle (talk) 10:46, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- a) I asked for help which you did not provide, and giving this blessing b) I provided multiple references (above and at my talk page), you did not comment anything on those references c) nor you wrote any reason/rationale while moving that article d) I asked at my talkpage to go forward and move again if you are really very much confident, you ignored too...
Frankly, I am facing difficulties to understand you. It is always anticipated that editors will work to solve misunderstandings and disputes. I am inviting you to try discussing once again. I hope we'll be able to solve this misunderstanding issue.
The only thing which has been done here is I have lost interest to take it to DYK. It could be a good DYK like my other article Anna Litvinova... --Tito Dutta (talk • contributions • email) 11:12, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- >>I am facing difficulties to understand you.>> So am I. I do not myself translate articles from one non-native language to another and I do not encourage others to do it. I tried to assure you that initials instead of full name placed on a book cover do not mean that the author does not have this full name. In turn, you're still trying to find more links containing those initials. I rarely appear on the en.wiki, I came here to help my partner, user:WhisperToMe and I have no time and no desire to go on, if no one needs my opinion. Please make your own decision about the name of this article. Sealle (talk) 11:44, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Comment Is it alright if the article is written first and the name is sorted out later? We do t have to agree on the article name right away. WhisperToMe (talk) 13:08, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Comment: Thankfully it seems like things have calmed down now :) - Good work, everyone! WhisperToMe (talk) 20:06, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Some issues with Laurentius Blumentrost
Since it is a translated article (though at present it has 7 English references) help needed on some issues:
- His school - Parsons School Glyuka (is it correct?)
- Who is princess Natalia Alekseevny?
- What is mineral water Konchezerskoye?
- And many more...
Russian wikipedian help is much appreciated in the article. Thank you. Solomon7968 (talk) 20:52, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
TorrentsofSpring.jpg
image:TorrentsofSpring.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 05:41, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Translation request
Hey, I could use a favor. Could someone translate the following as closely as possible? I know what they mean, but I am attempting to cite them in an article, and someone else is complaining that I am using a machine translation, and that they might not say what I say they say.
From http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/597558
Лишь 10 декабря 1918 года был подписан декрет "О сдаче оружия", обязывающий "все население и все учреждения гражданского ведомства сдать находящиеся у них все исправные и неисправные винтовки, пулеметы и револьверы всех систем, патроны к ним и шашки всякого образца".
По-настоящему революционным в этом декрете было то, что его действие не распространялось на членов Коммунистической партии.
Специальная инструкция, которая появилась вместе с декретом, позволяла членам РКП(б) сохранить имеющиеся у них винтовки и револьверы.
and from http://antik-lawyer.ru/index.php?id=13
После Октябрьской революции 1917 г. положение коллекционеров старинного оружия коренным образом в корне изменилось - небезизвестный Декрет СНК РСФСР от 10 декабря 1918 г. «О сдаче оружия».Оружие не изымалось только у членов партии по представлению комитетов РКП (б), но не более одной винтовки и одного револьвера на человека.Право на владение оружием, а значит и его теперь уже тайное и тщательно скрываемое коллекционирование, приобрело теперь классовую и партийную принадлежность.
Your help appreciated. Gaijin42 (talk) 19:16, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
- Here is a quick translation; if anyone wants to improve on it, feel free to edit:
- The Decree "On the Surrender of Weapons", which obliged "all the populace and civil organizations to surrender any functional and non-functional rifles, machine guns, and revolvers of any models, ammunition, and shashkas [sabres] of every issue" was only signed on December 10, 1918. The truly "revolutionary" part of this Decree was the fact that it did not apply to the members of the Communist party. A special clause accompanying the Decree allowed the members of the RKP(b) to keep the rifles and revolvers in their possession.
- After the October Revolution of 1917, the position in which the collectors of antique weapons found themselves in changed fundamentally due to the well-known Decree of the Sovnarkom of the RSFSR of December 10, 1918 "On the Surrender of Weapons". Only the party members with a recommendation from an RKP(b) committee were exempt from the weapons seizure, and only one rifle and one revolver per person were allowed. The right to own weapons, as well as their now secretive and thoroughly concealed collecting, became a class and party privilege.
- —Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 18, 2013; 20:08 (UTC)
- Thanks. Gaijin42 (talk) 14:10, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Saint Petersburg RM
FYI: Talk:Saint Petersburg#Article name. YLSS (talk) 15:23, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Discussion reopened: Talk:Saint Petersburg#Article title (—Abercius (talk) 11:05, 21 June 2013 (UTC))
File:Karl Pojello wrestler.jpeg
File:Karl Pojello wrestler.jpeg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 01:40, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
Picture of Magnus Georg Paucker?
Can anyone help pointing out a picture of Magnus Georg Paucker. I am having a tough time understanding whether he was Russian, Latvian or Estonian. Hence I have not touched the ethnicity and nationality section. Help is appreciated. The Legend of Zorro 03:43, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
- Apparently, he was Baltic German, and a citizen of Russia.--Ymblanter (talk) 04:26, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
- And Picture? The Russian wiki article does not contains any picture. The Legend of Zorro 04:30, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Charles Radoff
have been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 03:02, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
The geographer drank his globe away (novel).jpg
image:The geographer drank his globe away (novel).jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 11:51, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
Medieval Ingush symbols, triskelion symbol and swastika in form of eagle heads. Ingushetia, Dzheirakhovski district, Targim.jpg
image:Medieval Ingush symbols, triskelion symbol and swastika in form of eagle heads. Ingushetia, Dzheirakhovski district, Targim.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 03:46, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Ingushetia article
Hi! Could someone take a look? While some of the added info is referenced, most lacks sources and is clearly POV. Alæxis¿question? 20:08, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Source of Russian government using non-electronic comms to prevent leaks
I found this:
- "Kremlin turns back to typewriters to avoid security leaks." Agence France Presse. Thursday July 11, 2013.
Merge discussion for Finland Governorate
Note that I proposed to merge Finland Governorate into Vyborg Governorate.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:29, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Letter to Russia with krokozyabry.jpg
image:Letter to Russia with krokozyabry.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:27, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Probably needs some attention. A user threatens to implement unilateral changes; when I objected, I got accused in POV.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:02, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Kazan State Technical University named after A. N. Tupolev
Dear Russia experts:
I came across two articles, Kazan State Technical University named after A. N. Tupolev, which has no references, and Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Kazan State Technological University, which also has no references and has different information. The second article is about to be deleted, since it was never finished and isn't being worked on. I thought of transferring the information to the first article, which could use a history section, but knowing nothing about the subject, I can't tell if the information is accurate. Would someone here be willing to combine this information and maybe add some sources to the first article so that it won't be nominated for deletion? Thanks. —Anne Delong (talk) 14:20, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- Anne, these two pages can't be merged, because they cover two different universities: Technical University vs. Technological University.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); August 2, 2013; 15:12 (UTC)
- Thanks! There, I told you I didn't know enough about the subject. Well, unless someone makes some improvements to the Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Kazan State Technological University article, it will likely be gone in a few days. —Anne Delong (talk) 15:51, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- There is an article about it in ru_wiki, but it is unreferenced as well...—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); August 2, 2013; 16:04 (UTC)
- And duh me, we already have an article about it, too. Not sure how I missed it first time round. And it's not exactly well-referenced either...—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); August 2, 2013; 16:06 (UTC)
- Should I now delete the old draft, then (db-g13)? —Anne Delong (talk) 16:25, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- I don't see anything worth salvaging in the draft, so unless someone else has anything to say, it can be safely deleted. Thanks for bringing this here!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); August 2, 2013; 16:33 (UTC)
- I think it can go, nothing to merge in.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:01, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- I don't see anything worth salvaging in the draft, so unless someone else has anything to say, it can be safely deleted. Thanks for bringing this here!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); August 2, 2013; 16:33 (UTC)
- Should I now delete the old draft, then (db-g13)? —Anne Delong (talk) 16:25, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks! There, I told you I didn't know enough about the subject. Well, unless someone makes some improvements to the Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Kazan State Technological University article, it will likely be gone in a few days. —Anne Delong (talk) 15:51, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
This article was nominated for deletion on the assumption it is a hoax. Although there is an NTV documentary showing otherwise, some print sources would be nice. I'm not familiar with Russian/Soviet books on the matter of serial killers, so maybe someone here can help? Someone not using his real name (talk) 22:13, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
One of your project's articles has been featured
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"Gretzky"
The usage of Gretzky (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, see talk: Gretzky (disambiguation) -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 02:10, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
FYI template:Infobox Russian term has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 08:00, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Administrative division of the Russian Orthodox Church
I have written few articles on the different sub-unit of the Russian Orthodox Church based on the template:Russian Orthodox Church. There, the term "Diocese" is used but i discovered that this term is common in the Catholic church, while the Russian church preserved the greek name "eparchya" or eparchy in english. Therefor, i want to request, if you someone can change all those articles "Diocese of..." to "Eparchy of..." using a bot. The category is also called so, Category:Eparchies of the Russian Orthodox Church, and there is a correspondent article, Eparchies of the Russian Orthodox Church.
Thanks for those who help, Superzohar Talk 16:24, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
- Are you sure? Certainly the Russian Orthodox Church in England, under the Moscow Patriarch, uses the word "Diocese", and I've never heard of "Eparchy" being used in English: see http://www.sourozh.org/ cwmacdougall 17:40, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Орден святого Михаила Архангела1988г.jpg
image:Орден святого Михаила Архангела1988г.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 09:08, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Template:Countries and territories of Central Asia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:22, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Template:Countries bordering the Baltic Sea (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:36, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Template:Countries bordering the Caspian Sea (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:44, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Template:Countries bordering the Black Sea (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 10:52, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Template:Commonwealth of Independent States (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 15:02, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Template:UN Security Council (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 03:21, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi. Can someone please check that the Vladimir Putin example at WP:RUSSIANNAMES is correct and representative of WP Russia BLP articles (I have no reason to think it is not, it looks to me as if it is, so copied and pasted it in). If so/if not please note at Wikipedia Talk:Naming conventions (Cyrillic)#Added_Putin lead as model. Thank you. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:32, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Template:Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 01:44, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Template:Eurasian Economic Community (EURASEC) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 02:09, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Kazakh names
Hello.
I have asked a question at WT:RUS regarding the romanization of Kazakh names, lacking a project page for Kazakhstan.
Battle of Warsaw (1831)
Hello everyone. I'm working on the article on the Battle of Warsaw (1831). It's a work in progress. However, I'm trying to simultaneously eliminate as many red links in the article as humanely possible. I'm still missing articles on plenty of Russian military commanders. A list of the people still missing from en wiki (most have articles on ru wiki):
- Peter von der Pahlen
- Georg Nostitz
- Nikolai Muraviev
- Ivan Shakhovskoy
- Karol Strandman
- Nikolai Sulima
- Ivan Lutkovski
- Friedrich Caspar von Geismar
- Ivan Khludenev
- Pavel Martynov
- Alexander Tukhachevsky (grandfather to Mikhail Tukhachevsky BTW)
- Nikolai Lukash
- Georg von Arpshofen
There's also an article on Russian classical musket, the Model 1826 Musket missing, as well as an article on the Siege of Kars (1828). Any help highly appreciated, even stubs would do. :) //Halibutt 20:43, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Prince Karl Emich of Leiningen religion change
Greetings! There's a language issue described at Talk:Prince Karl Emich of Leiningen. We need a Russian-speaking mediator to make clear a BLP question. --ssr (talk) 00:27, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
List of Russian Orthodox churches
Hi, i've started up List of Russian Orthodox churches with a focus so far on major ones having Wikipedia articles -- all of historical and/or architectural interest -- plus a bunch of U.S. National Register-listed ones in Alaska. I wonder if this can be helpful, and i'd welcome any editing contributions. Could someone rate its importance for this wikiproject? I added to Wikiproject Russia's history, art, religion, and human geography task forces, not sure if they all apply. Cheers, --doncram 21:54, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you, that's a very good start with great potential and indeed helpful. As far as rating goes, there is no need to ask—it's all approximate anyway. If you have any specific questions, feel free to post here. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 10, 2013; 23:25 (UTC)
Mark Feygin
There's currently a dispute at Talk:Mark Feygin about whether the article should be overwritten with a copy of the Russian Wikipedia article, and whether the Russian Wikipedia is in itself a reliable source. Third opinions would be welcome. -- Khazar2 (talk) 23:14, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Valeria Lukyanova (girl from Odessa who looks like Barbie)
There's currently a dispute now about deletion of the Valeria Lukyanova article, because some editors think that Valeria is not a notable person (i.e. does not meet General Notability Criteria). Please help the rest world to know your opinion about this model here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Valeria Lukyanova (2nd nomination) Innab (talk) 05:53, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- This is blatant canvassing. Notice left at the AfD discussion page.--Ymblanter (talk) 05:58, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, notifying relevant WikiProjects is considered to be an appropriate form of notification, per WP:CANVASS. But the wording of the notification should have been more neutral, I agree.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 18, 2013; 12:40 (UTC)
- I do not have any problems with the fact of notification, just with the wording.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:11, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, I changed the wording. Innab (talk) 14:06, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, this works.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 19, 2013; 14:26 (UTC)
- Ok, I changed the wording. Innab (talk) 14:06, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
- I do not have any problems with the fact of notification, just with the wording.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:11, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, notifying relevant WikiProjects is considered to be an appropriate form of notification, per WP:CANVASS. But the wording of the notification should have been more neutral, I agree.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 18, 2013; 12:40 (UTC)
References for articles about Russian given names
Privet! Do you guys know how to find some basic sources/references for articles about Russian given names? I've looked, but I haven't found any. In particular, I am worried about 2 articles:
- Soslan (English Wikipedia) -> I wrote it, but I can't find any proper sources for it in English.
- Сослан (Russian Wikipedia) -> I found some Russian sources talking about it, but someone thought the sources are not good enough and nominated the article for deletion...
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks, Azylber (talk) 21:42, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
- As this is not Russian but Ossetic, the best source is the Ossetic etymological dictionary (see pp. 138-140).--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 14:11, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you very much for your help with this, you've made the article a lot better. I know it's not Russian but Ossetic, what I meant to say is that it's common in Russia. Unfortunately, they have deleted the Russian version because they said it was unencyclopedic... I don't get it. But I think now I understand a little bit better why so many talented editors that I know have stopped contributing in the Russian Wikipedia. Thanks for your help! Azylber (talk) 22:50, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
- No bother, I've just copied the information from the dictionary, nothing more.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 00:48, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
- As for Russian Wikipedia, I don't remember what was written in the article, but if you don't agree, you can write there or directly to the admin who deleted this. I'm sure they'll understand. But in my opinion the atmosphere there is better than here. Here I feel like a lonely man in the bare plain, it looks like all the editors interested in the Russian subjects went out of here.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 01:03, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
- Here, the layer of editors interested in Russian subjects is indeed thin, but the atmosphere is very friendly, in contrast to the Russian Wikipedia where mutual insults became the norm and where reverts are the primary dispute resolution avenue.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:04, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
- I strongly disagree. It's friendly until you have some edit conflicts with other editors (and many of them biased and impenetrable). Yes, it'll always be friendly if you only focus on minor edits or meta-activity. But, as you perfectly know, East European/Russian subjects are the very conflictable area here. I, personally, cannot bear taking discussions here and defending (usually alone) my point. Even if I give academic sources it'll be for nothing. So I nearly gave up editing here, and prefer to take really friendly and warm discussions at the RD.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 00:11, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
- Here, the layer of editors interested in Russian subjects is indeed thin, but the atmosphere is very friendly, in contrast to the Russian Wikipedia where mutual insults became the norm and where reverts are the primary dispute resolution avenue.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:04, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you very much for your help with this, you've made the article a lot better. I know it's not Russian but Ossetic, what I meant to say is that it's common in Russia. Unfortunately, they have deleted the Russian version because they said it was unencyclopedic... I don't get it. But I think now I understand a little bit better why so many talented editors that I know have stopped contributing in the Russian Wikipedia. Thanks for your help! Azylber (talk) 22:50, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Translation, transliteration, and titling issues at Mikhail Shuisky (baritone)
I moved a lengthy discussion on my talk page about various issues with the article (especially its title) to Talk:Mikhail Shuisky (baritone)#Translation, transliteration, and titling issues. All input would be welcome, especially from Russian speakers, as I may have got the wrong end of the stick on some of them. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:58, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
Dear Russia experts: Here is an article in which the references are in Russian (I think). Can someone here check it out? Thanks. —Anne Delong (talk) 13:36, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- Clearly notable, links 1, 2, and 8 are reliable sources.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:24, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. It's here now: Evgeny Margulis —Anne Delong (talk) 12:59, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:48, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. It's here now: Evgeny Margulis —Anne Delong (talk) 12:59, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Expert Conclusion
If anyone understands what Expert Conclusion is referring to, could you help add a lead section? Thanks, Cnilep (talk) 04:25, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
This old draft appears to have lots of references, but they are in Russian. Can someone tell if they are reliable sources? The draft will be deleted soon if no one edits or accepts it. —Anne Delong (talk) 00:48, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
- I checked it, and there was a press release, a couple of papers mentioning the chairman of the club, and a couple more which were dead links. This is not enough for notability, though I can not exclude that a thorough search could produce more references. At the time being, given the AfC submission was not edited for 18 months, I speedily deleted it.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:28, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking the time to check this out. With 43,000 of these old drafts to go through, every bit helps! (Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/G13 rescue) —Anne Delong (talk) 15:55, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
Dear Russia experts: The above submission at AfC is about to be deleted as a stale draft. It appears to have some references. Should it be saved? —Anne Delong (talk) 05:18, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
- There are couple of RS, both referring to the launch of the program. They have a Facebook page which basically copies their press-releases, I do not see there any independent coverage. I can not myself find any recent coverage either. May be merge some essential info into Text4baby.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:52, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
- That's a good idea. If anyone wants to do this, now is the time before it disappears. —Anne Delong (talk) 17:48, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
AfD on White Terror
See: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/White Terror. – S. Rich (talk) 21:57, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
Demon (poem)
Broken link - Re. Demon (poem) page, the English tranlation of Demon link does not work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.15.83.253 (talk) 14:36, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Uelen - Printmaking Workshop
Proposal of adding information about an Uelen Art Project hosted by Native Arts Fan club, without it sounding like an advertisement - more for educating about trying to preserve this culture. This is the proposed entry, which would have links to Uelen art, NAFC and its Facebook page.
"They are perhaps most famous for their detailed engraving on walrus ivory which often depicts their legends as well as scenes of traditional activities like hunting and reindeer herding. With the increasing cost of ivory in recent years and the problems associated with exporting it, local artists have had difficulty in marketing their work abroad. In an attempt to try and solve this problem a printmaking workshop was held in Uelen in 2004 by Paul Machnik, a Canadian Master Printmaker. The idea behind the workshop was to introduce an additional medium to the artists which would enable their work to reach a much wider audience so that hopefully they will be able to develop a successful print making program like the Inuit community of Cape Dorset has done in the North of Canada. Twelve of Uelen’s artists aged between 17 and 60 years took part in the workshop. The result of which was a unique series of etchings which can be viewed on this web site."
Does this work within the WikiProject Russia page? We would like to contribute any and all information we can.
George Marsh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Native Arts Fan Club (talk • contribs) 21:34, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Citizenship vs Nationality
An editor has just changed the "nationality" for Repin from "Russian" to "Ukrainian", given he was born in Ukraine. I note that the Robert Burns entry has both "Nationality Scottish" and "Citizenship British". Perhaps we should follow the same practice in the Russian pages? So Repin might be "Nationality Ukrainian" and "Citizenship Russian"? I can see arguments both ways, but what do people think? cwmacdougall 21:00, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
- Nationality is the state of belonging to a nation or, in other words, being a citizen of a state. For Repin's case there was not the Ukrainian state, but Russian state. His nationality as well as citizenship were Russian.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 06:42, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
- No, nationality is not always the same as citizenship, as the British/Scottish example demonstrates, and Soviet passports used to show. I note by the way, that an editor has revised the Repin reference to be "Nationality Russian Empire", which is indeed better than "Russian" or "Ukrainian". cwmacdougall 7:57, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
- I've said nothing new, I follow the common and most accepted way of defining nationality in English. Yes, I know in Britain there also are two different legal notions: British nationality and British citizenship, the latter being the part of the former. But outside of these legal Briticisms, nationality and citizenship are virtually the same things. If you mean nationality as ethnicity (many confuse these two concepts, but they are different) then Repin is not Ukrainian in any way. As for the UK, this analogy is wrong. The UK officially consists of four countries hence it's quite possibly to say about the English nation, Scottish nation, Welsh nation, Northern Irish nation (though better to describe them as geographical and/or ethnic affiliations). But for Russian Empire to be born in Kharkov was no much difference from to be born in Voronezh, the former did not automatically make people Ukrainian in modern sense.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 10:47, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
- If we follow your vague definitions we should make Derzhavin and Shalyapin Tatar and write them "Nationality: Tatar" as they were both born in the territory of modern Tatarstan. Doesn't it look ridiculous, does it? --Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 10:54, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
- I think I was using them in the ethnic sense, as used on Soviet passports, and as I think Brits would use the term too (Mr. Jones is probably "Welsh", even if born in London). But you're right in that sense, Repin would be both nationality and citizenship Russian. cwmacdougall 13:08, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
- In the "ethnic" sense Repin is Russian.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:12, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
- There is a obvious difference for defining ethnicity and nationality in Britain and other English-speaking countries and in the former USSR. Being a Welsh in Britain is not equal to being Ukrainian/Tatar/etc. in the sense used in the USSR/RF. Both the countries have different national policy and history, as a result different connotations and approaches to ethnicity and nationality are applied (not to mention the language differences, nacional’nost’≠nationality). We cannot simply equate them.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 12:47, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
- I think I was using them in the ethnic sense, as used on Soviet passports, and as I think Brits would use the term too (Mr. Jones is probably "Welsh", even if born in London). But you're right in that sense, Repin would be both nationality and citizenship Russian. cwmacdougall 13:08, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
- No, nationality is not always the same as citizenship, as the British/Scottish example demonstrates, and Soviet passports used to show. I note by the way, that an editor has revised the Repin reference to be "Nationality Russian Empire", which is indeed better than "Russian" or "Ukrainian". cwmacdougall 7:57, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
A physical map of (European) Russia needed
Does anybody have a good English-language physical map of (European) Russia something like http://www.worldmapsonline.com/images/KP/klett_extra_large_europe_physical_lg.jpg (but in real resolution)? Importantly, the map shall be composed by geographers and shall not rely on wiki waste-makers.
Presently I try to investigate how this roughly quadrilateral area between Rzhev, Torzhok, Valday, and Toropets is correctly named in English. The abovementioned map shows some inscription on this spot (one can see it halfway between Tver and Ilmen Lake), but the resolution is too low to decypher it. Also, I expect more illiterate (or just missing) names of Russian geographical features in en.WP. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 20:25, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
- Just accidentally found this.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 15:31, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
- This link does not open for me...
- As for the original request, it should be noted that getting "correct" names of features from maps is an inherently flawed concept. The majority of the maps published in the US (and, I suspect, in the Commonwealth countries as well) simply show Russian names transliterated using the BGN/PCGN romanization of Russian system. In my Geographica atlas, for example, "Валдайская возвышенность" is marked as "Valdayskaya vozvyshennost'", which is definitely not what we want as the title of our article. Most other maps take the same approach.
- The English names of the geographic features need to be taken from the reference works which don't just apply BGN/PCGN romanization wholesale to everything that doesn't have a "conventional name" entry in the NGA's geonames database, not from maps.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); November 22, 2013; 16:31 (UTC)
- Strange. Link to the original. The map I found is from Britannica.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 12:03, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
- This one works, thanks. I also see they use actual translations as labels (which by the first look correspond to the article titles in Britannica). Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); November 25, 2013; 13:18 (UTC)
- Strange. Link to the original. The map I found is from Britannica.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 12:03, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
English exonyms for place names
English_exonyms#Russia. Can someone check this please. See also article Talk. Many thanks. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:16, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- I don't see anything specifically about Russia on the talk page, but the entries themselves seem to be OK (although a bunch more can be added, especially from the realm of physical geography). What's missing is a source, but I see that's the case with most other sections as well. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 11, 2013; 03:10 (UTC)
Our WikiProject in the Signpost
WikiProject Russia is scheduled to receive some Signpost coverage in the December 19 issue. To that effect, the participants are invited to answer a few interview questions here. You don't need to answer them all, but the more are answered, the more material the Signpost editors will have to work with. I should note this is an exciting opportunity for our WikiProject to receive some coverage and, hopefully, a few recruits as a result! Even if you contribute to WP:RUSSIA only occasionally, if you have anything to say, please don't hesitate to post a short comment.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); November 22, 2011; 19:59 (UTC)
Hello Russia experts! The above old declined Afc submission will be deleted shortly as a stale draft, but there is an article in the Russian Wikipedia which has plenty of references. Is this a notable company, and if so, would someone like to bring some of the references over? I don't read the language, so I can't tell what's appropriate. —Anne Delong (talk) 13:02, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- Oops, gone now. —Anne Delong (talk) 21:45, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
FAR Rus' Khaganate
I have initiated an FA review for the article, the review page is open for discussions on how to improve the article to bring it back to it's FA status, or for it to be reclassified. Chaosdruid (talk) 01:34, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Logo - coloring issues
Should we update the shades of blue and red to be consistent with File:Flag of Russia.svg? --ThatRusskiiGuy (talk) 02:01, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
- If you are volunteering, then yes :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 11, 2013; 03:04 (UTC)
- Actually, I don't know how to edit a .svg. Computer is apparently not .svg friendly. ThatRusskiiGuy (talk) 00:20, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
- (P.S.: I have decided to become a member) ThatRusskiiGuy (talk) 01:07, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
- Welcome to the project! Feel free to drop a note here if you need any help, pointers, or clarifications.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 12, 2013; 03:44 (UTC)
- Hello? Anyone going to do it for me because I cannot edit a .svg on my computer? ThatRusskiiGuy (talk) 19:20, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
- Anyone? ThatRusskiiGuy (talk) 02:24, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
- Download Inkscape and DIY.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 07:20, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, for minor things like that, unless you can find someone who has both willingness and skill to do it for you, it's easier just to do it yourself. I, for example, would love to help, but can't.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 16, 2013; 15:49 (UTC)
- Attempted to download. Computer almost died. :-( I think you're better off on your own... ThatRusskiiGuy (talk) 00:36, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
- What better excuse to buy a new computer? :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 17, 2013; 13:06 (UTC)
- I don't have any money. ThatRusskiiGuy (talk) 01:22, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
- What better excuse to buy a new computer? :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 17, 2013; 13:06 (UTC)
- Attempted to download. Computer almost died. :-( I think you're better off on your own... ThatRusskiiGuy (talk) 00:36, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, for minor things like that, unless you can find someone who has both willingness and skill to do it for you, it's easier just to do it yourself. I, for example, would love to help, but can't.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 16, 2013; 15:49 (UTC)
- Download Inkscape and DIY.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 07:20, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
- Anyone? ThatRusskiiGuy (talk) 02:24, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
- Hello? Anyone going to do it for me because I cannot edit a .svg on my computer? ThatRusskiiGuy (talk) 19:20, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
- Welcome to the project! Feel free to drop a note here if you need any help, pointers, or clarifications.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 12, 2013; 03:44 (UTC)
- (P.S.: I have decided to become a member) ThatRusskiiGuy (talk) 01:07, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, I don't know how to edit a .svg. Computer is apparently not .svg friendly. ThatRusskiiGuy (talk) 00:20, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
Climate Change in Russia
I looked for information on this page about what will happen when temperatures increase in tropic regions causing famines and water shortages and enormous numbers of climate refugees try to migrate to Russia where water supplies are better and it is easier to grow food. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.115.23.204 (talk) 21:43, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
- So you think it might solve Russia's labour shortage problems? Perhaps. That and other advantages for Russia from "global warming" ought to be mentioned if we are to have the article at all. But I would be inclined to delete this and all the "Climate Change in XXXX" articles as duplicating material in other articles. cwmacdougall 7:25, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Translation help
Can someone with knowledge of the Russian alphabet please put this list [1] in correct alphabetical order in Russian? Also can you verify the spellings are correct for each country. Thanks. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:35, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Dear Russian experts: This page was submitted at Afc to become an article last April, and was declined. Now it's a stale draft and will soon be deleted under db-g13. Is this a notable topic that should be saved? A lot of work has been put into it. —Anne Delong (talk) 17:00, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- We already have Mat (Russian profanity). If someone wants to merge them, this would be the best solution; if not, it can go.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:03, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- Well, it won't be me, and it could disappear at any time. Thanks for checking this out. —Anne Delong (talk) 21:47, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
deletion discussion
- Altenmann >t 03:26, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Nomination of Genocide definitions, Definitions of pogrom and Definitions of fascism for deletion
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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Oncenawhile (talk) 09:54, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Translation help - Reposted
Can someone with knowledge of the Russian alphabet please put this list [2] in correct alphabetical order in Russian? Also can you verify the spellings are correct for each country. Thanks. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 06:15, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you so much! Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 16:04, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry one more thing, is Chinese Taipei listed as a being a "c" or a "t"? Same with Korea is it a R or K? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 16:07, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
- I do not know. I would place them with C and K, respectively, but what the authorities decide we will probably only know in real time.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:23, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
- In 2006 and 2010 Korea came under K but as Republic of Korea. Chinese Taipei came under the T's. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 16:43, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
- Sounds reasonable.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:59, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
- In 2006 and 2010 Korea came under K but as Republic of Korea. Chinese Taipei came under the T's. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 16:43, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
- I do not know. I would place them with C and K, respectively, but what the authorities decide we will probably only know in real time.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:23, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
2013 amnesty law
The recent amnesty law is widely discussed (including in the WP:ITN) and deserves a new article, I think. It could be linked from a number of prominent articles (about notable freed prisoners, such as Pussy Riot members). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:42, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- I already created two redlinks for 2013 amnesty in Russia--Ymblanter (talk) 08:21, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- ru:Список амнистий в России List of amnesties in Russia--Kaiyr (talk) 16:39, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- Interesting, would be nice to see it translated. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:24, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
- I can possibly translate it, but it is severely undersourced.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:50, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
- Interesting, would be nice to see it translated. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:24, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
- ru:Список амнистий в России List of amnesties in Russia--Kaiyr (talk) 16:39, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Russian IPA pronunciation needed
Can someone familiar with both IPA and Russian phonology help me get the IPA rendering for Nasreddin Murat-Khan's Russified name Насреддин Муратханов / Nasreddin Muratkhanov? Thanks in advance. —ШαмıQ✍ @ 09:20, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
- Russian pronunciation: [nəsrʲɪˈdʲin mʊrɐtˈxanəf].--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 16:10, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks once again. —ШαмıQ✍ @ 17:39, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Dear Russia experts:
This old abandoned Afc submission about a Russian bass player is about to be deleted as a stale draft unless references are added. There may be references in Russian, but I can't check. Is anyone interested in working on this article? —Anne Delong (talk) 16:43, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
- He is notable, but I an afraid the article needs to be written from scratch.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:55, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
- I've checked his article on the Russian wikipedia but it doesn't have any references either, unfortunately. Azylber (talk) 17:27, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
- There are some available, for example [3] [4] [5] [6] (the last one only mentions him but the first three go into some detail). After all, the guy was a part of a group which has somewhat of a cult status. The problem is that the AfC needs to be complete rewritten.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:40, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
- Well, if someone who can read the references wants to fix it, any edit will postpone the deletion for six months. If not, maybe the sources which have been found could be added to the Russian article. Thanks for taking the time to look at this. —Anne Delong (talk) 23:33, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
- Too late it seems Azylber (talk) 00:42, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- I deleted it after seeing the comments above about the need for a total rewrite. There wasn't any text that would warrant inclusion in an article — perhaps it could have been sourced, but you'd have an easier time writing anew than comparing the source and the old text to see what could be sourced and what couldn't. The only thing other than raw text was an image, File:Alexander Titov portrait.jpg. Nyttend (talk) 01:41, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- Stub: Alexander Titov (rock musician) Azylber (talk) 02:21, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks to all of you for checking this out and fixing up the problem. Now we have a new article instead of a stale submission. —Anne Delong (talk) 23:31, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- I wouldn't quite call it an article, it's only a stub :) But yeah, of course this is better! Azylber (talk) 15:00, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks to all of you for checking this out and fixing up the problem. Now we have a new article instead of a stale submission. —Anne Delong (talk) 23:31, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- Stub: Alexander Titov (rock musician) Azylber (talk) 02:21, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- I deleted it after seeing the comments above about the need for a total rewrite. There wasn't any text that would warrant inclusion in an article — perhaps it could have been sourced, but you'd have an easier time writing anew than comparing the source and the old text to see what could be sourced and what couldn't. The only thing other than raw text was an image, File:Alexander Titov portrait.jpg. Nyttend (talk) 01:41, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- Too late it seems Azylber (talk) 00:42, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- Well, if someone who can read the references wants to fix it, any edit will postpone the deletion for six months. If not, maybe the sources which have been found could be added to the Russian article. Thanks for taking the time to look at this. —Anne Delong (talk) 23:33, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
- There are some available, for example [3] [4] [5] [6] (the last one only mentions him but the first three go into some detail). After all, the guy was a part of a group which has somewhat of a cult status. The problem is that the AfC needs to be complete rewritten.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:40, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Invitation to User Study
Would you be interested in participating in a user study? We are a team at University of Washington studying methods for finding collaborators within a Wikipedia community. We are looking for volunteers to evaluate a new visualization tool. All you need to do is to prepare for your laptop/desktop, web camera, and speaker for video communication with Google Hangout. We will provide you with a Amazon gift card in appreciation of your time and participation. For more information about this study, please visit our wiki page (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Finding_a_Collaborator). If you would like to participate in our user study, please send me a message at Wkmaster (talk) 22:45, 13 January 2014 (UTC).
Find sources for an article?
Hi! I need some help finding sources for an article about a Russian film, It Doesn't Hurt Me. The name in Russian is Мне не больно, I think, but the big problem is that the phrase is so common that I'm coming up with a lot of random hits. Can anyone help me look for sources? The film appears to be quite notable, but it's currently unsourced for the moment. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 07:30, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
- It should not be a problem, but what do you want to source? Synopsis? The release date is now sourced by RS, as far as I see.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:38, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
- If you could find some more reviews or anything to back up the award wins, that would be wonderful. So far I have some light coverage, but I can't really find any reviews of the movie at all or anything that covers the awards it was nominated for. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 10:27, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
- Ok, I will have a look later.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:43, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Help with a Russian speaking editor?
Hi! I was wondering if anyone could help a user out. The user in question is User:Leos hellscream. He came on here to create an article about his band, Fiend, which I had to delete due to it being promotional in tone as well as lacking reliable sources. However there were some assertions of notability on the page, so there might be sources in Russian. I've left a message on Leo's talk page with some information and asked for him to find sources, but the problem is that English is his second language. He does speak well and has a fairly good grasp of English for the most part, but I'm afraid of running into some elements of our GNG and RS guidelines that might require some explanation in Russian. I thought that it would probably be a bit better if he had someone who spoke Russian fluently to help him with any questions he might have about our policies. It would also help with any sources he might provide, as I can only look at them with Google Translate, which has obvious limitations. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 09:19, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- I added their talk page to my watchlist, but they do not seem to have ever responded to anybody, so it would be pretty difficult to help in this case. SPA usually do not engage into any conversations.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:23, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- And the article was also AfDed on the Russian Wikipedia, where they similarly do not participate in any discussions.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:27, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- Ah... I was wondering about an article on the Russian WP. This makes me glad that I asked here for help- I wouldn't have been able to find the entry on there. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 10:00, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- Their non-deleted global contributions are all except for one just in one article.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:16, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
RFC
Could use some fresh eyeballs and voices at this previously stale merge proposal, splitting the content at Opium Wars into the articles First Opium War and Second Opium War and turning the page into a dab between them, to avoid the existing content fork. — LlywelynII 13:46, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
WP Russia in the Signpost
The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Russia for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot (talk) 17:05, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
- I've answered some of the questions. It'd be great if other participants could pitch in, so opinions other than mine would be represented. A little publicity never hurts!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); January 29, 2014; 15:03 (UTC)
Archived some threads
I've archived some inactive threads to subsections which were notifications about discussions that have since been closed. — Cirt (talk) 08:52, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
A fairly new refinery
Do you guys think Chernigov Refinery is notable enough for its own wiki page? Someone not using his real name (talk) 23:49, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
- The plant is presumably notable, but notability of the company is not obvious from the article (one source is a blog and three others are primary sources), and the article is too promotional, so I do not think it could survive AfD, not in the present state.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:02, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, and now I also doubt that the plant is notable: The construction has just been completed, and they call it a "mini-plant". Apparenty smth of a purely local notability.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:04, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
The Lumi?re Brothers this and that
en:WP has two articles, The Lumiere Brothers Photogallery and Lumiere Brothers Center for Photography, on Moscow institutions that seem closely related. Is the photogallery the same as the center, or is it just an important part thereof? Or am I missing something obvious here?
Unfortunately I can't read Russian, and although lumiere.ru offers an option "in English", this is merely a link to a Google translation.
Googling shows that "The Lumiere Brothers Center for Photography" is a name that does get quite a bit of use. The brothers referred to are surely Auguste and Louis Lumière, but the accented form "Lumière" seems to turn up less often. Here at art-moscow.ru, though, we do get "Lumière Brothers Center of Photography".
Informed comments welcome. -- Hoary (talk) 00:11, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- As far as I can get from here this is the same gallery which has two locations. Concerning the accent, obviously in Russian an accented and a non-accented form are spelled the same way.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:51, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
WikiProject Bandy
I have proposed to create a WikiProject for bandy. Please comment at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Bandy. Andrew S. Knight (talk) 17:13, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
TAFI needs global view
Today's article for improvement is Reconnaissance satellite, which is currently tagged with {{globalize}}. The Russian perspective is better represented than other countries, and there's even a template for Russian reconnaissance satellites: {{Russian Reconnaissance Satellites}}, but obviously Russia had much to do with the development and early history of spy satellites, so it seems like this may be of interest to your WikiProject. 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 14:51, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
English Wikipedia had two articles, both translations of ru:Генко, Нестор Карлович. They were under the names Nestor Genko and Nestor von Henko. After a merger proposal, I merged the two articles to Nestor von Henko. Since then, I've seen that the Genko spelling is more common and the Genko Forest Belt is best known by the name spelled with the "G". I'd appreciate some input by someone familiar with Russian names to determine the best title for the article about Генко, Нестор Карлович. Thanks, SchreiberBike talk 05:45, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for finding this! To answer your question, the common practice is to use the spelling most prevalent in the English-language sources on the subject. If no one spelling clearly dominates, then the spelling produced by WP:RUS (in this case, "Nestor Genko") or the one closest to it is to be used. The name of the forest, by the way, does not figure into the decision at all and is decided on its own merit. Just because a person's name is commonly spelled a certain way in English does not at all mean that any derivatives would be spelled the same (Tchaikovsky vs. Chaykovsky to wit). Hope this helps!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 19, 2014; 14:31 (UTC)
- Thanks, it looks like Genko wins as most common usage, and there's no reason to keep the von? There was a comment at Talk:Nestor von Henko that "The correct transliteration is 'Nestor von Henko' (as the person has German origin)", so I'm double checking. SchreiberBike talk 19:17, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
- Well, the man is not best known for his connection with Germany, and if as you say "Genko" is used more often in sources than "von Henko", then "Genko" it should be. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 20, 2014; 19:31 (UTC)
- Thanks, it looks like Genko wins as most common usage, and there's no reason to keep the von? There was a comment at Talk:Nestor von Henko that "The correct transliteration is 'Nestor von Henko' (as the person has German origin)", so I'm double checking. SchreiberBike talk 19:17, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
I am leaving, guys.
I have decided to retire from this WikiProject as well as Wikipedia as a whole. I am sorry, but I am leaving for good. ThatRusskiiGuy (talk) 03:39, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
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Translation and web search verification requested
A non-reliably published source [7] indicated that Kazys Morkunas had earned what I believe was USSR State Prize in 1983 or 1984. Could someone verify if the there is a confirmation on the official site [8] for the award the succeeded it State Prize State Prize of the Russian Federation Thank you! -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 02:41, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
- I added a reliable reference to the article. The prize was awarded in 1985.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:32, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
- thank you!-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 21:30, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
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Adding stress marks to Russian names
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- I'm closing this per a WP:ANRFC request. Consensus is in favor of the proposal. Sandstein 19:54, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi all, as some of you will know, some time ago there was a proposal to remove stress marks from Russian words that appear inside the text of articles on the English Wikipedia. The decision was to keep the stress marks, as there is consensus that they are useful.
Because they are useful, some of us are interested in taking this to the next level, and actively add stress marks to as many articles as possible. We'll only work on Russian words that appear inside calls to the lang-ru template, and we will only add the stress marks when we are sure that it is safe to do so, that is, that the information is correct and there is no ambiguity.
Could I please ask you guys if there is consensus for this task? I would really appreciate your support, because I want to improve as many articles as possible.
Thanks very much, Azylber (talk) 23:21, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
- More details on what is exactly planned to be done are available here: Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/RaBOTnik--Ymblanter (talk) 14:11, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
- Support, naturally.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); January 10, 2014; 14:34 (UTC)
- Comment. I've listed this RfC on {{Centralized discussion}} to garner wider input.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); January 10, 2014; 14:44 (UTC)
- Partial support. Don't forget that, unlike e.g. Modern Greek, pronunciation/stress marks are not routinely used in Russian texts, except in contexts where the text is trying to teach someone the language – so, dictionaries or children's books, for example. Therefore pepperring all Russian words with stress marks might give the misleading impression that these things are used in Russian more often than they actually are. I would suggest that en.wp follow the ru.wp policy that, in ordinary contexts (so, where the Russian word in question does not have a particularly unusual or uncommon pronunciation), stress marks be added at most at the first mention of the word. So, if an article has two or more instances of {{ru}} with the same parameter, only the first instance should be modified. So, e.g.
{{ru|Пу́шкин}}
at the first mention of it, but{{ru|Пушкин}}
thereafter. It Is Me Here t / c 23:12, 10 January 2014 (UTC) - Weak support. If the stress marks are used in Russian, we're doing a disservice to readers by omitting them, so I strongly support their addition. My only concern is that this looks like a kind of spellchecking bot, which isn't permitted by our bot policy — I'm just afraid that this isn't feasible for a bot. If you can write (or find someone to write) a bot to do this without encountering context-sensitive problems, I'll wholeheartedly support. Nyttend (talk) 23:12, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose - Stress marks are only used in textbooks, not in ordinary daily Russian. An early version of accent marks on Russian words on WP had them on top of consonants, which was flat out bizarre. I have no confidence in this proposal, nor do I think it advisable. I am okay with ë in place of e, where appropriate, but not accent marks. Carrite (talk) 03:50, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
- That they are used "only in textbooks" is simply not true. Stress marks are routinely used in all reference materials, including encyclopedias (where the first occurrence of the title is normally stressed). Indeed, the majority of our articles containing Russian already show stress; the bot will merely help finish this work. Consider also that it will help us deal with proper names, for which stress information is not otherwise easy to look up. On top of all that, the goal of this English Wikipedia is not to paint a picture of "ordinary daily Russian". Any Russian text introduced into the articles is introduced to further the usefulness of the encyclopedia, not because we feel like it. It's there to provide readers with original name and its encyclopedic aspects (and that includes romanization, pronunciation, and stress).
Regarding stressed consonants, if there are indeed such occurrences currently in the English Wikipedia (i.e., if it's a current problem and not something that happened years ago in the "early version"), this bot will actually fix them. Note also that the test run by the bot introduced exactly zero incorrect edits. With that in mind, is your no-confidence vote based on the review of the bot's test run, or is it simply a gut feeling unsupported by evidence? I'd hate to see a good proposal shot down only because some of the editors didn't look into how it is exactly this bot operates... And if your concerns are rooted in something else, would you be so kind to share your reasons? Perhaps it would be possible to address them in the bot's mechanism instead of killing off an otherwise useful tool altogether.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); January 13, 2014; 14:41 (UTC)- You are actually the one misrepresenting things, I believe. Here's a book off my shelf at random: K.A. Zalesskii, Imperiia Stalina: Biograficheskii entsiklopedicheskii slovar'. — No accents on names. The fact that your signature includes a very NON-standard accent (Hérissonovich) I will observe; why do you use that? Not that important, but it does indicate a high tolerance for non-standard accent marks. Not sure what "Ï" even is, but that's neither here nor there. This is not a proposal I'm even a little bit comfortable with. I would like some more input from native-speakers here. Carrite (talk) 03:32, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
- That they are used "only in textbooks" is simply not true. Stress marks are routinely used in all reference materials, including encyclopedias (where the first occurrence of the title is normally stressed). Indeed, the majority of our articles containing Russian already show stress; the bot will merely help finish this work. Consider also that it will help us deal with proper names, for which stress information is not otherwise easy to look up. On top of all that, the goal of this English Wikipedia is not to paint a picture of "ordinary daily Russian". Any Russian text introduced into the articles is introduced to further the usefulness of the encyclopedia, not because we feel like it. It's there to provide readers with original name and its encyclopedic aspects (and that includes romanization, pronunciation, and stress).
- Could you provide some examples of where stress marks are using for Russian names besides textbooks? Kaldari (talk) 08:12, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
- Taking one book from my shelf at random: "Города России. Энциклопедия". Научное издательство "Большая Российская энциклопедия". Москва, 1998. (Cities of Russia. Encyclopedia.) Every title there bears stress marks.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); January 15, 2014; 13:06 (UTC)
- Could you provide some examples of where stress marks are using for Russian names besides textbooks? Kaldari (talk) 08:12, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
- Support, I know very basic Russian and I find stress marks very useful. Andries (talk) 09:59, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
OpposeThis is spelling correction bot, a task which is perennially denied at BRFA, since it requires context-sensitive judgments by human editors. DavidLeighEllis (talk) 19:31, 15 January 2014 (UTC)- Not really. The bot will only add stress marks to the words contained in the list which has been thoroughly reviewed and vetted by human editors. Words for which there is a possibility (no matter how slight) of ambiguous interpretation are explicitly excluded. In other words, the bot's list only contains words which can be stressed exactly one way. Does this change your mind?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); January 15, 2014; 19:52 (UTC)
- Are you saying that all proper names which do not contain the same stress marks as words of the same spelling will be accounted for? DavidLeighEllis (talk) 20:05, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I understood the question, but what I am basically saying is that the bot's scope is going to be limited to unambiguous entries from this list (which has been reviewed by several editors, including native speakers). If a proper name can also be a common noun with exact same spelling, and if they are stressed differently, such a word (either as a proper or a common noun) will not be included in the list and the bot will simply skip it. Is this what you are asking?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); January 15, 2014; 20:13 (UTC)
- Okay, I'm striking my oppose, based on the explanation of how the bot will be set up. DavidLeighEllis (talk) 20:32, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for your consideration.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); January 15, 2014; 20:45 (UTC)
- Okay, I'm striking my oppose, based on the explanation of how the bot will be set up. DavidLeighEllis (talk) 20:32, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I understood the question, but what I am basically saying is that the bot's scope is going to be limited to unambiguous entries from this list (which has been reviewed by several editors, including native speakers). If a proper name can also be a common noun with exact same spelling, and if they are stressed differently, such a word (either as a proper or a common noun) will not be included in the list and the bot will simply skip it. Is this what you are asking?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); January 15, 2014; 20:13 (UTC)
- Are you saying that all proper names which do not contain the same stress marks as words of the same spelling will be accounted for? DavidLeighEllis (talk) 20:05, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
- Not really. The bot will only add stress marks to the words contained in the list which has been thoroughly reviewed and vetted by human editors. Words for which there is a possibility (no matter how slight) of ambiguous interpretation are explicitly excluded. In other words, the bot's list only contains words which can be stressed exactly one way. Does this change your mind?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); January 15, 2014; 19:52 (UTC)
- Support - an excellent idea! (P.S. any chance of developing one for Ukrainian and one for Belarusian? No? I can always live in hope...) --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:51, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
- Weak oppose. The premise behind the bot seems good, and the way it is proposed to be implemented seems sound. However, I am worried by the discussion at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/RaBOTnik, in particular how Azylber tries to persuade Hellknowz that the bot should be approved, rather than actually following the bot policy and seeking wider discussion. Similarly, I am troubled by the fact that Azylber didn't mention that discussion in this RfC, that it was a different user who listed this discussion at WP:CENT, and that this hasn't been publicised at WP:VPT. (If it has been publicised in other places, please let me know, as my view could change based on that.) So basically, I think the bot is a good idea, but if there are concerns over its implementation, I am not sure that Azylber will deal with them in a way that satisfies WP:BOTCOMM. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:54, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- The bot was allowed to edit 50 proper articles in article space (including several high-profile ones). It's already been 23 days, and so far:
- most of the articles have already been edited by dozens of editors after the bot edited them
- nobody has reverted any edits done by the bot
- nobody has undone any changes done by the bot
- nobody has complained about any of the edits made by the bot
- What I said in that conversation is that in my opinion, the bot's flawless performance in improving articles + the consensus shown in previous related discussions + the commitment of all the volunteer editors that worked for months to create the bot and will keep working on it is enough. But in his opinion, all that is not enough. Fine, so then as he suggested we started this new thread here, in the most relevant WikiProject. And 23 days after the bot improved all those articles, we're still sitting here having this discussion.
- I think seeking wider and wider input is good because it gives people the opportunity to provide more and more useful insight. And we have learned a lot about during these discussions and picked up many useful ideas. But we need to draw the line somewhere and get started properly. Otherwise we'll spend all of our time talking and none of our time improving articles.
- I would also like to emphasise again that this is the result of a group effort, and that we will continue to work together to address any concerns that may arise. Therefore your ad hominem arguments are irrelevant to the matter being discussed here.
- Could I please ask you to look at the facts again and reconsider your vote? I would really appreciate your support. Azylber (talk) 17:09, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- You mention "the consensus shown in previous related discussions", but this consensus is lacking, in my opinion. Because of the nature of this bot task, you need to have an explicit consensus for it among the general community. That means that in the discussion where the consensus is found, the community needs to be aware that a) this task will be done automatically, b) that it will affect thousands of articles, and c) that you will be the bot operator. It also means that d) the discussion should be publicised in as many relevant places as possible, so that editors who it may affect are aware of it. These things haven't been the case in previous discussions. I may change my oppose if you make an active effort to publicise this discussion more widely, as that will help show that you understand the level of consensus required for the task by WP:BOTREQUIRE. But merely trying to persuade me, as you have done above, and as you did to Hellknowz on the BRFA page, is not going to work, I'm afraid. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:34, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
- The bot was allowed to edit 50 proper articles in article space (including several high-profile ones). It's already been 23 days, and so far:
- Mr. Stradivarius, it's on the discussions board on all of the Village Pump pages. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 22:11, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- I haven't seen it on WP:VPT, which I read regularly. And I couldn't see it on the other village pump pages when I looked at them, or in the most recent archive. The village pump pages do transclude Template:Centralized discussion, which is what I assume you mean by your comment, but it would be nice to have an actual section on each of those pages so that people with the village pump pages on their watchlists will be notified. I would also recommend putting a notice at WP:BON to notify bot operators, and maybe at WT:LANG and WT:LING in case editors there have any linguistic insights. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:34, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
- @Mr. Stradivarius: Apologies for missing this response. Yes, they are transcluded, therefore awareness of such discussions is contingent on not being focussed on following discussions on the relevant VPT page (which is usually what we're all paying attention to). Perhaps you should draw this to the attention of the techies. I believe it would be extremely useful and would be happy to support you on such a suggestion. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:52, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
- I haven't seen it on WP:VPT, which I read regularly. And I couldn't see it on the other village pump pages when I looked at them, or in the most recent archive. The village pump pages do transclude Template:Centralized discussion, which is what I assume you mean by your comment, but it would be nice to have an actual section on each of those pages so that people with the village pump pages on their watchlists will be notified. I would also recommend putting a notice at WP:BON to notify bot operators, and maybe at WT:LANG and WT:LING in case editors there have any linguistic insights. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:34, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
- Mr. Stradivarius, it's on the discussions board on all of the Village Pump pages. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 22:11, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose a bot on technical grounds. I don't know a huge amount about the subject, but wouldn't this be better done server-side? First, it's an unambiguous case (i.e., a version with stress marks can be uniquely derived from an unmarked version), inserting stress marks into the page's wikicode would be redundant information that can drift out of sync and makes editing harder. Second, running a bot is a more involved process than maintaining a template/module system, and it's harder for new editors to help out with maintenance or improvements. I don't have a view on whether including stress marks is a good or bad idea in the first place. Good King René (talk) 16:06, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
- No, it is actually ambiguous, this is why we had to go through the inclusion list and mark unambiguous cases.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:27, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I don't understand. If there's ambiguity in the words being touched, it'll need human resolution and so what's being proposed is more like assisted editing than a bot; if that's the case, I'm neutral on the matter. If there's no ambiguity (e.g., only touching words on a pre-vetted whitelist), a fully automatic bot could run but my concern about being better done server-side stands. Good King René (talk) 22:03, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
- Bot will only replace instances which are unambiguos and will not touch the rest. The ambiguous words obviously need human intervention. As a preparation, we went through the table of all words which occur in at least eight articles and marked stress in unambiguous cases.--Ymblanter (talk) 22:17, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, in your terms it is a prevetted whitelist.--Ymblanter (talk) 22:18, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I don't understand. If there's ambiguity in the words being touched, it'll need human resolution and so what's being proposed is more like assisted editing than a bot; if that's the case, I'm neutral on the matter. If there's no ambiguity (e.g., only touching words on a pre-vetted whitelist), a fully automatic bot could run but my concern about being better done server-side stands. Good King René (talk) 22:03, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
- Strong support - this is a very useful suggestion. It's worth noting that Russian WP even uses stress marks for many articles (usually the first time the titular word appears in the opening sentence). Malick78 (talk) 22:21, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
- Partial support It seems to me to be a potentially useful tool, but I'd mirror the opinion stated by a few others above that it should affect the first occurrence of the word only. Also, I noticed your example in the bot request shows "Ива́н Ива́нович Ивано́в", in which the consonants are shown stressed - I've seen the stressed vowels indicated in beginning textbooks; is that not more typical? AdventurousSquirrel (talk) 15:59, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
- The stress marks are actually above the vowels, but in some fonts the positioning can indeed look confusing. There really isn't much to be done about that, apart from forcing a particular font on everyone (which would be a terrible idea). The easiest way to check where the mark is actually positioned is (using the example above) to position the cursor between "а" and "н" and to press Backspace. If the stress mark (or both the letter "а" and the stress mark) disappears, it was placed correctly. If letter "а" disappears and "н́" remains, then the stress mark is indeed above the consonant. Needless to say, the bot has been tested to places the stress marks above the vowels only. Does this help?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 3, 2014; 16:10 (UTC)
- They look fine to me in that example (i.e. they show over the vowels). I don't really have an opinion on whether we should use them regularly. I personally don't find them necessary except for very uncommon proper nouns, but wouldn't bother me either if they were optionally used in the lead of some articles etc. Someone not using his real name (talk) 23:54, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
- Ah, yes thank you. I checked using a couple of different browsers on different computers and it always looked to have the same stress placement, but neglected to notice after I posted that they appeared in the correct places over the vowels, even though they appear over the consonants in editing view. I guess it's as you say, a problem with my font display which makes it a problem for "
{{ru|Пу́шкин}}
" and not "Пу́шкин". AdventurousSquirrel (talk) 05:56, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Ah, yes thank you. I checked using a couple of different browsers on different computers and it always looked to have the same stress placement, but neglected to notice after I posted that they appeared in the correct places over the vowels, even though they appear over the consonants in editing view. I guess it's as you say, a problem with my font display which makes it a problem for "
- They look fine to me in that example (i.e. they show over the vowels). I don't really have an opinion on whether we should use them regularly. I personally don't find them necessary except for very uncommon proper nouns, but wouldn't bother me either if they were optionally used in the lead of some articles etc. Someone not using his real name (talk) 23:54, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
- The stress marks are actually above the vowels, but in some fonts the positioning can indeed look confusing. There really isn't much to be done about that, apart from forcing a particular font on everyone (which would be a terrible idea). The easiest way to check where the mark is actually positioned is (using the example above) to position the cursor between "а" and "н" and to press Backspace. If the stress mark (or both the letter "а" and the stress mark) disappears, it was placed correctly. If letter "а" disappears and "н́" remains, then the stress mark is indeed above the consonant. Needless to say, the bot has been tested to places the stress marks above the vowels only. Does this help?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 3, 2014; 16:10 (UTC)
- Support, as per Ëzhiki. It is sometimes difficult even for a native speaker (like me!) to determine which syllable is stressed when faced with a new word! Grue 20:07, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Support - this is a great idea and per the discussion underDavidLeighEllis's comment, above. - tucoxn\talk 23:33, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Should maps of Russia be changed to include Crimea?
See also a relevant discussion here. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:32, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Sapun-gora, Heracles peninsula
- Sapun-gora move to Sapun Ridge - use English
- Heracles peninsula move to Heracles Peninsula - use upper case like for all other peninsulas
Tibet2014 (talk) 21:41, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
- You may want to read the policies first, since almost none of your edits today comply with them.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:59, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
- If you can only make personal attack, without attacking a specific wrong doing you should maybe read the policies yourself. Tibet2014 (talk) 23:53, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
Crimean borders - detachment of northern Arabat Spit and Sevastopol
I improved border and status, see here. But when was northern Arabat Spit and when Sevastopol detached? Tibet2014 (talk) 23:55, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
Russian law question: On what date did Crimea become legally Russian territory?
Could persons knowledgeable on Russian law kindly help answer the above question. One editor says it was from when the accession treaty was signed; another editor says it was from when the accession treaty was ratified. Input requested at Talk:Republic of Crimea (country)#On what date did Reunification with Russia occur?. Thanks. Frenchmalawi (talk) 14:34, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
Republic of Crimea - merge country into federal subject
You may like to look at this merge proposal. It proposes to merge the article about the one day country (Republic of Crimea (country)) covering almost all of the Crimean Peninsula into the article about the federal subject (Republic of Crimea) which does not cover the Sevastopol area. Tibet2014 (talk) 11:46, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
- By the way, we need more reasonable people to overturn user:Dennis Brown’s ignominious “closure” of the discussion, after that the title now redirects to a Russian federal subject covering only a part of the original territory. There is an ongoing discussion at WP:AN #Reverting merge about the short-lived independence of Crimea as a country. IMHO a redirect to the political status of Crimea is a better solution, but other reasonable options may be considered too. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 09:10, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
garbled text in mid-importance article
(quoted from Talk:The Death of Koschei the Deathless#garble):
The underlined clause, in The Death of Koschei the Deathless#Plot, is garbled:
- Soon after Ivan finds out that Koschei took Marya Morevna away, and chases him. When he gets him for the first time, Koschei tells Ivan he lets him go, but Ivan doesn't give in, and Koschei kills him, puts his remains into a barrel and throws it into the sea.
I have no idea what's meant, so I'm going to mention it on the pages of the three projects that claim interest in the page. --Thnidu (talk) 15:53, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- Replied there.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:04, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Heads of government
Can members of the Supreme Privy Council, conferency ministers of the Conferency at the Highest Court and members of the Imperial Council be counted as "heads of government"? Regards.--Tomcat (7) 10:51, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Could someone tell me what the text in this images says? Thanks.
Candleabracadabra (talk) 21:09, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
- It's in the old Russian orthography; here's the modern rendition (rough translation is in parentheses):
- "Кулич-город" (Kulich-city)
- Стоит Кулич-город, величается, (Kulich-city is standing, glorifying itself)
- Над другими городами восхваляется: (Belauding itself over other cities)
- "А и нет славней меня места! (There is no other place nicer [or more famous] than me!)
- "Весь я — творог да тесто!" (For I am all [made] of quark and dough!)
- Hope this helps.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 9, 2014; 21:28 (UTC)
- Very interesting. Thank you very much. Is quark used to make kulich? Any idea what the red blossom looking iconography in the image is? Or the white hills? Is that the cheese? Eaten with kulich? I will have to read that article more carefully and see what it says. Thanks again and for any additional insights into the symbolism of and significance of the image. Candleabracadabra (talk) 02:14, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- Different regions have different names for kulich and different ways to make them. The one with cheese is a different version of kulich. [9]. This website talks about the differences in Russia and Ukraine. [10] The red flowers look like poppies to me, but considering that the artist is a set and theater designer, it could be anything. There's a lot of oral history that's been lost during 200 years of Soviet occupation, and the internet helps to preserve some of it, but most of it is just lost. Thank you for bringing attention to this tradition. USchick (talk) 04:25, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- Any idea what the cheese mound/ cake would be called in English? Curd cake? Sernik/ syrnyk? Is there a difference between Kulchi and Paska (bread)?Candleabracadabra (talk) 05:17, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- Now you got me interested, lol. Apparently kulich is a Russian word and paska is a Ukrainian word. So in Russian language you would have a regular kulich and a cheese kulich. In Ukrainian you would have a regular paska and a cheese paska. According to this site, you eat both of them together [11] by spreading the cheese one on the other one. I'm not familiar with the cheese one. I know that the dough one, you start baking on a Wednesday night to be finished before Friday. Can't bake on Friday. It has to rise 3 different times. You need to only have good thoughts while you're making it and you can't sit down the entire time because you don't want it to fall (like a suffle). It's all very complicated and very superstitious (by modern standards). Google: Easter cheese paska recipe. Enjoy! USchick (talk) 05:54, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- Also, one small kulich (or paska) is made for each member of the family. Then you also make a large one for the entire family to share. Additional individual (small ones) are made for friends and family or visitors. Since everyone has their own recipe, you get to taste what other people are making and see how they decorate. It's a great big production with friends and family. It's a lot of fun. Just like in the poster, there's a large one and many individual ones. USchick (talk) 06:05, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- Now you got me interested, lol. Apparently kulich is a Russian word and paska is a Ukrainian word. So in Russian language you would have a regular kulich and a cheese kulich. In Ukrainian you would have a regular paska and a cheese paska. According to this site, you eat both of them together [11] by spreading the cheese one on the other one. I'm not familiar with the cheese one. I know that the dough one, you start baking on a Wednesday night to be finished before Friday. Can't bake on Friday. It has to rise 3 different times. You need to only have good thoughts while you're making it and you can't sit down the entire time because you don't want it to fall (like a suffle). It's all very complicated and very superstitious (by modern standards). Google: Easter cheese paska recipe. Enjoy! USchick (talk) 05:54, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- Any idea what the cheese mound/ cake would be called in English? Curd cake? Sernik/ syrnyk? Is there a difference between Kulchi and Paska (bread)?Candleabracadabra (talk) 05:17, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- Different regions have different names for kulich and different ways to make them. The one with cheese is a different version of kulich. [9]. This website talks about the differences in Russia and Ukraine. [10] The red flowers look like poppies to me, but considering that the artist is a set and theater designer, it could be anything. There's a lot of oral history that's been lost during 200 years of Soviet occupation, and the internet helps to preserve some of it, but most of it is just lost. Thank you for bringing attention to this tradition. USchick (talk) 04:25, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- Very interesting. Thank you very much. Is quark used to make kulich? Any idea what the red blossom looking iconography in the image is? Or the white hills? Is that the cheese? Eaten with kulich? I will have to read that article more carefully and see what it says. Thanks again and for any additional insights into the symbolism of and significance of the image. Candleabracadabra (talk) 02:14, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your help USchick. I created an article on cheese paska. It certainly needs a lot of work. One small wrinkle of interest to me remains the flowers. They show up in this painting as well:
I wonder what they are? You still think red poppies? Is there a symbolism associated with that flower for Easter? Candleabracadabra (talk) 23:14, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
- This source says the red poppy is the national flower of Ukraine. And the petals do look a bit like poppies although the leaves not so much. Is the ullustration Russian or Ukrainian? And why would a national flower be emphasized for a religious holiday? I wonder if there is some deeper symbolism or tradition? A statement about Ukraine? Perhaps it's silly to obsess over such a small point, but I think it's interesting. Do we know where the poem originates? And does it say kulich or pashka in the older orthography? I think the illustrator is Russian. What was the relation between Ukraine and Russia during that period? I will have to look into it more. So much to learn. Thanks again for your help! Interesting subject. The way the Ukrainian word for the kulich, pashka, has come to refer to the (traditionally) formed in mold cheese spread is also interesting. A close relation and some misunderstandings it seems between these two. Candleabracadabra (talk) 03:01, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
While we are at it, in this painting by a Georgian artist who died in 1918, is the woman a nun? Or is it just traditional white Easter dress? Perhaps I should check with the Georgian WikiProject..
Thanks Candleabracadabra (talk) 04:07, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Okay, I have more questions. What do you make of this image and what does the caption say? Is it by the same artist? What about this one which precedes our image? And this one which follows it? The last seems quite a different style.. Do we know what story or book the illustrations are from? This guy has shoes quite like the Georgian above. They look rather pointy and uncomfortable to me. I hope he didn't have far to walk. That is all for now. Candleabracadabra (talk) 04:37, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
My new DYK about a famous socialist image notes that the better known American version is based on an older Russian one. Perhaps Russian sources could be used to expand this, or at the very list added as an external links? Even a Russian name of the original would be a nice addition. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:01, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
RIA Novosti article
The RIA Novosti article could use some knowledgeable, independent editors to look it over, if anyone knows anything about the news agency. After I pointed out that the website mentioned in the links at the bottom was still in operation and asked someone to clarify in the article, someone did indeed do so. Now, an IP editor has reverted the edits to a version from a month ago claiming that there was whitewashing going on in the edits after my comment. I know nothing whatsoever about RIA Novosti, but I've seen evidence of web brigades on other sites, so I'm hoping someone here will be able to provide some neutral input into the article. – RobinHood70 talk 01:22, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
Not only the article itself is somewhat obscure in that it's calling this school "obscure" multiple times without giving any references for this claim, but also the title looks very strange to me. I guess it should be REF Institution of Elite Training or something like REF (school). And if "REF" is the "international name", then the Russian name should at least be mentioned in the article. Thanks for checking. --YMS (talk) 17:01, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
Dear Russia experts: This abandoned AfC draft about a secondary school just needs some sources for verification. These would likely not be in English. Can someone here help to find these, since Wikipedia definitely wants articles about secondary schools? —Anne Delong (talk) 11:43, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Wanted GA reassessment
I've opened a community GA reassessment of Wanted. The article has had quite a fall from grace since its promotion in 2009, and I believe it needs to be demoted. Corvoe (speak to me) 15:54, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
List of heads of government of Russia
Feel free to review List of heads of government of Russia here. Regards.--Tomcat (7) 14:54, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
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Physics expert is needed
Hi, I wrote an article a week ago on a Russian physicist called Alexey Gorshkov, which is now proposed for deletion because it lacked verifiability. I added two Russian language sources, but I guess it needs more. Yandex although Russian and might have plethora of sources, gave me a whole bunch of Facebook and other crap and now I am stuck with some editors chanting delete, although his notability is well established, but is probably not very well seen. Can someone who is interested in physics and their biography, help me out on the above mentioned individual? Many thanks.--Mishae (talk) 23:54, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Living people on EN wiki who are dead on other wikis
The following individuals who are in the scope of this project are showing to be alive on the English wiki, but deceased on another language wiki:
- Aleksandr Chumakov: ru:Умершие в 2012 году
- Aleksei Zasukhin: ru:Умершие в 1996 году
- Aleksey Belyakov: fi:Kuolinvuosi puuttuu
- Igor Runov: it:Morti nel 2011 / ru:Умершие в 2011 году
- Mikhail Semyonov: ru:Умершие в 2006 году
- Nadezhda Khnykina-Dvalishvili: de:Gestorben 1994 / fi:Vuonna 1994 kuolleet / ja:1994年没 / pl:Zmarli w 1994 / ru:Умершие в 1994 году
- Nikolay Astapkovich: ru:Умершие в 2000 году
- Sergey Kolokolov: ru:Умершие в 2008 году
- Sergey Lizunov: ru:Умершие в 2003 году
- Tatiana Gorb: ru:Умершие в 2013 году
- Tatyana Veinberga: lv:2008. gadā mirušie / ru:Умершие в 2008 году
- Tofig Abbasguliyev: az:2011-ci ildə vəfat edənlər
- Valentina Kamenyok-Vinogradova: ru:Умершие в 2002 году
- Viktor Makhorin: ru:Персоналии, чья дата смерти не установлена
- Vladimiro Tarnawsky: ru:Персоналии, чья дата смерти не установлена
- Vladimir Sevryugin: ru:Персоналии, чья дата смерти не установлена
- Vyacheslav Kuznetsov (footballer): ru:Умершие в 2011 году
- Yevgeni Groshev: de:Gestorben 2013 / no:Dødsfall i 2013 / ru:Умершие в 2013 году / sl:Umrli leta 2013
- Yuri Vorontsov: ru:Умершие в 2002 году
Please help to find reliable sources to confirm if these individuals are alive or dead, or correct any mis-categorization on the relevant foreign-language article(s). Please see WP:LIVINGDEAD for more info and raise any issues on the talkpage. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 08:56, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Wikidata missing articles in English Wikipedia - Russia
As the link
http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-terminator/?list&lang=en&mode=tx&q=claim[17:159]
shows, at time of writing, several items related to this WikiProject, have an article in more than 10 Wikipedias, but not in the English Wikipedia. Creating stubs could at least help to better connect English Wikipedia to the data available in the other Wikipedias, in Wikimedia Commons and in WikiData. Tamawashi (talk) 23:26, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
The usage of Laika (dog) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Dogs#Requested_moves -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 05:50, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
Leaflet For Wikiproject Russia At Wikimania 2014
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AFC needs help with assessing a draft
Please help assess a draft about a Russian author Draft:Sergei Varshavsky that has been submitted to AFC. Most of the cited sources are in Russian so please check them to evaluate the notability of this writer. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:10, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- It seems to me that sources are reliable and some of them independent, and the article meets WP:N.--Ymblanter (talk) 04:37, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
Recategorization of Category:Cities and towns in Russia
@Paradoctor: has removed Category:Cities in Asia and Category:Cities in Europe from Category:Cities and towns in Russia, and then added his newly-created Category:Cities in Eurasia (which so far has no other content at present). Those most familiar with this subject should determine whether this is appropriate or useful. For context, please see this discussion initiated by the same editor, which is not about Russia per se, but rather high-level concepts of how to implement categories (which is what drove this particular recategorization). postdlf (talk) 19:41, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
- I don't believe it's generally a good idea to create categories which only contain one entry, but if more entries can be added to this newly created Category:Cities in Eurasia (perhaps both Category:Cities in Asia and Category:Cities in Europe should be there as well?), I don't see any problems as far as this WikiProject goes. It's just another possible way to categorize things. It's not much of an improvement, but it's not a harmful change either, and since the maintenance overhead due to this change is minimal, there's little reason to revert it. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); July 1, 2014; 20:03 (UTC)
- @Postdlf: Wrong venue. Participants of this project are of course welcome, but this is not a project-related issue. The only relevant fact about Russia is not disputed, namely that Russia's territory covers parts of both Europe and and Asia. Starting a thread there as of now: Category talk:Cities and towns in Russia#Continental categories. Paradoctor (talk) 21:02, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. I agree with Ezhiki here that it's not much of an improvement. So far, in none of the multiple discussions has a user agreed with Paradoctor's position on this, so I've reversed the changes for now. The previous set-up appears to me to reflect the past consensus, and I see no sign that it has changed. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:47, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Useful link
There is a huge biography on the Tolmachevy Sisters, who represented Russia at the Eurovision Song Contest 2014, here. Jonas Vinther (talk) 23:59, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Dear Russia experts: This BLP has many references, but they are not in English. Do these references contain significant reliable information about Mr. Tarn? If so, can someone who can read them place some of them as citations to verify the notability of this subject? —Anne Delong (talk) 16:10, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, some of them are reliable source, and besides the guy is the 2007 finalist of the Russian Booker Prize, which makes him notable anyway. The style is not appropriate.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:17, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking time to look this over, Ymblanter. I have rewritten some of it and removed the quotes, which seemed specially chosen rather than representative. Is it better now? There are quite a few reviews, but I can't place them as citations because the English description doesn't say which book is being reviewed in which publication. —Anne Delong (talk) 04:30, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
User 194.85.92.161
Hello. There is a user 194.85.92.161 (talk) who only posts to one page, Template talk:WikiProject Internet, and all of their posts are predominantly in Cyrillic script, with a few English words in Latin script. But certain words keep coming up, like "казино" (seven times), "онлайн" (five times) and "интернет" (three times), and these make me think that they are trying to promote an online internet casino. Other words that have come up three or more times are: "автоматы", "бесплатно" "играть", "игровые" but I don't know what those might mean. Of course, it might not be Russian: I don't know much Russian beyond Восток (East), Союз (Union) and Теннис (Tennis).
Please can anybody help me to find out what this person wants, and if it is not within Wikipedia's aims, discourage them from continuing with these posts. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:56, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's a typical spammer. I've blocked the IP for a month for spamming. Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); July 22, 2014; 16:32 (UTC)
- Thank you --Redrose64 (talk) 18:44, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Early Romanovs
What's going on with Pyotr I's grandfather, father, and son? We follow two different pairs of naming conventions with Michael I of Russia, Alexis of Russia, and Alexei Petrovich, Tsarevich of Russia. On one hand, we have an Alexis and an Alexei, while on the other hand we have Michael I (not Michael) and Alexis (not Alexis I). I'm about to make a three-way move proposal at Talk:Alexis of Russia and would appreciate your input. Nyttend (talk) 17:24, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- Yup, it's a mess. Every few years someone takes a jab at these and other royalty and never finishes the job, which is how we ended up with this hodgepodge. One move proposal (even a three-way one) isn't going to help much, I'm afraid. The problem needs to be looked at holistically, but, as with many other tasks, there is a dearth of volunteers and little agreement regarding which direction to go.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); July 23, 2014; 18:11 (UTC)
Grin and Chukovsky are kicked off Vital Articles list as "obscure Russian writers.
See Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Expanded#Writers for decision.
See Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Expanded#Alexander Grin and Korney Chukovsky for my opposition to the decision. Please interfere. -No.Altenmann >t 02:18, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Pleas add information about this country to this articles. --Kaiyr (talk) 03:52, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
Category Split could use some help!
cross-posted to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Russia and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Soviet Union.
Hello all, There were a few categories that came up at Categories for discussion. According to the desicon reached here, the following cats are supposed to be split:
- Category:Russian and Soviet military vehicles into Category:Military vehicles of Russia and Category:Military vehicles of the Soviet Union
- Category:Soviet and Russian air defence vehicles into Category:Air defence vehicles of Russia and Category:Air defence vehicles of the Soviet Union
- Category:Russian and Soviet Anti-aircraft weapons into Category:Anti-aircraft weapons of Russia and Category:Anti-aircraft weapons of the Soviet Union
This discussion closed a month ago, and as you can see, there is still some work to be done. I don't feel that I know enough to help with this split, so I'm reaching out. :) If anyone can spare a few moments to help get this done, it would be appreciated. Спасибо! Avicennasis @ 18:54, 1 Adar II 5771 / 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Kaliningrad Oblast
There is currently an argument at Talk:Kaliningrad Oblast#Foundation date as to when Kaliningrad Oblast is established. I postulate that the oblast was established in April 1946 and given its present name in July 1946. An anonymous editor interprets the April date as the date the territory of the oblast "joined the USSR" (whatever that means), and that the oblast was actually established in July. The source in the article does not support that point of view, and neither does the Charter of Kaliningrad Oblast (a link to which I posted on the talk page). Additional input would be appreciated, as the anon is obviously not going to stop with the reverts to restore his/her opinion.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 27, 2011; 14:43 (UTC)
- OK, never mind. Hopefully this is now resolved.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 27, 2011; 15:45 (UTC)
Romanization of Russian guidelines
A discussion is currently underway about the fate of the romanization of Russian guideline, which is one of the main guidelines in the scope of this WikiProject. The former WP:RUS guideline has been split into WP:ROMRUS (romanization) and WP:NCRUS (naming conventions), but there are several finer points on both pages that are still under debate. There are several threads open on both talk pages and additional input will be very welcome.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); July 1, 2011; 15:15 (UTC)
Romanization of Russian guideline, cont'd
A straw poll is currently being conducted at Wikipedia talk:Romanization of Russian#Closing straw poll regarding the future fate of the romanization of Russian guideline. The administrator handling the closure would like to determine whether the page needs further work, can be marked as WikiProject Style Advice right away, or should be sent for further consideration by the community to mark it as a full guideline. Your opinion on this matter would be greatly appreciated. There is also a comment section should you be inclined to elaborate on your selection. Thanks.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 9, 2011; 13:47 (UTC)
Dear Russia experts: Here's an old AfC submission which was declined as too essay-like and will soon be deleted as a stale draft. Can someone more familiar with this subject please comment on whether this is a notable subject? If so, the article can be shortened to include only facts. —Anne Delong (talk) 01:39, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Could someone take a look at this? I also think the entire Civil War article needs more (secondary) sources. 83.83.1.229 (talk) 08:01, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
Do we have an article on "Oleg Ivanovsky" [12]? Obviously it isn't under this title. -- 70.51.46.146 (talk) 06:42, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
- I've checked various alternative spellings, and it doesn't look like we do.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 19, 2014; 15:37 (UTC)
Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:48, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Expert attention
This is a notice about Category:Russia/Visual arts in Russia task force articles needing expert attention, which might be of interest to your WikiProject. It will take a while before the category is populated. Iceblock (talk) 21:10, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
City Municipality (Russian Empire)
City Municipality (Russian Empire) - title is not conforming with conventions (would be City municipalities of the Russian Empire) and no sources for the translation are given. Derianus (talk) 04:35, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
- To address the first concern, the parenthetical here is definitely unnecessary. I agree that either "city municipality in the Russian Empire" or "city municipalities of the Russian Empire" (providing that the current terminology choice is retained, of course) are much better choices.
As for the term choice, I'm not so sure about the translation either (although with an old obscure topic like this, finding sources in English can be a challenge). My 1916 pocket Russian-English dictionary translates the term as "governorship" or "district", both of which seem terribly vague to be useful as the article's title. My beloved Pushkarev failed me here as well—he does have a definition of what a gradonachalstvo is ("an administrative unit consisting of a city and its adjacent territory under the authority of gradonachalnik"), but no usable translation. Either way, the "municipality" part seems out of place, since it implies a certain degree of self-government, and gradonachalstvo was strictly a government administrative unit with an appointed head. I'd probably use "township" if faced with a necessity of translating the term in a text, but as a title it's probably not much of an improvement over "city municipality". What do others think? I'm particularly interested in the opinion of Aleksandr Grigoryev, who is the article's author. What were your criteria when selecting the title?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 29, 2014; 17:31 (UTC)
Territorial entities in Crimea
I created Krasnokamenka, Russia as a SIA page, imitating Leninsky, Russia. The entities in Crimea should all be reviewed. At first they should be unified in case, e.g. instead of "X municipality", it should be "X Municipality". That is what is used for such entities in Europe. Then one should review, if there are name clashes with entities from Russia outside Crimea, if transliteration from Russian would be applied. I am not asking for moving here, just pointing out that the Russian is one valid variant, especially given the fact that the local population is more Russian-speaking than Ukraine-speaking. Derianus (talk) 20:35, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
- You can use Nizinnoye as an example, which is a nearly identical case. The links (not just on these sets, but overall) typically use the Ukrainian spelling and WP:UKRAINE's naming conventions (such as they are), although on set indices they are piped with a Russian version (because, after all these sets are Russia-specific). There's also a discussion open at Talk:Nizinnoye with regards to neutrality issues, but judging by a lack of response, the current version seems to be satisfactory to all.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 31, 2014; 20:54 (UTC)
Is this disambiguation page necessary? As far as I can tell these two areas are the same thing Cannolis (talk) 12:14, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
- No, one is a district, another one is a locality.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:09, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Copyediting
Dear friends,
I made up 2 pages about Novgorod culture, they are my translation from Russian into English. There are some problems with sources I am trying to resolve now, but the major problem is about copyediting, as I am not a native speaker.
If somebody here is interested by the culture of medieval Novgorod, orthodox christianity or church architecture, and disposes the time, I would be happy if you will check my articles. --Sterndmitri (talk) 04:33, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sterndmitri/TheChurchOfNativity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterndmitri/Znamenie
Translation request of short article from Russian into English
Hello. Would someone who speaks Russian here please translate this article into English? I have tried Google Translate, but it is no good at all. There is already Gromiec, a small town in Poland, so a disambiguation page may be good (assuming there are notable people who carry this name). Please let me know if you are able to help on my talkpage, as I won't be adding this WP page to my watchlist. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 12:09, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Competition flagged
This should be seen as a challenge for those who are committed to this project - http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30058048 - satusuro 05:10, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
- Similarly - Boris_Yeltsin_Presidential_Library needs to be expanded by translation satusuro 05:16, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
What is the policy for using transliterations in titles? Shouldn't this be titled Our Radio? We don't call What Is to Be Done "Shto delat". Ryan Vesey 15:01, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
- We are using the names which are most commonly used in reliable English sources. If it's the transliteration that's most used, we should be using it as well, even if a translation is possible. There is no rule that tells us to use only transliterations or only translations; each case is regarded on its own merits.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); November 25, 2014; 15:46 (UTC)
Revolutionary Russia 1891 - 1991 by Orlando Figes
Wikimedia UK is delighted to announce that we have been given some copies of E-books from Pelican Books to give to Wikipedia editors, of which Revolutionary Russia 1891 - 1991 by Orlando Figes may be of particular interest to people in this WikiProject. More details including application details are at Wikipedia:Pelican Books. Sorry, but for commercial reasons this offer is not available for editors in the USA. Jonathan Cardy (WMUK) (talk) 11:45, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
Dear Russia experts: I have been reading this old draft article about a school. I am confused about the name of the school, though, which would be important if the draft is improved and moved to mainspace. —Anne Delong (talk) 14:29, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- The correct name would be Admiral Gorshkov Gymnasium, Admiral Gorshkov Gymnasium, Kolomna, or Gymnasium 9, Kolomna. My preference would be for the first on.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:08, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, Ymblanter. I've moved it to Draft:Admiral Gorshkov Gymnasium and rewritten the lead appropriately. It's awaiting some references.—Anne Delong (talk) 13:12, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
Project guidelines
As a result of the recent discussion on my talk page, I've created a draft to hold the WikiProject Russia-related guidelines at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Russia-related articles. Note that at this point the guidelines are meant to be descriptive, not prescriptive; i.e., they describe the current state of the matters and require making no changes to bring existing articles in compliance. Please feel free to add other descriptive guidelines from other areas to that page. Any prescriptive measures one would like to suggest should be suggested through the appropriate policy channels, of course.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 13, 2012; 15:10 (UTC)
Districts
I am planning to soon update {{Infobox Russian district}} to include two new fields (to hold the counts of the administrative divisions other than selsoviets) and to more clearly separate the sections on the administrative and municipal divisions from the counts of inhabited localities. If anyone has any other suggestions (or nagging concerns) about that template, now would be a good time to comment. Thanks in advance.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); March 8, 2013; 13:59 (UTC)
Urgent: Eurasian Economic Union
The Eurasian Economic Union will launch on January 1 2015 with 5 member states and candidates planning to the join in the future. We're looking for someone that can assess the article so that we can get it ranked as a good article before January 1. We're currently working to make it fit the featured article criteria. If someone could assess the article it would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers —Mentoroso (talk) 22:22, 18 December 2014 (UTC) (people that can improve the prose and comprehensiveness of the article are also very welcome)
This article needs cleanup. --George Ho (talk) 06:20, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
I found an old userspace draft attempting to create a table with all the Russian ambassadors. Can someone who can read Russian just verify some of the citations? It's worth making into a full article. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:05, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
- I haven't looked at every single citation, but I did check about a dozen of those in Russian, and they all support the statements being made. That said, the draft needs quite a bit of cleanup and updating (it seems to be a work in progress abandoned in 2011—some postings have changed since then), but other than that, there is nothing problematic with this list or its references, if that's your concern.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 26, 2014; 14:47 (UTC)
- It will be notoriously difficult to keep updated, since the author has colsen only to list current ambassadors.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:50, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
- True, but that same author was largely responsible for updating the lists of "Russian ambassadors to XXX country", which is where the historical information was included. See, for example, list of Ambassadors of Russia to the United States. What these pages need, of course, is someone to watch over them and update as needed, and the original author, unfortunately, can no longer do that for obvious reasons.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 26, 2014; 15:07 (UTC)
- It will be notoriously difficult to keep updated, since the author has colsen only to list current ambassadors.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:50, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
Russian Street Categories with 1 Article
Two categories, which are within the scope of this WikiProject, have been nominated for dual upmerging into Category:streets in Russia and the local city category. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:20, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
I have suggested that this article be renamed, and the background material split off into a general article on Russian memorial gates. For the two separate discussions, see Talk:Red Gate (These ate two separate discussions, neither of which depend on the result of the other, if participating in both discussions, please leave the appropriate opinion in the appropriate section) -- 65.94.40.137 (talk) 06:22, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
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Controversy at Belushya Guba
There seems to be a little controversy at Belushya Guba. This edit was reverted because, as stated here, "all Russian leads (ledes) of similar topic were like that". May I ask where the consensus for this is/was? Pyrotle…the "y" is silent, BTW. 23:13, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not sure there is a "controversy". What we have there seems to be a commonplace occurrence of an anonymous (and presumably new) editor making a bold edit and not understanding the reasons for them being reverted. From what I see, the anon's intent was quite good, but the way s/he went about fixing the problam wasn't entirely acceptable. There is nothing wrong with fixing duplication and non-sentences, but breaking established (and commonly accepted) format and especially removing sourced information solely for the sake of improving the flow isn't how it is supposed to be done. Hence the revert. I'll try to reconcile both sides later today or tomorrow and if any of the parties still have issues with the result, we can always discuss further improvements on that article's talk page. As for the question about the "consensus", I'm sure it can be unearthed with proper digging in this WikiProject's archives. Note, however, that nearly all articles about Russian populated places have indeed been using this format for many years without anyone really complaining, so, if nothing else, the fact that at least an implicit consensus exists should be fairly obvious.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 16, 2015; 17:20 (UTC)
- May I ask, and sorry for the incredible laziness here but, can you show me the consensus on where this is, as in a more specific spot than "in the WikiProject archives", if you can? Pyrotle…the "y" is silent, BTW. 23:36, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
- No, I can't; not without spending an obscene amount of time searching the said archives (I guess I, too, am lazy, not willing to waste time on proving something I don't even feel that strongly about). It may not even be in one place but in a series of conversations, anyway. In all, it's like asking to find one spot where consensus to, say, use infoboxes in articles about places was established :) The consistency of usage and lack of perpetual ongoing debates is already a demonstration of a consensus, even an implicit one, don't you think? At any rate, improvements need to be looked at holistically, and it seems to me that was not being done here, particularly not by the IP editor.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 17, 2015; 13:23 (UTC)
- May I ask, and sorry for the incredible laziness here but, can you show me the consensus on where this is, as in a more specific spot than "in the WikiProject archives", if you can? Pyrotle…the "y" is silent, BTW. 23:36, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
- Belatedly sticking my head in here. The IP editor made two changes: removing the redundant mention of its being the administrative centre (appears in 2 consecutive paragraphs) and creating a complete sentence for the demographic data. Further, their sentence on the demographic data replaced the (templated) citation of 2 censuses with what is strictly speaking an OR statement that the population had declined, and cited only the later census. I think these two changes should be considered separately. I suspect - although I haven't done the research to support it, partly because I don't have a list of small Russian administrative centres in my head to look at - that what the project has established as standard is the sentence fragment and templated citation of 2 censuses for the population statement. The IP editor's change to that was stylistically desirable, but I agree that changing all of the thousands of Russian settlement articles to eliminate that sentence fragment, even if no interpretation was added but rather the sentence read something like "The population in 2002 was X, in 2010 Y", followed by the two templated refs in the reverse of their current order, would be a tremendous amount of work and probably isn't worth the bother. Plus there is the OR issue. The article has been subsequently changed again and currently does draw the conclusion, but there is an argument that we should not draw any conclusions. On the other hand, the elimination of the second statement in consecutive paragraphs within the lede that it is the administrative centre seems to me to be an obvious improvement. Please can someone from this project check other relatively short articles on administrative centres and see whether that repetition is a general occurrence, too? Unlike the sentence fragment, I believe that should be fixed immediately wherever it occurs, but it is possible that it arose in this article because it originally didn't have a separate lede but was later expanded. Yngvadottir (talk) 15:26, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
- Changing all the articles to eliminate this fragment is indeed a lot of work, but it's obviously an improvement and is slowly being done (I myself am usually making this fix in articles I touch; although I don't make a point to go through all the articles to make just this particular change, nor do I believe using this fragment is that big of a deal, especially in stubs). If someone else joins in trying to help, that's obviously welcome. What's not welcome, as you rightfully noticed, is deleting pieces which are sourced and turning them into an unsourced OR statement. That's one of the reasons the IP's edit was reverted.
- On the repetition of the statement about the administrative center, the Belushya Guba article is a relatively well-developed one, one which several different people worked on. I don't believe this kind of repetition is present in many other articles. In stubs, the administrative center information is usually a part of the lede; it is also a part of the "administrative/municipal divisions" section when one is present (in which case the lede sentence is a summary of it; per WP:LEDE), and obviously included into the infobox. There is little reason to repeat this statement outside of these three locations, and I have no problem with removing the administrative center mention after the "main permanent settlement" part in this edit (even as I do not agree the rest of that edit is of any improvement).—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 18, 2015; 15:56 (UTC)
- So, people revert with the claim of a consensus for a particular style, but then they refuse to show where that consensus was ever reached. The notion that there would be a consensus not to write in proper sentences is weird enough, but then the very same person who claims this consensus exists says that removing the fragment is "obviously an improvement".
- As for the population numbers, I'm startled to see it claimed that reporting that the population changed between two census estimates could be original research. Routine calculations do not count as original research, and comparing two numbers is about as routine as it gets. In any case, when I edited Astrakhan to remove seemingly unnecessary population estimates from three censuses - it seems to me that one is plenty in the lead -- that got reverted with the claim that it was of vital importance to show whether the population had changed or remained stable.
- This kind of absurdly inconsistent nitpicking tells me that your problem is not with the edit but with the editor. I have observed time and time again that an uncontroversial simple improvement to an article by an anonymous editor often triggers aggressive reverting and hatred, while the very same edit made by someone with a username passes without comment.
- And one other thing, I see the suggestion being made that the mere fact of something being sourced means that it cannot be removed from the article. Being sourced is a necessary but not sufficient reason to include something in the encyclopaedia. You might as well say that people shouldn't remove correctly spelled material. 200.83.101.199 (talk) 00:10, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- Have you ever heard of WP:BRD? Your second edit was inconsistent with it, and I reverted it, since you failed to address the comments. The third revert by a registered user was way off the policies, but reverting them as well would amount to starting a full-scale edit-war, and I went to their talk page instead. This has nothing to do with you bieing an IP and them being an account.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:51, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- BRD is an essay, not a guideline and certainly not a policy. You failed to understand the edit I had made, falsely claiming that there was "nothing redundant here". I addressed that: "Saying twice that it's the administrative centre is, indeed, redundant. Read edits more carefully before reverting." And now you falsely claim that I didn't. This kind of low level dishonesty is typical of those who don't like IP edits. 200.83.101.199 (talk) 10:46, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- Your talk page has enough evidence that you plainly do not understand and do not want to understand Wikipedia policies. Your reply above shows that one more policy you do not care about is WP:NPA. With such understanding of policies, you should not be editing the English Wikipedia.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:56, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- BRD is an essay, not a guideline and certainly not a policy. You failed to understand the edit I had made, falsely claiming that there was "nothing redundant here". I addressed that: "Saying twice that it's the administrative centre is, indeed, redundant. Read edits more carefully before reverting." And now you falsely claim that I didn't. This kind of low level dishonesty is typical of those who don't like IP edits. 200.83.101.199 (talk) 10:46, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- Have you ever heard of WP:BRD? Your second edit was inconsistent with it, and I reverted it, since you failed to address the comments. The third revert by a registered user was way off the policies, but reverting them as well would amount to starting a full-scale edit-war, and I went to their talk page instead. This has nothing to do with you bieing an IP and them being an account.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:51, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
It took me most of my day, but I have massively improved the Amber Room article as it's of high importance of the project scale. I'm going to nominate it for GA-status before the end of the week. Regards, Jonas Vinther (speak to me!) 00:13, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for working on it.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:43, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
- My pleasure. Was quite interesting. :) Jonas Vinther (speak to me!) 20:26, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
A possible hoax?
Hey, I was wondering if one of you could check to see if there is anything out there for a person by the name of Yanuc Salkovski. I can't find anything out there for the guy and it's possible that it's a hoax, especially since I can't find anything for his club. The article has the club's name in Russian and a search brings up nothing in Russian language sources. I figure that before we officially deem it a hoax that we should get one of you guys to check for sources just to make sure that there's nothing out there. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 05:03, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
- Taken care of, thanks for letting us know.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:15, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
RE: Amber Room
The article is very close to pass the GA-review, but the reviewer has requested the translation of this Russian source to improve the comprehensiveness of the article. I would highly appreciate if someone who can read Russian would translate this so the article can pass for GA-status. Regards, Jonas Vinther (speak to me!) 16:43, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
- This is just too much. I can translate a paragraph confirming some particular point but not the whole thing.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:49, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
- Well, maybe someone else from the project who can read Russian fluently can translate the whole thing? Jonas Vinther (speak to me!) 16:57, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
- It's not so much about reading Russian fluently as it is about the return on investment. The thing is indeed too long. If it is used to support specific points, it would be much more productive to run it through machine translation and then to pinpoint the specific, most helpful parts, which the participants of this project will then be more than happy to translate properly. Translating a long article only to have a few pieces of it used is rather wasteful, and the source isn't even that good to invest so much time into it.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 24, 2015; 17:16 (UTC)
- The article just passed the GA-review. Excellent job people. Next stop is peer review. :) Jonas Vinther • (speak to me!) 20:53, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
- It's not so much about reading Russian fluently as it is about the return on investment. The thing is indeed too long. If it is used to support specific points, it would be much more productive to run it through machine translation and then to pinpoint the specific, most helpful parts, which the participants of this project will then be more than happy to translate properly. Translating a long article only to have a few pieces of it used is rather wasteful, and the source isn't even that good to invest so much time into it.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 24, 2015; 17:16 (UTC)
- Well, maybe someone else from the project who can read Russian fluently can translate the whole thing? Jonas Vinther (speak to me!) 16:57, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Version of English
As a general rule, which version of English should we use on articles regarding Russia? --Mr. Guye (talk) 23:54, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
- According to Wikipedia:ENGVAR, Wikipedia doesn't prefer one variation over another except in articles which are particularly tied to an English-speaking country. From my understanding, this means that in most cases, whichever version of English was written when the article was first created (or first had variation-specific language added to it) should be continued for consistency. I can imagine a few exceptions; for example, if the article was about the Russian Embassy in Australia, perhaps Australian English would be appropriate. —Anne Delong (talk) 01:00, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Slave labor and one thousand deaths in Norway, related to a national railway with a leadership that was not pushed out of office during the war
Two individuals are removing all mention of World War Two in the article about the Norwegian State Railways and its responsibility in the death of over 1000 Soviet slaves, and the forced labor of 12 000 surviving Soviet prisoners. If someone has new text in English, or citations from Russian language sources, then that would be interesting to see. (Local media has been more interested in the Yugoslav prisoners; they had a higher death rate than Soviet prisoners, and they were the victims of the Beisfjord massacre, Karasjok massacre, and the Yugoslavs had guards from the SS, for nearly a year.) Furthermore, to my knowledge, in 2015 is the first time that the State Railway (a former state company, that now is a type of private company, aksjeselskap, where the state owns all the stocks) has made any admission about wrongdoing towards Soviet prisoners: "The transportation of Jews that were to be deported and the use of prisoners of war on the Nordland Line is a dark chapter of NSB's history ", according to kommunikasjonssjef Åge-Christoffer Lundeby in NSB in 2015. A news article which tells about this, is titled, The State Railways said yes to the use of slaves - These Russian prisoners were forced to build the Nordland Line. Thereafter they were supposed to be forgotten. --Creambreek (talk) 16:53, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Vaenga
The town of Vaenga was apparently renamed Severomorsk in 1951, but was an important naval and air base in World War II and No. 151 Wing RAF operated from there in 1941 during Operation Benedict. However, our page redirects to Elena Vaenga. Is she really known as "Vaenga" or can I change the redirect to the town? Alansplodge (talk) 00:55, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
- She is indeed known as Vaenga (btw we usually use WP:RUS in the absence of reliable sources so that a possible spelling for the town would be Vayenga). I think a DAB page might be the best solution.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:37, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. The "Vaenga" spelling is the one used in several British texts about WWII, although "Vayenga" is the one used in our Severomorsk article. I'll have a go at a disambiguation page this evening. Alansplodge (talk) 14:16, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
- Y, you failed to notice that Elena is from Severomorsk. So whatever spelling for Vaenga, they should be both the same. -M.Altenmann >t 16:54, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
- Not necessarily, I am not sure under what name she is primarily known in English. I do not have any strong opinions here, I am fine with any spelling.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:01, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
- Redirect now changed to disambiguation. Thank you both. Alansplodge (talk) 20:33, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
- Actually, per wikipedia rules, we do not disambiguate only two entries. the correct way is what I did. Therefore I am revertiung the Vaenga page. By the way, you did not follow english wikipedia style guideline for disambig pages. -M.Altenmann >t 03:29, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, but you didn't amend the 8 military history articles that link to the "Vaenga" page. I'll have a go at it later on. Alansplodge (talk) 09:43, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- Now done! Alansplodge (talk) 16:08, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- Actually your remark about 8 mil articles reminded me that I was being lazy and did not do what you are supposed to do when considering disambiguation: you must search wikipedia for other usages of the term. It never occurred to me that such a rare term will be more. But it did :-), so a disambig page it is. -M.Altenmann >t 16:55, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- Which I should have known since I created the page on the river three years ago, but I totally forgot. Thanks both of you.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:57, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- Actually your remark about 8 mil articles reminded me that I was being lazy and did not do what you are supposed to do when considering disambiguation: you must search wikipedia for other usages of the term. It never occurred to me that such a rare term will be more. But it did :-), so a disambig page it is. -M.Altenmann >t 16:55, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- Now done! Alansplodge (talk) 16:08, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, but you didn't amend the 8 military history articles that link to the "Vaenga" page. I'll have a go at it later on. Alansplodge (talk) 09:43, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- Actually, per wikipedia rules, we do not disambiguate only two entries. the correct way is what I did. Therefore I am revertiung the Vaenga page. By the way, you did not follow english wikipedia style guideline for disambig pages. -M.Altenmann >t 03:29, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- Redirect now changed to disambiguation. Thank you both. Alansplodge (talk) 20:33, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
- Not necessarily, I am not sure under what name she is primarily known in English. I do not have any strong opinions here, I am fine with any spelling.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:01, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
In tracking disambig meanings, I came across a huge historical article about Severomorsk. Whoever is interested, has a chance to expand Severomorsk page immensely (and put it at WP:DYK). -M.Altenmann >t 17:33, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks everyone! :-) Alansplodge (talk) 10:27, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Identifying a historical figure?
I've been ransacking PD images from the Library of Congress's Chronicling America project, and doing my best to identify them. I'm drawing a blank so far on this one; any ideas? (Note that the American newspapers in 1904 didn't always transliterate Cyrillic very competently, so this may not be the man's actual name.) DS (talk) 23:11, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- ru:Махотин, Николай Антонович. -M.Altenmann >t 23:41, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- He was indded in charge of all mil scools, but he died in 1903. His portrait here reasonably matches the ru-wikipedia article, but now you know better than to believe English tabloids of last century :-). -M.Altenmann >t 23:49, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Yuri of Moscow
At Daniel of Moscow and Ivan I of Moscow we have multiple links to Yuri of Moscow with various piped linknames that identify at least three different people.
See Talk:Daniel of Moscow#Yuri I and Yuri; Talk:Ivan I of Moscow#Yuri I or III?.
I suppose the problem arises elsewhere and it will be fruitful to examine Pages that link to "Yury of Moscow".
Biggest suppliers of the Russian state
Go to http://clearspending.ru and click "Major suppliers": You get a list of the companies that have the biggest contracts with the state.
Even the biggest (Тихоокеанская мостостроительная компания, 248.9 billion ruble) does not seem to have an article here.
Cheers! Syced (talk) 14:26, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Category names in Commons
I worked on bringing the category names in Commons closer to the English Wikipedia names.
Some categories used a plain name, even if it was shared with other entities. Thanks to User:Ezhiki for his SIA pages and all the work.
What was changed:
- Districts/Raions
- Nouns were changed to adjective, e.g. commons:Category:Istrinsky District contained Category:Alekseevka (Istra district) not it is Category:Alekseevka (Istrinsky District)
- rayon was changed to district
- Sometimes two categories for the same thing existed next to each other, "X district" next to "X District", standardization made that pretty obvious
- Some categories for a given X District had subcategories that were named "Buildings of X District" and "Lakes in X rayon". They have been standardized to the English Wikipedia language name, X District.
- A bot is working on P373 : Special:Contributions/Hoo Bot.
Edits that have been done for the Russian, Ukrainian, Belorusian districts where in line with the naming conventions in the English Wikipedia.
Goal was better linking between Commons, Wikidata, English Wikipedia and other projects.
A bot is working on P373 : commons:Special:Contributions/Hoo Bot.
Still, there might be mass reversion via the AN
Is this university the same?
Somebody at Talk:Birobidzhan Jewish National University says the university was renamed ПГУ им. Шолом-Алейхема i.e. Sholem Aleichem . Is this ru:Приамурский государственный университет имени Шолом-Алейхема? These two articles are not wikilinked yet WhisperToMe (talk) 04:59, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, that seems to be the same university. I will interlink them.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:08, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you :) WhisperToMe (talk) 06:18, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Nomination for merging of Template:Infobox Russian inhabited locality
Template:Infobox Russian inhabited locality has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox settlement. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Sovereign/Sentinel 08:55, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Sources?
Hey, I was wondering if any of you would be willing/able to check to see if there are any sources for this book series, Play to Live. I'd come across this via a friend and some of the marketing info says that it was up for a major award in Russia (as it was originally published in Russian and later translated into English), the Start Award. I admit that I'm slightly skeptical of the claims of "major award" in any author bio because of the tendency for self-promotion, but I figured that it wouldn't hurt to ask if there was coverage in Russian. I'm not really expecting anything, but I'd like to make sure just for curiosity's sake. To the best of my knowledge all the titles should be the same. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 08:39, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
- The guy is spelled Дмитрий Рус in Russian, and I was able to find exactly zero reliable sources in Russian describing him or his books. I find either fan sites or online libraries.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:18, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
- I figured that this would be the case, but I figured it'd be worth a look just to know for sure. Thanks for checking! Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 09:16, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
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How about some photos of lion prides or proud members of Russian military? I mean, it is bad idea to usurp a yet another word ("gay", now "pride"). -M.Altenmann >t 06:21, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
Please review. --TIAYN (talk) 22:18, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Crimean crisis listed at Requested moves
An editor has requested for Crimean crisis to be moved to another page. Since you had some involvement with Crimean crisis, you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so). -- 67.70.32.20 (talk) 04:56, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
"Crimean crisis"
A WP:BRD discussion is open on the topic of Crimean crisis, the discussion has been blanked before [13] so you may have to rollback a future blanking to participate -- 67.70.32.20 (talk) 07:05, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Just go to WP:ANI, this user only understands blocks.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:40, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
Varenyky proposed merger
See Pierogi#Proposed_merger for a discussion on merging Varenyky into the Pierogi article. μηδείς (talk) 20:13, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Jazz guitarist Aleksey Kuznetsov
Wikipedia has articles on the skier and politician of this name, but no article on the Russian jazz guitarist who has a considerable discography. Just thought I would put in a plug to create an article on him. Best.4meter4 (talk) 01:08, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
"Russian Winter"
An RFC has been opened on the title of the article Russian Winter, for the discussion, see talk:Russian Winter -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 08:20, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Nominated Central Committee elected by the 16th Congress of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) for WP:FL, please review
Perhaps this is salvagable?
Jovan Popovich-Horvat/'Ivan Samoylovich Khorvat: [14]? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:01, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
Hello Russia experts. This draft about software has quite a few hits on Google, but I can't find software reviews in English. Is this a notable company? The draft will soon be deleted as stale unless someone takes an interest in it.—Anne Delong (talk) 16:35, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- I made a search and was not able to find any reliable sources about the company.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:13, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, [User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]]. It's gone now. —Anne Delong (talk) 02:55, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
RfC in Talk:Mat (Russian profanity)
Please comment. -M.Altenmann >t 15:32, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
AfC submission
Could anyone be so kind and review sources available at Draft:Therr Maitz? Appreciated! FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 23:10, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- What sources? Declined. - üser:Altenmann >t 06:30, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Lobachevskian geometry or just hyperbolic geometry?
In the lead of the page on hyperbolic geometry in the part that explains the name I wrote:
- In Russia it is commonly named Lobachevskian geometry after one of its discoverers the Russian geometer Nikolai Lobachevsky.
But I realised the books I could refer to are quite old , now my question: is my comment (still) correct or is it better to remove this bit? WillemienH (talk) 21:14, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
- In Russia, it is still almost exclusively referred to as the Lobachevskian geometry--Ymblanter (talk) 07:18, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking WillemienH (talk) 08:38, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
"Russian Winter"
"Russian Winter" the article about the effect of winter in Russia on warfare, is up for renaming, see talk:Russian Winter -- 67.70.32.20 (talk) 06:47, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Suggestion rename it to general winter, General Winter, General Frost, or General Snow, shows directly the warfare connection WillemienH (talk) 10:04, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
I stubbed this bio, it should probably be renamed to his Russian name? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:19, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- He was a Pole, why to rename?--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 08:33, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
Russian stress marks
Is there a clear guidance on whether stress marks should or should not be added to names in Russian in Wikipedia articles? If so, please could you point me to where it says it? If not, a decision should be made. It is very inconsistent at the moment, which makes it look messy. For example:
with:
- Влади́мир Влади́мирович Пу́тин at Vladimir Putin,
- Волгогра́д at Volgograd
- Сою́з Сове́тских Социалисти́ческих Респу́блик at Soviet Union
- Мари́я Ю́рьевна Шара́пова at Maria Sharapova
without:
- Россия at Russia
- Санкт-Петербург at Saint Petersburg
- Москва at Moscow
- Александр Юрьевич Зубков at Alexandr Zubkov
There are arguments for and against, of course. Essentially, for people who already have some familiarity with Russian, they are useful (and probably more convenient than the IPA transcription, even where this is given), but for other people they are potentially misleading.
I am not suggesting diverting lots of time and effort to standardise articles, but clear guidance ought to be created and put somewhere that people looking for it will easily find it, and then hopefully standardisation will happen with time. I found Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Cyrillic), which suggests including them, but the page is labelled as just being no more than a proposal, and the associated talk page shows little evidence of current discussion.
Thank you,
--Money money tickle parsnip (talk) 08:19, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
P.S. In any case, it is useful to have stress information, so it should be shown in the IPA regardless. Somebody could even write a computer program that automatically deduces and adds an IPA transcription (where not already shown) in cases where somebody has added the stress marks, and then either deletes or retains the stress marks depending on the agreed style guide... It would need careful testing of course before letting it wreak havoc!
- This has been discussed on multiple occasions, with the general consensus being that the stress marks should be added where they are missing (if you search this WikiProject archives, you should be able to find at least a couple such discussions). If you see any instances where stress is missing, feel free to add the marks. At some point, stress marks were removed from articles where IPA was provided, but that practice, too, was discussed and found not to be helpful. Incidentally, there is no formal guideline on how to handle the stress marks; perhaps one would be beneficial. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); August 26, 2015; 12:10 (UTC)
Thank you. Yes, I do believe that if consensus is well established then it would be good for it to be documented somewhere and made easy to find, although I do not know enough about where things live to do any more than request here that the regulars do it. Otherwise you are destined to have the same question asked again in future! (By the way, my Russian isn't great, so I'd only add stress marks myself for very familiar names or where someone else has already added the IPA. Росси́я would be a good start, mind!) --Money money tickle parsnip (talk) 21:30, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
Proposal to merge Karachays and Balkars to Karachay-Balkars
There is an open proposal to merge Karachays and Balkars to Karachay-Balkars. Please join in the discussion at Talk:Karachay-Balkars. Thanks, Wbm1058 (talk) 16:59, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
I moved it from POV title Russian colonialism (and fixed the lede a bit). Please take a look at this confused essay. In particular, please fix the common Western confusion of Russia and the Soviet Union. - üser:Altenmann >t 01:32, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. I do not have time right now, but I added it at least to my watchlist.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:14, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ice hockey (film), (original title: Khokkeisty, Russian:"Хоккеисты), and help improve the article through books and reviews. Thanks. Schmidt, Michael Q. 14:56, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
AfD
Any comments about Boris Rimlyanin? Thanks, FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 22:11, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
This article needs restructure... fast! It has no sections. Also, heavy copy editing is needed. --George Ho (talk) 05:33, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Mannerheim
What should be the article title for Russian General and Finnish Marshal Mannerheim? Please give your view at Talk:Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim#Requested move 24 October 2015. Snowsuit Wearer (talk|contribs) 13:10, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
Всем здравствуйте! Можете дополнить статью про российский канал?--Станислав Савченко (talk) 15:36, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Ruthenian / Russian medieval princes
Please join this category discussion: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_November_6#Princes_in_Rus.27. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:59, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Can anyone provide more info for this image copyright status?
File:Stanislav Poplavsky.PNG. I cannot find it even linked from [15] where the host root category is, and nothing from tineye/google images. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Mikhail Dudin "Посейте семя"
Посейте семя is listed as section 6 of Requiem (Weinberg) 1965 Youtube text by Mikhail Dudin, but is not listed http://poetrylibrary.ru/stixiya/menu-date-52.html nor does the "Посейте семя" show up on a server seach. Any idea of alternative sources? In ictu oculi (talk) 22:48, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
- Well, it is right here, in the article Requiem (Weinberg): [16] (Progrfam notes). - üser:Altenmann >t 00:50, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
- User:Altenmann, thanks, yes I added that, unfortunately the source only mentions the poem, does not give actual text. Maybe it is a poem that is not notable outside this work, or exists in a different name on poetrylibrary.ru In ictu oculi (talk) 08:48, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Moscow Symphony Orchestra
Please see here. Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:11, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
How to pronounce Фагот ?
How is Фагот pronounced? Does it sound the same as "fagot" in English? This is for the ATGM 9K111 Fagot. Thanks. -- GreenC 23:55, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
- fah-GOT (accented 2nd syllable. - üser:Altenmann >t 05:29, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi everyone. These guidelines still have a "proposed" sticker on the head, but they appear to be in use across all the Cyrillic languages:
The following is a proposed Wikipedia policy, guideline, or process. The proposal may still be in development, under discussion, or in the process of gathering consensus for adoption. |
Is there any debate about any of the language sections? Does it reflect correctly and completely this WikiProject? If there's a language where there isn't agreement, then shouldn't an "under discussion" sticker be on the individual language and we can work to remove the the "proposal" header above all of them? In ictu oculi (talk) 08:48, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- I think Russian is fine (pinging @Ezhiki:for safety). For Belarusian, there is no consensus what should be used, and all attempts to establish consensus were blocked by Belarusian users who can not even agree between themselves and opened two different Wikipedias in the same language.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:14, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- WP:CYR is marked as proposed because there really was no formal RfC or anything to make it official. It is simply a collection of practices used for various languages with Cyrillic alphabets; some of those practices are formalized, some are not, and some might even be questionable. The part that covers Russian (WP:RUS) was demoted to an essay a few years ago because there were all sorts of disagreements about it trying to cover more ground than a guideline of this nature should cover. The actual romanization part (what now is at WP:RUS) was not really in dispute, however, so I think another simple RfC to formalize it and reinstate as a guideline should work just fine (especially considering that it is being followed in practice in the majority of articles anyway). The disputed part had been split into WP:NCRUS; I personally think most of it is still good guidance that should be restored, but others might disagree. Most of the original participants have since fled Wikipedia, so perhaps this is something worth revisiting with a more level attitude.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 1, 2015; 16:28 (UTC)
- i noticed ukrainians diverge from russians in translit, so the common ground IMO is ony for triivial cases. - üser:Altenmann >t 05:34, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Notice to participants at this page about adminship
Many participants here create a lot of content, have to evaluate whether or not a subject is notable, decide if content complies with BLP policy, and much more. Well, these are just some of the considerations at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship.
So, please consider taking a look at and watchlisting this page:
You could be very helpful in evaluating potential candidates, and maybe even finding out if you would be a suitable RfA candidate.
Many thanks and best wishes,
AfC submission
See Draft:Russians in Tajikistan. What do you reckon? Thanks, FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 22:02, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
- The last couple of sentences are unsourced and are best cut off, the rest can exist as a stub. There are plenty of sources in Russian on the issue.--Ymblanter (talk) 22:19, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
Need a Russian fluent editor
Hi! Can anyone help me with an editor? The editor in question is ZOKIDIN, who I'm not going to ping to this just yet because I'm unsure of what's going on. He signed up with an account a few months back and has mostly only made minor edits here and there, predominantly asking for help. In one edit and this one he posted in Russian, leading me to think that he's likely a native Russian speaker.
Now here's what's going on: recently he created a sockpuppet investigation here, where he listed himself and several other accounts, some of which are clearly marked as an alternative account. I can't tell if he's just trying to report the other user, if this is just general mischief, or if he's just trying to state that these are alternate accounts. He doesn't seem to be very fluent in English given the brevity of his edits, so he may need someone to point him to the Russian language Wikipedia. I'm not sure how much he can really do here if the language barrier is as high as I think it may be. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 07:23, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
- Taken care of.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
Petrozavodsk State University
Dear editors, you are welcome to improve the translation of the section Petrozavodsk State University#PetrSU in 1970-1985 from Russian Wikipedia prepared by my student about our university. See more information at Talk:Petrozavodsk State University. Thank you! -- Andrew Krizhanovsky (talk) 10:56, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
List of stations along the Trans-Siberian Railway
List of stations along the Trans-Siberian Railway This page currently consists of only a navbox, typically articles shouldn't be written like this. Perhaps someone here wants to expand the article?--Prisencolin (talk) 23:14, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
- A good AfD candidate. There is no single line of the Transsiberian, and I am afraid any selection would be OR.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:54, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
Institute of Contemporary Art, Moscow
I've requested at RA an article on the Institute of Contemporary Art, Moscow but I thought I'd ask here as well - it feels like it should be notable but that the good sources are all in Russian, there's not much in English. Website is here - anyone fancy the challenge? Le Deluge (talk) 13:12, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Comments welcome: is there more then one notable award in Russia? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:44, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Help finding coverage and cleaning an article?
I need some help with the article for Jérémie Pauzié. Long story short, this was created by a paid editor and it's overly saturated with extremely promotional tones and potentially unusable sources. Examples of what they tried to use to establish the claims and notability include things like Christie auctions and places that appear to be WP:SPS like this one.
I do think that this person is notable, given that the article claims that he helped make the Imperial Crown, but this needs a lot of cleanup. I figured I'd ask here since he seems to be most well known for his work in Russia than anything else and as such, coverage is likely to not be in English. Also, could someone check to see if any of his non-crown work is notable? I think that at the very least he'd warrant a mention somewhere, but I am slightly concerned that he may only really be known for the crown and if so, how much he impacted its creation.
The thing to be cautious of with the article is that the paid editor has created some incredibly promotional articles and used sources to back up assertions where the source doesn't actually back up the claim. For example, a source was used to assert that Pauzie was a huge influence on several major designers, yet the source itself didn't actually state any of that. What this means is that any of the claims in the article need to be taken with a grain of salt unless you can find a source that states otherwise, since the editor has made some fairly problematic edits - in another article he tried basing some major notability on primary sources, for example.
I'm going to start cleaning the article, but I need help finding sourcing and fleshing the article back out with usable sourcing. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 04:59, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
- There are tons of reliable coverage in Russian, I will add some sources later today.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:37, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you! I figured that there might be, so I'm glad that I posted here! You're pretty awesome, YMblanter! Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 04:35, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Russian mentor needed
There's an interesting new editor, Грищук ЮН, who very prolifically writes articles, adding rich material, but whose lack of understanding of Wikipedia and English is rubbing some people the wrong way. (See WP:HD#Well meaning, but I don't know where to start .....) Maybe someone could help him. (And I don't mean "помочь"!) — Sebastian 23:52, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Does this Russian international school have senior high school equivalent classes?
http://franceschool.narod.ru/ has the name "СПЕЦИАЛИЗИРОВАННОЕ СТРУКТУРНОЕ ОБРАЗОВАТЕЛЬНОЕ ПОДРАЗДЕЛЕНИЕ - СРЕДНЯЯ ОБЩЕОБРАЗОВАТЕЛЬНАЯ ШКОЛА С УГЛУБЛЕННЫМ ИЗУЧЕНИЕМ ИНОСТРАННОГО ЯЗЫКА ПРИ ПОСОЛЬСТВЕ РОССИИ ВО ФРАНЦИИ " - Google Translate shows me "secondary school". Would someone like to confirm whether it has classes of ages 14-15 through 18? If so I will make a stub.
Thank you! WhisperToMe (talk) 15:58, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
- According to this information, they are serving kids of all ages, from grade 1 to 11. And yes, "secondary school" would be an appropriate translation of "средняя общеобразовательная школа".—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); March 24, 2016; 16:37 (UTC)
- Thank you so much! I went ahead and started Russian Embassy School in Paris. I began linking it from the English and French Wikipedias WhisperToMe (talk) 17:38, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
Russian schools in Bangkok and Vientiane
In Google Translate I notice that http://web.archive.org/web/20140107105703/http://schoolthailand.ucoz.ru/ said that the Russian school in Bangkok has some kind of relationship with the one in Vientiane, Laos.
Does the Laos school have high school. To children who graduate from year 9 in the Bangkok school go to Vientiane? Is the Thailand school categorized as a "primary" school?
Website for the Laos school http://web.archive.org/web/20141228200417/http://laosshool.mcdir.ru/ WhisperToMe (talk) 22:26, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
BTW does the website of the Russian Embassy School in London say when it was first started? WhisperToMe (talk) 22:32, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
- The school on London started in 1954. In Russian system, there is no separation to primary and high school, so, though they do not say this explicitly, I assume they have all classes.--Ymblanter (talk) 04:03, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
- Some the Russian embassy schools do have the word "primary" in their Russian names...for example the Russian school in Canberra, Australia is only a primary school. However if it has "secondary" in the name then it would be a full school. WhisperToMe (talk) 05:03, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Merge, perhaps?
Please take a look a newly created "Russian special operations forces". I wondering if there is really a need for this page since there is already Spetsnaz, (among others), yet there no mention of Spetsnaz on this new page. Perhaps take what's useful from RSOF and merge it to Spetsnaz? - theWOLFchild 16:37, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- These are different subjects; ruwiki has corresponding very different articles: ru:Подразделения специального назначения Российской Федерации, ru:Силы специальных операций Российской Федерации. - üser:Altenmann >t 07:42, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
Dispute over English Translation of Lyrics on the Wikipedia page for the Anthem of Kalmykia
On April the 1st, I edited the English translation of the Kalmyk anthem because the previous translation was inaccurate in many places and did not completely match the Kalmyk. The translation I added was made a few years ago by myself with the aid of a Buryat friend who understands Kalmyk (I myself am conversational in Kalmyk).
I decided to edit the page when I noticed a Youtube video of the Kalmyk anthem (by the user known as "NeuPommern") that showed the inaccurate translation taken from Wikipedia. I inquired as to where the uploader of the video found such translations and decided to edit the page with the aforementioned more accurate version. Despite this, IP address 58.26.24.223 has repeatedly taken down my translation and edited the page to either show the inaccurate version that was previously there (as he/she did on April 1st and April 6th) or removed nearly all the content from the page (as he/she did on April 4th).
I have my suspicions regarding who the perpetrator is and I know for sure that it is someone I encountered on the Youtube video of the Kalmyk anthem that I mentioned (I will not reveal the account name of who I suspect it to be unless the admin(s) ask me to do so). This is because I commented on the same Youtube video of the Kalmyk anthem after I edited the page for the Kalmyk anthem declaring that I had changed the translation (although I did so in a more casual manner). 20 minutes after I made my comment, I saw that my edit was taken down (on the edit history of the page, this is listed as 14:48, 1 April 2016). My comment was a reply to another Youtuber who cited the Kalmyk anthem's Wikipedia page as the source of the inaccurate translation. After I reinserted my edit (08:16, 4 April 2016, according to the edit history) I questioned a couple of Youtubers whom I suspected were behind this edit, including the one whom I had replied to. The one whose comment I had replied to merely responded with "..." to my question (which was "Hey were you the one who undid my edit on the Wikipedia article for the Kalmyk anthem? Just curious because someone just undid mine 20 minutes after I put in a better translation and it happened the day I replied to your reply on my comment on NeuPommern's video that I changed it."). This reply was on April 4th, the same day IP address 58.26.24.223 decided to retaliate by wiping nearly the entirety of the article (12:24, 4 April 2016) and for this reason I believe that Youtuber is the culprit. A few hours later I restored the content (15:08, 4 April 2016) but it was taken down once more by the same IP address, two days later (05:54, 6 April 2016), forcing me to restore the content once more (10:09, 6 April 2016).
All of these changes were unprovoked and done without explanation. I added an explanation to my initial edit when I added my version of the translation and also provided explanations when I edited the page with the purpose of restoring my translation. Despite this, IP address 58.26.24.223 continues his/her actions, without providing any reasons. Consequently, I believe this is an act of intentional provocation. I therefore request admin/moderator intervention on this issue.
This is the IP address known as 122.132.199.88 (I'm adding this just in case my signature doesn't show, as this is my first time writing on a talk page on Wikipedia). I will frequently check this page for replies.
EDIT: I removed the term "harassment" per the advice of Donner60 (talk · contribs). I will also add a link to my Talk page, where this situation has been elaborated on by myself and the aforementioned user: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:122.132.199.88
Crimea annexation RFC
I've opened an RFC on Talk: Annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation on the question
"Should the information about opinion polls, currently in the subsection Crimean public opinion be moved into the subsection Crimean status referendum?"
As this page is of interest to Wikiproject Russia, I thought I'd put a notice here. Kalidasa 777 (talk) 05:23, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Zhasminka
Hi editors!
I have proposed the following page for creation Draft:Zhasminka, and got denied. I have messaged the page creation help desk, please see below:
"Hi editors! I have submitted this article for review and got declined due to it not being notable.
Please see the following article that has been posted and approved: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandra_(Esposende)
It is similar in nature, or am I off on that?
It is a small populated municipality or division, with population smaller than the municipality I am describing. It has two sources, one of which is in Portuguese.
I could not find any English sources for my article, however, please also see the following page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saratov#cite_note-2010Census-10. It has resources that are in Russian. How come those are valid?
There are third party articles that I listed as resources in my entry. One of which is a local media coverage article. How come it is not considered valid?
Please let me know how I can make this article happen.
Thank you for your help and input.
MilenaGlebova1989 (talk) 12:49, 10 April 2016 (UTC)"
I got the following response:
"Hi MilenaGlebova1989 as a subdivision of a city it may be difficult to establish that it has sufficient notability to sustain a separate article. I think you could consider adding the information to the Saratov article. The topic specialists at WP:WikiProject Russia might have more specific advice. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:40, 10 April 2016 (UTC)"
I welcome any suggestions and guidance.
Please let me know what I can do.
Thank you in advance. MilenaGlebova1989 (talk) 10:30, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- Administrative divisions and inhabited localities are inherently notable—even when sources are not easily found, it is assumed they exist, so the articles on those entities are allowed to stay as long as the entity's existence can be proven. The Gandra article, for example, exists by this reasoning, since the entity is a civil parish (a municipality). The problem with Zhasminny, however, is that it is neither a standalone inhabited locality (as it is not listed in Saratov Oblast's registries), nor an administrative division (ditto). It seems to be a microdistrict, and those would not normally be considered inherently notable. The sources you used are sufficient to determine its existence and, to some extent, status, but there is still a question of establishing notability. (To answer your other question, having sources only in Russian is not a problem at all, as long as the sources themselves are reliable). Hope this helps.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 12, 2016; 16:30 (UTC)
Category:Fictional Okhrana agents has been nominated for discussion
Category:Fictional Okhrana agents, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 11:06, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Hello can you help with Let's Get Married (TV series)
Hello can you help with Let's Get Married (TV series). Moscowamerican (talk) 23:13, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Peer review/Let's Get Married (TV series)/archive1 Moscowamerican (talk) 05:18, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
Soviet merchant ships
There is a discussion at WT:SHIPS#Soviet merchant ship histories which members of this WikiProject may wish to participate in. Mjroots (talk) 08:00, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Please help me to improve the Article
Couple editors (whom I appreciated) worked on the "Natalia Toreeva" article, but it looks that Ymblanter is now working on something else, and another editor, Lemongirl942, suggested to send questions to the Teahouse to help with the article and to select the references needed for the article, using our talk conversation:
User talk:Toreeva#More sources. And since the article is related to the art in Russia (1970s-1980s), and some ref. are including the books in Russian, the Teahouse suggested to ask YOU for this kind of help. The following main references could be look to satisfy notability of the article:
- I'm the Member of the DuPage Writers Group (DWG), Illinois, USA, and the Member of the Artists Trade Union of Russia. You can looks into the references in my Talk section to see several resources where DWG shown as the real reliable resource, and the website of the art union (in Moscow) where I'm the member of the Artists in Russia.
- In that Artists Trade Union of Russia, I'm in the list of best 10,000 Artists of XVIII-XXI centuries in their International Rating category. I gave the web to that page. It is written in English.
- The editor also asked me to give the ISBNs of the books where my name is included in the articles. I gave the references of those books, and some of the articles written in Russian, but could be translated to English, and some, in English.
- I gave also references for the exhibitions, for example, 3d International exh. in St. Petersburg by "Manege" in 1997, and 4th exh. in 1999. You can look that my name is included in the exhibition of the art group "School of Sidlin".
- I wrote and illustrated 3 children's books, and they are included in the article. You can see the references in the DuPage Writers Group web and in the Publisher's web (sbpra...)
- I also illustrated several another books and I gave the references of those names and ISBNs.
- To include the Filmography section. The web site is given also. Before my immigration in 1977 to USA, I worked on the "Lenfilm" film studio, where most my memorable work was with the film director Aleksei German on the film "Twenty Days without war".
- Some of my art work is in museums. I have the official docs about their acceptance into their permanent collection, and I shown these docs to the DuPage Writers Group, so they included the museums in their web. I have 2 Posters in the Washingtom Museum of Russian literary and music (zislin museum), but the editors told me that that web is as a blog, so they can't include this museum. Please verify if you can read in Russian in his web about my name.
Please let me know if you have any questions. I hope you can help me with the article and selection of the references. Thanks.Toreeva (talk) 02:37, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Borscht FAC
Members of this wikiproject may be interested in the featured article nomination for Borscht. A source review would be particularly appreciated, especially of the Russian-language sources that are used in the article. — Kpalion(talk) 06:07, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
Alisa Kozhikina
Could someone who speaks Russian please look at this discussion: "Talk:Russia in the Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2014#Proposed merge with Alisa Kozhikina"? --Moscow Connection (talk) 03:01, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Alex Bakharev, Ymblanter, could you please look at the discussion I linked above? I feel it needs someone who speaks Russian and can check the sources. --Moscow Connection (talk) 03:05, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Help with finding sourcing?
I was wondering if anyone could help find Russian language sourcing for the film Girl Seeks Father, in specific for the awards listed on the article. It's up for deletion and if the awards can be sourced, it'll be kept. I did try looking with Google Translate, but that has its obvious flaws. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 06:44, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
- Done--Ymblanter (talk) 07:33, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Draft:Krasnostop Zolotovski
Hello,I am currently working on a draft on the Russian grape variety Krasnostop Zolotovski. Would appreciate some help from you guys since I'm not able to read Russian.This is the link to it,please feel free to add relevant information. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Krasnostop_Zolotovski— Preceding unsigned comment added by Limhwa97 (talk • contribs) 10:15, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
Obshina etc.
Could someone possibly take a look at the situation with article titles and redirects concerning the three related terms Obshchina, a form of village community in Imperial Russia; Obschina, the Moscow branch of the Chechen mafia, which redirects to Chechen mafia; and Opština (also spelled Občina), term used for municipalities in Russia and multiple Eastern European countries. I've added a couple of hatnotes for clarity, but the attention of someone more clued-up would be useful in determining what ought to redirect where, and what hatnotes ought to point in which direction, and so on. Thanks – Arms & Hearts (talk) 01:22, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
- I think we need a dab here.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:48, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
Should "Jewish nose" be moved to "Jewish nose stereotype"?
A suggestion has been made to change the title of Jewish nose to Jewish nose stereotype. One participant, after thoroughly losing the argument went, in opinion of some, on selective forum shopping. Therefore I am reposting his invitation where I think Jewish history took part as well. - üser:Altenmann >t 20:25, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
Date in old/new style
Are the dates on Alexander Tormasov in old or new style? Which calendar system? --146.140.210.15 (talk) 12:15, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
- New style (Gregorian)--Ymblanter (talk) 18:29, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
Fuad Aleskerov
Proposed deletion: Fuad Aleskerov. You are welcome to discuss this article. -- Andrew Krizhanovsky (talk) 13:22, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Anti-Russian sentiment
A move discussion proposing a rename to Russophobia is currently in progress at Anti-Russian sentiment. Discussion is welcome. Bataaf van Oranje (Prinsgezinde) (talk) 20:03, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
Notice to participants at this page about adminship
Many participants here create a lot of content, have to evaluate whether or not a subject is notable, decide if content complies with BLP policy, and much more. Well, these are just some of the considerations at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship.
So, please consider taking a look at and watchlisting this page:
You could be very helpful in evaluating potential candidates, and maybe even finding out if you would be a suitable RfA candidate.
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One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!
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FYI. - üser:Altenmann >t 04:51, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Please see this discussion. In my opinion the notability of 'tsarist autocracy' is too weak. If considered otherwise, the article needs a huge overhaul to better reflect historiographical debates and viewpoints. 2001:1C02:1907:9500:6DC8:DB74:E72E:310D (talk) 09:54, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi,
I am running an editathon about Antarctic Women Researchers. Some detail about the event can be found here:
I am very keen to write pages about women from a range of nationalities including Russia of course!
One page we have written is for the scientist, Irina Fedorova who is Russian Director of the Russian-German Otto Schmidt Laboratory at the Arctic and Antarctic Research Institute (AARI) and also Associate Professor at St. Petersburg State University. Unfortunately we are unable to get the page past the review process. I believe I might be missing relevant references in Russian. I would greatly value any help to strengthen this page as I would very much like to profile Irina Fedorova.
The page about here is here:
Draft:Irina_Fedorova_(scientist)
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
FAC of Vladimir Lenin
Hello there! As members of this WikiProject, you may be interested to see that the Vladimir Lenin article is currently undergoing an FAC here. If you have the time and inclination then it would be great if you could come along and offer your views on whether or not it meets the criteria. Midnightblueowl (talk) 11:49, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
Maps of Federal Subjects
Was looking at the article North Ossetia-Alania and the locator map is pretty difficult to use because it is at such small scale (as they all show all of Russia). Would it be possible/practical/reasonable within bounds of consensus to also (or instead) use locator maps that are a bit more zoomed in for the smaller federal subjects - particularly in European Russia - so that it is easier to see the area we are discussing? Kahastok talk 15:13, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
Translation help for article on short film
I'm currently in the process of creating an article on an animated short film called Le Building, and while the film itself is French, I've happened across a potential source in Russian. The source (which can be found here [17]) is from a website called thebytes.ru - I can't tell whether this site is RS or not. The article is very short, so I'm wondering whether anyone could figure out what kind of website this is, and if RS, translate the text. Thanks. --Jpcase (talk) 19:51, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
- No, this is not a RS, and the text does not contain any useful info except that the author finds the film cool and wants to share it with subscribers.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:38, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. I was thinking that if the author was a professional film critic, then his opinion might be worth citing in the critical reception section. But if the site doesn't appear to be an RS, and if the author doesn't appear to be an "established expert", then I'll disregard the source. --Jpcase (talk) 21:29, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
- No, it does not look like the author is an established expert.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:19, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. I was thinking that if the author was a professional film critic, then his opinion might be worth citing in the critical reception section. But if the site doesn't appear to be an RS, and if the author doesn't appear to be an "established expert", then I'll disregard the source. --Jpcase (talk) 21:29, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
Someone saying that they are the subject of the BLP has made an appearance at the talkpage, complaining about some things. A few more eyes would be appreciated. Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 05:42, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Requests for articles on the Russian Wikipedia: School districts in the U.S. and Canada with Russian-speaking students
I'm looking to see if there are any users on ENwiki who know Russian and are interested in writing Russian stubs (on RUwiki) on some Canadian and US school districts. Here are some ideas:
- en:Toronto District School Board (the largest school district in all of Canada) recently launched websites in many languages, and Russian is one of them http://www.tdsb.on.ca/languages/ru-ru/home.aspx - An article on the TDSB in Russian may be useful for Russians living in Toronto
- en:Beaverton School District (near Portland, Oregon) has a website in Russian: https://www.beaverton.k12.or.us/depts/tchlrn/md/Pages/welcome-russian.aspx
- en:San Francisco Unified School District has some Russian language documents posted here: http://www.sfusd.edu/en/family-and-community-support/translation-and-interpretation.html
- en:Vancouver School Board https://www.vsb.bc.ca/sites/default/files/shared/School%20Act%20-%20Russian.pdf
All of these districts have a population of Russian-speaking students, so it would be useful to start articles about them in Russian. WhisperToMe (talk) 15:17, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
So I was looking at relevant category, and Russia is one of the few major countries missing this topic from the series. Anyone feels like stubbing it? See for example National symbols of China, National symbols of Poland or National symbols of Germany. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:24, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
non-wp romanization of Russian by a user
Please review the doings of There, I have entered a username (talk · contribs), like this one, this, etc.. AFAIK this is not how Russian words are romanized in wikipedia. - üser:Altenmann >t 07:01, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
- I noticed that one on my watchlist. My understanding that the user does not try to Romanize names (for which we have article titles anyway) but to imitate the correct pronunciation. I may be wrong of course.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:06, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
- Whatever he is doing, it is not what is usually done. As for article titles, no we don't "anyway". In particular we typically omit patronymic in a feat of "idolopoklonnichestvo pered Zapadom". - üser:Altenmann >t 07:11, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
- It seems like Wikipedia prefers the BGN/PCGN romanization system, so I will be using that now. —There, I have entered a username (talk) 03:53, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
- To be honest, this user edits like Diabedia (talk · contribs) and Шибуево Жаңшулокикомав (talk · contribs)... – 96.246.193.252 (talk) 04:46, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
- It seems like Wikipedia prefers the BGN/PCGN romanization system, so I will be using that now. —There, I have entered a username (talk) 03:53, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
- Whatever he is doing, it is not what is usually done. As for article titles, no we don't "anyway". In particular we typically omit patronymic in a feat of "idolopoklonnichestvo pered Zapadom". - üser:Altenmann >t 07:11, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
KRK Uralets/DIVS Arena
To anyone familiar with the city of Yekaterinburg, I have a request for clarification: professional boxer Sergey Kovalev, according to BoxRec, has twice fought at a location named "DIVS". Via Google I somehow kept ending up at WP's article for KRK Uralets, which also had "Yekaterinburg Sports Palace" in the lead. Further sources, mainly boxing sites, kept mentioning a "DIVS Arena". However, no venue of that name comes up in Google Maps, and it invariably keeps hinting at KRK Uralets instead. Perhaps mistakenly, I edited the article to include all three names. So—are they the same venue? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 19:31, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- DIVS is this one. I am not from Yekaterinburg, but it does not seem obviously the same as KRK Uralets.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:42, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- The addresses are clearly different.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:44, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- This is the Russian article. There is an article in German as well; we currently do not have one.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:45, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Ah, so they are completely unrelated venues! I'm glad I checked here. In which case, I need to amend my mistakes made to the KRK Uralets article. Just to make sure, is this venue officially named "DIVS Arena", "DIVS Sport Palace", or just "DIVS"? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 19:52, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- It is just DIVS (the Russian Wikipedia says DIVS Uralochka, but I do not see how it is confirmed at the website of the venue). D stands for Palace (Dvorets) anyway, and S for Sport.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:13, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Ah, so they are completely unrelated venues! I'm glad I checked here. In which case, I need to amend my mistakes made to the KRK Uralets article. Just to make sure, is this venue officially named "DIVS Arena", "DIVS Sport Palace", or just "DIVS"? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 19:52, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- This is the Russian article. There is an article in German as well; we currently do not have one.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:45, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- The addresses are clearly different.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:44, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
DIVS is a generic term, not a proper name. It stands for dvorets igrovyh vidov sporta = "palace of sports games" or "palace of game sports", a descendant of the Soviet concept Palace of Sports. Often it was the only one in the city (same as Palace of Culture) and often had no "personal" name, but sometimes had, often after the "flafship" sports team. I guess the same in modern Russia. - üser:Altenmann >t 08:17, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
the DIVS in question is ru:Дворец игровых видов спорта (Екатеринбург) It has a "personal" name "Uralochka", I guess after VC Uralochka-NTMK Yekaterinburg. - üser:Altenmann >t 08:20, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
Invitation to Women in Food and Drink editathon
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I just started a stub...
for Vladimir Lomeiko, the list I was working from said Belarus, but the biography information I found looks more like Russia. Help?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 10:47, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
Soviet Vehicle Registration Plates
I have thus far created the Vehicle registration plates of the Soviet Union in Wikipedia and is in the process of translating it from the Russian wikipedia, does this article count into the project? Yevgeny Kitaysko-Angliskiy-Entuziastov (talk) 03:10, 12 November 2016 (UTC) Also is it fine to use the GOST 7.79-2000 System B for transliterating Russian words? Yevgeny Kitaysko-Angliskiy-Entuziastov (talk) 03:13, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
How or who to ask for help?
Hello. Sorry to be so lazy but can you please tell me where to ask about an article whose validity I doubt? Really I guess I need a Russian expert to have a quick look and figure out if it is a real topic, notable, etc ... I'm not qualified to do this. If you could please point me in the right direction ... ? Thanks DBaK (talk) 23:00, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- Ask here, and if no answer has been forthcoming, at a more general noticeboard.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:08, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for the prompt reply, and please see my next edit here. DBaK (talk) 09:00, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
Badayev warehouses - please have a look
Hello. I would be very grateful if a project member or two could please very kindly have a look at the article Badayev warehouses, at its collection of tags, and at the questions I have raised in "Some issues in this article" at its Talk page. It's a Leningrad article and I normally do stuff more like trumpets, yoghurt, Northumberland and Muswell Hill ... helllllp! Thanks, and best wishes to all, DBaK (talk) 09:04, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
- The article looks fine to me, I do not see any obvious hoaxes or smth, but of course it needs to be sourced. Merchant of the 1st guild is a rank (the highest rank of a merchant in Russia), but we do not seem to have an article about it. I will try to see whether any sources could be found.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:13, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for stepping in to help. Now that I know other eyes are on it I shall stop worrying. :) Cheers DBaK (talk) 12:49, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
Anyone help making the table like the one on the ru:Небесные_Гусары (The Russian Article)? Plus needs checking. Varxo (talk) 03:00, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
Cannabis in Russia needs improvement
We have a new article Cannabis in Russia, but it could really use improvement and expansion, especially from anyone who can read Russian sources. With a little polishing, it'd also be really useful to make a translated version for Russian Wikipedia since it's a topic of increasing interesting these days. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 03:01, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
2016 Community Wishlist Survey Proposal to Revive Popular Pages
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Kurnik pie
I am a new wikipedia user, so i decided to find a topic to work on. I went to this project and saw, that article about this pie needed to be made. I started working on it in my sandbox. Can anyone help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FriyMan (talk • contribs) 13:50, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
The article is submitted for publishment, please review it. FriyMan (talk) 20:22, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
Help with an article?
Is anyone familiar with the film The Three Bogatyrs on Distant Shores? It's up for AfD and I don't see where there's any true coverage in English, but I know that there has to be coverage in Russian. Anyone feel like looking for sourcing? I found this site, which looks to be a Russian equivalent of Rotten Tomatoes/Metacritic, via the Russian Wikipedia article but I'm not sure how usable it might be. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 05:49, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
- I only see this one, which is a reliable source but merely confirms the existence of the film and has two lines describing the plot.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:35, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
Polygyny
Please provide comment at Talk:Polygyny#Map of polygyny w.r.t. Russia. --Izno (talk) 13:50, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
Adoption of the Gregorian calendar#Adoption in Eastern Europe
As I suspect some editors have noticed, I have been changing many instances of Old Style and New Style dates to Adoption of the Gregorian calendar#Adoption in Eastern Europe in Russia-related articles. The reason for this can be found in detail at the the talk pages for those articles but can be summarised thus: the former article is now primarily about the start-of-year change and calendar change in Great Britain and colonies whereas the latter takes the world-wide view. I mention this here because thought you might like to know the background. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
"United States election interference by Russia"
There's quite a bit of discussion on this article that might interest this WikiProject. There's one discussion of a requested move and another on whether a statement by Putin should be included. Any suggestions on article improvement are welcome. FallingGravity 21:21, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
part of Orenburg Oblast
Small fragment of Orenburg Oblast which is between Ural river and Kazakhstan is Siberia or North Asia? It belongs to Asia, but it is seperated from other Russian Asia.--Ticgame (talk) 14:53, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- It is traditionally classified as South Urals, definitely not Siberia. It is actually not separated from the rest of Russian Asia, it borders Chelyabinsk Oblast.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:21, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- I already knew that some part of Asian Orenburg Oblast is not separated from the rest of Asian Russia. But other part of Asian Orenburg Oblast is separated from the rest of Asian Russia.
File:Europe Asia transcontinental.png This map shows that part of Asian Russia is seperated from other Asian Russia.
File:Sol-Iletsky District, within Orenburg Oblast.png, File:Akbulaksky District, within Orenburg Oblast.png see this.
The modern continental border follows Ural River and Ural Mountains to the Arctic Ocean.
Sol-Iletsky District, Akbulaksky District, Southern part of Orenburgsky District, Most of Ileksky District, Most of Belyayevsky District and part of Kuvandyksky District belong to Asia but they are seperated from other Asian Russia.
Your answer means that this area does not belong to Siberia. But I don't know that this area belongs to North Asia or not.Ticgame (talk) 16:54, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Cyrillic numerals
I've been working on the Cyrillic numerals entry, expanding with information from the Russian Wikipedia and additional sources. A review/reassessment would be valued. Thanks Carter (talk) 21:44, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
Girl with Peaches
Can someone please help me with this nomination: Template:Did you know nominations/Girl with Peaches? Please take a look at it.
By the way, you can invent new hooks for the DYK and improve the current ones. (Note that it will attract more views if the DYK entry says something crazy or something people won't undersand at first and will have to click the article link.)
Actually, I think it would be nice if the article was expanded a bit. For example, it could be added that the peaches were grown in Abramtsevo in a hothouse. Vera liked to eat them and there's a story about how she once entered the room and sat at the table and that was how Serov had the idea to paint her like this. You can find more in the Russian Wikipedia article.
And there is more here on Vokrugsveta.ru: [18] (in Russian) and in these two English-language articles on the Tretyakov Gallery website(s): [19], [20].
I'm asking here cause I think someone whose native language is English would be able to expand the article much better and many times faster than I... The painting deserves it, but it would just take me too long... --Moscow Connection (talk) 16:10, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Discussion at Talk:Presidencies of Vladimir Putin
A move discussion is presently taking place. Comments are very much welcome.--Nevé–selbert 19:37, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Edit-a-thon about the Rostov Oblast
Hello! The Russian Wikimedia chapter organized an international Edit-a-thon about the Rostov Oblast "Discover Russia. Start with the Don". The aim of the contest is to write articles about tourist attractions (museums, monuments, churches, notable buildings, parks, and so on) of the Rostov region in different languages. To take part in the Edit-a-thon you must write an article about the Rostov Oblast and add it to the table 3. 7 most active participants will receive prizes. The Edit-a-thon ends April 21. --Andreykor (talk) 09:23, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Rostec and Rosoboronexport
There's an open merge proposal for these two pages, with 2 supporters, but the case looks rather grey to me. Some expert eyes would help over on at Talk:Rosoboronexport#Russian Technology State Corp. Klbrain (talk) 21:22, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Commons:Photo challenge February 2017 is Multilingualism
FYI, take a look in commons:Commons:Photo challenge/2017 - February - Multilingualism. I'm sure there is some nice picture regarding also the Russian Federation and its many ethnicities that can be proposed, if you have it stored it somewhere. It's a way to think about images that we don't always collect, but can be useful.--Alexmar983 (talk) 07:17, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
Ung County
Hi All,
regarding the subject an editor wanted to add the Rusyn name in the infobox (Комітат ... (Rusyn)), but unfortunately he don't know it properly....since I did not find any Wikiproject for Rusyns, and Russians are the most close to Rusyns, maybe you could know or access the proper Rusyn name...If you manage, please correct the current incomplete addition.
(I already asked a Russian admin, but unfortunately he could not help...)
Thanks(KIENGIR (talk) 19:12, 10 February 2017 (UTC))
Ruthenian people categories have been nominated for discussion
Several Ruthenian people categories have been nominated for possible renaming, merging or deletion. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at
- Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2017_February_10#Category:Ruthenian_princesses
- Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2017_February_11#Category:Ruthenian_women
- Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2017_February_12#Ruthenian_people_by_period
- Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2017_February_12#Ruthenian_people_by_descent
on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:09, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I created a template (Template:WikiProject Russia topicon) that adds a Russian flag as a topicon. Where should it be included, if it should, on the project page for use by members of WikiProject Russia? Thank you. RoCo(talk) 05:29, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Before I nominate this for deletion, please can someone from the Russian Wikiproject take a look and see if they can find sources to back up anything in the article? It is currently a completely unsourced BLP, so technically, should be nominated for deletion, but I thought I should ask over here first to give the page a fair chance - the subject definitely sounds like there OUGHT to be sources, but I am surprised that I can't find anything very convincing on quick searches, especially if her CV/media profile is accurately reported here. Perhaps a lot of the best sources are in Russian? Thanks so much! Mabalu (talk) 00:32, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Is anyone able to undertake a quick google of Russian language entries on this delivery van project, and share anything interesting on the wiki entry? please?
Thank you (if you did) for thinking about it.
Regards Charles01 (talk) 09:55, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- I removed the PROD template; the article should go to AfD for proper evaluation of notability.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:09, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
RFC on Fabergé egg naming convention
A recent page move discussion has raised an interesting question regarding the disambiguation of Fabergé egg titles. I have started an RFC in an attempt to codify the naming conventions of these eggs. Please join in the discussion here. Primefac (talk) 16:59, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
Temperatures in Yakutia / Sakha Republic regularly exceed 50 °C / 120 °F ?
The article Prehistory of Siberia says:
"Yakutia [aka Sakha Republic], northeast of the Lena, is among the coldest places on Earth, but every year it also reaches temperatures of more than 50 °C."
Regular temperatures of 50 °C seems like a rather strong claim. No cite is given, and the article Sakha Republic says "it has been known to be very hot during the day in Yakutsk in July (record = +38.4 °C (101.1 °F))." (This is also not cited.)
Does anybody have the actual (cited) figures for this?
Thanks -- 179.210.125.175 (talk) 17:44, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
- The text was translated from German, but in German it rather says "varies" (verb schwankt) than "reaches". Wrong translation, maybe. In Oymyakon the usual temperature varies from -50 to +20, that is for over 50 degrees.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 23:45, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Another RfC at Talk:Cold War II
I started another RfC discussion Talk:Cold War II#RfC: "Novel risks and measures for preventing escalation" section earlier this month. I invite you to comment there. --George Ho (talk) 05:42, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
Upcoming "420 collaboration"
You are invited to participate in the upcoming which is being held from Saturday, April 15 to Sunday, April 30, and especially on April 20, 2017!The purpose of the collaboration, which is being organized by WikiProject Cannabis, is to create and improve cannabis-related content at Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects in a variety of fields, including: culture, health, hemp, history, medicine, politics, and religion. WikiProject Russia participants may be particularly interested in the following: Cannabis in Russia. For more information about this campaign, and to learn how you can help improve Wikipedia, please visit the "420 collaboration" page. |
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Article move discussion
Greetings! I have recently relisted a requested move discussion at Talk:Footballer of the Year in Russia#Requested move 23 March 2017, regarding a page relating to this WikiProject. Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks, Yashovardhan (talk) 03:33, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Founder of Stavropol
I've recently moved to Stavropol and found out that the founder of the city was Alexander Suvorov rather than Prince Potemkin (which is what the English Wikipedia says). I guess Potemkin might have given the order as he was Empress Catherine the Great plenipotentiary in Caucasus but, according to the official information provided by the city administration, the place was built under the supervision of Suvorov so I suggest this is changed or at least specified in the article.[21] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.177.58.201 (talk) 13:14, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
Discussion at Talk:Kalinin#Requested move 15 April 2017
The above-referenced discussion regarding the proposed move of Kalinin → Kalinin (disambiguation), Sverdlov → Sverdlov (disambiguation), Kirov → Kirov (disambiguation), Molotov → Molotov (disambiguation), Zhdanov → Zhdanov (disambiguation) and Chernenko → Chernenko (surname) may be of interest. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 04:19, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
Help translating source
Assistance would be appreciated in translating this source for the article Russian ship Liman. In particular the radio equipment names. Alcherin (talk) 21:30, 27 April 2017 (UTC)