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Rifat Hasan Rabbi

@Spiderone: Dear Sir, Rifat Hasan Rabbi is an Musical Artist.He is verified artist on many International Media. So,I think he should have a article on Wikipedia.I give some valid link for verification. I give his Google Scholar Link.https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=1a4jzasAAAAJ It is his google scholar link. Please,don't delete this article. Thank you.

I have responded to you on the deletion discussion. Please continue the conversation there instead of here. Thanks Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:17, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Gallery sandnox

Hi! I removed the speedy tag here as I just started the page for a new, conflicted user to submit his proposed copy. He didn't have access to start a page. Let me know if there's a better way? Star Mississippi 20:19, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

@Star Mississippi: Hi! Such articles, in my opinion, would be better in draft space or user space until ready to be published. I would suggest a title like User:Nj1948/sandbox/The Gallery (1973-78) as a more appropriate location. Alternatively, it could be moved to draft in its current form. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:27, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Spiderone. I'll go with the user sandbox unless you feel strongly that the article itself should be in draftspace at the moment. I cleaned up the worst of the issues that resulted in draftification and *think* it's notable, but it's not a crystal clear pass of WP:ORG, so there's room for conversation. Thanks again. Star Mississippi 20:35, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

@Star Mississippi: - I would definitely agree that notability appears to be demonstrated and that this topic should be covered somewhere! Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:47, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! BTW, I G7ed the article space sandbox. Hope that didn't mess up your CSD stats. Realized later that I technically shouldn't have removed it as creator but we sorted it out in the end, which is I think all that matters for tests. Star Mississippi 20:52, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

@Star Mississippi: - I wouldn't worry too much as it was clear that you were acting in good faith! Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:18, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Sachin Vashist is a Notable Person of India

Sachin Vashist is a Well Known person of India. Please remove deletion tag from his Article. Thank you Syed amjad08 (talk) 08:46, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

I beg to differ, he only has press release coverage. Press releases are paid for and anyone with enough money can have them. This does not indicate notability. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:20, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		For averting the train wreck into a dumpster fire that was Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shovan. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:30, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Article Deletion rewrite proposal for VISIONx (follow up)

Hello, I'm just following up on the VISIONx page that was proposed for deletion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Visionx). I have a 3rd-party, rewritten article ready to publish (preview at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RE95BWDv9-hm-NqkALBXy6-4hj4ei6iX1XU6T7QVli4/edit), but I'd love some feedback on if it meets guidelines to resolve the issues proposing the original content for deletion. Do you have any suggestions for how I should proceed with this? Can I publish the content myself? Thanks in advance! Bcvisi2009 (talk) 17:26, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Deplug1

I certainly appreciate the heads up, but I was very much keeping an eye on the SPI myself. Regardless, if my experience of UPE socking is any indication, it's rare that any more is heard from any particular account once it's been caught. More likely, there will be more socks coming in the future. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 09:07, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Seraphimblade - agreed. I'll keep an eye on MC Chido and Adesegun Adeosun Jr and others that they are likely to attempt to make. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:58, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Autopatrolled granted

Hi Spiderone, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the autopatrolled right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. However, you should consider adding relevant wikiproject talk-page templates, stub-tags and categories to new articles that you create if you aren't already in the habit of doing so, since your articles will no longer be systematically checked by other editors (User:Evad37/rater and User:SD0001/StubSorter.js are useful scripts which can help). Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! – Joe (talk) 09:20, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

On the recent sock accounts being exposed

I’ve had my eyes on several of the accounts being exposed of recent from Amosflash, Delords, Deplug1 to Franknaija1999. I took action against the first named account a while ago, I took action against the second account about a month ago, and the third, two days ago. You see, long before I took action against the aforementioned accounts, I had them on my watchlist and noted the possibility of them engaging in unethical practices but I wasn’t too bothered because their edits were negligible and also because they clearly lacked experience (their overt COI edits clearly demonstrated this) However the moment it got to a point where their COI was causing exponential disruption to the collaborative project, I formally reported them. I largely remain unbothered about inexperienced editors making negligible COI edits such as the aforementioned, I could always undo or revert their actions. I wrote an essay WP:CONNECTTHEDOTS, of which Netherzone did the honors of naming, if you read it, you’d note the group of editors I am most concerned about are “established” and experienced editors who know policy, how they work and know how to mix COI(Paid editing) with creating good and brilliant encyclopedic articles of value. It is they I pay great attention to. Good catch on the editor Scotthonest (they aren’t pinged). I’m not sure if this is just sad or very regaling, for starters, the irony in their username and secondly the fact that their Userpage itself is (in my opinion) intentionally mendacious. Celestina007 (talk) 17:03, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Celestina007 thanks for sharing that essay. It's genuinely scary how many UPE accounts there are. Sad that, what is a hobby for most of us, is actually a form of corrupt income for others. Also really sad to see how backed up WP:SPI is. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:51, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

I would have explained in detail a lot more on why there are numerous sock and UPE accounts but I am very conscious of what I “say”, but yes you are correct what’s fun for us(half the time I edit) I’m drinking Tea and basically relaxing whereas for some people it is serious business. Celestina007 (talk) 18:05, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Did I hear a ping? Hello you two. I have a question, there was recently an AfD that was closed by an editor with a low edit count under 700 total edits at that time. The article had a long history of COI editing going back to 2008. I thought the AfD was closed prematurely. I noticed there was a trend of more keep closures by this fairly unexperienced editor. It surprised me that they would be closing AfDs and seemed to understand the process so well. I'm just wondering, in relation to WP:CONNECTTHEDOTS, if a keen eye should be kept on possible COI/UPEs who display this type of behavior (or if I'm just being skeptical.) Netherzone (talk) 19:00, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

@Netherzone: there are a number of vandals that no their way around the AfD process, unfortunately. The first one that comes to mind is the AfD sock vandal User:Phoenix man who I haven't seen in a while. I wonder if this user shows similar behaviour? Any premature closing of an AfD by a non-admin should be reverted really or at least go to WP:DRV. Could well be COI. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:03, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I have learned to never take anything you say as simply being skeptical, Netherzone. I would find it highly suspicious for a non-admin with just 700 edits to be closing an AfD on anything. It's probably a DRV candidate. --ARoseWolf 19:10, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks all, I'll have a look at the user mentioned above (who has a different username than the one who I'm skeptical of - will compare the two editors). I will review the DRV process guidelines and will probably open a deletion review (which will be a first for me.) Netherzone (talk) 20:39, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

• Comment — @Spiderone, To expatiate on my initial entry, along with editors I’m most concerned about “being the ones who are experienced, know policy and engage in unethical practices” are this sort of editors, I worded it too harshly thus Beeblebrox(a functionary I have great respect for) expressed their concerns about the essay thus I immediately moved it to my userspace, I respect them that much. Now, whilst it was indeed too harsh, What the essay was/is basically saying is an even more dangerous group of editors are what i term “groomer accounts” they can spend years doing good work with the aim of achieving a very bad faith goal or goals. Since I am conscious of every edit I make I am compelled to provide citation. For reference sake, look at Ukpong1 and how they incarnated as Lapablo, Now notice how they were able to be patient, gain community trust and having done so, commenced their true goal(edit for pay). To substantiate this, I can show you a TEAHOUSE entry wherein they were outed/exposed. Celestina007 (talk) 18:43, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Celestina007 - wow, that's shocking that they managed to amass so many rights on their account despite having bad intentions from the start. Really interesting because some of these rights are so difficult to obtain. Glad they got exposed in the end and hopefully most of their paid editing has been wiped. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:57, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

That was why I was trying to make WP:IBUSA a policy, I pitched the idea to my master @Barkeep49 he didn’t buy it and whilst some saw my angle others clearly didn’t(which of course remains their prerogative). Any editor significantly indicted in undisclosed paid editing and has a track record of creating dubious promotional articles has no business with Autopatrol and NPP rights. Celestina007 (talk) 19:04, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

I agree that UPE and a history of creating promotional articles are each a disqualifier for AfC, Autopatrol, and NPP. Indeed when some former NPP have been blocked for UPE I have even done a systematic review of their patrols to ensure the right wasn't abused. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 19:37, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Help re: DRV

Hello Spiderone, I have filed a DRV here: [1] and I am wondering if you have the time to check to see if I have filed it correctly. I tried to follow the steps in the process, however I am unclear about step 5 means. Thanks in advance, and if you are too busy, I understand! Netherzone (talk) 14:28, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

@Netherzone:, no worries, I've sorted it now, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Forte Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:55, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Celestina suggested a drink and cigar as a thank you, which I thought was a superb idea. But since I cannot do that in person, here's a cognac, a cigar and a cup of coffee by way of Commons.

Cheers and thanks for sorting things out

Netherzone (talk) 19:23, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Netherzone many thanks!! Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:01, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

New Wikipedia Page Published

Sir can you help me for publishing a new article for Bangladeshi singer. What things need for cerate a new page and how many sources need for cerate new a pages Tanvirnahid565 (talk) 08:15, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Tanvirnahid565 I would suggest a good knowledge of WP:GNG would be best practice. In my opinion, three good sources should be a minimum. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:22, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Request for retrival

I would like to retrive the recently speedy deleted draft:article, to check or make sure to include no promotional content Cyril Mukalel (talk) 03:01, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Cyril Mukalel please go to WP:UNDELETE Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:48, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Creating a person's page

what to do with page bro? Paheislam (talk) 09:31, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Paheislam please cite reliable sources and avoid YouTube, IMDb, Google search, Facebook, Twitter, Spotify etc., if he is notable then there should be plenty of news websites and music websites covering him in detail Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:35, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

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Ayan(actor)

Yes this is same article as Ayan Nayak as we can't access Ayan Nayak's article to create. Please don't delete I will add more information in upcoming days Axus1252 (talk) 19:38, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Draft:My Restful Mind Inc.

Sorry, this is my first article I am a 17-year intern at the company, and being from a country where there are no mental health services listed on Wikipedia I wanted to create one, please revert this as I have now disclosed that I am connected and please guide further for any improvement being here at Wikipedia.

(talk page stalker) Hello, Refazbirahsa. Have you looked at WP:COI and how to disclose? This will tell you everywhere you should disclose of this information. Although you have stated you are an intern I would recommend reviewing WP:PAID as well, just to make sure you are covered. We are glad to have you here on Wikipedia and I hope this helps you. Happy editing! --ARoseWolf 15:12, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Refazbirahsa please note that you also strongly advised to make this disclosure on your own user page User:Refazbirahsa and also on the article talk page for the articles that you create. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 15:14, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Refazbirahsa, Everything that Spiderone and I are pointing you to is to benefit you as you proceed. The last thing we want is for you to do something that will unintentionally lead to disciplinary actions here. Personally, I would recommend you use the talk page for any article connected to your COI in order to facilitate any changes to that article. I know that seems the long away around when you could just make the changes yourself but keep in mind that the community deals with lots of vandalism, PR and non-neutral POV pushing on a minute by minute basis. Discussing something on a talk page will go a long way to fostering community relations building and open yourself up to gaining insight from others. Hopefully you will find that editing here can be quite enjoyable and choose to continue editing further, than what you already have, in areas that your COI does not apply. --ARoseWolf 15:27, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

hello

@Spiderone:

Hi. I would very much like to be friends with you, dear user. So please help me register the pages. Thanks a lot.E B R A M (talk) 18:27, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Ebrugundesh I would strongly suggest using draft space as a lot of the articles are effectively unreferenced. The references that you put on the article are broken as the URLs direct us to websites that don't appear to exist. All articles on living people should have valid references. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:20, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

hello

@Spiderone:

Hello dear user. I object to your labeling. You are very strict. But I do not tag other users' pages. Your work is not right. I had nothing to do with your pages. Thanks.E B R A M (talk) 20:04, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Ebrugundesh this is now the third article on a living person that you have created in the last few days where every single reference is fake. This is totally inappropriate and violates WP:BLP, WP:V and several other core policies. If you carry on behaving in this way, I will take this to WP:ANI. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:06, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

@Spiderone:

It is not a fake reference. The link is Persian, unfortunately there is a problem. I do not know what to do? The link has Persian letters and is not used in English Wikipedia. Help me register these pages. Thank you very much. You are my teacher.E B R A M (talk) 20:10, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Ebrugundesh that's not the issue. The issue is that you are linking to websites that clearly do not exist such as https://theatlasofbeauty.com/wiki/Romina and http://www.bloggers-bank.com/%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%86%D8%A7-%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A8%DB%8C-romina-torabi/wiki/Romina even though neither of these websites have wikis. In fact, there shouldn't be any websites ending in 'wiki/Romina'. After the AfD concludes, I will remove all of the 'references' as none of them comply with policy. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:17, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

@Spiderone:

You did not understand the problem. I will explain more to you tomorrow. Thanks.E B R A M (talk) 20:49, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

@Spiderone:

I created the sources. I increase the number of resources to 35. Thanks. Please help me register this page.E B R A M (talk) 06:47, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

2021-22 Millbrook A.F.C. season article

Hi, I'm the user that has created the 2021-22 Millbrook A.F.C season page that you've been discussing regarding notability issues. I was hoping you could make an exception, as this is the first time that the club have ever played in the fifth tier of the national football league, it's been a huge event for the village. I noted that one way for the article to pass the notability criteria would be for multiple seasons to be added, would you consider this sufficient to approve the article? Spuddie79 (talk) 11:20, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Spuddie79 hi, if you can find multiple reliable news sources reporting on their progress then please share at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2021-22 Millbrook A.F.C. Season. I would certainly not approve adding any other seasons until this deletion discussion concludes. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:27, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Humrich

Hi again Spiderone, looks like we had an edit conflict on the above article I tagged it for CSD A7 and G12 (over 80% of the article comes from spotify) just seconds before you were bringing it to AfD, I'll just support your AfD in any case as the speedy may be declined. Best wishes JW 1961 ^Talk 22:15, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Joseywales1961 well spotted with the G12, I had completely overlooked the copyright infringement! To be honest, it should probably be speedied. I'll keep the AfD on there in the off chance that an admin declines the speedy for whatever reason. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:17, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks and goodnight - getting near my bedtime! JW 1961 ^Talk 22:20, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) apparently I never unfollowed your page after our chat above, Spiderone so I saw this. AfD is closed now, another admin had speedied it Joseywales1961. #Teamwork! Star Mississippi 22:34, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks all! I'll retire myself now after a good, hard day of vandalism fighting! Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 23:11, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

You're very welcome. But are you going to become a duck? (and why can't I find our article on that?) Star Mississippi 02:01, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

How can I get this article approved? I need more help on this. Thank you John Patrick Harris (talk) 21:41, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

hello

@Spiderone: : Please remove the poll tag from the Souzan Safania page. This page was created for the first time. And the source of the page was Turkish and it was complete. Please help me.E B R A M (talk) 07:08, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Ebrugundesh I can't see any indication of notability if I'm being honest. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:01, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Ebrugundesh, as I said already once, tags are removed at the end of the AfD when consensus is decided and not before. Asking isn't going to change that. Star Mississippi 13:41, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

@Star Mississippi: :

I'm right, I'm subject to your opinion.E B R A M (talk) 14:28, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Ebrugundesh, not sure what you mean here- can you clarify? It has nothing to do with my opinion, other than being the one to nominate it for discussion. It's a matter of consensus forming. Star Mississippi 14:46, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

@Star Mississippi: :

No. I mean, you are my teacher.E B R A M (talk) 15:03, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

@Spiderone: : Please remove the deletation tag from the Umesh Kaushik page. This page was now unpromotional and no advertising links, Keep this page permanently and remove the deletation template.

Great work...

Hey,

Great work on digging out the old AFD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amirmahdi Farzin, I would never have known it was previously created.Riteboke (talk) 19:10, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Riteboke thanks :) Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:22, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

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