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Hey Titodutta! I hope your feeling better. Sorry for all the hard and demanding times we had. And I want to show you something :-). --Aaqib Waramchoi (talk) 15:14, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Look, it is about India. And this type of wiki needs more Asians. --Aaqib Waramchoi (talk) 17:54, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
You know what, I don't need a moron like you. --Aaqib Waramchoi (talk) 21:33, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Your input invited

Hi Tito, We were just shooting the breeze on my talk page about a list of historic schools in India and, as is usual, the conversation drifted to unrelated things, eventually leading to Bengali names and how in the Calcutta University Calendar of 1868, they were all transcribed in their Sanskrit forms. Since your name came up in the discussion, User_talk:Fowler&fowler#Colonial_India (second half), I thought you might want to weigh in (if you so choose). We were just trying to understand, not make fun or anything like that. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 16:19, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Nemai Ghosh

Hi, can you clarify whether Nemai Ghosh, the man behind Chinnamul and the one who is mentioned here are one and the same. Vensatry (Ping me) 16:33, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Both are cinematographers hailing from West Bengal and more importantly they worked for Satyajit Ray. Of these one has worked in Tamil films and even won a National Award. Vensatry (Ping me) 16:41, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
  • @Vensatry:, not the one who made Chinnamul, but, don't despair, you have created a wonderful article. Please spend two minutes to read the plot section of Chinnamul, he made the film in 1950, 5 years before Pather Panchali. Satyajit ray's photographer and Chinnamul's director are two different people, that's how I feel. TitoDutta 17:27, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, looks like both worked in Tamil too. Vensatry (Ping me) 17:37, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

The Nemai Ghosh who made Chinnamul should be the older one. The still photographer of Ray on the other hand is said to be 77 years old (in 2011), who again goes with the same name. He may not be the one who made Chinnamul, since it's hard to believe someone making a film at 16. Vensatry (Ping me) 17:56, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Bartaman Bharat

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:03, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Swami Vivekananda GA article for DYK. What is the format to be followed? Is it the same as normal DYK?--Nvvchar. 12:06, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Can I nominate (only 2 DYK's)? Sohambanerjee1998 12:25, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
No. TitoDutta 12:27, 29 September 2013 (UTC) Yes, nominate, but, quick. --TitoDutta 12:31, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Yes nominated it with a hook of mine since you did not provide any. Sohambanerjee1998 12:57, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi! Tito. Swami Vivekananda and meditation is done. You may nominate it now. Sara Chapman Bull has been transferred wrongly as User:Sara Chapman Bull. Please rectify and nominate. What about Vivekananda in California article? I suppose it could be transferred from my user page and nominated.--Nvvchar. 05:03, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Tito! I am nominating two pages for deletion South Kanpur (Lok Sabha constituency) & South Kanpur district which is related to WikiProject India. So please express your views about these pages. Thanks --Prateek Malviya (talk) 10:18, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Boss 2(2013 Bengali film)

While this fails WP:NFF, the topic of a planned sequel IS beginning to be spoken about in reliable sources.[1] Yes, the article is TOO SOON, but in being sourcable it is not a speedy-able film topic. Best, Schmidt, Michael Q. 10:36, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for adding me to Template:Did you know nominations/Bahujana sukhaya bahujana hitaya cha. But i have removed it as i have hardly done anything there. But thanks!!   §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 06:38, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

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Need to share some journals, articles with you. --TheMandarin (talk) 08:50, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Religion not the Crying need of India

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Religion not the crying need of India

I was going by the Chicago Inter Ocean article. Looking at Google Books, the results are all over the place: the top three results are Religion Not the Crying Need of India, Religion not the Crying Need of India, and Religion not the crying need of India. That is: three different capitalisations, and none of them the one you had. StAnselm (talk) 09:29, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Re: Swami Viveknanda DYK

I am going to nominate Influence and legacy of Swami Vivekananda for DYK but please provide me with Hook and Image. I know the rest. Sohambanerjee1998 16:18, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

I looked over my talk, no hook was suggested. Please suggest a hook. Sohambanerjee1998 07:07, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

I had asked Rosiestep to nominate Template:Did you know nominations/Vivekananda in California but it has not been possible to trasnclude it to the DYK nomination page. Please see to rectify.--Nvvchar. 08:30, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Nvv, don't know what to do with it but please provide me with a hook regarding the Influence and legacy of Swami Vivekananda. Sohambanerjee1998 08:40, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Today is Gandhij's birth day celebration. I suppose this hook ... that Influence and legacy of Swami Vivekananda was profound on Mahatma Gandhi (pictured) during his visit to Belur Math in 1921 when he said “that the love that I had for my country became a thousand-fold”? should be fine. Add picture of Gandhi which is in the article.--Nvvchar. 09:24, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Tito, has the above nominated? Otherwsie I will nominate it. How about three other articles still on your user page. There is also on Surya Namaskar Yagna on my user sandbox page? can you get some solid refrences on Vivekananda Temple in Belur Math.--Nvvchar. 12:04, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Nvv, if by the above you were referring to me then I have a name, please use it. I will be indebted to you. Sorry for the late reply as I am on a wikibreak, came back only for the DYK noms. Regarding the hook, its too long and will get rejected. Suggest a shorter hook, within 200 characters. Please ping me when you are replying. Sohambanerjee1998 12:25, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
If there is no objection to the use of the honorific, then please go head and nominate. You can move other articles also and nominate. I will out for an hour and nominate Influence and legacy of Swami Vivekananda. --Nvvchar. 12:24, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
  • Extremely confused.

Please provide the below -

  1. Hook (within 200 characters) - ... that Influence and legacy of Swami Vivekananda was deep on Mahatma Gandhi during his 1921 visit to Belur Math when he said “that the love that I had for my country became a thousand-fold”? It is just 200 ch
  2. Picture -Picture of Gandhi is in the article

for the article Influence and legacy of Swami Vivekananda. Sohambanerjee1998 12:51, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, nomination complete. Sohambanerjee1998 17:13, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Hello and thank you

Hello Titodutta, and thank you for your many contributions to Wikipedia. I am contacting you because you are an active editor who was listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Neutrality. It is my hypothesis that a re-branded "WikiProject" that is more "edgy" and decentralized could prove to be more successful than a structured WikiProject when tackling issues related to this core concept. So I have started something I named Wikipedia:Neutrality cabal. I've already gotten a real-life friend to sign up, and you might know how hard that is to get people to participate on this medium. I invite you to sign up and contribute there so that we can hopefully collaborate, build camaraderie, and improve the encyclopedia. Best regards. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 17:14, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Done! Welcome. =) Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 17:39, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
And that is a very neat design, thank you! Are there any other examples of WikiProject page designs you favor? I'm looking into that, as you may have seen from my talk page. Thanks again. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 17:41, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
It looks good, thank you. =) Feel free to implement it. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 18:03, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Eknath Ranade

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DYK for Adhisaya Ulagam 3D

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Replied again. --Apoc2400 (talk) 14:22, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

I got a new version up. --Apoc2400 (talk) 20:44, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you for self-reverting. I'm not sure what you intended with the reverted edit's comment. Neither of us is a newcomer here. The article does need substantial work to meet basic standards of grammar, and reduce the reliance on sources tied too closely to the subject.LeadSongDog come howl! 03:36, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

  • @LeadSongDog:, your edit was partially correct. Note, primary sources are not evil always, WP:PRIMARY also says Unless restricted by another policy, primary sources that have been reliably published may be used in Wikipedia; but only with care, because it is easy to misuse them. The two sources I generally refer, are widely referred everywhere, see Google Books, the best of best sources refer those two books. The cares they mentioned: don't analyse them, don't interpret them, I kept those in mind. TitoDutta 11:49, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
    • I was more curious about the wp:BITE edit comment, because it doesn't seem to apply. I was rather restrained about applying the {{primary sources}} tags. In fact very few of the sources seem to be written from an independent, objective wp:POV. Most of them are written or published by followers, disciples, maths, etc, and have a distinctly admiring tone to them, omitting anything critical of the subject. Truly independent secondary sources are far more reliable. This sort of source can be a challenge to find when writing articles on religious, faith-based, and clerical subjects, but it is all the more necessary in such topic areas. LeadSongDog come howl! 15:13, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
      • @LeadSongDog: One may bite anyone, newbie or oldie does not matter. I did not notice your name while reverting, I self-reverted because I found you tried to help as well by making some copyediting and making some changes in the "sources" section. That's a good thing. Coming to the sources: the two sources you have tagged a) Vivekananda 2006 — I used it only once in the article, and the information was supported by two sources — one secondary source. You could easily remove the Vivekananda 2006 source. There is no rule that each information need to be supported by multiple sources, but, sometimes I try to do so, specially if the information is sensitive. About the second source "My India, Eternal India", this is a wonder book, let me inform you, the book is divided into two parts, the first part (which covers 3/4th of the book) is just collection of quotes of Vivekananda and in the second part is biographical and contains few essays etc. Naturally the first part's authorship is attributed to Vivekananda (since it is his quotes), but, the second part is written by Lokeswarananda. I cited content from the second part. I am unsure, if in such situation I should include only the section author's name. It'll not be an issue to find secondary sources for those 2—3 quotes. The only two differences are— a) in these books you have all information in one place, else you have to search here there, everywhere, read fragments (i.e. Google Books preview) peep into snippets, b) I generally try to cite from these books Wikipedia:WikiProject Swami Vivekananda/Harvnb, I have started buying books, but, some of the books are very very high-priced, I just can not afford them. Rajagopal Chattopadhyay's book and few other books are my long time targets, but price is just too high (since these books are everyday requirement, collecting from library will not help since I have to return the book to them after few days). Primary sources are not bad always, see the article Creative Commons license, almost all sources are primary, and that is needed there and helps the article. WP:PRIMARY suggests to use primary sources with care. I did not analyse sources or added my comments, just rewrote information. Those books are referred everywhere by scholars and researchers, it is better to cite directly than to write like this "Scholar A in his "Book A" cited "Writer B"'s "Book B" where "Writer B" told ...." But, yes, the cares WP:PRIMARY mentions should be carefully and strictly taken.
        About the copyedit issues, yes, it was a known issue, there were/are many typos, error. If you see the edit history, I saved the first edit with some 13 thousand bytes. It took me 3 and a half hour to study to prepare just "one" edit. I told two more editors that after studying many pages and writing 16 thousand bytes in four five hours at a stretch, I was tired and asked them to make necessary changes. Copyediting is being done. You may help. TitoDutta 15:49, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
        • And for information, as I have said "My India, Eternal India" is a wonderful book, actually every quote, every paragraph and everything there is cited as well. There are footnotes for everything — from where they have taken e.g. Kesari 4 July 1902, Indian Mirror 15 February 1898, Swaraj 22 Vaisakh 1214 (Bengali year), Aurbindo's complete works, Bose's memorial volume, Nehru's autobiography — everything has details including page number, year, edition — like Wikipedia. But, naturally I can not access those sources from a "paper book", I don't know what should I do here, cite "My India, Eternal India" or the sources they are referring (and I have not seen them). TitoDutta 15:57, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Buddhism, the Fulfilment of Hinduism

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DYK for Nilkantha Bagchi

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What a coincidence! Yesterday night I was thinking of an article om the music related article on Vivekananda. The book Sangeet Kalpataru is still under circulation. I think the content should be in the present tense. Why not one on Musicologist Vivekananda if we can enough material to write on it? --Nvvchar. 05:11, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

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Namàste dearest Tito, how are you?

I just made this new page of a wonderful Italian actress. The first is Benedicta Boccoli, bust she's on 2nd place!!! Please, I ask you 5 minutes of your time, to correct all my mistakes.

Thank a lot and have a nice week-end!

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Look at this page User:Babitaarora. Sohambanerjee1998 07:56, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

I don't remember, which was your last signature? This one I think - Tito Dutta . Sohambanerjee1998 18:15, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

inre Sri Ramakrishna Darshanam

Time for a DYK. It should be added and sourced within the article's lede, but I'm thinking

"Did you know... that the 2012 biographical film Sri Ramakrishna Darshanam is the first film capturing the life and times of 19th-century Bengali mystic saint Ramakrishna?

What'cha think? Schmidt, Michael Q. 08:36, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

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Sangeeta Kalpataru

I have completed my inputs to Sangeet Kalpataru also. But it may be useful to give the names of the 12 songs included in the book. This reference [2] gives names of songs scripted and sung by Vivekananda and Ramakrishna and if you have the book you can verify if these songs are part of the book. This book is also a very good sources to write on Vivekananda's passion for music.

Relationship between Ramakrishna and Swami Vivekananda is done. You may lie ro romove the hat tag on copy editing since I have done my bit.

Swami Vivekananda's prayer to Kali at Dakshineswar is also done. Now, all three articles could be nominated. --Nvvchar. 14:35, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Dasara article for news page has been killed. You may like to join me before I post it on DYK as there is still time for that. The User:Titodutta/Vedanta Society of Northern California and User:Titodutta/Kanyakumari resolve of 1892 are yet to be moved. There 17 articles of Vivekananda pending approval on DYK. In the relationship article who don't you post Ramakrishna's photo. There are already many of Vivekananda imgs on DYK and many more will come also. I have read the Ramakrishna article and talk page discussions. I doubt very much if it can ever be taken to GA considering the controversies. Any way I will work on it a little more leisurely but not at the DYK pace. --Nvvchar. 07:18, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

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Tito, a new user is creating articles about his family. I got involved because I speedy deleted one article. Unfortunately, I undermined my own credibility by mistakenly tacking on a BLPPROD tag to one of the other articles, without realizing the person was no longer alive. At this point, I think it would be preferable for someone else to look at the articles and evaluate whether they should remain at all on Wikipedia and, if yes, clean them up. Besides, you're much more knowledgeable than I am about Indian subjects. The two articles are Y.Adinarayana Reddy and YerrapuReddy Ravindra Reddy.

If you don't have the time or inclination to look at them, no worries, just let me know, and I'll see if I can find someone else. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:38, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Bahujana sukhaya bahujana hitaya cha

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DYK for Sangeet Kalpataru

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Adriana Seroni

Namàste dearest Tito, how are you? Here Autumn is came!!!

I just made this page, little page, it's more little than a stub. I ask your precious help to read it fot 5 minutes, and correct my mistakes.

Thanks a lot for your help!

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DYK for Swami Vivekananda in California

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Need Your URGENT HELP Against Vandalism

Hi Tito ! It's great to meet you here. I did get your message (On my Talk Page) about the edit on Rituparno Ghosh & trust me, I have understood my mistake. Appreciate it !

Well, today I need you HELP regarding the Continuous vandalism & Promotional Entry on page Bhowmick by some Unregistered users. Few of them are, 223.184.108.204 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log), 117.240.185.132 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log), 27.56.118.187 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log).

HELP me to stop this disruptive editing and unethical addition on the page. These users need to be stopped or the page needs Semi-Protection. I really need your help and attention to look into this matter. Thanks in advance. Kolkata Talkies (talk) 19:02, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

  • @Titodutta: I did that again. I have done that many times, but unregistered users keep adding names (intentional advertising) repeatedly, which do not even have a page. I have no clue how to stop this menace. Can I ask you to do that ? Kolkata Talkies (talk) 19:39, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

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