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Nomination of Locations in His Dark Materials for deletion
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Locations in His Dark Materials until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.Promotion of List of World Heritage Sites in Botswana
Congratulations, Tone! The list you nominated, List of World Heritage Sites in Botswana, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Hey man im josh (talk) 13:26, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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Unprotect or move
Hello@Tone, I created a Draft and I think a reviewer is checking it but it seams protected and can only be created or moved by an admin, please assist on that, from what I see on his talk page, the protecting admin want someone or an admin who can assist, I thought it’s best to contact you sir, kindly check the article. Madeforall1 (talk) 14:31, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I see the review is already in process, so I think it is the best to wait until it finishes. I wouldn't want to interfere with someone else's work. Cheers! Tone 22:08, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don’t think so, it can’t be moved to mainspace without the help of an admin, please help with the unprotecion or move Madeforall1 (talk) 00:10, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- I see User:Dxneo is reviewing it. So I will wait until they remove the under review banner. If admin help is needed then, I'll be happy to remove the protection. Tone 07:31, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Madeforall1, thank you for approaching Tone. I am done cleaning and reviewing the draft, only thing left is unprotection as I've left that under review tag since I couldn't do anything after reviewing the draft. dxneo (talk) 09:46, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- I now see why the article was protected, it was under the sockpuppet investigation. In which case, I'll ask @Extraordinary Writ: to evaluate the situation as the user who protected it. Tone 09:55, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @Tone, I think the Unprotection is needed Here and not on the draft, this is where an admin can help. Madeforall1 (talk) 10:07, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Tone and Extraordinary Writ, if the sock is still ongoing, please deal with it accordingly and the IP too if possible, oh and protect the draft too. dxneo (talk) 10:17, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think Madeforall1 is related to the Wizkizayo SPI, although some sort of paid editing/COI is always a possibility. Most of the sources seem to be either interviews or thinly veiled promotion, but that's the reviewer's call, I guess; we can always sort things out at AfD later. (cc. Sir Sputnik, the protecting admin for DJ Kelblizz.) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 19:16, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Alright so what can we do @Extraordinary Writ, can you help with the unprotection on the Mainspace?, the protecting admin could be busy, I saw he wants other admin to evaluate. Or should I focus on other edits have been doing, I have other drafts in mind. Madeforall1 (talk) 19:31, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Madeforall1, Sir Sputnik will get to it when he gets time. dxneo (talk) 19:43, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- I've explained my position elsewhere. I don't know this subject area. To me the draft still looks quite similar to the article deleted, but given my lack of knowledge in this area, I appreciate that I might be missing some important details. I'm happy to defer to another administrator who knows more about this than I do. Failing that, it should probably just go to WP:DRV. Sir Sputnik (talk) 01:52, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Take it to DRV. It is the best approach that attracts more eyes to check. Tone 07:15, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- I've explained my position elsewhere. I don't know this subject area. To me the draft still looks quite similar to the article deleted, but given my lack of knowledge in this area, I appreciate that I might be missing some important details. I'm happy to defer to another administrator who knows more about this than I do. Failing that, it should probably just go to WP:DRV. Sir Sputnik (talk) 01:52, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Madeforall1, Sir Sputnik will get to it when he gets time. dxneo (talk) 19:43, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Alright so what can we do @Extraordinary Writ, can you help with the unprotection on the Mainspace?, the protecting admin could be busy, I saw he wants other admin to evaluate. Or should I focus on other edits have been doing, I have other drafts in mind. Madeforall1 (talk) 19:31, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think Madeforall1 is related to the Wizkizayo SPI, although some sort of paid editing/COI is always a possibility. Most of the sources seem to be either interviews or thinly veiled promotion, but that's the reviewer's call, I guess; we can always sort things out at AfD later. (cc. Sir Sputnik, the protecting admin for DJ Kelblizz.) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 19:16, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- I now see why the article was protected, it was under the sockpuppet investigation. In which case, I'll ask @Extraordinary Writ: to evaluate the situation as the user who protected it. Tone 09:55, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Madeforall1, thank you for approaching Tone. I am done cleaning and reviewing the draft, only thing left is unprotection as I've left that under review tag since I couldn't do anything after reviewing the draft. dxneo (talk) 09:46, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- I see User:Dxneo is reviewing it. So I will wait until they remove the under review banner. If admin help is needed then, I'll be happy to remove the protection. Tone 07:31, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don’t think so, it can’t be moved to mainspace without the help of an admin, please help with the unprotecion or move Madeforall1 (talk) 00:10, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
July 2024
Hi! This is regarding your revert on List of World Heritage Sites in India. My edits were of the following:
- Adding a newly listed site to the table (Maidam)
- Correction of links to the sites rather than pointing to the towns/cities e.g.Group of Monuments at Pattadakal and Group of Monuments at Hampi
- Addition of unlinked sites e.g. Cold desert or forts of Maharashtra
- Uniformity in linking. If Sun temple, Konark is linked fully not sure what is the issue with doing the same with Jantar Mantar, Jaipur or Humayun's Tomb, Delhi or Ranganathaswamy Temple, Srirangam.
- Other link changes
It would have been good if you had refrained from making wholesale reverts as the other edits have been undone as well (I don't see any issue with the first two at the very least!). If you have concerns regarding specific edits, only those could have been effected. If you could please explain your rationale or thoughts behind these (listed 1 to 5), would be happy to discuss it and will proceed if there is a consensus. Thanks! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 15:47, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, oops, I see that I accidentally reverted the moving of Maidam from the tentative list to the main one. The others were not optimal on your side. For example, the site name is Group of Monuments at Hampi while the target article is not Group of Monuments at Hampi but Hampi (click to check). One of the things featured list should follow is to avoid redirect links. So, as long as there is no dedicated link, just linking Hampi is better. Humayun's Tomb, the same. No need to link Delhi here because the site is Humayun's Tomb. "The Jantar Mantar, Jaipur" is actually the name of the site, and is linked correctly. Dholavira: a Harappan City, here Dholavira should be linked because it is the site, "a Harappan City" is a descriptor so it does not need a link (one could suggest to link the Indus Valley Civilisation here but this is what the last column is). The Sun Temple, you are right, this stands out, but it should actually be [Konark Sun Temple|Sun Temple]], Konârak. Group of Monuments at Mahabalipuram for example actually have an article with that name. I hope I explained the reasoning clearly enough :) Tone 16:51, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. Cheers! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 05:00, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
Revdel?
Hi Tone, you popped up as the most recently active admin - I am not sure whether the e-mail address in [1] needs a revdel or whether my redaction is sufficient. It doesn't look like an especially personal e-mail but I'm erring on the side of caution. Thanks for reading! StartGrammarTime (talk) 09:53, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hm, not sure what to do here, probably the best thing would be to talk to @Fade258: who assessed the article the previous time to see if the issues have been addressed? Tone 10:01, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I must have been unclear - I'm not concerned about the draft; the editor left an email address (Fade's) in their response. I've removed the address but wasn't sure if it needed to be properly hidden away or if just removing it from public view was sufficient. StartGrammarTime (talk) 16:28, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Huh, I see now. I am not really sure how to handle this. I could change revision visibility but there's history. I suppose check with someone with oversight credentials? Tone 21:24, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Tone:, I hope you're doing well. In response to your last message above, Can you please tell me why you want to talk with me? Did I done any mistake? Best Regards! Fade258 (talk) 14:33, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, it seems that you left your email exposed and StartGrammarTime expressed concern that you maybe didn't want to do it. Up to you, totally :) Tone 15:41, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I must have been unclear - I'm not concerned about the draft; the editor left an email address (Fade's) in their response. I've removed the address but wasn't sure if it needed to be properly hidden away or if just removing it from public view was sufficient. StartGrammarTime (talk) 16:28, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
Promotion of List of World Heritage Sites in Sudan
Congratulations, Tone! The list you nominated, List of World Heritage Sites in Sudan, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Hey man im josh (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Disambiguation link notification for August 2
An automated process has detected that when you recently edited List of World Heritage Sites in Russia, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Tethys.
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Administrators' newsletter – August 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2024).
Technical news
- Global blocks may now target accounts as well as IP's. Administrators may locally unblock when appropriate.
- Users wishing to permanently leave may now request "vanishing" via Special:GlobalVanishRequest. Processed requests will result in the user being renamed, their recovery email being removed, and their account being globally locked.
Arbitration
- The Arbitration Committee appointed the following administrators to the conflict of interest volunteer response team: Bilby, Extraordinary Writ
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Intangible Cultural Heritage lists
Hi, I notice that none of the Intangible Cultural Heritage lists (e.g. France) has been taken to FL. Are you interested? The first one can be used by others as a template to emulate. Btw, you really should setup auto archiving for your talk page. Ping me if I can help with either of those. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:07, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, can you help me with auto archiving? I was doing it manually with moving the content but some time ago it messed up the archive titles. Is there a bot?
- As for Intangible Cultural Heritage, yes, I was looking at it recently. Now there is already enough material to have proper lists on this front. I'll finish the WHS list for Brazil that I am currently working on, then I'll think of a good style for these lists :) Tone 10:14, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- I setup auto-archiving for this page. Yes, there is a bot which does this. It should do its run in 24-48 hours. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:41, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Awesome, thanks :) Tone 10:59, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- You must have noticed the edits that i made to the header of this page. Some of your archives have a space between the "Archive" and the number and some don't. Hopefully what I've done will fix the issue and allow the bot to archive at the right place in the future. If not, we'll have to move the older 4 archives to the new format. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:23, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! Tone 07:27, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- I think it is all fixed now. Older sections will be moved to the newest archive. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:29, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Great, appreciated :) I was looking at the intangible heritage lists and there are some different options to go ahead with them. I'll need some more reading first. I didn't forget ;) Tone 10:35, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think it is all fixed now. Older sections will be moved to the newest archive. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:29, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! Tone 07:27, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- You must have noticed the edits that i made to the header of this page. Some of your archives have a space between the "Archive" and the number and some don't. Hopefully what I've done will fix the issue and allow the bot to archive at the right place in the future. If not, we'll have to move the older 4 archives to the new format. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:23, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Awesome, thanks :) Tone 10:59, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- I setup auto-archiving for this page. Yes, there is a bot which does this. It should do its run in 24-48 hours. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:41, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
Promotion of List of World Heritage Sites in Argentina
Congratulations, Tone! The list you nominated, List of World Heritage Sites in Argentina, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Hey man im josh (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Following an RfC, there is a new criterion for speedy deletion: C4, which
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Wrestling...
Hey Tone,
My name is Mark Bland and I'm a pro-wrestler from St. Louis that is going into the St. Louis Indepedent Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame. A couple of friends noted I should be featured on Wikipedia. I told them I was at one time. When they went to try and figure it out, they said the page was deleted years ago. They showed me the stuff and it had a link to talk to who deleted the page.
I read on your profile if you are curious what was up or think it was done improperly, shoot you a message on your page and lets talk. So I am reaching out personally to find out what happened and if there is any way to fix it.
Thanks for your time and I look forward to hearing from you. s968339 (talk) 19:35, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi! I checked the history of Mark Bland and I see it was deleted in 2005 (wow, that's a long time ago). I bet things have changed since and it is time for reassessment. Ideally, bios are not written by individuals themselves but by someone else. I suggest the article is first written in the WP:Draft space and then evaluated, if all checks, it can be moved to the main space. Hope that helps :) Tone 19:58, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
Promotion of List of World Heritage Sites in Egypt
Congratulations, Tone! The list you nominated, List of World Heritage Sites in Egypt, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, PresN (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
James Earl Jones Closure
Hey, just wanted to pop over to discuss the JEJ blurb discussion closure. I understand, as an admin, it's within your discretion to rule that consensus will not form as you please, but I really can't help but think this just doesn't make any sense. From a quick look, there seem to have been 32 supports versus 15 opposes, and while I know we don't operate off a direct vote, I feel like closing a discussion with a better than 2:1 support:oppose ratio within 48 hours simply is way too prematurely quite frankly looks like a supervote. Not alleging intentional malfeasance or anything here, but I really think this discussion deserved more run. Thanks. DarkSide830 (talk) 01:40, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Feel free to reopen if you believe a strong consensus can be reached, no hard feelings on my side :) Tone 06:59, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Pats2017 (talk) 16:16, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- It was a good close. It’s just a shame StarWars fanboys insist that everyone connected to the film needs a blurb. Some of those support rationales are just woeful, which puts the 32 support votes into much clearer context. - SchroCat (talk) 21:12, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- There's no shame in pride. From the outside, looking in, sure, it can make one shake one's head. But once you're in (in any in-group), you're in it to win it. As a guy who hasn't watched Star Wars and sometimes feels weird about what he has seen, yeah, "a bit much". Kudos to them for trying, good close notwithstanding. The "real shame" (in my eye) is how we all tend to wait till our supposed heroes and legends have died before trying to give them props and screen time. I like Michael Keaton, Winona Ryder and Catherine O'Hara, personally. In "a perfect world", a recent movie about the recently deceased could have gone down as a newsworthy lifeline. C'est la vie, though, whatever happened happens. It was a pleasure (no sarcasm intended) reading that emotive dialogue about supervotes between you and Pats2017. Hope it's productive, and cheers all around. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:40, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Just realized you're all talking about the first close and I'm talking about the last one. I don't think it really matters, now. But yeah, in hindsight, the first one wasn't quite good enough to stay closed. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:44, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Promotion of List of World Heritage Sites in Brazil
Congratulations, Tone! The list you nominated, List of World Heritage Sites in Brazil, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Hey man im josh (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – October 2024
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- Administrator elections are a proposed new process for selecting administrators, offering an alternative to requests for adminship (RfA). The first trial election will take place in October 2024, with candidate sign-up from October 8 to 14, a discussion phase from October 22 to 24, and SecurePoll voting from October 25 to 31. For questions or to help out, please visit the talk page at Wikipedia talk:Administrator elections.
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- The arbitration case Historical elections has been closed.
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Promotion of List of World Heritage Sites in Ecuador
Congratulations, Tone! The list you nominated, List of World Heritage Sites in Ecuador, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Hey man im josh (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Promotion of List of World Heritage Sites in Senegal
Congratulations, Tone! The list you nominated, List of World Heritage Sites in Senegal, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Hey man im josh (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
This is Awkward (ᵕ—ᴗ—)
I feel really awkward asking this, but can I get a credit on my talk page for nominating this news item? ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ (PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ) 16:33, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- No problem at all, taking care of it now :) Tone 16:56, 10 October 2024 (UTC)