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Please Take a Look at Something I Am Working On...
editHello again. OK, I am working on the complete production history of Opera Carolina. I don't know if I will include it as a section in that article or I may decide it's big enough to become a separate page like List of Opera Carolina Productions. Anyhow, here it is: User:EricCable/OperaCarolina. I have the formatting the way I want, but have a lot of research to do before it is what I would consider complete. If you want, you can leave your comments here. Eric Cable | Talk 19:36, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
- Replied at User talk:EricCable/OperaCarolina. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:19, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Crimble
editThank you very much :-) One of my new year's resolutions will / might be to work more methodically and effectively.... There is something very purifying about depuffing something. My Christmas was be laden with music, including, at about 11.25am, this. May Santa bring you the box sets and DVDs of your dreams almost-instinct 11:55, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you
editSee User talk:Voceditenore/Archive 3#Presents
- And a happy holiday to you as well. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:34, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks...
edit... for the Trafalgar Square photo of 64 years ago - takes me back to the days of London smog! Just off to collect the goose ("God bless us, every one") and hope you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.. --GuillaumeTell 11:14, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
- And I'll add my thanks for your kind Christmas greetings. Merry Christmas to you too! I greatly enjoy the "labour of love" that is the Wiki Project Opera and know that, when I look at the "hit counter" (which may be found at http://stats.grok.se/ ) what we all write gets read, especially when it comes to rarely performed operas. That's the reason I expanded the Maometto II last summer for Santa Fe and the Belisario article in Sept/Oct when it was given in concert form at the Barbican. (Even saw two people at the performance who had copies with them!). I shall be doing the same for L'assedio di Calais before I see it at one of English Touring Opera's Spring 2013 presentations. Viva-Verdi (talk) 18:40, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Early greetings for the new year
editBest Wishes for a Happy New Year! May 2013 bring you rewarding experiences and an abundance of everything you most treasure. Cynwolfe (talk) 17:01, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
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Here's hoping we find time to return to the women's history project this year. Cynwolfe (talk) 17:01, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Missing articles
editCreated all article requests at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera. Feel free to help expand. Best if they were removed and a new set of requests added..♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 12:43, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
- Many thanks! I've left them up with an explanatory note so we can banner them and possibly add some extra sources to aid future editors who may want to expand them. After a week or so I'll archive them and replace with any new requests from members. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:32, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Infobox theatre
editI tried to fix the template, did it work? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:52, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you, Gerda. it didn't work, but it gave me clue of how to fix it. Now it works :) Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:04, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
- Fine. I didn't know where to check. - You are welcome to look at Template:Infobox Bach composition (under construction), applied at some sample pages listed in the documentation, and to comment, for example parameters that should appear, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:04, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Ewa Podleś
editDear Voceditenore
I don't know how to talk to you, so I try to write something here. If this is not appropriate, I am sorry for this and beg your forgiven.
To specify the vocal range of a contralto is necessary, and what I wrote is true. Everyone can find her A2 to Eb6 in her DVD of Gaetano Donizetti' La Fille du régiment. And there was a record published on the Warsaw Insider noted that Ewa Podleś once showed a musical scale from E6 down to E2 durning rehearsals.
I just want to introduce more information to others. I wish I could get your understanding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.149.170.53 (talk) 07:38, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hello and thank you for getting in touch. The problem with the information you are trying to add is that it needs a published reference to verify it. We don't publish "what we know" (or our personal opinions) on Wikipedia. We publish information that other reliable sources have already written about a subject. The material you have been edit-warring to add has no reliable reference and therefore does not belong in a Wikipedia article. If you want to share this information with others, then I suggest you start a blog instead. You also have to realize that Wikipedia is a collaborative project. Three different editors have explained why your edits are inappropriate and needed to be removed or modified. Instead of discussing it with the rest of us on Talk:Ewa Podleś, you simply re-added the material and and/or blindly reverted the other three editors time and time again, using multiple IPs to continue edit-warring. That is why [citation needed] has been placed in the article next to the material you added. If you do not supply a reliable source for the "information", it will be removed by other editors. I suggest you now go to Talk:Ewa Podleś and discuss the issue with them there. Voceditenore (talk) 17:11, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your constructive engagement! Regards, Ariconte (talk) 08:38, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Romeo and Juliet
editSorry about that Romeo and Juliet] error. Would you be able to take a look at my edits to {{Twelfth Night}}, {{The Tempest}}, {{King Lear}}, {{Julius Caesar}} and {{Othello}}.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 08:58, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
- {{Twelfth Night}} (OK)
- {{The Tempest}} (I've fixed several errors)
- {{King Lear}} (OK)
- {{Julius Caesar}} (OK, but the heading "Large portions" may not be the most apt although I didn't change it)
- {{Othello}} (OK)
- I was thinking you were a Shakespeare guy. I see you are an opera guy. I was editing way out of my element last night. I am really mostly a sports guy. If you could lend your eyes to some of my broader edits last night it would be great:
- {{Rigoletto}}
- {{Pagliacci}}
- {{Aida}}
- {{The Merry Wives of Windsor}}
- {{Wuthering Heights}}
- {{Alice}}
- --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:47, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, I'm an "opera gal", but never mind. I'll have a look at these tomorrow. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 16:54, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
- {{Rigoletto}} OK but I re-labelled one of the Groups, and made a formatting change, see my comment at the end
- {{Pagliacci}} OK
- {{Aida}} OK
- {{The Merry Wives of Windsor}} OK
- {{Wuthering Heights}} OK
- {{Alice}} OK
- I've checked the opera ones, e.g. {{Rigoletto}} to make sure that the various adaptations, related, etc. really were. I checked the source work ones, e.g. {{Alice}} to make sure that any operas listed had indeed used it as the source for the libretto, but I didn't check the non-opera listings. No doubt someone associated with articles in those areas will eventually discover any discrepancies/errors. I did notice that for these templates in general, there isn't a lot of consistency re the group headings, the way the links are piped, and their formatting. The only one I fixed was Rigoletto where you had "La donna è mobile" listed under "Works", but in {{Carmen}} and at least one other, you list individual arias under "Music", so I relabelled that group. Note also that arias should go in " ", not italics. I also fixed that for Rigoletto, but you might want to go through the other templates for operas that you've created and check that arias are properly presented, and any other inconsistencies in the group labels, e.g. the discographies are sometimes listed under "Related" and sometimes under "Music". Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:58, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
- You mentioned {{Carmen}}. Did you take a look at that one too? What about my other Opera templates {{The Magic Flute}}, {{Madama Butterfly}}, {{The Tales of Hoffmann}}, {{Tommy}}? Oh wait, you are only checking for operas. Off the top of my head, the ones with many operas that I have created are {{Ivanhoe}} and {{Cinderella}}.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:16, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
- I'd already checked Carmen and Madama Butterfly a while back and removed several errors. I'll take a look at some of the others when I get a chance. However, the important thing is to actually read the articles very carefully and make sure that it would be accurate to list them in a particular template rather than simply going by their title or vague plot similarities. Voceditenore (talk) 09:39, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
- You mentioned {{Carmen}}. Did you take a look at that one too? What about my other Opera templates {{The Magic Flute}}, {{Madama Butterfly}}, {{The Tales of Hoffmann}}, {{Tommy}}? Oh wait, you are only checking for operas. Off the top of my head, the ones with many operas that I have created are {{Ivanhoe}} and {{Cinderella}}.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:16, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, I'm an "opera gal", but never mind. I'll have a look at these tomorrow. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 16:54, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for spending some time this week to look more closely at the templates I have thrown together. Since we I last talked to you, I have created {{Parsifal}}, {{Der Ring des Nibelungen}}, {{Don Giovanni}}, {{Turandot}} as well as {{Giuseppe Verdi}}, {{George Frideric Handel}}, {{Antonio Vivaldi}}, {{Gioachino Rossini}}, {{Maurice Ravel}}, {{Johann Strauss II}}, {{Claudio Monteverdi}} and {{Claude Debussy}}. I will soon deploy {{Arnold Schoenberg}}. Also be on the lookout for {{Modest Mussorgsky}}.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:18, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
- P.S. when you make an edit like this, make sure to remove the template from the article that you have taken out of the template.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:38, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant to move it to "Related", not delete it from template completely. I've re-added it to the template under "Related" and re-added the template to the article. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 09:15, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
- Just drafted a new batch: {{Salvadore Cammarano}}, {{Medea}} and {{Metastasio}}.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:23, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant to move it to "Related", not delete it from template completely. I've re-added it to the template under "Related" and re-added the template to the article. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 09:15, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Important/Popular operas
editI'd like to create a lot more useful templates. Is there a list of the most important operas, longest-running opera productions, most widely-produced operas?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:35, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
- Suggestions...
- This page lists the top 50 operas in terms of number of performances (as of 2012)
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera/Popular pages lists the top 500 pages bannered by WikiProject opera in terms of number of page views.
- List of important operas is probably less help, as it's very lengthy and contains many operas which are important in terms of music scholarship, but not necessarily "important" to the general public or even still performed. It was compiled by consulting nine lists of great operas, created by recognized authorities in the field, and selecting all of the operas which appeared on at least five of these lists.
- Best, Voceditenore (talk) 09:49, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
Please lend us a tenner a tenor your expertise. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:08, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
- Grazie! --Orange Mike | Talk 15:19, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
date and date
edit"What else is an infobox but a table that consolidates information covered in the main text?" You asked, I tried to explain just below your post, - a bit tired of repeating that a date can be just a string or (better) have day/month/year as separate entities to work on, calculate, format in different languages, called "granular", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:08, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- Gerda, I had read your explanation which was there long before I made my comment. There is absolutely nothing about the granularity of the date that changes the fact that the infobox is still a table covering material already in the article. In my view, a well-written lede will contain the person's age at death, and I always include it. How old a living person is on any particular day is utterly trivial information, in my view and can be roughly deduced by anyone who cares about it from a quick perusal of the DoB. More importantly, the discussion there is about whether collapsed infoboxes are acceptable. The "granular" information is still there, whether they are collapsed or not, hence that is not a pertinent argument for that discussion. More importantly, infoboxes are not required on Wikipedia, collapsed or otherwise. Nor are they required by our guidelines on accessibility. Nor is collapsing them in whole or in part "forbidden" by our guidelines on accessibility. Nor are they required for providing either Wikidata or metadata. Nor does collapsing them affect the transmission of Wikidata or metadata for articles which already have an infobox. I think quite a few people at the discussion are getting tired of having to repeat that as well. :-) Voceditenore (talk) 12:48, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't think you read what I wanted to be understood - my language problem? -, because the difference is that (at least now) we don't have the granular information elsewhere than in an infobox, - I could imagine to have in a future a function with an invisible keyword in the text. - The age is trivial, of course, but an example that you can calculate/compare/sort, if you have a date granular. You can take it to other languages with different formatting. Why not make it available? - Yes I know the discussion started to be about collapsible, but it did not stay in that focus ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:08, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- No, I understood what you said perfectly. The point is, that collapsing an infobox does not affect the availability or transportability of that information. In my view, the MoS discussion should stay on its original focus, collapsed infoboxes. Bringing in arguments as to why every article should have an infobox is no more helpful to that discussion than are arguments as to why articles should not have infoboxes at all. I have been very careful there to make sure my comments are strictly related to the actual topic of the discussion. Voceditenore (talk) 13:25, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- Understand. I was perhaps tempted to much to contradict those who deviated, especially when it questioned peoply, Moxy, for example. 90% personal stories dating back to 2008 - how can I complain about being tired ;) - reminds me to put "ban complaining" back on my user page as motto of the year, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:18, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- No, I understood what you said perfectly. The point is, that collapsing an infobox does not affect the availability or transportability of that information. In my view, the MoS discussion should stay on its original focus, collapsed infoboxes. Bringing in arguments as to why every article should have an infobox is no more helpful to that discussion than are arguments as to why articles should not have infoboxes at all. I have been very careful there to make sure my comments are strictly related to the actual topic of the discussion. Voceditenore (talk) 13:25, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't think you read what I wanted to be understood - my language problem? -, because the difference is that (at least now) we don't have the granular information elsewhere than in an infobox, - I could imagine to have in a future a function with an invisible keyword in the text. - The age is trivial, of course, but an example that you can calculate/compare/sort, if you have a date granular. You can take it to other languages with different formatting. Why not make it available? - Yes I know the discussion started to be about collapsible, but it did not stay in that focus ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:08, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- Gerda, I had read your explanation which was there long before I made my comment. There is absolutely nothing about the granularity of the date that changes the fact that the infobox is still a table covering material already in the article. In my view, a well-written lede will contain the person's age at death, and I always include it. How old a living person is on any particular day is utterly trivial information, in my view and can be roughly deduced by anyone who cares about it from a quick perusal of the DoB. More importantly, the discussion there is about whether collapsed infoboxes are acceptable. The "granular" information is still there, whether they are collapsed or not, hence that is not a pertinent argument for that discussion. More importantly, infoboxes are not required on Wikipedia, collapsed or otherwise. Nor are they required by our guidelines on accessibility. Nor is collapsing them in whole or in part "forbidden" by our guidelines on accessibility. Nor are they required for providing either Wikidata or metadata. Nor does collapsing them affect the transmission of Wikidata or metadata for articles which already have an infobox. I think quite a few people at the discussion are getting tired of having to repeat that as well. :-) Voceditenore (talk) 12:48, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Checking in on the Teacher Quality Assessment page
editHi voceditenore, It looks like the rfc on the Teacher Quality Assessment page has left it stuck in limbo. I'm fine with your edits, can we get the page moved? Thanks, Douglarkin (talk) 20:06, 25 March 2013 (UTC)douglarkin
- Replied at your talk page [1]. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:07, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
L'arpa?
editL'Arpa festante is the name of the article, our conductor says it's L'arpa festante, sources differ, what would you say? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:26, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
- I moved it to L'arpa festante per the capitalisation used on their recordings and by Carus-Verlag, their publisher. I also cleaned up the rather strange English and added a bit. I'll see if I can do a brief bio of Giovanni Battista Maccioni who wrote L'arpa festante, after which the ensemble was named. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 06:49, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you, very helpful! - One recording (Telemann, mentioned on Berthold Possemeyer) has all all caps, that made me question. They will go lc on our poster of the Mass in B minor, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:04, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
- For Easter I found the opera, thank you for that great article, also for the inventive samples on {{Infobox opera}}! May I use them on 1 April? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:46, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- I didn't make that example. Andy Mabbett did. I just corrected his Italian. Umm... where do you intend to use it for April 1st? Voceditenore (talk) 14:57, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- It looked so operatic, I didn't check the history. Andy has more talents than I knew so far. - I thought of the top of the project talk, Did you know ... that John Smith's Il diavolo di Wikipedia (The Demon Editor of Wikipedia) premiered on 18 March 2013? - but I will find something real ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:13, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- How about...
- Did you know that L'infobox infernale (The Hellish Infobox), an opera semiseria in 25 acts, is the longest running opera ever staged on Wikipedia?
- Best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:28, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- Interesting. I don't like the link to a picture, isn't that misleading? Instead, you could link to one of the highly operatic discussions (recent: Bach, Sparrow Mass, but an old one would be preferable, to substantiate the claim) ;) - You can do it, my experience is too limited, I added my first infobox only last year, - we sang the Sparrow Mass today,- happy Easter! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:40, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, I wasn't serious about using it as a DYK, but I thought the whole point of April Fool jokes was to be misleading. Anyhow, the "opera semiseria" has been performed on Wikipedia since at least 2005, but probably longer. And, no, linking to a current discussion is not a good idea. Happy Easter to you too! Voceditenore (talk) 16:35, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- I was also not serious, not even semi ;) - Seriously, if those who like infoboxes could add them to "their" articles and those who don't leave "theirs" without, a lot more energy could be devoted to actually writing articles. Instead, look at the poor Sparrow, 3RR, block, article protected, poor main editor can't improve it, - better no comment, and keep singing. - 1 April: I like tomorrow's featured article! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:47, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- Ah, but that would lead to an immediate rendition of the opera's most famous chorus, "Nessuno è padrone delle voci!". Voceditenore (talk) 17:17, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- I don't like OWN, am open for improvements, just thanked Andy for an infobox for a new one I had no time for yet, but don't consider to be reverted with no reason given (s. Sparrow) as an improvement, - I don't have a good line for that lamento ready, you will ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:27, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- Ah, but that would lead to an immediate rendition of the opera's most famous chorus, "Nessuno è padrone delle voci!". Voceditenore (talk) 17:17, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- I was also not serious, not even semi ;) - Seriously, if those who like infoboxes could add them to "their" articles and those who don't leave "theirs" without, a lot more energy could be devoted to actually writing articles. Instead, look at the poor Sparrow, 3RR, block, article protected, poor main editor can't improve it, - better no comment, and keep singing. - 1 April: I like tomorrow's featured article! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:47, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, I wasn't serious about using it as a DYK, but I thought the whole point of April Fool jokes was to be misleading. Anyhow, the "opera semiseria" has been performed on Wikipedia since at least 2005, but probably longer. And, no, linking to a current discussion is not a good idea. Happy Easter to you too! Voceditenore (talk) 16:35, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- Interesting. I don't like the link to a picture, isn't that misleading? Instead, you could link to one of the highly operatic discussions (recent: Bach, Sparrow Mass, but an old one would be preferable, to substantiate the claim) ;) - You can do it, my experience is too limited, I added my first infobox only last year, - we sang the Sparrow Mass today,- happy Easter! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:40, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- It looked so operatic, I didn't check the history. Andy has more talents than I knew so far. - I thought of the top of the project talk, Did you know ... that John Smith's Il diavolo di Wikipedia (The Demon Editor of Wikipedia) premiered on 18 March 2013? - but I will find something real ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:13, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- I didn't make that example. Andy Mabbett did. I just corrected his Italian. Umm... where do you intend to use it for April 1st? Voceditenore (talk) 14:57, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- For Easter I found the opera, thank you for that great article, also for the inventive samples on {{Infobox opera}}! May I use them on 1 April? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:46, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you, very helpful! - One recording (Telemann, mentioned on Berthold Possemeyer) has all all caps, that made me question. They will go lc on our poster of the Mass in B minor, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:04, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
The lament would be " L'infobox mi fu rapito, Ahime!" - Voceditenore (talk) 17:48, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- quanto dolore ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:08, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Category: José Cura
editHelo Voceditenore.
You recently removed my categorizing José Cura as a Spanish singer. You may wish to know that he is of Argentinean AND Spanish descent, and holds both nationalities. You may want to check the reference attached to the nationality section in his infobox, where he is referred in an article published by the Efe agency and the Eldiario.es periodical as "hispanoargentino" (Spanish/Argentinean).
I understand you're only trying to make sure the information isn't incorrect, and I appreciate this. But it is a fact that he is, indeed, Spanish as well.
Thank you.
ManukaFonsworth — Preceding unsigned comment added by ManukaFonsworth (talk • contribs) 11:02, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
- Fair enough, although there should be no biographical information in the infobox that is not in the article. Likewise, the citation belongs in the article, not in the infobox. Voceditenore (talk) 11:08, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Oh I see so there should be an entry in the main article saying José Cura is an Argentine-Spanish singer, and the reference should be there, not in the infobox.
Gotcha. Thanks! I'll get to fixing this pronto.
Carmen infobox
editI have left some comments and suggestions here. I hope you'll have time to look at these before your trip, which I hope will be as exciting as it sounds. Safe journey. Brianboulton (talk) 22:24, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, Brian. They were very helpful. I've responded to your comments, mostly just to clarify a couple of things. All the best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:06, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Lifting the Gibraltar DYK restrictions
editA couple of months ago, you opposed a proposal to lift the restrictions on Gibraltar-related DYKs, which were imposed in September 2012. Could you possibly clarify (1) under what conditions you would support a lifting of the restrictions, and (2) when you think it would be appropriate to lift the restrictions? Prioryman (talk) 20:19, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry for the late reply, I've been away for two weeks. Lifting all the restrictions currently in place should not happen for at least 12 months after they were first imposed, and possibly 24 months considering how seriously the Gibraltarpedia DYK drive impacted on Wikipedia's reputation. The current restrictions to one article per day are not onerous. That's still potentially 30 articles per month. The two reviewer requirement with emphasis on checking for COI or promotionalism is also prudent. Voceditenore (talk) 16:58, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
Baganwala jind
editBaganwala jind | |
Hi.. i want to tell you that article Baganwala Jind- its having different distt the existing article in Bhiwani and and i am looking for approval its located in distt Jind . if not clear kindly refer the google map for the same 18jitu (talk) 09:47, 12 April 2013 (UTC) |
- I'm sorry, but I'm unclear what exactly you are asking about. Your draft at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Baganwala, Jind was declined by another editor because it had no references. All articles on Wikipedia must have at least one published source to verify the contents of the article. Your draft still has no sources and will not be accepted. Are you saying that the village in your draft is the same one as Baganwala, but that the article has wrongly listed the district as Bhiwani instead of Jind? Or are you saying that there are two different villages with the same name in Haryana State, one in Jind district and one in Bhiwani district? In either case, I suggest you ask for help at Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 16:24, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
- sir, Right there are two different village one in Bhiwani district and second in Jind district, If you want to conform kindly check out at google map the exact location of the same. Bhiwani district village baganwala already publish on wikipedia but Jind district village is still pending. you can also find the more info about same. Looking for your valuable reply as soon as possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18jitu (talk • contribs) 04:48, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
- OK, if they're two different villages, then they should be separate articles and I'll fix my comment at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Baganwala, Jind. But the article that you have pending there will never be approved until you add references to reliable published sources. WP:VERIFY has guidance on this. If you need help finding sources, I suggest you enquire at [[Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics]. Someone there may be able to help you. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 16:42, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
sir if i suggest you google map for lactation and when u find this you will also see some more details .if its not not complete info please suggest me the right way.looking for your reply ..!!
Sir, i add the reference for the same, i add link and you can see after the visit the name of the village. If you satisfy with this reference kindly approve the same and if you are not and please update me.......looking for your reply..thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18jitu (talk • contribs) 05:07, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
Grove Music
editHowdy, Voceditenore. :) Do you happen to have access to Grove Music Online? This being an area of interest to you, I'm hopeful. We've got an article flagged as a copyvio (Şerban Nichifor) that is strongly contested, and I can't see it. (I mean that literally - this is not a veiled "I don't find copying" comment. :D) Likewise, Liana Alexandra. (See Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2013 January 30) If you are able to compare the content, that would be fabulous; if not, I'll be off on a quest to find somebody uninvolved who can review that material. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 10:57, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
- Followed up at your talk page [2]. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 16:37, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Original username
editHi, Voceditenore, I like your username very much: Voce di tenore :-) Lotje (talk) 08:50, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi voceditenore Dinesh Subasinghe was the leader of Preamsirri Khemadasas orchestra,watch the Agni Picture and compoare this picture same violinist is playing,please help tp get the picture on profile
please check these pictures,and please re paste it to my page,thank you, can re edit the caption if its a mistake — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musiclanka (talk • contribs) 15:41, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- Replied at your talk page [3]. - Voceditenore (talk) 16:51, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
hi Thank you very much ,agreed, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musiclanka (talk • contribs) 16:47, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi Voceditenore music lanka requests
editplease help me to add Dinesh Subasinghe only on Ravanahatha page and Oratorio wikipedia pages,
please check these terms on the internet
- on google when you type Dinesh subasinghe Ravanahatha
- on google when you type Buddhist oratorio
he has spend his young life to bring these subjects,i have met this composer few times and watch his musical voyage,please help me to write his two main projects he has done on Ravanahatha and Oratorio,please send me an answer,regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musiclanka (talk • contribs) 16:58, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- Please take these requests to Talk:Oratorio and Talk:Ravanahatha. That is where these issues should be discussed as I have already pointed out to you on your talk page. Voceditenore (talk) 17:05, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Music Lanka request
edithi Voceditenore i request on talk pages as u mentioned but didnt get there feed back,what should i do, please give me a sugetion 'thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musiclanka (talk • contribs) 16:58, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- You have a response at Talk:Ravanahatha. The issue at Talk:Oratorio is still under discussion. However, I have added Karuna Nadee to the newly created article List of oratorios. You need to have patience. The rest of us are working on many other articles on Wikipedia and many of us live in different time zones. There is absolutely nothing urgent about this. Voceditenore (talk) 16:52, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
E kale the one edit
editplease help me to edit E kale the one page i that i created thanx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musiclanka (talk • contribs) 03:24, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
- I don't have the time now, as I am working on several other articles. I may be able to get to it next week. But I can assure you that bringing the article in its current state into any kind of compliance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines will mean cutting out at least 50% of it and drastically copy-editing the rest. You might get some help by posting at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sri Lanka. - Voceditenore (talk) 16:59, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Musiclanka thanks
editThank you very much for the suport,Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musiclanka (talk • contribs) 05:17, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Music Lanka request
editso what should i do ,can i remove that image?please check Rawan Nada now.please give me an instruction ,is it appropriate now? Musiclanka. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musiclanka (talk • contribs) 06:05, 15 May 2013
- I have replied at Talk:Rawan Nada. I gave you guidance pages to read and a link to the help desk at Commons. That is where you should ask any further questions. Also, will you please learn how to sign your messages properly. See WP:SIGN for instructions. Voceditenore (talk) 06:25, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Music lanka removed the picture
editHi i admire your help and giving me advices ,temporrly until i study well wikipedia policies im gonna stop uploading pics and editing data on pages,i have removed the picture that you told it has problems File:Rawana nada album cover.JPG ,if this is ok,please post it on infobox at Rawan Nada album page.Regards talk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musiclanka (talk • contribs) 06:46, 15 May 2013
- No, it's not OK. It has the same problems as the one that was deleted and for the reasons I explained at Talk:Rawan Nada. I will not re-add it. Voceditenore (talk) 06:56, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
What a nice surprise, that musical church! - I am not happy with the present "German: Andreaskirche". Yes, there are several "some-saint's-kirche", but in most cases (and in this one) that is a little sloppy abbreviation, the official name is typically "St. some-saint", as here: "Dominikanerkirche St. Andreas". We don't have to make sloppiness official ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:48, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
- I was just going by what German Wikipedia had and thought you had removed it by mistake. Go ahead and change it (or remove it), whatever you think best. Voceditenore (talk) 11:56, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
- I will leave it for the moment, as I received a comment towards "more English names" on my talk. - I know that our concert posters have "St. Martin" as the name, and "Martinskirche" is not even unofficially used, but I guess that may vary, by region and denomination, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:09, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
- Well, I wondered about that too, but the church names on English Wikipedia articles are wildly inconsistent, e.g. Église Saint-Georges (uses French name), Cathedral of Our Lady of Guadeloupe, Basse-Terre (uses the English translation of the French name), Santa Maria de Ripoll (uses the Catalan name), Trinità dei Monti (uses a shortened version of the Italian name), and Archbasilica of St. John Lateran (uses the English translation of the Italian name), etc. etc. I'm not really fussed one way or another. Voceditenore (talk) 12:40, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
- Nor am I. It's not "The Flying Dutchman" where I still think the work should be named as its creator called it. ("Nenne mich so, wie du willst, daß ich heiße.") - In this case, I like to have the name similar in both languages and still recognizable. A little bit of internationality doesn't hurt, and we don't have a common name for this church that was not even known at all to the English Wikipedia so far, - thanks for changing that! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:01, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
- Well, I wondered about that too, but the church names on English Wikipedia articles are wildly inconsistent, e.g. Église Saint-Georges (uses French name), Cathedral of Our Lady of Guadeloupe, Basse-Terre (uses the English translation of the French name), Santa Maria de Ripoll (uses the Catalan name), Trinità dei Monti (uses a shortened version of the Italian name), and Archbasilica of St. John Lateran (uses the English translation of the Italian name), etc. etc. I'm not really fussed one way or another. Voceditenore (talk) 12:40, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
- I will leave it for the moment, as I received a comment towards "more English names" on my talk. - I know that our concert posters have "St. Martin" as the name, and "Martinskirche" is not even unofficially used, but I guess that may vary, by region and denomination, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:09, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Two more articles which could use your help
editHello,
Thank you for your clean up on Don Bosco Bandel. Could I also request you to look at Don Bosco Liluah and Don Bosco Park Circus, both of which suffer from similar issues?
Thanks a lot for your help, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 18:44, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- My pleasure! I'll have a look at both of those tomorrow. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:55, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- Hello,
- I just noticed that there were some new accounts removing a lot of possibly valid information from the Don Bosco Liluah article too. Could you please look into it, and re-add anything thats necessary? (For example the heads of the institution needs to be re-added)
- TheOriginalSoni (talk) 07:42, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
- Please also ping me when/if you're done. I note a mass removal of information (from the new users under question) thats certainly valid to the article IMO. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 10:25, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
- Hi. I've pretty much finished with Don Bosco High & Technical School, Liluah. Feel free to tweak it. I went through and re-added most of the material that had been removed by the sockpuppet brigade, although I pruned it down considerably and copyedited it. I drastically truncated the Church section—it was blatant copyvio. See Talk:Don Bosco High & Technical School, Liluah for more. I'll have a go at Don Bosco Park Circus in the next couple of days. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:09, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
Help Please....
editHi,....this message is being written after noticing your username at the talk page of the article a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G_S_Pradeep,....if u hav nothing to do with this,...I am sorry,...)),. I was editing this article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G_S_Pradeep and noticed some 'copy-pasting' done from https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/muslimsangamam/ctAVVr5Ggec ,I edited a few of those without knowing that they were 'copy-pasted' but since i noticed it ,...i thought of reporting it,....is THIS THE RIGHT PLACE TO REPORT ?? Is editing the 'copy-pasted' parts vandalism, by any chance?? please help,..I am new to this.....:( and could u reply at MY talk page?? Andrewthomas310 (talk) 17:24, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
- Replied at your talk page. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:22, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Thank U
editfor sparing your time.......:) Andrewthomas310 (talk) 07:08, 21 June 2013 (UTC) |
Seed Global Health
editWhat I did originally wasn't actually a history merge; I was just correcting a system bug whereby a page that gets turned into a redirect sometimes starts getting erroneously picked up as an uncategorized article. However, following your comment to my talk page I did histmerge the two articles — so everything's back to normal now, and thanks for the heads up. Bearcat (talk) 08:49, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
Potential copyright problem
editAn editor has raised a copyright problem here on the Chevron article, where it appears that someone from the company has sprinkled copyrighted material from the company website throughout the article in a way that may be difficult to detect and correct through the entire page. I'm not sure what to do about it and I'm betting we have some kind of copyright-checker tool that might help identify all of it?
A while back you fixed the copyright issue on the public relations article and I thought maybe you could help. CorporateM (Talk) 21:33, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
- Replied at Talk:Chevron Corporation#Tackling the issues. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 12:56, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. It should be easier to cleanup thanks to your links. It was brought up in relation to this COI submissions page I drafted. Slim and Core raised opposition to the idea of drafted materials that are copy-pasted in. I've created GAs following that process in a PR role, but they raised this as an (apparently valid) counter-example. CorporateM (Talk) 17:58, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks!
editHi Voce, Thanks for all the help yesterday. I think I had been editing for such a while, and got very tired. You really came to my rescue! --Robert.Allen (talk) 19:51, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
Baroque
editEnjoy your vacation! - I came to ask you to look if I got your plurals right in this table. I guess we should specify somehow what to prefer ;) - take your time, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:18, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
Greetings, can you help with this?
editHi, I do not know if you are one of the editors familiar with adding IPA pronunciation to biography pages.. the editors who have assisted me in past years with such issues no longer come to mind. Sigh. I am hoping you might be able to help and correctly add that to the lead of the article for Michael Oher, whose name is pronounced 'Oar. For an example, see the lead of the biography of Rory Gallagher. If this is not your kind of expertise, is it possible for you to ask around and find an editor who can help? Thanks, of course for your time.. either way, it's always nice to meet another editor! --Leahtwosaints (talk) 13:27, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Leah, nice to meet you. :-) If his last name is pronounced like "oar" (as in the thing you row a boat with) then the IPA would be: /ɔːr/ (no need for a stress mark as it's only one syllable). Best, Voceditenore (talk) 13:49, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- I went ahead and added it to the article. I've never done that before and the template is quite fiddly, so check that it's OK). Best, Voceditenore (talk) 14:02, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- Looks great! Last time I asked for such a thing, it was for the biography of Rory Gallagher, if you wish to prepare notes, but this is a vast improvement from finding HIS NAME IS OAR jammed into the reference section right under the {{Reflist}}!! Thanks! ;) --Leahtwosaints (talk) 20:24, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for helping with this. See User talk:Black Kite#User:Michał Sobkowski. INeverCry 16:41, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- I'm glad I could help. The person stalking him is a nasty piece of business :/ Voceditenore (talk) 17:39, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
RfC on title of Sarah Brown (wife of Gordon Brown)
editHi, this is to let everyone who commented in the last RM know that there's another RM/RfC here, in case you'd like to comment again. Best, SlimVirgin (talk) 19:12, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Bluthochzeit
editCan you deal with a question raised in the nom? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:05, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm really sorry, but I had to revert your edit as I had just added a third source, and spent an hour staring at Fraktur. I wanted to use the German spellings of the names.
As for the table itself, black on grey has some readability issues, and I'd like to avoid adding voice type as a table category until such time as we have at least one sourced. Adam Cuerden (talk) 06:07, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- I don't know what you're seeing on your browser, but the "grey" on mine is so pale it's barely distinguishable from the white background. It's far paler than the grey in the navbox, and is the standard colour (if you can call it that) for the headings on just about every table on Wikipedia. It's also possible to simply remove the voice column from the table:
Role Premiere cast, 6 March 1853[1]
(Conductor: Gaetano Mares)Violetta Valéry, a courtesan Fanny Salvini-Donatelli
- ^ Budden 1992, p. 114.
- The arrangement you have is not optimal in my view and is a completely different format from every other opera article, but if that's what you want...
- Voceditenore (talk) 06:17, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- Quite happy to restore the table; it was actually that I had changed about 60% of the content that was in the table. As for the grey colour, it varies based on where I am relative to the screen.Adam Cuerden (talk) 06:24, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- Fatinitza#Roles How's that? Adam Cuerden (talk) 06:33, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- Looks OK to me. Voceditenore (talk) 09:24, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Authority and conflict
editI have received this from u , i think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Laurencebeck#Your_edits_to_Norman_Lebrecht
Please read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Louis_Gates_arrest_controversy
A story of misapprehension of proposals of authority
It is not possible to know on Wikipedia who is an authority or a mere well meaning person or a passing irritant.
You have in the message top here placed where you advantage yourself of the statement re commencement of edit-war.
However once stated, a person's wiki authority is known and to re-edit and re-edit up to three times would offend you.
It is not known who anyone else is or their responsibility.
regards, --Laurencebeck (talk) 04:34, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- As I said on your talk page, the appropriate course of action when you have been reverted by an editor, and in this case by three separate editors, is to take the issue to the article's talk page rather than engage in an edit war. Voceditenore (talk) 04:45, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Are these people editors or contributors?
- You have declared yourself . . the others have , did not .
- This is like driving on the road . . where are the lines drawn to be seen before upsetting authority occurs?
- --Laurencebeck (talk) 04:53, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- This is not about the relative "authority" of the editors who have reverted you. It is about Wikipedia policy which forbids editwarring, regardless of who does it, except in very limited circumstances. I have warned you that you are about to cross the "bright line" of 3 reverts in 24 hours. You have obviously read it, so feel free to remove it from your talk page. I have no intention of discussing your editorial disputes any further on my talk page. If you have an editorial dispute, then take it to Talk:Norman Lebrecht. – Voceditenore (talk) 05:28, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Just a brief note about a couple of minor points. --Folantin (talk) 08:48, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Off by 3
editI think you may have meant this in your submisssion. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 09:42, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
- I did. Thanks for that. I was all diffed-out by then. Fixed now. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:12, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Chhattisgarh Swami Vivekanand Technical University
editOn 18 August 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Chhattisgarh Swami Vivekanand Technical University, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Chhattisgarh Swami Vivekanand Technical University has affiliations with more than 60 engineering colleges and 30 polytechnic colleges in Chhattisgarh, India? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Chhattisgarh Swami Vivekanand Technical University. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Alex ShihTalk 12:04, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- All I did was add a notice to the temporary page where this article was being re-written. I appreciate the thought, but I shouldn't receive any credit for this DYK. Voceditenore (talk) 14:09, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
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