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Drafts

Thanks for adopting the drafts I mentioned on Gerda's page. If you want another couple of suggestions, how about Draft:Symphony No. 1 (Stanford) and Draft:Cornelia Herrmann? --Hegvald (talk) 10:56, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Hegvald. I really only adopted Manfred Hemm. I think I'll leave Draft:Pétur Sakari and Draft:Cornelia Herrmann to their own devices for now and just leave some suggestions on the drafts. They're both obviously created to publicise artists whose notability is unclear or marginal. In those cases, I think the creators need to do the work themselves. Draft:Symphony No. 1 (Stanford) is a different kettle of fish. I'll probably move this to article space as a stub after deleting the personal commentary on the music which is wildly inappropriate. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 05:42, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Welcome back

I hope you stayed clear of earthquakes. Regards, --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:54, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Kudpung! Fortunately, we were on the other side of the Appenines and weren't affected, but it was terrible for the people in those areas. The almost total destruction of Amatrice is particularly sad and hard to believe. I hope you have been keeping well. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:59, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Well, I've been a bit busy with an RfC I was forced into launchiing prematurely. The topic is right up your street so you might want to join the circus. I don't do biased canvassing so don't think you have to support just because I launched it. Vote which ever way you think fit and if you think I'm 'insane' as one user suggested, I certainly wouldn't hold it against you. It would just be nice if those opposing could be objective and keep a civil tongue in their heads.--Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:56, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

And talking of RfCs, I thought I have to take some flak, but when I just found out an hour ago that Tim riley had retired amid some bullying, I was absolutely devastated. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:41, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

I miss him (and the others). I must be responsible though, judging from the header. Don't recall how. Sorry about mistakes in the latest IB I made, I was a bit shaken. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:47, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Kudpung. Yes the whole thing is quite sad. Apparently Tim's departure and that of several others has stemmed from the latest version of the infobox saga. UGH! Hopefully, the departures won't be permanent once everyone has cooled down, stepped back, and gained a sense of perspective (and proportion). This is the second year running that all hell has broken loose over this absurd issue during August when I am blissfully incommunicado in Tuscany. I then return in September to find the wreckage of these unedifying spectacles — 2015 2016. Plus ça change! Voceditenore (talk) 16:18, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Agree, word by word. And here I thought I had a good idea ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:01, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Portal:Opera

Thanks for the work on the featured picture section - had intended to come back, but you had done so by the time I had. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 03:37, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Advice

I seem to recall seeing somewhere that you are fairly clued upon copyright issues. I wonder if I could ask you a personal favour for your advice. Some years ago I uploaded a photo I took of a very old advert. Being very obviously well over 70 years old, (I'm almost that age myself!) I assume it to be free of any 'derivative work' restrictions. See File:Burrows Malvern Water.jpg. Of course, if I'm wrong, the image will sadly have to go. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:33, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Kudpung. The problem is... you need to prove that the image you photographed is itself out of copyright, either because it was published before 1923 or because the artist has been dead for over 70 years. I tried an internet search and found one like yours at a (now closed) auction (catalogue here) but it gave neither the date nor the artist and judging from the style and fonts, it's very borderline and might be post-1923. Do you by any chance have the original or know someone who does? Voceditenore (talk) 16:23, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your efforts. The graphic style certainly predates me and I'm nearly out of copyright! The one I photographed is in the Malvern Museum. The curator is a family friend but I doubt he knows more and I don't know when I will be next in Europe(sorry, not allowed to say that anymore) in the UK to ask him. Looks like I'll have to roll the poster up. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 16:45, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

The museum might have documentation on it. Try contacting him or the museum to see. It's a lovely poster. But then I'm nearly out of copyright too so my aesthetic preferences may be a bit off. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 16:53, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

NPP & AfC

A dedicated venue for combined discussion about NPP & AfC where a work group is also proposed has been created. See: Wikipedia:The future of NPP and AfC --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:54, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Captain Atom

Have you thought of lodging a DYK for the article on Captain Atom, would be happy to assist. I was thinking something along the lines of ...Australia cartoonists created Captain Atom a decade before the United States... Dan arndt (talk) 11:36, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Dan! I hadn't really thought about it, as I find DYK painfully bureaucratic. But I see you've gone ahead (Template:Did you know nominations/Captain Atom (Atlas Publications)) and that's fine by me. I've got it on watch and will assist if/when there are any queries. Comics are not really my specialty—I generally write about operas and opera singers—but I got drawn into creating several comics-related articles recently when I started filling in red links while expanding Fernando Carcupino. And that one (also slightly out of my area) came about from warding off the attentions of a globally blocked user who created loads of copyvio/hoax articles and keeps coming back as a sock. Ah, the weird, wonderful world of Wikipedia... . Best, Voceditenore (talk) 05:35, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

I was wondering how an English opera lover created an article on a 1940s Australian cartoon character - Wikipedia is truly a weird web of coincidences. I had seen your edits on Atlas Publications and Jack Bellew (btw a number of Australian publications have him incorrectly identified as Jack Ballieu) and was going to get around to doing an article on Captain Atom as a result but you beat me to it (and did a far better job that I probably could have). I didn't want to be presumptuous and lodge a DYK without checking however time is of an essence - only seven days from article creation. I'm sure that it will get recognised, which is a reflection on your work in creating it. If you ever have any queries regarding articles from Oz let me know and I'll see what I can find. Dan arndt (talk) 07:20, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

an help for Ursula Karven and Radio Studio 54 Network

Good morning from Calabria, I'm writing to say hello and know how you are. Beyond this to ask you a little help, just and no more than 10 to 15 minutes of your precious time, these are two items that I am caring, and that a User of Swedish origin said to have some problems. Please could you help me resolve the situation unfortunate? Thank you for what you did, do and will do for me. an affectionate greeting from Calabria--Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino (talk) 06:03, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Luigi. I've fixed the problem with Ursula Karven, but I'm afraid there's not much I can do with Radio Studio 54 Network. It's not a topic I'm interested in and I am working on several other articles in my field. You could try asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Italy. Perhaps someone there would be interested. Voceditenore (talk) 07:17, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the welcome. I look forward to working with you and the Composers again. Things have changed a bit! New ways to edit etc. Not much to worry about though. Jubileeclipman/Iadmc (talk) 18:28, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Please help to correct the page, if you can

Hi, Voceditenore! If and when you have some time, please help to make grammar and spelling corrections (as you pointed) in Ilias Psinakis as a native English speaker! Thank you in advance! LS 12:30, 13 November 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by LanaSimba (talk • contribs)

Replied at the Administrators' Noticeboard. End of discussion. Voceditenore (talk) 12:51, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

I've done a bit of copyediting on that article and replied to the thread at AN. Iadmc (Jubileeclipman) (talk) 13:41, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

New Page Review needs your help

Hi Voceditenore,

As an AfC reviewer you're probably aware that a new user right has been created for patrolling new pages (you might even have been granted the right already, and admins have it automatically).

Since July there has been a very serious backlog at Special:NewPagesFeed of over 14,000 pages, by far the worst since 2011, and we need an all out drive to get this back down to just a few hundred that can be easily maintained in the future. Unlike AfC, these pages are already in mainspace, and the thought of what might be there is quite scary. There are also many good faith article creators who need a simple, gentle push to the Tea House or their pages converted to Draft rather than being deleted.

Although New Page Reviewing can occasionally be somewhat more challenging than AfC, the criteria for obtaining the right are roughly the same. The Page Curation tool is even easier to use than the Helper Script, so it's likely that most AfC reviewers already have more than enough knowledge for the task of New Page Review.

It is hoped that AfC reviewers will apply for this right at WP:PERM and lend a hand. You'll need to have read the page at WP:NPR and the new tutorial.

(Sent to all active AfC reviewers) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:33, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Reviewing edits Comment

Hi Voc, many of my edits come up red with a red "r" next them in my watchlist etc. I assume that's simply because the account I'm using is brand new? Are you able to review them if you have time? The main culprit is 21st-century classical music. Thanks. Iadmc (Jubileeclipman) (talk) 12:39, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi Iadmc (Jubileeclipman). I don't see those red "r's" next to your edits. It looks like you have enabled the ORES tool, which is currently in beta version and currently returns many false positives. I suspect it is used/watched by very few editors. I wouldn't worry about it. If you don't want to see it, you can always go to your "Preferences", click on the "Beta features" tab, and disable it. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:59, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. I figured that eventually. I've decided to leave it enabled because—although it does give many false positives—it does help highlight vandalism. I occasionally send feedback to the talk page, too, to help the developers. Cheers Iadmc (Jubileeclipman) (talk) 20:06, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Afro Poli in 1948 Pagliacci film

Hi,

I think you contributed (to) the filmography for the article on Afro Poli.

[[1]]

I think Poli appeared in a 1948 film of Pagliacci as an actor, where another singer was dubbed in. I think that's what the following page says:

[[2]]

In the article for Afro Poli, there is a section for Film-opera and also a Filmography. I don't see the Pagliacci film listed. Shouldn't it be there? Since I am ignorant about this, I didn't want to make any changes myself, but want to bring it to the attention of someone who knows. Thanks!

Mark

Debell (talk) 01:38, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi Debell. I had only made a very minor addition of a link to Afro Poli. The Discography, Filmography, and Film-opera sections were pasted in by an Italian IP and are still in the original Italian. The Pagliacci film was already there, I just made it a bit more obvious (and accurate). All three of those sections need A LOT of clean up. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 14:51, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Vlatka Oršanić

Hello, Voceditenore

Thank you very much for your message abour Vlatka Orsanic article. We did our best to write a good article. I think I did add some references, which prove that my text is correct, for example: Salzburger Festspiele, Konzerthaus Wien, Alte Oper Frankfurt. If you, please, look the german article for Vlatka Oršanić, you will find some more references. Please let me know, what I must do and do not erase the article. We put a lot of work in it and I guarantee that every word in the article is true and correct. Can I add references in other languages too?

Thank You!

Sincerely Yours, IgorPabloigor (talk) 07:41, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi Pabloigor. No one will delete this article, she is definitely a notable singer. The problem initially was that it was a biography of living person with no references at all. This is not allowed on English Wikipedia and that's why another editor tagged it for deletion [3]. But now that I've added the references, it's OK. That doesn't mean the article doesn't need a lot more improvement, but the maintenance tags will attract other editors to fix some of the copyediting and formatting problems. However, one area where you really need to do some work is to find independent published sources for the awards. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:22, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Julius Harrison

Hi Voce. I'm putting an article up for GA that I had forgotten writing many years ago. Would you like to share the work on getting it through GA? There shouldn't be a lot to do, but you never know. Tim did a bit of work on it too a couple of years ago, so it should be in fairly good shape.--Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:50, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi Kudpung. I never put my articles through GA or FA. I'm not sure about the criteria, but I suspect it still needs a fair amount of work to achieve GA. I've got a couple of other projects on, but I'll put the article and the GA review on watch and try to help out with any sourcing issues that might arise. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:17, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for uploading the photo. I knew about its existence already but I'm a dunce when it comes to copyright stuff. I'll try and get round to looking at your articles, GA is not so hard - nothing like challenges of FA. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:46, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi Kudpung. It's amazing how few images of him there are, at least online. Besides that one, there's only a painted portrait, but those are always dodgy, especially when the artist is unknown. I'm sure the one I've added will stick. As for articles I've written, I don't submit them to GA or FA as matter of principle, not out of ignorance or modesty. I've had enough experience of both processes over the years as both a participant (helping out some editors, who wanted assistance with sourcing etc.) and as an observer of and occasional participant in the discussions to make this judgement. So, please no . Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:15, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Image Requests

User talk:Musiclanka

can you add some images of Dinesh Subasinghe ,im facing difficulty to get copyrights for pictures from wikipedia,few years ago i faced an issue on copy rights ,can you help me please.thanx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.134.5.82 (talk) 13:44, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Incorrect Copyright Claim - Charlie Zeleny Wikipedia Page

Hey there Voceditenore, the 4 books referenced from links on Amazon.com mention the subject Charlie Zeleny and actually public domain information referenced in the original Wikipedia page article that has been up for over 5 years on the subject Charlie Zeleny. It is common knowledge that the subject is in fact a pro drummer, music director, producer and solo artist. The Charlie Zeleny Wikipedia page has been up for over 5 years (last major update 2011 prior to 2016) and looks like it was actually referenced in the Encyclopedia of Bohemian and Czech-American Biography, Volume 1 by Miloslav Rechcigl Jr. which was released just recently on November 10th, 2016.

Here are multiple sources stating that Charlie Zeleny is an American drummer, music director, producer and solo artist:

• http://www.paiste.com/e/endorser_det.php?page=bio&endorserid=4606
• http://www.futurecomposer.com/2010/12/01/musician-profile-charlie-zeleny/
• https://www.discogs.com/artist/690830-Charlie-Zeleny
• http://www.protectionracket.com/artists/item/charlie-zeleny
• http://pearldrum.com/artists/drumset-artists/charlie-zeleny

Please remove the incorrect copyright claim when you get a chance. Also, please let me know if I need to change the reference to Amazon's books in any way to avoid this issue in the future. Thank you very much. 100.35.194.25 (talk) 14:53, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for the speedy resolution Voceditenore. 100.35.194.25 (talk) 16:43, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Vlatka Oršanić

Hello Voceditenore, about article Vlatka Orsanic. We did find some references for awards she got. Here are the copies:2004 - Marijana Radev Award (Croatia) for the best woman opera role in the season ( Katerina Izmailova in the opera Lady Macbeth of the Mtsensk District). 2007 - Milka Trnina Award (Croatia) for extraordinary artistic achievements. 2010 - Sergije Rainis Plaquette (Croatia) for extraordinary achievements in the field of vocal art and pedagogy. 2011 – Award of the Croatian Association of Music and Dance Pedagogues for extraordinary achievements in the field of music pedagogy. 2012 – The Samo Smerkolj Award (Slovenia) for the artistic achievements of the Slovene opera singers, especially in the field of chamber opera. 2012 – The Betetto Award (Slovenia) for the artistic achievements and overall contribution to the Slovenian music culture.

These references prove that the awards were true and everybody can see what an awards these are. I coul not get a reference for example for Mario del Monaco Contest, not in so short time. Maybe I must find the connection and get a written document about the 1. prize Vlatka Orsanic got many years ago, or should I use the photography I have, where Mario del Monaco is seen giving the award to Vlatka Orsanic What do you think?

Thank you very much!

Sincerely with best regards, Pabloigor (talk) 04:27, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Vlatka Oršanić

10.01.2017 Hello, Voceditenore! I always thought that British seem to prize few things so much as a good performance. So I was surprised with your editing particularly in one point: Vlatka Orsanic worked very hard to get the oportunity to sing at Salzburger Festspiele, at Edinburgh Festival, at Maggio Musicale Foorentino, at Wiener Festwochen, in Musikverein great hall, at Alte Oper in Frankfurt at Semperoper in Dresden, at Konzerthaus in Vienna etc. I am sure, you know these renowned festivals and stages well, as well as renowned conductors she worked with. So I don't understand, why did you simply delete this part of her life and career from her curriculum and (significantly?) only leave her minor performances. Don't you think it would be correct and fair to put the informations, mentioned above, back in text?

With best regards PabloigorPabloigor (talk) 06:04, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Vlatka Orsanic article

Hello again! It is now 30th of December 2016 and the article about Vlatka Oršanić is still not accepted although we improved it and I sent you a message about that on 17th of December. Will you be so kind and prove our changes and accept the article without restrictions and risk of deleting it. The german version, which is identical with the english text had been accepted after we made some changes and improvements.

I hope you will find some minutes to read this message and create an answer.

With best wishes for the new year! PabloigorPabloigor Pabloigor (talk)(talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:30, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Pabloigor. I am travelling at the moment, please read the message at the top of my talk page. I will try to get back to this when I return in January. Also please leave new messages at the bottom of this page. I have moved your misplaced message here where it belongs. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 06:05, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Weird

Hello Voce! How are you these days? I've been keeping away from AfC for the most part right now, although I do perform the odd review now and again. I'm enthralled by the whirlpool that is reverting vandalism at the moment, as well as the occasional article creation and copy edit. Most of my copy edits are related to reviewing and patrolling, however; once you go down the rabbit hole you can find all sorts of strange things! Anyway, the reason for my sudden post is that Smartse started an unusual conversation on my talk page regarding 2 year-old articles and the fact that SPAs added images to those articles after I created them. Now I had no problem in hearing this editor's claims and trying to sort things out, but they seem to be skirting round the accusation I am some sort of sock, which I find deeply disturbing. If memory serves me right, I recall some of the articles in question are music-related; furthermore, I had some sort of discussion with you about the articles' subjects back in the day. In any case I'd appreciate you gave a quick glance to my talk page and offer any thoughts if you had the time. I'm just at a loss as to how to react. I have countless times been berated by article submitters for my stringent reviews, I just never thought I would find myself having to explain obscure edits made by IPs. Merry Christmas! Best, FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 00:04, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

2017

Hi Voce. These last 8 weeks have been a very hectic time for me including having to dash to the UK urgently for a few days on a domestic matter, so I'm not sending out any pretty greetings cards this year but I didn't want to miss just giving you my very best wishes for 2017. Chris,Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 22:14, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Kudpung and all the best to you too! I hope things are a bit less hectic for you now. Voceditenore (talk) 18:36, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Many thanks from Berklee's FutMus Fall '16 class

Shiny thing archived here. Voceditenore (talk) 09:12, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Dean shiels page

I am dean shiels I want my page Information corrected and used osgood1985 to do this Osgood1985 (talk) 14:56, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Replied at your talk page. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:00, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

An admin's assistance required!

Hello voce! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Toby1203#January_2017 this user is persistently vandalizing Ashura even after multiple warnings. What should my next move be? -Arkhaminsanity (talk) 16:07, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Hello Arkhaminsanity. I'm not an admin, but I see that an admin has now blocked this user. If you ever need help with a persistent vandal, I suggest posting on Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Best wishes. Voceditenore (talk) 17:49, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Your'e not an admin?!? I could've sworn you were one bout a year ago. Anyways, thanks for the advice. Arkhaminsanity (talk) 17:51, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Giovanni Ambrogio Migliavacca

Hello! Your submission of Giovanni Ambrogio Migliavacca at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 21:56, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Focusandlearn

Thanks for your comments about the articles they created and sorry for not responding. They've announced their retirement today which I guess is an indirect admission that they are a paid editor. One of the article subjects confirmed that they paid a company to write it too. I've just proposed a ban at ANI, which will help get the ball rolling with clean up. SmartSE (talk) 22:01, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, SmartSE. I was away when the discussion was on ANI, but I too would have a supported the ban, alas. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:38, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

What do you think RE notability of Susan Allen (musician)? Apart from the NYT piece, I don't see suitable sources for BIO, but I've no idea about judging NMUSIC for classical artists. The one source that I've checked utterly failed to verify the content as well, but I'm wary of tidying up unless notability is solid. Thanks SmartSE (talk) 22:07, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi SmartSE. Yes, she is a notable musician (within a rather niche genre) who has premiered and recorded works by several well-known contemporary musicians. She would pass WP:MUSICBIO on the recordings alone. There are sources for her prominence: [4] and the works she has premiered, e.g. [5], [6], [7]. Plus basic biographical information is available from obituaries [8], [9]. The current article is odd. There is no biographical narrative. It's more like a CV/programme "bio". From the timing (created when she was already suffering from brain cancer), I suspect it was a "commission" to honor her. Anyhow, it needs to be truncated and turned into a real bio. Would you like me to tackle it? Voceditenore (talk) 07:17, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look. I can see that notability isn't a problem now. It'd be great if you could take a hedgetrimmer to it and add the verifiable details from those sources. SmartSE (talk) 21:23, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

On this day, 11 years ago...

Hey, Voceditenore. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! Lepricavark (talk) 17:49, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

• Thank you, Lepricavark. You're very kind! Voceditenore (talk) 16:57, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Very impressive record, thanks for all you do. - Sigh, Oleg Caetani, another case where the subject works on the article, including complete blanking. It needs work, and I have no time, also am kind of "involved" by singing in choirs with a member of his family. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:48, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi Gerda! I've put Caetani's article on watch, but it seems to already have several other watchers, fortunately. It does need a lot of work–the referencing is poor, and in some places the English too. Yes, situations like this are very draining, as you perhaps saw if you were following the latest saga. Ah well, onwards and upwards. PS. My sister-in-law used to live in an apartment in the Palazzo Caetani in Rome and as an operatic tidbit Titta Ruffo's father made its wrought iron gates. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 12:04, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Request for Comment: the Onion "incident" in the article of Congressman John Fleming

I would appreciate you weighing in on this talk subject as you have previously. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:John_Fleming_(American_politician)#Request_for_Comment:_2017_discussion_on_The_Onion_.22incident..22. Thank You!Tomuchtalk (talk) 15:19, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi Tomuchtalk. Unfortunately, I'm about to be off travelling for the next three weeks, and at the moment haven't got time to look into the issue in enough depth for an RfC. But... my approach would probably remain the one I took here when the issue first came up. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:03, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt response, Voceditenore. There has been no changes on the issue---just a new editor brought it up again. A quick statement posted to the bottom of the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:John_Fleming_(American_politician) would be appreciated. (talk) 00:36, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Voceditenore, thank you for your very wise comments.Tomuchtalk (talk) 04:15, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Need help with a copyright issue

Hello Voceditenore! I found your username and talk page on Wikipedia's list of copyright clerks. I've been on Wikipedia for many years, but I'm fairly new to the ins and outs of the editing process.

The page for VCU School of the Arts has been blanked out for some time, apparently due to a previous editor copy-and-pasting some copyrighted text from primary sources. Seeing as the page was fairly thin to begin with, and that I have personal interest in the history of the school, the arts, and the city of Richmond, I decided to completely overhaul the page. As recommended per the instructions on the blanked article, I created my revision here on a temporary talk page: Talk:VCU_School_of_the_Arts/Temp

I still need to clean up the References so they look clean and orderly, and I need to add photos and seek permission to use them. However, I would like to be able to make these edits on the page publicly, so that any other interested parties can contribute. I've taken great care to cite everything I possibly could and avoid reproducing any of the violating text.

If you are able to restore the page as a copyright clerk, I would be incredibly grateful!

Thank you! Doopliss77 (talk) 01:49, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi Doopliss77. I've checked out your draft and it seems OK. See my report and comments at Talk:VCU School of the Arts. If the other clerk is in agreement, we will ask an administrator to delete the current article and replace it with your draft. We can't do that ourselves as neither of us is an administrator. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 07:50, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Precious five years!

Precious

Fie years!

Latest opera I saw and didn't know and found impressive, with the choral conductor leading the performance, and a great singer-actor in the title role: Peter Grimes. Thank you for your consistent encouragement! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:14, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Re my comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frederick Achom (2nd nomination)

Yeah, I'm not sure that Achom would qualify as a UK/national "celebrity" either, but was trying to tease out if he could notable on that parameter (combined with his multiple convictions for fraud etc). Shearonink (talk) 18:27, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Brava, brava…

Shiny thing archived here. Voceditenore (talk) 12:52, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

…for turning the chaos at Virginia Zeani into an encyclopedic article. A well deserving subject, and a superb effort. Brava. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 10:02, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Leprof 7272 (talk) 10:16, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Leprof 7272! You're very kind. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 16:40, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

an help for John Seymour (author)

Good morning from Calabria, I'm writing to say hello and know how you are. I pretty well, as committed as ever to the country and in tourism for Coreca. Besides that I'm writing to ask you for help in this biography which then translate into Italian. Reading an old book I had at home I am passionate about his biography, he was a man and extraordinary life (at least in my opinion). Just 10 minutes of your precious time, for the rest I thank you for what you do for me, with an affection and great esteem. greetings from Calabria and thanks again--Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino (talk) 04:50, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

URGENT BIG SERIOUS PROBLEM

I ask you to take action on the item Carlo Biotti with the utmost urgency. The Justlettersandnumbers modified, writer made an unprecedented severity that is, that the judge in question had been accused of being a constant struggle wing. In 40 years no one has ever moved such an accusation, nowhere. This reasoning is false, defamatory and historically, remember that defamation is a criminal offense. I ask you to change on his part with the utmost urgency the line in question or the fact that the judge was accused of: * disclosure of official secrets, * have anticipated the previous convention on their own judgment before the final judgment. Please kindly, to immediately correct these constant changes and call, that person Justlettersandnumbers. who knows nothing of contemporary history, sees the sources, he understands the absolute criminal seriousness of what he writes. I have changed the voice, could you please point out that should not be changed by writing serious libels that no one has ever raised. Nessno ever said it was never allowed to say that the president was referring to the extreme left wings.

Thank you. --95.236.138.131 (talk) 00:11, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

See my comments today at Talk:Carlo Biotti. Voceditenore (talk) 09:51, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Favor

Voceditenore, you're a bona fide editor and you're logged in. Can you please look at the recent edits by User:Ashvingod? They are not bona fide. Thank you, 12.96.67.34 (talk) 16:55, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi IP! The edits are not optimal, but they don't appear to be vandalism as such. If he makes any more that you think are inappropriate, simply revert them with a clear edit summary explaining why. If you continue to be concerned, and he doesn't respond to a message on his talk page from you, it's best to contact an administrator (which I'm not). Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:57, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Stig Harder, Fashion Net & Lumiere

Hey Voceditenore,

Could you help restore the articles for FASHION NET at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fashion_Net, Lumiere at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumiere_(magazine) and my own at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stig_Harder? I read the reason was there weren't enough references online to establish notability.

I got in touch with Justlettersandnumbers and she/he informed me I could request a WP:deletion review with the reason "significant new information has come to light since a deletion that would justify recreating the deleted page." At the Deletion Review article, I read I should talk to the closing administrator first.

Here are several references from print publications back when the Internet was in its infancy:

https://www.stigharder.com/media/harpers-bazaar-1995.jpg https://www.stigharder.com/media/henne-2002.jpg https://www.stigharder.com/media/british-vogue-1995.jpg https://www.stigharder.com/media/british-vogue-1996.jpg https://www.stigharder.com/media/cooper-hewitt-1997.jpg https://www.stigharder.com/media/elle-japan-1996.jpg https://www.stigharder.com/media/guardian-1995.jpg https://www.stigharder.com/media/le-monde-1997.jpg https://www.stigharder.com/media/net-magazine-1996.jpg https://www.stigharder.com/media/netuser-1996.jpg https://www.stigharder.com/media/new-york-times-1996.jpg https://www.stigharder.com/media/paper-magazine.jpg https://www.stigharder.com/media/planete-internet-1996.jpg https://www.stigharder.com/media/time-magazine-1996.jpg https://www.stigharder.com/media/usa-today-1997.jpg https://www.stigharder.com/media/vogue-1995.jpg https://www.stigharder.com/media/wired-1996.jpg

My executive membership at the International Academy of Digital Arts and Sciences (click on letter H): https://www.iadas.net/membership/

Also, an old video capture from BBC Television on Fashion Net: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F5FgRZhSik

The archived page for Cooper Hewitt's "Mixing Messages" exhibition in 1996-1997 where Lumiere was included is at:

https://web-beta.archive.org/web/19970215142503/http://mixingmessages.si.edu:80/mm/dialogue/comm5.jhtml;MSkKN8ldt0c3R4wNNhG9EntHIMA793ySd5zF1QNZss8m0lA

The article itself is missing from the archive, but my staff back then did a screenshot: https://www.stigharder.com/media/cooper-hewitt-1997.jpg

Thank you so much.

Kind regards,

Stig

Stigharder (talk) 03:42, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Hello Stig, as it says at the top of this page, I'm abroad with limited internet access until 24 April. I will reply after my return. However, note that I was not the closing administrator. I am not an administrator at all. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 17:07, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Voceditenore! The closing administrator, Kurykh, did not get back to me yet. Talk to you when you're back. Kind regards, Stig

Stigharder (talk) 10:38, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

• Replied at length on your talk page [10]. Voceditenore (talk) 16:12, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Voceditenore — I replied to your reply.

Stigharder (talk) 16:25, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Dear Voceditenore,

(I assume you didn't see this on my own talk page, so I'm posting it also here.)

I've had the article in HENNE transcribed and translated into English on Google. After having a good look at WP:GNG it seems this article fulfills all requirements for notability. What do you think?

I also had a photo taken of the spread where the article appeared: https://www.stigharder.com/media/henne-magazine-2002.jpg

NORSKTOPPEN:

Gründer på nett

Han har bodd i Los Angeles, New York, Paris og Barcelona. Kanskje blir Tokyo neste stopp for STIG HARDER (33), nordmannen som lanserte verdens første mote sider på Internett.

Stig Harder er utgiver av to av verdens største og mest kjente mote-nettsteder på Internet: Fashion Net og Lumière. Ideen kom da han flyttet til Paris for åtte år siden. - Først kjøpte jeg et modem og koblet meg på Internett. Jeg søkte etter ordet "fashion", men fant ikke en eneste relevant side. Det var da jeg bestemte meg for å starte. Stig Harder lanserte Fashion Net i 1995. - Dette markerte noe nytt. New York Times, Vogue, Harper's Bazaar, The Guardian, CNN, Le Monde, TIME Magazine...., alle beskrev Internett som det nye mediet for mote. Senere samme år lanserte han Lumière, verdens første elektroniske motemagasin på Internett. Nylig ble Lumière nominert som et av verdens beste mote-nettsteder. I juryen satt blant andre Bjørk og David Bowie. - Før lanseringen snakket jeg med Chambre Syndicale, organisasjonen som arrangerer mote-showene i Paris. Jeg nevnte Lumière og Internet, og de sa spørrende: "Inter...., what?" Da visste jeg at vi fortsatt hadde langt å gå. Men da Chambre Syndicale senere så hva vi hadde laget, sa de: "Wow - it looks just like a magazine!" Det var gøy å vise dem Internett for aller første gang. Stig Harder er født i Flekkefjord. Han har studert grafisk design ved Art Center i Sveits og Los Angeles. Han har jobbet som designer i New York, München og Paris. - I tiden framover skal jeg bruke mesteparten av energien min på å utvikle eksperimentelle og innovative ting på Lumière. Tokyo blir muligens neste stopp - jeg var det i mars og ble veldig imponert. Nå lærer jeg meg japansk. Se mer av Internett-sidene på www.fashion.net og www.lumiere.com. TTS

A translation from Norwegian to English at: [11]

Warm regards,

Stig

Stigharder (talk) 15:30, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

• Replied at your talk page. Voceditenore (talk) 08:46, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Dear Voceditenore,

Trust you're well!

I'd appreciate if you could have a look at what I wrote to you on my talk page and let me know what you think.

Thank you, Voceditenore!

Warm regards,

Stig

Stigharder (talk) 09:31, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Dear Voceditenore,

Trust you're well.

Will this reference help getting the article for FASHION NET back up?

Recommended Core Bibliography of Textile and Clothing Resources for Academic and Public Libraries https://journals.ala.org/index.php/rusq/article/viewFile/3434/3680

Warm regards,

Stig

Stigharder (talk) 11:55, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello Stig. I'm not sure what you mean by "getting the article for FASHION NET back up". Fashion Net has been deleted. The only way it will get back up is for someone to write a completely new article with vastly improved references from those of the previous version, references which show significant in-depth coverage. As I've explained to you before, brief mentions in lists of web sites are not sufficient. This one from a 2008 issue of Reference & User Services Quarterly is yet one more of those. If the "new" article is substantially the same as the deleted article, it will be speedily deleted. If slightly improved, it may well be nominated for AfD instead. I've left you plenty of advice on your talk page about writing a new draft or incorporating material about this website in a more general article such as the "Internet" section of Fashion journalism. The latter option is preferable, in my view. I really have nothing to add to that. Voceditenore (talk) 13:03, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Dear Voceditenore,

Thank you so much. If you indeed believe FASHION NET doesn't qualify yet, does Fashion Model Directory?

Soon,

Stig Stigharder (talk) 22:44, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes, Fashion Model Directory probably does qualify, not for what's currently in the article, but for what's available [12] and it's linked from over 1000 other Wikipedia articles. But even if it did not qualify, it's immaterial. Wikipedia has literally thousands of inappropriate articles, and an article is never kept simply because other equally inappropriate ones exist. Please stop belabouring the fate of the article about your company with me. I am not an administrator. I have no control whatsoever over deleted articles. I have no interest whatsoever in writing fashion articles. I have given you my opinion on the available sources and their likely effect on the article being kept if it's recreated. I have also given you extensive advice on your talk page about your options, including projects that you could ask for further advice. This is the last time I'm going to comment on your deleted article either here or on your talk page. Voceditenore (talk) 08:24, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Dear Voceditenore,

Oh, I assumed you were an administrator — you indeed were the sole person voting for the deletion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Fashion_Net

Warm regards,

Stig

Stigharder (talk) 20:30, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

About the LGBT In russia page.

as you might have noticed in the log of edits of this article we already had a small war of edits with another edior, in which I won. Here it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SkyWarrior#LGBT_history_of_Russia I am lazy and tired to explain everything in second time, so please, stop reverting my contrib --194.67.216.222 (talk) 10:16, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

You did not "win" the argument that your removal was valid, simply the "argument" that you had not left an explanation. However, your explanation was entirely inadequate as was the link you provided in the edit summary. There are multiple reliable sources for Gorky's statements on homosexuality [13], [14]. I have replied further to the issues which you have encountered with your editing, especially your edit-warring, at the Teahouse in this section. Voceditenore (talk) 11:22, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

First of all, nobody was or is talking about Gorky in general. The part that i removed specifically said that Gorky replied to some homosexual allegations with his article. Did you even read it? Becuase you wrote a 10-lines post on teazone full of strawmens, instead of reading. Are you even capable of doing so? While in fact an 8-page article referenced homosexuality once, when counting all the evils of nazism, homosexuality came up with racism and some other stuff. Secondly, I judge your reply to be a form of intimidation. Unsurprising, really, since you couldnt even manage to read what the Gorky edit was about. Cheers --194.67.216.222 (talk) 11:28, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

I read the text you removed and its context very carefully. Your edit was inappropriate. The text you removed explicitly stated that Gorky did not formally reply to Whyte but that in "Proletarian Humanism", which he wrote that same year he appeared to contradict/refute Whyte's views. "Proletarian Humanism" also includes Gorky's statement: "Exterminate homosexuals, and Fascism will disappear" as well as his lament that "alongside of this we find that sexual perversion is spreading. Homosexual "love" is more or less recognised as a natural thing..." I personally think some of your problems come from English being your second language. I also think you also need to dial back the aggression. I realise you are frustrated (1) that other editors do not agree with your edits and (2) that your edits have been on occasion described as inaccurately as vandalism. However, I'm afraid that a lot of the problems are of your own making, especially the edit-warring, failure to discuss controversial edits on the article talk pages, and leaving empty or grossly inadequate edit summaries like this. Voceditenore (talk) 12:12, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

It's me the Ip-editor, I dug up my old account. First of all, on your first argument. The orginal statement that i removed said (and I am 'grossly' paraphrasing by the memory), that Gorky, in response to some criticism from the west about Stalin's treating of homosexuals, replied with this article. So he wrote, according to that sentence, that article in response to anti-homosexual criticism on the West's part. I am sure that you can understand why that was not the case. Second, about the frustration, yes, it was indeed frustrating, because most of the time i did provide an extensive explanation of my edits via either edit summaries, discussion boards, user discussion pages, are through all three at the same time, yet, it seems that nobody cares. As for the pereyaslav council, I accept that I should not have said that, but you have to understand, I have some understanding of different "historiographies" of the world, i've studied in 3 unis in 3 different cultural settings - Russia, China and Germany. I haven't once heard that, as it turns out, the whole story was fabricated and in reality the evil russian tsarist government faked all the papers, all the data, EVERYTHING. And ofc I know that i am going to be told that I am a putinbot and whatnot, but I also visited the very same page in the ukrainian. I literally would say that you should read google-translation of that page. It's so ridiculous, it's laughable. They actually reference there a guy (mr. Fomenko) who literally believes the whole history of the world was faked, that the Earth is 2000 years old, that Etruscians were russians, and stuff like that. --DraKyry (talk) 12:10, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

I repeat, in my view you misread the original text of LGBT history in Russia which you removed repeatedly by reverting three other editors without one word of discussion on the talk page. I have not restored it, although I think the article would benefit from a brief discussion of Gorky's views on the subject. Someone else can (and probably will) add it at some point. I gave you some good advice about your non-collaborative and aggressive conduct towards other editors. Take it or leave it. Your behaviour at the Teahouse was beyond the pale and I have no intention of having any further discussions with you either here or anywhere else. Voceditenore (talk) 12:27, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

I really don;t think you should try and silence other wikipedians then. If you are not ready to have a sensible discussion about a topic - you shouldn't edit Wikipedia at all. Good luck. --DraKyry (talk) 13:15, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Predictable denouement Voceditenore (talk) 13:09, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Halloween cheer!

Happy Halloween!

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Hello Voceditenore:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!
    – North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 15:00, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Send Halloween cheer by adding {{subst:Happy Halloween}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.

• Thank you, North America! Voceditenore (talk) 18:42, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Wishes

It's that time of the year again. No fancy template, but just wishing you all the best for the holidays and the new year, and thanking you for all you do. It's probably a lot warmer where I am than where you are 😎 (I'm sorry you didn't get this message when I sent it a few days ago. There must have been anothe Internet outage when I clicked 'send'. It goes on and off here like a Yo-Yo. Anyway, as I said, at least we have the sun here and 27C :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:58, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Seasons' Greetings

...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 16:56, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

• Thank you Bzuk and very happy holidays to you too! Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:44, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Well, merry Christmas and so on I suppose

Ricciarelli all gone!

[Gobble gobble gobble.] Ricciarelli pretty nice. All gone! <subliminal>send more!<subliminal> darwinbish ^BITE ☠ 22:14, 27 December 2017 (UTC).

Happy Holidays

A very belated Merry Christmas to you too! And a Happy New Year!4meter4 (talk) 22:22, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Back at work

Hi, VdiT,

What a joy to read your Talk page, chuckling and sometimes laughing aloud at all that you've been up to this year, especially a discussion that resonated in these quarters about going out of copyright. I'm back at work after too long a leave, with a Berklee class that's proving to be the best to date. If we might impose upon you to be our Good Angel again, I'd be grateful. Stay well. Yours, Ijmusic (talk) 20:38, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi IJ! Great to see you back! Of course I'll be happy help and look forward to seeing your students' work. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 06:11, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, dear VdiT. We'll start showing up soon. Yours, Ijmusic (talk) 19:45, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks and a Happy New Year!

Dear VdiT, Happy 2017! The students and I very much appreciated your beautiful Christmas greeting, and I hope that you enjoyed a good holiday.

Rosa Rosen mit Schleierkraut

My wife says that I should send you a bouquet of roses, and I finally figured out how. You've helped me, the students, and the cause of Wikipedia, enormously: the ideas that we inherited don't jibe with the Wikipedia ideal that you so graciously and thoughtfully demonstrated again and again. I admired the way you engaged, helped, and guided these new editors in turn, even passing them on when you deemed it appropriate. If your summer travels bring you to Boston, I hope that we might meet.

Meanwhile, another semester is starting. Might we impose upon you again? And you must let me know when these repeated requests become a burden.

All best wishes to you and yours for a healthy and productive new year!

Ijmusic (talk) 23:11, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

• Hi IJ! The roses are beautiful, thank you to you and your wife . Of course I'll be happy to keep an eye on your Berklee students. I'm looking forward to it, as always. I can't believe its been almost 10 years since we first started working together. It was the 2007 Autumn class at Longy. Time flies! Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:11, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

• Can it be ten years, dear VdiT? The number you've helped over the last decade runs into the hundreds! You'll enjoy this year's Berklee class, boasting as it does several bright lights. Thank you for agreeing to keep an eye on us: the students, my wife, and I dub you our Good Angel (as opposed to the editors who have less flattering nicknames). Yours, Ijmusic (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:44, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Rachel Maines

Well done! You may find Good Vibrations (sex shop) relevant and interesting. I used to buy gifts for girlfriends at their original location in the late 1970s. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 08:43, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Haha, I've shopped there. Softlavender (talk) 09:18, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Edited to add: also at Dell Williams' Eve's Garden, which was the first of its kind. Softlavender (talk) 09:21, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Well, this is quite an eye-opener . I had never heard of either one of these establishments, but then I never go to NY and I moved away from SF in 1963. Cullen, how on earth did you find Rachel Maines? I created it following this discussion to prove that a properly written, well-referenced article on a woman is not going to be immediately nominated for speedy deletion simply because of the subject's gender. Voceditenore (talk) 10:11, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

I saw the article mentioned at ANI, which I read sometimes to help restrain my boundless faith in human nature. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:58, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Ah, I've just nipped over to ANI to see what you were talking about, Cullen. After long experience with the editor in question, I must say that the outcome of that saga does not surprise me. Voceditenore (talk) 11:23, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Let's put it this way: That person espouses a bizarre theory of editing. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 15:51, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Șerban Nichifor

Remember working on this years ago? Well, the individual in question is back, charming as ever. But it's not his mother's article that concerns me now so much as his own. Could you perhaps explain that no, birth certificates he's uploaded to an open publishing platform don't meet WP:RS, indeed quite explicitly breach WP:SPS? Many thanks. - Biruitorul ^Talk 13:39, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Biruitorul. I remember that saga well! I have removed the birth certificates reference and kept most of the information about his parents after finding a reliable published source for it. I even added some. Hopefully the IP won't revert, If they do, I'll post on the article talk page. It's a dynamic IP so their user talk page is basically useless. It's pretty obvious the IP is the subject or someone very close to him. I must say there is quite a sock selection in the article history, e.g. [15], [16], and [17]. The latter is blocked as sock on the Romanian WP. SIGH, what a waste of time. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 14:30, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hi Voceditenore. Thank you for your comment on my talk page. I'm relatively new to the Wikipedia scene, but am quite an avid fan of opera, and am happy to be starting in this community. I do have a personal connection to a couple employees at Cincinnati Opera; however, I am neither being paid to make these articles nor being told to create them. I appreciate your feedback, and look forward to hearing more from you! Best, Asdielman.

Asdielman (talk) 13:46, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

• That's great to hear, Asdielman. Thanks so much for getting back to me. Happy editing and all the best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:09, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

RfA

Thanks for supporting my run for administrator. I am honored and grateful. ) Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:05, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

• You're very welcome, Cullen. It was my pleasure to support you. You'll be a really fine administrator. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:11, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

For you

	Award for Fortitude in Editing
	We need to revive the classical music scene here as few are taking a blind bit of interest at the moment. Certainly not so-called Contemporary... (1945??? 1975, even? What??? 2017!) Not even 20th century, much... — Iadmc♫talk  15:06, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Back again

Hi, VdT! We're back again, we merry band of Berklee newbies. As we embark upon first posts, might we enlist your aid? Summer was good to us here; I hope you had a successful break, too. Yours, Ijmusic (talk) 15:26, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi IJ! I'll be happy to help with your latest brood. I'll also leave a couple of suggestions on your talk page. Voceditenore (talk) 14:24, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, VdT, for your gracious assent. Thanks also for your thorough and clever reply in reference to Jonathan Wandag. I neglected to thank you at the time, and I apologize. You were kind to remember us at Christmas, and I hope that the year has gone well for you. Yours gratefully, Ijmusic (talk) 01:38, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Message for you

• Hi Voceditenore - thanks for your feedback thus far on the article "Dark marketing." The blog that you had mentioned has not only been deleted as a reference on the article, but it has also been deleted all together. https://www.brandtotal.com/blog/the-elephant-in-the-room-dark-marketing-what-it-is-and-how-to-illuminate-the-darkness . All other BrandTotal references have been deleted in both the article and the references. I wanted you to know that I'm trying my best to make the article live on and that there are many good reasons for it to do so.Rooks12345 (talk) 15:37, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

• Replied on your talk page. Voceditenore (talk) 17:13, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank-you

Hi, Thanks for your work on the Dark Marketing article. I just wanted to let you know that I have decided to retire permanently from Wikipedia. I have been editing for just under 12 months, have more than 10,000 edits to my credit, have overhauled some 20+ articles in the marketing/ advertising area and added substantial new sections to a further 18 or so articles in the same subject area. For 6 of the months that I have been editing, I have been stalked and bullied by an editor who has a record at ANI as a serial bully (completely unrelated to this case). It has all got too much for me. In light of his constant reversions and malicious commentary, I have decided to give it away rather than take him on. I have added a retired tag to my home page this day and have also added one more comment to the Dark Marketing talk page. I would appreciate it if you could ping me when there is an outcome of the AfD proposal. Thanks and regards, BronHiggs (talk) 02:20, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for being a voice of reason where the rest of us, including me, have failed miserably. Non notable, is non notable. No one will ever have any sympathy for paid editors, whether they disclose or not. It was never intended that disclosure should be taken as a licence to make money out of the work of the volunteers, particularly by those who are determined to make a business out of it. Sooner or later it will backfire on them and they will have to refund a customer. Take care, Chris (Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:10, 9 October 2017 (UTC))

Drafts for Move (company) and Realtor.com articles

Hello, Voceditenore. On behalf of Move, I've proposed expanded and updated Move (company) and Realtor.com articles. Given my conflict of interest, I will not edit either article directly and ask independent editors to review them for accuracy, neutrality, and verifiability. I've saved my Move draft here and my Realtor.com draft here. Both articles have edit requests on their respective talk pages. I noticed you are a top editor of the Trulia article, so I was wondering if you have any interest in reviewing either one of these drafts? Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason (talk) 16:36, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Inkian Jason. Sorry it's taken so long to get back to you. I've been very busy with my own editing. I'm afraid I really won't have time to get to those articles. Voceditenore (talk) 18:03, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Registration issue

Dear Voce di Tenore, One of my students is unable to join Wikipedia. Due to the linking of his IP address, he has been unable to create an account. Their response shows below:

Please help if you can. Yours, Ijmusic (talk) 18:17, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi IJ. The blocked IPs are all on T-Mobile. I suggest your student try to create an account using a different Internet Service Provider, i.e. not T-Mobile. Perhaps they could use one of the computers at Berklee or at a public library in Boston or on a classmate's computer. Once they have created an account, they should be able to edit using T-Mobile from their own device. Let me know if this doesn't work and I'll get some help from an admin. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:39, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, dear VdiT, for your lightning response. We'd had no luck with the W'pedia Help desk. Gratefully, Ijmusic (talk) 19:54, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Relieved that you'd found a solution to the student's problem, dear VdiT, I neglected to thank you for visiting all the class members so encouragingly this fall, and I apologize. You've made it possible for each of them to enjoy a positive experience their first time around. I am deeply grateful. Yours,Ijmusic (talk) 01:30, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Barnstar archived here. Voceditenore (talk) 09:36, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, Softlavender. You're very kind! Best, Voceditenore (talk) 22:55, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Hande Özyürek

Hello Voceditenore! Thank you very much for your message! I am finishing up a page for my cousin, Hande Ozyurek, and soliciting your counsel. Here is a link to my sandbox. Look forward to hearing from you! Best Regards, CancuViolin (talk) 16:13, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi, CancuViolin! I'll get back to you on your talk page tomorrow or Monday. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:27, 9 December 2017 (UTC)