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August 12

Getting Started

Hi,

My name is Adi and I live in Toronto. I would like to join you as a user and am very interested in your internet and data scope.

I tried to Log In using my actual name but your sytem would not allow it. I have no idea how to get into your site. Unfortunately if I do have a user name and password with you, I do not know what they may be and I thank you for assiting me in this matter.

Sincerely,

Adi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.91.196 (talk) 00:30, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

This is the encyclopedia Wikipedia. You have to create an account at Special:UserLogin/signup before you can log in. You can choose a username and password there. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Also, as you may have discovered, you can freely edit wikipedia without an account or logon. There are a couple of things you cannot do, and I highly encourage you to create a personal account, but it is not required. Tiggerjay (talk) 04:59, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

My Kelly Kelly Page was deleted

My name is GameBoy789 why was my kelly kelly page deleted I spent hours doing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GameBoy789 (talk • contribs) 00:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Do you mean Kelly Kelly? It hasn't been deleted. Nanonic (talk) 00:36, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

It's not your page. Deleting a page and reverting edits to a page are different things. Your edits to Kelly Kelly were reverted by other editors. Click the history tab to see the page history [1] where some of them used edit summaries. You can discuss the content of the page and make suggestions on its talk page at Talk:Kelly Kelly. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:08, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

As PrimeHunter says, its not your page. There have been almost 3000 edits on the page since it was created 3 May 2006. You made 18 edits yesterday and today. Looking at your edits, they were all reverted as all the content you removed should not have been removed, and all the content that you added was unsourced. While all contributions are welcomed, if an edit removes information which has been found to be reliable and/or adds unverified information, then this will be reverted to the previous version. If the information you wish to add can be verified, with reliable citations from independent sources, then add the information with the relevant citations. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:05, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I need an Admin

How can I get in touch with an admin urgently? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.90.226.246 (talk) 01:17, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

It depends on the nature of your problem. Your best bet is Wikipedia:Administrator's noticeboard. Xenon54 (talk) 01:24, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Are you still in need of assistance? I do not see a post over at the noticeboard, nor does it appear that you've made any other edits except to this page. Tiggerjay (talk) 04:55, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

IP Address

I edited an article before creating an account and it logged my entry as my IP address. I've since created an account and would like my IP address removed from the history. How do I do that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by U2 fan 35 (talk • contribs) 01:21, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, it used to be possible but isn't anymore. Xenon54 (talk) 01:23, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I actually believe there is a way, but you need to have a very good reason for it. Anyways, since you didn't edit your own pages with the IP address, it is very difficult to tie your IP address to your username. Tiggerjay (talk) 04:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

If you are worried about your privacy, you can request a user with oversight to remove it (See Wikipedia:Requests for oversight). However, if you want to re-attribute the edit from your IP to your account, this can't be done. As Xenon54 said, it used to be possible but not anymore. ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 05:00, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

As long as you don't go back and update signatures on talk pages, there is no way for anyone but a checkuser to tie your IP to your account. See WP:LOGGEDOUT. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 10:45, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Others may still be able to guess a likely connection between your IP and account by comparing edits. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:22, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Can't find project page

Resolved

The other day I stumbled a project page that included a list of issues (disputes, RfC, policy decisions, etc.) that were currently open. Now I can't find it. I remember the Rorschach test images issue was listed as well as a discussion about creating more arbitration committees. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Sorry, I can't be more specific. I should have bookmarked the page when I found it. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 03:02, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard? Hardtofindaname 03:17, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

No, but that page lead me to WP:VPR which is the page I was thinking of. Thank you very much for your help. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 03:24, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

You may be thinking specifically of Template:Cent which is transcluded on WP:VPR and other pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Hang on

Please advise specific instructions to add a "hang on" message to an "instant deletion" notice. While the message instructs the need to add such a comment, there are no details as to how to do it. Your help is appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.117.12 (talk) 07:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

It has instructions to add the hangon tag, and a user who has created a new page knows how to edit pages in general. But on the other hand, instructions are very rarely too detailed. Kotiwalo (talk) 07:50, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Simply add {{hangon}} below the speedy deletion notice on the page. TNXMan 11:51, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

And note you also have to give a reason on the article talk page. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:10, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Can I add a line saying our company has not reviewed this?

Hi,

MSCI Barra and its products and services are mentioned all over Wikipedia. And although we love Wikipedia and what it stands for, as a company we have chosen to use our resources for constantly improving our products rather than for reviewing things other people may write about us, even if copied from our publications. Is it ok to add a line to an article saying 'MSCI Barra has not reviewed this article'?

Kind regards, Nele Van der borght MSCI Barra Marketing Team —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.66.97.168 (talk) 09:20, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia is for encyclopedic text not review so the line would not look appropriate. If you see any concerns please mention them on the talk page of the article and people should jump in. I believe there are some instances where you are able to remove info if it is not sourced and included only to be blatantly malicious. Please see WP:COIC and the rest of the linked page for informaiton.

The article should also be based on reliable secondary sources (WP:RS) so some information may not meet branding guidelines.Cptnono (talk) 09:30, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

(after edit conflict) I think there are two separate issues here - Wikipedia is written collaboratively by its users, and no one user (or person) "owns" or "approves" content in articles. Therefore, you have no role in "reviewing" material written about your company (although we welcome contributions from you, as long as you keep in mind that Wikipedia is not meant for promotion of your company - please see Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations).

The second point concerns material copied from your publications - unless you have released your publications under a CC-BY-SA license (see Wikipedia:Copyrights), then that material should not be on Wikipedia if it's a verbatim copy. Could you point us to such material, so that we may review it for its suitability for inclusion in Wikipedia?

I hope this helps to answer your question. — QuantumEleven 09:35, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

You are editing from an IP address belonging to your company and Special:Contributions/195.66.97.168 shows some problematic edits about the company. I don't know whether it was you or somebody else at the company but please see the above links and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:05, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Frankly, Wikipedia is well-known enough that anybody reading the article would realise it's not an official statement written or reviewed by your company. Reviews for accuracy are welcome, but don't worry about it if you don't have the resources. Dcoetzee 01:00, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Article I created MUST BE DELETED

I created an article, A New Chapter (Rogue Traders album). It must be deleted, because the Rogue's upcoming album is definately not going to be called 'A New Chapter'. It is creating a large problem, because it is untrue and inaccurate. PLEASE DELETE IT! Preceding unsigned comment left by The Rogue Leader (talk | contribs ) 09:59, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

It is now deleted and was never a good article subject per WP:CRYSTAL.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:18, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Can I just point out to The Rogue Leader that this post dated Aug 3 2009, 01:15 PM from James Ash Trader (band member) states that the working title is ROGUE 4, so you could have just changed the title A New Chapter in the article, and then moved the article to Rogue 4, especially as the article has clearly shown that it was a future album (and details subject to change) and that this was a working title anyway. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:27, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Also, please be aware of the wikipedia policies as they relate to you creating/editing articles which you are directly involved in:

“ Avoid editing articles with which you may have a conflict of interest. You will need to carefully follow Wikipedia's guide to editing with a conflict of interest. ”

Tiggerjay (talk) 19:43, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

how do I send a page to a friend?

how do I send a page to a friend?Ronniesouthport (talk) 10:10, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Copy the URL of the Wikipedia page you wish to share and distribute this to your friend. — JamesR (talk) @ 10:23, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

If you want it to be a specific version of the page (i.e. without later edits), then in the toolbox on the left, click on Permanent link if it is available, and then send the URL for the resulting webpage, which will say something like: "This is the current revision of this page, as edited by Phantomsteve (talk | contribs) at 11:29, 12 August 2009. The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this version." or "This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Phantomsteve (talk | contribs) at 11:27, 12 August 2009. It may differ significantly from the current revision.". -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:34, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

best school

what country having a good quality standard of education? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.6.181.153 (talk) 11:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Try our reference desk, this is for editing questions only. Kotiwalo (talk) 11:18, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Delete account

I would like to delete my account. Is that possible? If not, can I at least change my username?

Thanks,

Donna Kishbaugh —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donnakishbaugh (talk • contribs) 12:03, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Accounts cannot be deleted but usernames can be changed. See Wikipedia:Right to vanish. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:07, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

If you simply want a new username, and since you essentially have no edits - you could stop using your current username and create a new one; alternately you can request to have your name changes. See the implications over at Wikipedia:Changing username. Tiggerjay (talk) 14:39, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Change the name of a Wikipedia page

Resolved

Hi, I'm trying to change the name of the Everest Catholic High School page.

I need the page to say Everest Academy and High School. We have technically changed out name by taking the catholic out of it and this needs to be reflected in the title of our page.

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cniemiec (talk • contribs) 15:10, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I see you've already done it! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Title Editing

Resolved

How do I edit the title of a wikipedia article i have created? Spelling mistake basically.

Tenacious beck (talk) 17:11, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

You rename an article by actually moving it. See WP:MOVE. hmwitht 17:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

You can't yet, as your account isn't old enough and hasn't made enough edits. I've moved the page for you. Algebraist 17:16, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

In the future, you can use WP:Requested moves. However, you will soon be autoconfirmed, and you will be able to move pages on your own. hmwitht 18:49, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

substantiate notability

How do I submit material that verifies notability if the material is not available online. How may I submit scanned documents to you? thank you. Pregina (talk) 17:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Please see our policy on reliable sources. There is not requirement that a source be online. It can be any reliable newspaper, magazine, or other pubished reliable secondary source. -Arch dude (talk) 17:39, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I wish to emphasize the "published" part, though. If you've got a copy of somebody's birth certificate or something, that's not a published source and fails as a reliable source. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:04, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm not sure about the birth certificate issue since they are a matter of public record, at least in the US. Tiggerjay (talk) 19:34, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

A birth certificate, or any other unpublished primary source, can't be used to establish notability (which seems to be what the OP is asking about), as Orangemike said. Whether such a source can be used as a reference for a particular fact is slightly more problematic; but, in general, if the fact is contested and no secondary source for it can be found, I'd be inclined to reject the source. WP:V requires that sources be accessible for checking by other editors (or readers). Deor (talk) 20:34, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

"A matter of public record" is a very different thing from "published document". Remember the principle of verifiability comes into play. We are a tertiary or quaternary project, and do not use primary sources (as a rule). Without further information, we may not be able to help the querent further. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:42, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

pls help me with my password

Hi, I am not sure whether I provided an email address in my wiki account, with user name = jbehera. password i am not able to recollect now and I am not able to get it via email address because when I click on that button saying "Email new password", i get an error saying :

Login errorError sending mail: There is no e-mail address recorded for user "Jbehera"

I am fed up with this problem for months now. Please help me in gettin a new password via my email.

Thanks, Jitendra. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.237.207 (talk) 18:56, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

If there is no email address listed and you cannot remember your password, there is no way to get it back. Your best bet is to register a new account. Sorry about that.TNXMan 19:01, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi TNX, Is there any timeout period, after which the user id is deleted from the wiki database, because of inactivity?

Thanks, Jitendra. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.237.207 (talk) 19:09, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Accounts are never deleted, and since you didn't attach an email address with the account there is no way to recover it. The account just made three minor edits though; why not just create another one? --59.95.101.61 (talk) 19:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi, You're right in suggesting that, but you know, I am kinda nostalgic to my old user name :-) which takes after my initials. I make minor changes only. Well, I will think about creating a new one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.237.207 (talk) 19:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Question about duplication of material

Does it violate any Wiki policy and/or guidelines to duplicate an entire section from one Wiki page, and add it verbatim (word-for-word) to another Wiki page. I ask this because a page was protected by an adminstrator (due to an edit war), and an editor took the entire duputed section and moved it to another page (verbatim) thus bypassing the ptotection and igniting another edit war. Are you aware of any specific Wiki guidelines that prevent this kind of behavior 72.165.90.110 (talk) 19:16, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

You can copy text etc. to another page, but it should be attributed (ie. note in the edit summary that it is copied and where it is copied from). However, this sounds like a content or POV fork which is discouraged. If you mention the page(s) you're talking about, someone here might be able to give more specific advice. --☇Kateshortforbob _talk☄ 19:26, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

WP:SUMMARY might be slightly related. An article may summarize another article, but should not duplicate a section of it. However, in keeping with WP:PRESERVE, we should try to fix problems with material rather than delete it, and sometimes a new article may be appropriate for information that is inappropriate in another article, unless of course the material is unsuitable for Wikipedia in any article. Since you asked a vague question, we can only give vague answers. Wikipedia is so complicated that we must decide everything on a case-by-case basis, weighing many overlapping and sometimes conflicting rules simultaneously. If an editor wants to publish information which is unsuitable for Wikipedia anywhere, the editor should use an alternative outlet instead. --Teratornis (talk) 20:28, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

It may be more appropriate to use either {{see|Article#section}} to link to another article's section, which gives:

Further information: Article § section

or {{main|Article}} to link to another article, which gives:

Main article: Article

This might be preferable to copying text from another article. With regards to the first option, it might be necessary to create a separate section in the article, if that's appropriate. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 21:08, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

renaming non-existing topics with existing ones

Hullo, I'm from Hindi wiki and facing an acute problem. We have several articles which sometimes refer to English term and sometimes Hindi term of the same thing. This has created unnecessary duplicates which we want to get rid of.

What specifically I want is to convert all references to English term to an equivalent Hindi term on hindi wikipedia. For example, I would like to change references to "Commonwealth Games" to equivalent Hindi "राष्ट्रमण्डल खेल" on Hindi wikipedia. There are 100s of such terms spread on Hindi Wiki (and 20-30s references for each term!) and it is not possible to make the changes manually. So we would like to do it automatically, with a click, given the English and Hindi term.

Please let me know what could be a possible way to solve the above problem. Also, what permissions I would need on Hindi Wiki (like being an "admin") to carry out these changes. Are their any existing tools on wikipedia to do this? Please guide me.

Thanks,

shaurabh bharti

Shaurabh Bharti 19:31, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

It sounds like you want to run a bot program. See the links under WP:EIW#Bot. I have no idea of the bot policy on the Hindi Wikipedia, and yes you will need an administrator over there to enable a bot program to run, unless you can find someone who already has an approved bot program which can do the search-and-replace edit you have in mind. Since the English Wikipedia is the largest Wikipedia, we have a lot more tools to automate repetitive edits than the smaller Wikimedia Foundations projects have. And when you say "it is not possible to make the changes manually" do you really mean "it would be tedious to make the changes manually"? Lots of things are possible and tedious. --Teratornis (talk) 20:37, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Lots of things are possible but tedious Sure, I do believe in that. Thanks for the help. :-) I guess I would need to work on a bot. But I would first check the bot list if it's already available :-) Shaurabh Bharti 21:20, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Reference question for my page for you

Hello quick question, if you look in the body of my page you will see the [7] next to the sentence that references my first match. What is the abbreviated code that I should put next to the first name under my profile photo in my profile box so that this name will also have a [7] next to it since it was used in that same match. I tried a bunch of times and have no idea how to get it right. If you could make the code that I can copy and paste next to it, I would be very greatful. I'm sure it will take you literally 5 seconds! Thanks Buddy!

Jaderocker (talk) 20:07, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean by "your" page? The term usually means user page, but you don't have one. I looked at ----------, but I don't see what you are talking about there.SPhilbrickT 20:13, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

If "my page" refers to the ---------- article, then "profile box" might refer to the {{Infobox Wrestler}} template in that article. To duplicate a footnote citation, see WP:FOOT#Naming a ref tag so it can be used more than once. --Teratornis (talk) 20:19, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

See Help:User page and WP:WIAA to learn about the distinction between "articles" and "user pages" on Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 20:20, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

OK, my question is this my friend..........on the page ----------, look in the profile box. Next to the name ------------ there is a [1] How do I get that same [1] next to another sentence in the body of the article. What abbreviated code should be used for this reference? Tried several times and kept getting an [8] which was signifying a mistake making it look like it was separate reference when it is supposed to reference the same thing just another time. I looked at the help page but there is no way alone it can be done. If you type out a quick abbreviated code for this reference it would be very much appreciated.

Thank You Very Much,

Jaderocker (talk) 23:00, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I tried but someone is doing it even as we speak. When you click on edit, and look next to the first John Bagwell, you'll see <ref name="review" />. You copy that and put it

where you want.--SPhilbrickT 00:44, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, looks good. It has been fixed. Thank You Very Much for your time anyway buddy!

Jaderocker (talk) 00:49, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Just ------------ some key words out for privacy. Thanks Again!

Jaderocker (talk) 00:52, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Infoboxes and Images

Can someone help me with creating infoboxes, because every time I try to make one for one of my articles like my article on the Mercedes S63 AMG for example, it will only show like three or four things if that. I am also having trouble with images. Thanks!! --Bismarck43 (talk) 20:29, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

You will need to be more specific about what sort of trouble you are having. Make a "user sandbox" page where you can experiment, for example by clicking here: User:Bismarck43/Sandbox. Put an infobox in your sandbox page as best you can, save it, and we can look at it and see what you are doing wrong. Often the simplest method is to inspect a reasonably well-formed article that is similar to what you want to create, for example Mercedes-Benz SLC-Class, and copy and edit the code you see there into your article. Use your sandbox page when you want to test any difficult edits. --Teratornis (talk) 20:44, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict)For the infobox, go to Template:Infobox Automobile, copy the unfilled template in the "Usage" section, and paste it at the top of the edit window for the article. Then fill in some or all of the fields (after the equals signs) with the appropriate information and save the edit. What sort of image problems are you having? Deor (talk) 20:47, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/Bismarck43 does not show any image uploads to the English Wikipedia. It's better to upload images to Commons if they are freely licensed. If you merely want to display images that are already on Wikipedia or Commons, see Help:Images and Wikipedia:Picture tutorial. What images are you trying to display? For example, a number of images that might relate to what you are editing are here: Commons:Category:Mercedes-Benz vehicles by type. And see Mercedes-AMG. --Teratornis (talk) 20:51, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

See, in particular, Mercedes-Benz W221#Special variants. Mightn't you want to expand that section rather than create a new article? Note that we don't have separate articles for the other individual models of that vehicle. Deor (talk) 21:08, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Accidentally damaged a page somehow

Help! I just made this very minor edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paceco&oldid=307631118

which consisted of removing a single erroneous word from the article, and somehow the main picture on the page has vanished, although I didn't touch the box on the right.

Can someone please undo my screwup?

Many thanks

Steve L —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.72.157.133 (talk) 21:33, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Don't see the problem— File:Italy location map.svg shows properly in the infobox. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 21:56, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Registeration

I have downloaded your Google Pro - but - when I try to register, it will not allow this. What can I do to register? Jim Snelgrove <email removed to prevent spam> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.209.233.207 (talk) 21:34, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

You need to contact Google for support on this. We can help if you have issues with editing Wikipedia. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 21:54, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:18, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Non-breaking spaces

If a number is used with a measurement (such as "2 meters"), do you have to use a non-breaking space between them or is that just with unit abbreviations? Thanks. Totakeke423 (talk) 21:36, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure there's any "have" involved with this, but Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Non-breaking spaces does recommend placing non-breaking spaces between compound expressions... where displacement might be disruptive to the reader." The same incongruity in reading occurs between 2
m and 2
meters. So I think you better go fix it before you get sent to the Style Gulag.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Healthcare options

I am with a large OB/GYN practice and I was wondering if I could put up an article about the practice, not as an advertisement, just as a way to give info to people looking for an OB/GYN. It would include the history of the practice and current info like services, hospital affiliations, certifications, awards, doctors, locations, etc. I could even link articles relating to OB/GYN care and women's health in general. Would this be possible or is it still considered COI?

ThanksAzMomDocs (talk) 22:33, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

You say the article's purpose would not be to advertise, but to get your practice 'out there' in public knowledge. Isn't that the purpose of an advertisement? Anyway, I don't think articles on individual practices are notable enough - or even appropriate - for Wikipedia. Xenon54 (talk) 22:40, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Please see the Wikipedia policy on advertising on Wikipedia. While I salute you good intentions, it would be very difficult to separate marketing from informative. What comes to mind are the TV commercials for the HPV vaccination, Gardasil - its a commercial which is designed to sound like a public service announcement, but is really an advertisement. So your question would be, why can they have an article on Wikipedia, and the primary reason is because the product is notable, which your practice is probably not. But again, review advertising on Wikipedia - and perhaps it may be notable enough. Then checkout your first article. Otherwise, your efforts would be better spent trying to improve the existing Ob/Gyn article. Off the cuff, I think it would be great if you added a section within that article regarding the value of seeing an OB/GYN - perhaps backed up with notable and reliable sources. Tiggerjay (talk) 00:46, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Note that your username may violate WP:ORGNAME or WP:NOSHARE (due to the trailing 's' which makes it a plural; if your account gets blocked, you could make another account AzMomDoc which would imply one individual user). Please read all of WP:BFAQ for general guidelines about writing an article on Wikipedia about any business. You could write about your practice on Wikicompany, which wants to have an article about every legally incorporated business in the world. Wikipedia, on the other hand, only wants articles about "notable" businesses, which basically means businesses for which there are multiple published reliable sources which are independent of the business itself. Wikipedia is not so much a collection of facts, but a collection of edited excerpts from what others have already published. See WP:V for an explanation of why this is so. In any case, you can look around Wikipedia to see if we already have articles similar to the one you want to create, to get an idea of what sort of article you would need to write to make it defensible against our vigilant deletionists. We have a rather poor list: Group medical practice in the United States which at the moment doesn't seem to link to articles about any of the practices it lists, but could in some cases, for example Kaiser Permanente. A bit of looking finds these categories:

• Category:Medical and health organizations based in the United States
• Category:Health care companies of the United States

Look at some of the other articles about medical and health organizations, and look at their talk pages to see if any of them have been nominated for deletion. You can learn about problems to avoid by reading their deletion discussions. If you want to develop a new article, the safest method is to start with a "user sandbox" page by clicking here: User:AzMomDocs/Sandbox. Type what you have in mind, then ask here for people to look at it and see whether it will be suitable for Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 18:45, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

You might want to join Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine. --Teratornis (talk) 18:51, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Plagiarism

I found that a section of the Furman v. Georgia article had been plagiarised. What is the procedure for this? I posted a comment in that article's discussion but I do not think anyone will see that for a while. Is there a special tag I should use to mark it as plagiarised? (And, yes, I could rewrite it or simply remove the information, but I feel it is important information and I do not have the time to rewrite it...just enough time to post this question). 75.86.188.134 (talk) 22:49, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

If text was cpied into Wikipedia from a copyrighted source, then its a copyrigight violation in addition to plagiarism, and you should remove it. If the source is notunder copyright, then you can simply add a reference and attribute it: no need to re-word. If yo are unsure, add a note at suspected copyright violations -Arch dude (talk) 23:22, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I just dealt with it. Sometimes when we get an external link with identical text it's taken from the Wikipedia article, so I used the Wikblame tool to find when the text was added and it was indeed not just that but a whole swath of text from the site verbatim (diff). In answer to part of your question, never mark copyvios and leave them in. Remove them instead with extreme prejudice. Yes, it is a good idea to completely rewrite if the text fills a hole in an article, but the copyvio should be removed immediately.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:30, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Plagiarism, in the classical sense, is okay on wikipedia, but only if the following condition is met: The original material must be in the public domain, or licensed under GFDL, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, or other compatible license. For instance, it would be fine to copy/paste information produced by the US government, since information produced by the US Government is in the public domain. WhiteDragon (talk) 16:54, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry but it is not acceptabe to Plagiarize. Plagiarism is copying without attribution. It is acceptable to copy, but you must attribute the source. If you attribute the source, then it's not plagiarism. Furthermore, if the work is CC-BY-SA and you copy without attribution, then in addition to committing plagiarism, you are also in violation of the license and therefore you are violating copyright law. -Arch dude (talk) 18:23, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Colt 1860 Army .44 Caliber Revolver S/n 16763

How can I find out what the value of the above revolver might be when I sell it? Its in good condition. My Uncle left the gun upon his death. He was a Master Gun Smith at making guns of all kinds and lots of rifle barrels. I hope you can give me an idea of its value. Louia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.20.127.107 (talk) 23:05, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Have you tried the miscellaneous section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:10, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

addig a category

I thought it would be easy to add a category to a page here and here, but I was wrong. I've often come across an article without a category, which oten has some template relating to categories where I can scroll through a list and pick an appropriate one.

This time, I found a category indicating that the article wasn't categorized, but not making it easy to add a category. I clicked on the link, which brought me to Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization, which wasn't helpful. It tells me how to add a category if I know the name, but doesn't offer much help if I do not. (I read Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization#What categories already exist? which has a lot of information about things that don't work, and the ones that do are overwhelming.)

I tried searching the FAQ, but it brought me to help for readers - no help, or to Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization, which I've seen.

I tried guessing, and added [[Category:Women's Basketball]], but that doesn't just drop in the category, it adds text I don't want.

What am I doing wrong?--SPhilbrickT 23:36, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Nothing really, from looking at the content of the article and going straight to Category:Basketball I noted that there is a child called Category:Women's basketball (NB. capitalisation also counts in category names) and also via the competitions that Category:Basketball at the Universiade exists. These categories as well as one somewhere in the depths of Category:Basketball in the United States would probably be good inclusions. As an aside, you can link directly to a category without adding it to a page such as this by adding a : to the front of the link - [[:Category:Fish]] is displayed as Category:Fish. Nanonic (talk) 23:57, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

And looking at the history of the USA Women's U18 and U19 teams page, the mistake you made was to directly replace the uncategorised notice with the category by replacing {{Uncategorized|date=August 2009}} with {{category:basketball}}. Curly braces on Wikipedia transclude pages. In this case it is displaying the text from Category:Basketball at the bottom of the article. To fix this replace the curly braces with square ones so it looks like [[Category:Basketball]] or one of the others above. Nanonic (talk) 00:04, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Darn, I knew it was going to be something stupid, and I tried to make sure it wasn't = yes, curly braces tripped me up. Thank-you.--SPhilbrickT 00:19, 13 August 2009 (UTC)