User talk:Andrew Gray/Archives/31

Latest comment: 10 years ago by MediaWiki message delivery in topic The Signpost: 02 April 2014


07:14, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

British subject

Andrew, In all(?) Carnegie Medal book articles and writer biographies, for 1967 to 2001(?), I wrote "by a British subject" because the prize was open to "British" writers in the sense that they were from British Commonwealth countries. After 2001(?) but not before, the criterion has been "British" books --by first or co-publication or nearly simultaneous publication (three months?).

Jennifer Donnelly (your diffs) was not a British subject (that remains unusual) and her book was British only by the nearly-simultaneous criterion (simultaneous or nearly so is now common).

The question marks mean that date 2001 is offhand recollection. And it was my design to use 'by a British subject' and 'British book' where applicable, with a pertinent distinct reference for 1967 to 2001?. And to cover every one of the Carnegie Medal book and writer articles (cat Carnegie Medal in Literature).

P.S. For all children's writers (and their books) acclaimed* as the first American, or first Brit, or etc, to win some award, I have designed to provide context --in this case re opening the award to foreign writers only recently. Similarly those writers who are acclaimed* first to win some award twice, or one of only three to win more than once, etc, --where context is whether the award was open to repeat winners, when.

--P64 (talk) 23:58, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Revise Guardian Prize to Carnegie Medal thruout. This pertains to the Greenaway Medal too, of course. --where again I covered all book articles and writer biographies that we have at EN.wiki (cat Kate Greenaway Medal) and intended to carry out the design described above.
It may be Guardian rather than Carnegie & Greenaway where I was able to document a crucial change in rules fully, and did put it in all relevant articles, or it may be an American award. Maybe I didn't execute the design completely for any award :--(
--P64 (talk) 00:12, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Well remembered - it had completely slipped my mind that the Carnegie is now broader than just UK authors. However, I think "British subject" is problematic for a few reasons:
a) "British subjects" hasn't been the same as "British\Commonwealth citizens" for thirty years;
b) "subject" in the context of a literary prize seems a bit confusing, since it can make readers think it's about a British subject (topic). "British author" or "British and Commonwealth author" feels a bit more natural phrasing.
Given these, I'd think it's better to either gloss it as a British prize (which is factually correct) and let them follow the link for the fine detail, or (for pre-expansion) use "by a British author". Thoughts? Andrew Gray (talk) 20:06, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
No conclusive thought. I agree with (b) considering second-language readers, for 2013–20214 experience at DE.wiki teaches that I don't know how to read or write am, an, auf, bei, ... prepositions in the Weblinks section :–(
I agree that's it's better to gloss or use "British" writer or "British or Commonwealth". It appears to me at British subject#1949 to 1982 that 'Commonwealth citizen' has not been correct since 1982. But I don't know the history of the award (need a source or two) to make those calls even with perfect understanding of the history of citizenship/nationality/subjecthood law.
In book articles and writer biographies it may be best to gloss generally and add a Note where the origin of that year's winner makes it relevant, eg Ivan Southall and Josh (novel). As I did at Gail E. Haley, where it is yet more relevant because she is the Only Person to Win Both the Caldecott and Greenaway Medals!
(On another matter that you have noted, I gave Haley the lead wording "annual awards for children's book illustration from both the American and British librarians" without linking either association.)
--P64 (talk) 15:45, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Gail E. Haley

P.S. At a glance I think Gail E. Haley must be the one who inspired me to ask a couple years ago about citing the Authorities, or even relying on the Authority control template display. The template display then linked to lccn.loc.gov, same target as the lazy editor's citation that I stuck in the References section. (Somewhere in talk space someone opined that we take for granted editors have used those sources.) In ignorance or impatience I quit there (Talk:Gail E. Haley#Library of Congress Catalog data); eventually returned to explain the two Medals but never cleaned up the use links.

--P64 (talk) 15:45, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Taliban

Greetings! You have been randomly selected to receive an invitation to participate in the request for comment on Talk:Taliban. Should you wish to respond to the invitation, your contribution to this discussion will be very much appreciated! If in doubt, please see suggestions for responding. If you do not wish to receive these types of notices, please remove your name from Wikipedia:Feedback request service. — Legobot (talk) 19:02, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #102

The Signpost: 19 March 2014

Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot

Note: All columns in this table are sortable, allowing you to rearrange the table so the articles most interesting to you are shown at the top. All images have mouse-over popups with more information. For more information about the columns and categories, please consult the documentation, and please do get in touch on SuggestBot's talk page with any questions you might have.

Views/Day Quality Title Content Headings Images Links Sources Tagged with…
  48th (South Midland) Division (talk)       Add sources
  Chiquita Brands International (talk)   Add sources
  Guardian Children's Fiction Prize (talk)   Add sources
  Infantry of the British Army (talk)   Add sources
  The Flintstones (talk) Add sources
  Khalil (singer) (talk)           Add sources
  XXX Corps (United Kingdom) (talk)     Cleanup
  Queen's Own Worcestershire Hussars (talk)     Cleanup
  11th Hussars (talk)     Cleanup
  17th (Northern) Division (talk)         Expand
  33rd Division (United Kingdom) (talk)         Expand
  Lancashire Fusiliers (talk)     Expand
  Northwestern Europe (talk)       Unencyclopaedic
  Advanced CANDU reactor (talk)           Unencyclopaedic
  Exoteric (talk)           Unencyclopaedic
  Kneeling (talk)         Merge
  3rd Canadian Division (talk)   Merge
  48th Infantry Brigade Combat Team (United States) (talk)       Merge
  Middlesex Yeomanry (talk)         Wikify
  Dogfight (musical) (talk)           Wikify
  History of the Australian Army (talk)   Wikify
  British Land Units of the First World War (talk)       Orphan
  Alkali manufacture (talk)           Orphan
  Ahlum (talk)         Orphan
  Battle of Armentières (talk)       Stub
  160th (Wales) Brigade (talk)         Stub
  80th Infantry (Reserve) Division (United Kingdom) (talk)         Stub
  Gary Burns (ice hockey) (talk)           Stub
  Yeongjongdo (talk)           Stub
  22nd Brigade (United Kingdom) (talk)           Stub

SuggestBot picks articles in a number of ways based on other articles you've edited, including straight text similarity, following wikilinks, and matching your editing patterns against those of other Wikipedians. It tries to recommend only articles that other Wikipedians have marked as needing work. We appreciate that you have signed up to receive suggestions regularly, your contributions make Wikipedia better — thanks for helping!

If you have feedback on how to make SuggestBot better, please let us know on SuggestBot's talk page. Regards from Nettrom (talk), SuggestBot's caretaker. -- SuggestBot (talk) 14:16, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

18:56, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:300: Rise of an Empire

Greetings! You have been randomly selected to receive an invitation to participate in the request for comment on Talk:300: Rise of an Empire. Should you wish to respond to the invitation, your contribution to this discussion will be very much appreciated! If in doubt, please see suggestions for responding. If you do not wish to receive these types of notices, please remove your name from Wikipedia:Feedback request service. — Legobot (talk) 00:06, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:List of African-American Academy Award winners and nominees

Greetings! You have been randomly selected to receive an invitation to participate in the request for comment on Talk:List of African-American Academy Award winners and nominees. Should you wish to respond to the invitation, your contribution to this discussion will be very much appreciated! If in doubt, please see suggestions for responding. If you do not wish to receive these types of notices, please remove your name from Wikipedia:Feedback request service. — Legobot (talk) 00:13, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 26 March 2014

Wikidata weekly summary #103

09:20, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014 March newsletter

A quick update as we are half way through round two of this year's competition. WikiCup newcomer   Godot13 (submissions) (Pool E) leads, having produced a massive set of featured pictures for Silver certificate (United States), an article also brought to featured list status. Former finalist   Adam Cuerden (submissions) (Pool G) is in second, which he owes mostly to his work with historical images, including a number of images from Urania's Mirror, an article also brought to good status. 2010 champion (Pool C) is third overall, thanks to contributions relating to naval history, including the newly featured Japanese battleship Nagato.   Cliftonian (submissions), who currently leads Pool A and is sixth overall, takes the title for the highest scoring individual article of the competition so far, with the top importance featured article Ian Smith.

With 26 people having already scored over 100 points, it is likely that well over 100 points will be needed to secure a place in round 3. Recent years have required 123 (2013), 65 (2012), 41 (2011) and 100 (2010). Remember that only 64 will progress to round 3 at the end of April. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page; if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points equally. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail), The ed17 (talkemail) and Miyagawa (talkemail) 22:55, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (people)

Greetings! You have been randomly selected to receive an invitation to participate in the request for comment on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (people). Should you wish to respond to the invitation, your contribution to this discussion will be very much appreciated! If in doubt, please see suggestions for responding. If you do not wish to receive these types of notices, please remove your name from Wikipedia:Feedback request service. — Legobot (talk) 00:04, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot

Note: All columns in this table are sortable, allowing you to rearrange the table so the articles most interesting to you are shown at the top. All images have mouse-over popups with more information. For more information about the columns and categories, please consult the documentation, and please do get in touch on SuggestBot's talk page with any questions you might have.

Views/Day Quality Title Content Headings Images Links Sources Tagged with…
  Royal Sussex Regiment (talk)     Add sources
  Colours, standards and guidons (talk)   Add sources
  New Army (talk)         Add sources
  Strait (talk)       Add sources
  Electrode (talk)       Add sources
  4th Canadian Division (talk)     Add sources
  2nd Infantry Regiment (United States) (talk)   Cleanup
  Edward Lisle Strutt (talk)           Cleanup
  Nasirabad, Raibareli (talk)         Cleanup
  Al Asad Airbase (talk)       Expand
  I Corps (United Kingdom) (talk)     Expand
  Pulse (legume) (talk)         Expand
  Destruction of Kalisz (talk)     Unencyclopaedic
  Soldier Soldier (talk)       Unencyclopaedic
  Abertay University (talk)     Unencyclopaedic
  216th Infantry Division (Wehrmacht) (talk)         Merge
  Simferopol incident (talk)       Merge
  Migjeni Theatre (talk)         Merge
  History of the Royal Marines (talk)   Wikify
  Isle of Wight Rifles (talk)         Wikify
  Battle of Flirey (talk)       Wikify
  CENTAG wartime structure in 1989 (talk)     Orphan
  Entrenching battalions (talk)           Orphan
  Active Learning in Higher Education (talk)           Orphan
  Iešjávri (talk)         Stub
  Yorkshire County Division (talk)         Stub
0   190th Brigade (United Kingdom) (talk)           Stub
  Patrick Sellar (talk)           Stub
  Hidden Führer: Debating the Enigma of Hitler's Sexuality (talk)           Stub
  Norfolk County Division (talk)         Stub

SuggestBot picks articles in a number of ways based on other articles you've edited, including straight text similarity, following wikilinks, and matching your editing patterns against those of other Wikipedians. It tries to recommend only articles that other Wikipedians have marked as needing work. We appreciate that you have signed up to receive suggestions regularly, your contributions make Wikipedia better — thanks for helping!

If you have feedback on how to make SuggestBot better, please let us know on SuggestBot's talk page. Regards from Nettrom (talk), SuggestBot's caretaker. -- SuggestBot (talk) 16:57, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Crowned Crane

Greetings! You have been randomly selected to receive an invitation to participate in the request for comment on Talk:Crowned Crane. Should you wish to respond to the invitation, your contribution to this discussion will be very much appreciated! If in doubt, please see suggestions for responding. If you do not wish to receive these types of notices, please remove your name from Wikipedia:Feedback request service. — Legobot (talk) 00:07, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Geonotice

Please post the Seattle meetup notice as soon as possible. Thanks, --Pine 07:45, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #104

The Signpost: 02 April 2014

08:00, 7 April 2014 (UTC)