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Seeming sock puppets
Hello.
I know it's too late now, but I noted that three IP addresses have been used by a single person to vandalize pages related to Hello Kitty anime, Onegai My Melody, and Ni Hao, Kai-Lan as they seem to support each others' edits. The IPs in question are: 76.117.98.193 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log), 71.58.37.146 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log), and 69.242.55.122 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log), which are addresses used by the vandal who was using the now blocked 68.44.142.99 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). They seem like they're used by the same person to me due to the kinds of edits the former three dished out. Just discovered this after reverting edits at the Kai-lan article (first using an anonymous IP myself in my sister's laptop before logging in with my own laptop). Shall I report this to WP:AN/I? Thanks in advance. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 07:38, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
- Reporting to AIV would probably be the best step, first. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 18:46, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
Looks like the same guy is doing his MO again, this time on Hello Kitty's Furry Tale Theater using 69.181.119.96 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 05:11, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- WP:AIV is the best place to report things like this, especially since things stopped a couple hours ago. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 06:44, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
WP:MOS-JA
I've got another proposed change to the guideline here. Your opinion on the matter, rather than me hearing Mujaki's, Jpatokal's, and Jfgslo's incorrect uses of other policies, would be helpful in determining a new consensus on the page.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 21:50, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
End of year awards
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The Anime and Manga BarnSakura Award |
I award you this BarnSakura in recondition of your contributions to anime and manga articles during 2010 and because everyone deserves a little recondition every once in a while. ;) —Farix (t | c) 18:03, 31 December 2010 (UTC) |
- Thanks! ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 18:37, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia 10th Anniversary events in Japan
It's shameful that there's no 10th Anniversary event in Tokyo. Is there any way of determining and contacting the most active contributors in greater Tokyo (expats and Japanese) and seeing if there's interest in organizing something? LittleBen (talk) 15:45, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
- I would recommend posting at both Wikipedia:Meetup/Tokyo and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan to see who is interested. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 17:29, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
- It seems that most editors in Japan are not aware of Wikipedia:Meetup/Tokyo. Wikipedia can surely do Geolocation [presumably this was used to advertise (to the general public in Japan) the visit and tech. talk by an Wikipedia infrastructure guy]. Surely the same mechanism could be used to advertise to logged-in users in Japan "if you're interested in a meet-up in Tokyo to celebrate Wikipedia's 10th anniversary then add your user name to Wikipedia:Meetup/Tokyo". I'd think it more productive to bring together active editors — experienced editors and new editors — than to hold a party for the general public that would attract lots of people, most of whom will never get involved. Advertising on both English and Japanese Wikipedia with the aim of bringing together English native speaker editors and Japanese native speaker editors could encourage people to team up to translate some of the more important articles on Japanese Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LittleBenW (talk • contribs) 03:13, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I don't know anything about that (the advertising to people based on where they login from). I think your idea has a lot of merit, though. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 03:30, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
- Wonder where I might best ask about that (the advertising to people based on country/area they login from) and suggest that it could be used to organize 10th anniversary events and build local user communities. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LittleBenW (talk • contribs) 18:24, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I don't know anything about that (the advertising to people based on where they login from). I think your idea has a lot of merit, though. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 03:30, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
- It seems that most editors in Japan are not aware of Wikipedia:Meetup/Tokyo. Wikipedia can surely do Geolocation [presumably this was used to advertise (to the general public in Japan) the visit and tech. talk by an Wikipedia infrastructure guy]. Surely the same mechanism could be used to advertise to logged-in users in Japan "if you're interested in a meet-up in Tokyo to celebrate Wikipedia's 10th anniversary then add your user name to Wikipedia:Meetup/Tokyo". I'd think it more productive to bring together active editors — experienced editors and new editors — than to hold a party for the general public that would attract lots of people, most of whom will never get involved. Advertising on both English and Japanese Wikipedia with the aim of bringing together English native speaker editors and Japanese native speaker editors could encourage people to team up to translate some of the more important articles on Japanese Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LittleBenW (talk • contribs) 03:13, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
Apparent problem edits question
What does someone do re: edits that appear to be making more issues than they are solving? A user came to my attention last night/early this AM with an apparently automated "cleanup" of a page which wound up in refs backlog. I saw that the user has removed many links to non-free images due to lack of rationales. While I realize all must have a rationale, many editors who work on articles are not the original uploaders of these images, have no idea why they have disappeared and possibly not know what to do about the issue. These images then may wind up as redlink non-free in backlog and be deleted, depending on the experience level of the user who is trying to solve the problem.
Would it be possible for some type of change in policy re: these images, such as placing a notice on the article's talk page stating the problem and that the image may be deleted in X number of days unless corrected? This would provide all editors of the article fair notice of the issue and afford them the opportunity to correct the matter.
Thanks for listening! We hope (talk) 16:25, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
- I think that would be a good idea, as it would be less bitey than the current way it's done. You would probably want to start at WP:Village pump (policy). ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 17:31, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
This will be my first try at policy--will list it there but might need to bother you again re: fine points on it. :-) Thanks again! We hope (talk) 17:38, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Just a note for future reference. Lists are copyright, which is why we don't copy out entire lists, but use a sample - I think 10 - 20% has been seen as acceptable, while this article copies out the entire list. The link at the bottom of the page doesn't give a source, but a site where any individual can create their own list. It's worth looking closely at what is given as a "reference" before declining a Prod as "has a reference". If you do a search on Ranker for the list you'll come upon the person who made the list a 13 year. SilkTork *YES! 12:42, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
- No, simple lists can not be copyrighted (at least in the United States, where it counts for Wikipedia). There is nothing original in a simple list, especially one organized by well-known details. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 19:19, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
your assistance requested.
since you were involved with the RFC/U in 2009, concerning Docu, I've noticed he is back to not signing his signature properly. look at the edit history of User talk:Docu as he removed a notice i made requesting him to sign properly. LibStar (talk) 12:23, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- apologies, I was looking at the top of his talk page which had some 2009 messages, it appears his recent use of signature uses date and time. LibStar (talk) 12:33, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Jpatokal
Jpatokal has seen it fit to revert my removal of your bit on the namidash and replacing that example with the star glyph. Do you have any issue with my changes, particularly concerning the fact that for the past year I have been trying to get some discussion as to whether or not we should allow the closest possible derivative of the namidash into article titles?—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 02:27, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
And now that Pmanderson has involved himself, again, I have modified the section once more.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 02:44, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
And Jpatokal reverted me again, and I have tried to reword my changes to what you added so it is allowed again.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 06:33, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
poke. Prodego talk 07:21, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
- I have 5 minutes until I have to leave to create this account, if you could rename that user please, thanks. Prodego talk 07:56, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
- Beautiful, thank you. Prodego talk 07:56, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
- No problem. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 07:58, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
- Beautiful, thank you. Prodego talk 07:56, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Speculative fiction listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Speculative fiction. Since you had some involvement with the Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Speculative fiction redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Mhiji 13:04, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Since you're the 'crat who does most of the changes there, just thought I should introduce myself :p You may have seen me do a bit of clerking there, not that there's much to do - you take care of most of it (and good job there!). I do some clerking at CHUU too, there's a bit more work there. Anyway, if you see me doing anything wrong feel free to tell me and be as harsh as you want. dmz 22:14, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
- You seem to be doing a good job so far. Thanks for the help! ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 08:11, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
- No problem! Also, do you have a convenient template somewhere for the messages you leave on user's talk pages? (The "Your attention needed at WP:CHUS" one) dmz 21:40, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
- That would be {{Chu note}}. Be sure to read the documentation as there are a few different ways to use it. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 04:13, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, I noticed that it seemed scripted but couldn't find it. dmz 04:24, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- No problem. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 04:26, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, I noticed that it seemed scripted but couldn't find it. dmz 04:24, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- That would be {{Chu note}}. Be sure to read the documentation as there are a few different ways to use it. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 04:13, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- No problem! Also, do you have a convenient template somewhere for the messages you leave on user's talk pages? (The "Your attention needed at WP:CHUS" one) dmz 21:40, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Invitation to join WikiProject United States
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Science Fiction
FYI - Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Science Fiction has posts that appear to have gone unaddressed for a while. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 13:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- I addressed the only one needing addressing. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 16:23, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Martintg
I recently requested a username change, and now User:Martintg seems to have emailed you some kind of complaint. I'm wondering whether this is somehow related to the rename of my account? Nanobear (talk) 16:29, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not at liberty to discuss private email conversations. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 16:31, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- Though, as Martintg commented below, the point is moot now. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 05:54, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
I asked Nihonjoe that since Nanobear's former identity is under an active Arbcom discretionary sanction, Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Digwuren#Log_of_blocks_and_bans should be updated to reflect Nanobear's new name. Is a formal report to ANI really required for something that really is a mundane procedural matter? --Martin (talk) 20:29, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- I have emailed the clerk NuclearWarfare and asked him to update the log. Nanobear (talk) 20:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- And this makes the whole concern moot. Please take this discussion elsewhere now, Nanobear. Thanks! ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 05:54, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Apologies if I made an error when renaming. Is that sanction still open? It seems from the wikilink above to be six months from last January. --Dweller (talk) 21:59, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- There was a new two month sanction imposed in December, see at the bottom of the section for 2010. --Martin (talk) 03:47, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee#Renaming_users_under_sanctions --Dweller (talk) 11:06, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Rules of capitalization
Hi Joe. On these "corrections" of yours:
WP:MOS tells us (on capitalization):
- Capitalize the first letter in the first and last words in the titles of English compositions (books and other print works, [...] etc.). The first letter in the other words is also capitalized, except for [...].
(My emphasis.) Nothing about what's not in English.
One part of WP:MOSJ promises to give guidance on capitalization for Japanese, but actually the section is devoted to the reproduction of text that's already in roman script (though NUttiLY caPITalized) when in Japanese, and therefore is irrelevant here.
What I don't see is any instruction that romanized versions of titles not in English should use the "up" style of capitalization in English (an instruction that would lead to indisputably bizarre results if applied to, say, German) or that glosses in English of titles in other languages should do so.
As you may have guessed from the number of places that you had to "correct", I was pretty sure of what I was doing. I was sleepy, so I may have made mistakes within it; and also you are free to dislike or disagree with it, but here it is (where "up" and "down" styles -- terms that I believe are used in the Chicago Manual of Style -- mean respectively "capitalize where doing so is not bizarre" [e.g. A Dictionary of Modern History 1789–1945] and "don't capitalize where not doing so is not bizarre" [e.g. A dictionary of modern history 1789–1945]):
- Actual titles in English of books and so forth use the "up" style.
- Titles in Japanese of books and so forth use the "down" style.
- English-language glosses of titles in Japanese use the "down" style.
This or something like it is what I've done in a fairly large number of articles, adding up to a huge number of titles. (An example: Ihei Kimura.) I don't remember having read criticism of this practice. It's pretty much what's done in "my" (!) "Good Article" Hiroh Kikai, and it was not an issue in either promotion to or reassessment of GA status.
Your preference isn't clearly wrong, but I believe that my system is better, because:
- It doesn't subject Japanese to a complex set of rules that are rather specific to English (and, outside WP, not even needed for English)
- It may subtly help the hurried reader to distinguish between actual and made-up English titles
In the spirit of "WP:RETAIN" (which is admittedly about US/British spelling and not capitalization), I suggest that the article should stay as it was, and that you should therefore revert your (well-intentioned) edit. -- Hoary (talk) 05:21, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
- See WP:MOS-JA#General guidelines point #10. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 16:42, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
- Hah, no wonder that "General guideline" looked unfamiliar: you added it just days ago. I don't see discussion of it in the talk page, either. (Yes, there's discussion of capitalization there, but it's mostly about WacKY TRADemarKS and so forth.) -- Hoary (talk) 06:34, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- It was discussed years ago and apparently never spelled out explicitly. I'll have to hunt through the archives to find it. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 07:28, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- Ironically enough, the main discussion I can see was initiated by you back in 2006. While you initially started the discussion talking about foreign language titled using all caps, part of the discussion included my referencing the same Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capital letters) referenced now in the MOS-JA (search for "normal capitalization"). It was also discussed briefly here, here, and here. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 08:10, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- Please see this on the MOSJA talk page. -- Hoary (talk) 12:18, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- Hah, no wonder that "General guideline" looked unfamiliar: you added it just days ago. I don't see discussion of it in the talk page, either. (Yes, there's discussion of capitalization there, but it's mostly about WacKY TRADemarKS and so forth.) -- Hoary (talk) 06:34, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Vandalism--7 pages in a short period of time
User page I have reverted/rolled back, etc. 7 pages this IP user has vandalized in his/her short time online here today. Can you help--am trying to keep up with him/her. Thanks! We hope (talk) 01:04, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- Blocked. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 01:58, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks much!! We hope (talk) 01:59, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- The best place to report things like this is WP:AIV as you'll get a quicker response. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 02:00, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Infobox artist
On your addition of an infobox to Toyoko Tokiwa:
Tokiwa is a documentary photographer. While the notion that photography can be art has been around for well over a century, the notion that all worthwhile photography is art is rather a new and controversial one.
As you're sure to know, infoboxes are far less popular among editors of articles on photographers, or artists, or other "creatives", than they are among editors of articles on footballers and so forth. The string "infobox" does not appear in the Featured article criteria. FAs on photographers that lack infoboxes include:
There are cogent arguments for infoboxes for certain kinds of people. (I wouldn't dream of removing them from articles on hurdlers, cheesecake models, and so on.) The arguments against them for people such as photographers are hinted at by your infobox for Ken Domon: Yes, Tokiwa was influenced by Domon, but so were dozens of photographers who have articles (or at least crappy substubs) in en:WP. Yes, Tokiwa can be added; but why Tokiwa in particular? And this "Influenced" field is a well-used way in which bios of living people of (unlike Tokiwa) borderline notability can get themselves linked to and thereby look a bit more impressive. In short, infoboxes here invite simplifications, exaggerations, and mere repetition; arguably they also insult the intelligence of the reader.
You're a bureaucrat and an exceptionally vigorous and good editor, with an excellent command of Japanese. I'm sure you have lots of WP stuff on your plate. If you've suddenly developed an interest in Japanese photography, I'm happy to know it. Do please add material. (A huge amount of non-trivia could be added to the article on Domon, for example. There are entire books about him.) If you haven't developed such an interest but anyway notice mistakes (such as my recent and idiotic one, caught by another editor, of transcribing 奥村 as "Okamura"), then do please fix them. But as it is I'm puzzled by the new salience of your conversions of one style to another. -- Hoary (talk) 05:51, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- I can't tell if you have a question in your comments or not. Was there something specific you were trying to ask? I will note that {{infobox artist}} specifically mentions photographers as examples of who the infobox is meant for. Just because some photographers don't already have an infobox doesn't mean it should be used on any of them. Taking good photographs is an art, so I would definitely consider any photographer who is notable enough to have an article here to be a photographic artist regardless of their chosen photographic field.
- As for my recent edits to a few photographer articles and a couple museum articles, I added links based on the content of the reciprocal articles, partially due to some photographer articles being labelled as orphans. If they are listed as having their photos in the permanent collections of a specific museum, I think it's fine to list them in that museum's article. It helps people find related articles, for one thing. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 08:48, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, there was and is a specific question: How does a biographical infobox in the article on a photographer such as Domon or Tokiwa so benefit the article as to outweigh the harm done by its repetitiveness, its invitation to exaggerate and oversimplify, and its insult to the reader's intelligence?
- It's certainly OK to add the names of photographers represented in museums to the articles on those museums. Again, I welcome your well-intentioned and generally beneficial edit. I just wonder about the best way to choose the photographers, given that (in this example) hundreds are eligible for the treatment. (Those who are held highest in critical esteem? Those who sell the best? Those who have the best articles?) Of course categorization could be an answer, but I don't recall ever having seen "Category:People in the permanent collection of the Whatever Museum", and thus imagine that creating such a category would ruffle feathers. (Of course populating this particular category would be most tiresome -- three-hundred-plus articles! -- or a job for a bot.) -- Hoary (talk) 09:18, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- I don't see how an infobox insults a person's intelligence. All it does is provide a quick reference to some of the information in the article; nothing more, nothing less. If you don't like them, that's fine, but they are standard issue for articles about many different people in many different fields. I see no harm at all in including an infobox.
- As for who to include in the list of photographers in the permanent collection, I just went through the list of articles linking to the museum article and found those which stated they were in the permanent collection. Pretty simple, really. :) ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 16:45, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Let's look at the infobox in Toyoko Tokiwa. It starts by telling the reader that this is Toyoko Tokiwa (about which there was no doubt). And then (photo caption aside):
- Birth name: 常盤 刀洋子
For Tokiwa, the precise name is a biographical triviality. (It's not so for all Japanese photographers; e.g. Moriyama Daidō actually had work published as by Moriyama Hiromichi, which I presume was the original reading of the characters of his original name.)
- Born 15 January 1930 (1930-01-15) (age 80)
- Yokohama, Kanagawa Prefecture, Japan
- Nationality Japanese
- Field Photography
Well, yes, but trivially easy for the hurried reader to extract from the article. (I mean, I cannot read Portuguese, but were this article all in Portuguese I'd be able to infer as much.) And also partly trivial (our opinion of her work would be unchanged if we suddenly discovered that no, she was born in Kagawa in 1929).
- Works Kiken na Adabana
Yes, but (i) this is shown in the caption to the photo above; and (ii) by itself it will mean nothing to more than a handful of people. (Arguably this title/book is hugely overemphasized in the article -- which of course would be my fault, not yours -- and this should read "the portrayal of working women" or similar.)
- Influenced by Ken Domon
Yes, but I've no particular reason to think that she was exceptionally influenced by him in particular. She was influenced by the realism of the time, which was spearheaded by Domon; that's all I know at this point about the relationship between the two. I do know that her photography was directly influenced by her elder brother (whose name I don't know) and by her husband.
It's repetition and (well intended) simplification. And this kind of thing isn't merely endemic in bio-infoboxes, it's almost inevitable with them.
Infoboxes are useful with, say, cars. You know that for a model of car a number of fields can be provided with data that are usually unambiguous: First revelation to the press; first sale; first sale in the EU; first sale in north America; width; height; length; wheelbase; fuel consumption measured in one way; ditto measured in another; blah blah blah. An infobox is superb for this. It's also good for generic kinds of human: major-league baseballers and so forth. For other kinds of human, it dumbs down at best.
Anyway, the infobox, however well intended, adds nothing to Toyoko Tokiwa, which is why I am about to remove it.
I do appreciate much of your other work on that article, notably your separation of "references" and "notes". Welcome to the world of Japanese photography (apologies if I didn't notice any earlier contributions by you). Actually I think that Japanese photography is going through a longish period of relative uninterestingness, but excellent work came out just last year (with far less fanfare than what greeted the humdrum work of the hyped), and we can always root around the more distant past and have hope for the future. -- Hoary (talk) 01:39, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- Removing the infobox is detrimental as the whole point of the infobox is to offer a summarization of the most important elements in the article. It's meant to duplicate information in the article (and, in fact, should not contain anything not mentioned in the article). If you have a problem with infoboxes, perhaps you need to open an RfC on whether to exclude them. They are very widely accepted in many different kinds of articles (including biographies of all kinds), so I think you will have an uphill battle. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 04:20, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- Even putting aside the question of the relative importance of elements for a moment, no, the infobox does not summarize elements but instead merely repeats them. Here's one sentence from the article, as it was when it had the infobox:
- Toyoko Tokiwa (常盤 刀洋子) was born in Yokohama on 15 January 1930.
- Here's what the infobox said:
- Birth name 常盤 刀洋子
- Born 15 January 1930 (age 80) Yokohama, Kanagawa Prefecture, Japan
- Unsurprisingly, this isn't as concise as the text. (And anyone who does use it and doesn't happen to be fluent in kanji will be baffled by 常盤 刀洋子. This of course could be fixed, but via more repetition within a "Nihongo" template.)
- Well, it calculates her age for us.
- But let's return to relative importance. Are you saying that your opinion of her work would be unchanged if it were suddenly discovered that no, she was born in Kagawa in 1929? -- Hoary (talk) 00:32, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
- You know, I have know idea why you're so hung up on this, and I have no idea what in the world you are asking in your latest post here. A summary will always repeat information. Always. Your post makes this seem as if it's something new to you, or that you're surprised by this well-known and ancient concept. Infoboxes are an accepted standard in biographical (and many other) articles here. That's a fact. That you don't like them is irrelevant. If you don't think they should be used in biographical (or other) articles here, then pop on over to the Village pump and make your case. Edit warring on this article isn't going to help your case as removing the infobox is considered vandalism. Please stop this stupidity now. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 06:11, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'm here because I look at Hoary's contribs page from time to time. This happens to be a pet peeve of mine. What, I'd love to know, does an infobox add to this article? To any article, actually. It reduces a topic to uncomfortably packaged factoids (which surprisingly often turn out to subvert the truth—round pegs in square holes); it hogs the critical space at the top and precludes the use of a prominent image, flexibly positioned. In its compartmentalisation, it imposes a sameness about WP's treatment of topics. No wonder editors won't allow them on classical music composer pages. Tony (talk) 12:52, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- You know, I have know idea why you're so hung up on this, and I have no idea what in the world you are asking in your latest post here. A summary will always repeat information. Always. Your post makes this seem as if it's something new to you, or that you're surprised by this well-known and ancient concept. Infoboxes are an accepted standard in biographical (and many other) articles here. That's a fact. That you don't like them is irrelevant. If you don't think they should be used in biographical (or other) articles here, then pop on over to the Village pump and make your case. Edit warring on this article isn't going to help your case as removing the infobox is considered vandalism. Please stop this stupidity now. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 06:11, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
- Even putting aside the question of the relative importance of elements for a moment, no, the infobox does not summarize elements but instead merely repeats them. Here's one sentence from the article, as it was when it had the infobox:
Syabi
When I wrote the above, I hadn't been aware of this edit of yours. It's a helpful one; thank you.
It is a little problematic, though. For example, while it wouldn't surprise me to learn that Tamura is represented there (and I think I've read that his namesake is), the article on him doesn't say this. The print that was used for the catalogue cover shown in the article was borrowed from Pentax's camera museum, as were all the prints by Tamura that were shown in that exhibition -- or so we are told on p.282 of this (very handsome) catalogue.
It's tempting just to say that the museum has holdings of work by a number of Japanese and non-Japanese photographers and also every Japanese photographer whose tedious little article here starts robotically with the statement that he or she is or was "a renowned Japanese photographer". (Remember this?) But I suppose we must be civil about the encyclopedia itself, as well as about each other's stylistic and other preferences. -- Hoary (talk) 08:03, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- I reread Tamura's article and found I'd misread it previously. It was a one-time exhibit, not a permanent contribution. I've removed Tamura. Se the section above for more info on why I think it's a good thing to include links to photographers and artists whose works are in the permanent collections of the museum. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 08:52, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for fixing it. Again, I wouldn't be surprised if Tamura were in the collection. The last time I looked, though, there was no online catalogue of holdings or even list of people whose works were there. This information was very patchily available in terminals within the museum. The (Japanese-language-only) 日本写真家事典 = 328 Outstanding Japanese Photographers is effectively a miniature encyclopedia of all the Japanese photographers who were in the collection 11 or more years ago, plus a tiny handful who weren't -- this, I think, is the closest that somebody who's not physically at the museum can get to a catalogue. -- Hoary (talk) 09:27, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
In Comet Egypt
Apparently there were some BLP concerns with the user's name irrepective of WP:RFCUN consensus. See this AN/I. —Jeremy (v^_^v Hyper Combo K.O.!) 08:07, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
- A note on my talk page might have helped avoid this, I am an editor in good standing after all - aren't I? In particular, the wording "the same editor complaining there" jars a bit with my opening words at the RFC/NAME thread of "Posting here for comment" and indeed the entire tenor of my comments in that RFC. The apparent lack of even cursory examination of the history is troubling, since everything needed is right there on the subject editor's talk page. Really, could you talk to me first please? I have user talk and email and everything. (Sorry, I'm a little pissed right now) Franamax (talk) 08:20, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
- I did read the user's talk page and found nothing there which explained why you went against consensus at RFCUN (to me, that talk page is a bit confusing, all around). However, the ANI thread explains the issue much better. I'm sorry if my comment came off as rude as it wasn't intended that way. I was merely trying to point out what I saw as a possible issue. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 17:33, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I think you were right to question what happened and for sure trying to sort through the user talk page and AN/I thread would be a bit daunting to say the least. I certainly was prepared to accept the consensus on the name - except that my initial vague concern turned out to be right in almost the worst way possible, and in my opinion became a direct violation of UNAME which had to be acted on immediately, as there was potential for real-world harm (in the reputational sense, not the physical). It was just a little disconcerting to see the issue pop up at the end of my night and be thinking "geez, didn't you read all 250KB of this crap?". :) My blood pressure is back down now, though I still have a dozen annotated diffs in Notepad I was constructing my defense with. ;) I do understand the basis of your concern though, and if you still do have concerns I'm happy to work through them with you. It was an unfortunate situation and if I could have handled it in a better way I'd like to discover that. Franamax (talk) 22:14, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
- Nope, you're fine. It was just difficult to have to look in several different places to piece together the full story. No worries. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 04:07, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I think you were right to question what happened and for sure trying to sort through the user talk page and AN/I thread would be a bit daunting to say the least. I certainly was prepared to accept the consensus on the name - except that my initial vague concern turned out to be right in almost the worst way possible, and in my opinion became a direct violation of UNAME which had to be acted on immediately, as there was potential for real-world harm (in the reputational sense, not the physical). It was just a little disconcerting to see the issue pop up at the end of my night and be thinking "geez, didn't you read all 250KB of this crap?". :) My blood pressure is back down now, though I still have a dozen annotated diffs in Notepad I was constructing my defense with. ;) I do understand the basis of your concern though, and if you still do have concerns I'm happy to work through them with you. It was an unfortunate situation and if I could have handled it in a better way I'd like to discover that. Franamax (talk) 22:14, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
- I did read the user's talk page and found nothing there which explained why you went against consensus at RFCUN (to me, that talk page is a bit confusing, all around). However, the ANI thread explains the issue much better. I'm sorry if my comment came off as rude as it wasn't intended that way. I was merely trying to point out what I saw as a possible issue. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 17:33, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
- (Comment removed per request, with apologies for its misplacement...) WikiDao ☯ 05:43, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the comments, but this discussion doesn't belong here. If you have a problem with the Username policy, please take it to WT:U. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 05:33, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
CHU question
Hey. About a day ago, you changed Arvin.limpoco.247 → Kuroi.Namida. That was done at 06:41, 13 January 2011. But now I'm seeing that the original username made some edits a bit after that, at 03:07, January 14, 2011 and 3:09. Are they socking, or is this a false positive? — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 13:47, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- I haven't checked, but it could be a SUL thing. Maybe the user forgot to sign out of the old account, and the edits happened here? If it keeps happening, a SPI case could be opened. Anyway, Nihonjoe would probably know more :p demize (t · c) 14:56, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, they forgot to logout before coming here and recreated the account. Just let them know on their talk page and leave it at that unless it becomes abusive. There's no reason to open an SPI case unless they start abusing the second account. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 05:36, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Question regarding CHU
I've seen and dealt with a couple superseded requests, and was wondering if the policy/guide to clerking could possibly be changed to allow clerks to close obviously superseded requests, sort of going along with xeno's comment on Wikipedia talk:Changing username/Simple/Assistance. It would be more convenient for the 'crats, and not too much trouble for the clerks. Not that typing {{Not done}}, superseded ~~~~ is very hard :p Anyway, if you think it would cause too much trouble, that's fine, I just thought it might be helpful. demize (t · c) 15:01, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- That would probably be a question to bring up on the bureaucrat's noticeboard. I don't see a problem with it in general, though there may be some things to sort out before that kind of thing was implemented. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 05:34, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- Hmm, I'm guessing the bot keeps a list of users that it'll pay attention to templates from. Anyway, I'll bring it up at the noticeboard in the morning (er, probably afternoon, but whenever I wake up is morning :p). demize (t · c) 05:56, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- Well, thread started at BN, thought it might be nice to let you know. demize (t · c) 19:27, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 20:37, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
- Well, thread started at BN, thought it might be nice to let you know. demize (t · c) 19:27, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- Hmm, I'm guessing the bot keeps a list of users that it'll pay attention to templates from. Anyway, I'll bring it up at the noticeboard in the morning (er, probably afternoon, but whenever I wake up is morning :p). demize (t · c) 05:56, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Interview
Someone from Deseret News wants to interview me and a couple other Wikipedians from Utah for an article he's writing about Wikipedia's 10th anniversary. If you're interested, let me know, and I'll email you the number. The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs 15:05, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sure, though I won't be available until later in the day tomorrow. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 05:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Transliteration request
Could you double check and make sure that the transliterations are correct at Gosick#Episode list? I used the Kanji Converter tool to transliterate the titles, but have little faith in its accuracy. And if you can, could you also translate the remaining titles? —Farix (t | c) 12:02, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- Done. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 20:51, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Which is appropriate?
Hi! I edited this. But now I'm not sure if it was correct. I thought it was #1 of the list. Should it be #4? Or #5? Please let me know. Oda Mari (talk) 17:23, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
- Based on that MOS, it appears it should be "Sea of Japan (East Sea of Korea)". ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 06:26, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you. I corrected the article. Happy editing! Oda Mari (talk) 07:54, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Second look
Hi! If you have time, I'd be happy if you could have another look at this featured list candidacy. Remarks are added for all treasures so the only outstanding issue are the Image columns. As I wrote, I am not too fond of adding empty columns. Also feedback here was rather negative about adding such columns. Adding image columns later as images become available is not a big deal. Somebody not familiar with table syntax could always ask for help (at wikipedia help, wikiproject Japan, me or any other place). bamse (talk) 22:02, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
- Done. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 06:55, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you. bamse (talk) 23:13, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Merge notice
Hello, I noticed your requested merge for cor pulmonale and pulmonary embolism. These are not identical conditions, as a skim read of cor pulmonale will tell you. You were misled by an erroneous redirect (which I have now fixed). I hope you don't mind that I removed the merge notice. JFW | T@lk 18:52, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- Works for me. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 07:16, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
University of Tokyo
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Online Ambassadors
I saw you have been really active lately and I clicked on over to your user page and was pretty impressed. Would you be interested in helping with the WP:Online_Ambassadors program? It's really a great opportunity to help university students become Wikipedia contributers. I hope you apply to become an ambassador, Sadads (talk) 00:12, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for the invitation, but I have too much on my plate right now. Please keep me in mind for the future. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 05:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
The dispute about romanizations for katakana words of non-Japanese origin has now entered mediation and is currently being talked about in this discussion page section. If you still wish to participate, please join the discussion. Thank you. Prime Blue (talk) 14:08, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm aware of it. I just hadn't made any comment yet as I hadn't felt it was necessary yet. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 16:50, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
You think that Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind is not a part of the Studio Ghibli's films. I understand your point of view but, nowadays, Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind is considered to be a part of Studio Ghibli since without Nausicaä, Studio Ghibli might not exist. Not only it, Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind nowadays belongs to Studio Ghibli (distribution rights, copyright, animators, directors). Please, do not be purist in these terms because Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind is very important for Studio Ghibli. Because if Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind is not in the page of Studio Ghibli, it would remain unhooked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.128.253.83 (talk) 10:08, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not arguing that Studio Ghibli distributes the film, but it was not produced by Studio Ghibli and therefore is not a Studio Ghibli film. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 16:37, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Family tree
Hi, I see you watch family tree. I'm looking for someone to help me create a family tree for Robert Hotung. Would you be able to point me in the right direction, please? --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 08:13, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Are you wanting to research his ancestry or create a tree for display here? ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 08:16, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Originally, I only wanted to create a tree from the English article for display. Now I find that a well-researched version of his family tree of this great family exists. It would be good to have this made into a tree. It's also highly topical at the moment, because of the drama surrounding Stanley Ho, who is related. I'm not used to looking at these diagrams, so any help you could offer to translate that into a wiki-standardised format would be fantastic! Cheers, --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 09:43, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- BTW, I liked your userbox so much I stole it! ;-) --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 09:55, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'm glad you enjoyed it. :) I recommend asking at WikiProject Genealogy as they will likely have someone there who knows how to make those. I've never done it. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 17:04, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 01:52, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for making the name change for me. I'm asking you because you were active a few minutes ago and I think you might be active. Generation of Youth for Christ is experiencing an edit war of sorts atm. There's a person trying to make it promotional in tone and another that is very antagonistic towards it, I reverted quite a few edits and tried to start a discussion on the talk page but I will be in violation of 3RR if I keep on. (They're both putting their edits back in, etc)
I think the page deserves semi-protection, I'm not sure how to ask since there are no 3RR violations, (unless I've reverted more than three times trying to combat the changes and asking for comment in the talk page).
Thanks~
WikiManOne 00:58, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the protection, do you mind rolling the article back to the version it was before the edit war began? The current version violates WP:MISSION, has external links in text and lists that make it seem like a directory. Also, the editors removed third party sources during the edit war and it reads more like a promotional now after the war. WikiManOne 03:29, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- This is the last revert I made to the previous version until I gave up due to the 3RR rule. [1] If you make a rollback, I think that would be the most appropriate one to take it back to. Of course, that is your decision. WikiManOne 03:35, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, protection doesn't work that way. You will need to discuss the issues on the article talk page and then come to a consensus as to how things should be in the article. Then we can talk unprotecting it and making changes. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 03:40, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- I agree, but by locking it down at the version they made after refusing to stop making changes and talk about it, you're just giving them what they want. I tried to discuss with them regarding the changes but they continued to make them anyway. Basically, what I am trying to respectfully say is that you are rewarding them for edit warring and refusing to reach consensus before making the changes, at least to me it seems logical that the article should be taken to the version that existed before two new users showed up and began the unilateral editing. Again, your decision. WikiManOne 03:50, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, protection doesn't work that way. You will need to discuss the issues on the article talk page and then come to a consensus as to how things should be in the article. Then we can talk unprotecting it and making changes. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 03:40, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks (2)
Hi, Thanks for changing my username. How do I merge the old and the new account in the Sister Projects like Commons or Wiktionary? Will it happen automatically or do I have to manually do that? Thanks again --ashwinikalantri talk 05:09, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- You need to request a username change on each of the projects you want to merge into the new username. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 06:41, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- I am unable to find the place to request the change on the other projects. Could you hep me out?--ashwinikalantri talk 08:40, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Same place as here: Wiktionary:Changing username for Wiktionary and Commons:Changing username for Commons. those are the only two where you have edits. You can see the list of them here. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 18:57, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks a million!! You have been such great help! --ashwinikalantri talk 19:49, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- No problem. :) ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 23:36, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks a million!! You have been such great help! --ashwinikalantri talk 19:49, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Same place as here: Wiktionary:Changing username for Wiktionary and Commons:Changing username for Commons. those are the only two where you have edits. You can see the list of them here. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 18:57, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- I am unable to find the place to request the change on the other projects. Could you hep me out?--ashwinikalantri talk 08:40, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Old Account
Is there any way to completely disable the old account? Twice now I've logged in to the old one and accidentally made edits on it without realizing my error. WikiManOne 01:18, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- There's nothing which could be done to prevent you from logging in to it as even blocked editors can still login. Unless you are using multiple accounts on various WMF projects, you shouldn't ever be logging in under the old username. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 01:21, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- Alright, yeah, the reason is I still have "Salegi" as my account on the commons and some of these web-tools connect to the secure server which seems to be automatically logged in as the old account whenever I use commons. I'll figure out something. WikiManOne 01:33, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- You should be able to get your username change there, too. Then the problem will go away. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 01:38, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, I put in a request but they don't seem to be very active... hopefully they will soon. WikiManOne 01:41, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- There are only two uncompleted requests on that page, and both requests were placed today. Also, please don't refactor the formatting here. Thanks! ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 01:50, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- Alright, yeah, the reason is I still have "Salegi" as my account on the commons and some of these web-tools connect to the secure server which seems to be automatically logged in as the old account whenever I use commons. I'll figure out something. WikiManOne 01:33, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Name Change
Thankyou for the prompt username change! [pls feel free to delete this once you've read it. i wont be offended!] Accurate Nuanced Clear (talk) 13:16, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- No problem. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 16:48, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
TeamFREDNET Explanation
Please see the comments/edits I placed regarding renaming login requests. Again, sorry for the confusion. Teamfrednet (talk) 22:39, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
- No problem. Please see the comments there. I keep a pretty close eye on that page, so it's best to keep the conversation all in one place. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 05:58, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Something for you to look at
This IP claims [2] to be the same user who was previously banned from editing, and had a topic ban on Barack Obama and Abortion related articles before that. He is openly admitting to editing from an IP disregarding his previous indefinite ban as well as topic bans by editing a Abortion related article at Planned Parenthood. I fail to see why such flagrant and admitted circumvention of wikipedia policies should be tolerated. (Note, I posted this here cause you're a bureaucrat, I may list it an noticeboard or tell another admin before you respond... but if you respond I will leave it at that and will not raise it anywhere else, that was long, in other words, I'm leaving it up to you, assuming your active and can get to it) WikiManOne 09:14, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- Actually I'm going to notify the banning admin as well, just fyi. WikiManOne 09:23, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- I've blocked the IP only for violating the previous indef block. Looking further into this issue, it seems your request here may have been motivated by your obvious dog in this fight, so please don't do this again. Reports like this (of block evasion) belong on WP:ANI, not here. Thanks! ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 17:47, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- Ok. Thanks. :) WikiManOne 20:23, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- I've blocked the IP only for violating the previous indef block. Looking further into this issue, it seems your request here may have been motivated by your obvious dog in this fight, so please don't do this again. Reports like this (of block evasion) belong on WP:ANI, not here. Thanks! ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 17:47, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
GA reassessment of Lolicon
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article following its nomination for reassessment. You are being notified as you have made a number of contributions to the article. I have found some concerns which you can see at Talk:Lolicon/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 03:08, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Crissov
I'm not sure if I should bring this up on ANI or MOS-JA, so I'll pass it by you first.
Crissov (talk · contribs) has been editing {{gojuon}} to utilize the Nihon-shiki/Kunrei-shiki names of the kana (si, ti, tu, hu) over the Hepburn forms (which he had been told not to do by Unnecessary stuff late last year), and then instituted a separate Hepburn parameter as some sort of compromise (which I've been reverting for the past two months back to the status quo Hepburn only version). Yesterday, he moved Shi (kana), Chi (kana), Fu (kana), and did a cut-paste move with Tsu (kana) to institute his version of the table and utilize the "systematic" names over the Hepburn transcriptions. I just spent a couple of minutes reverting all of his unilateral changes and left him a message on his talk page concerning his edits (my earlier message is because I thought he was utilizing the kana rather than their transcriptions).
Should this be brought to a larger audience, or should we just trust him not to move the pages and reformat the template the way he wants, again?—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 19:36, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- If he continues edit warring, then we can do something about it. Until then, hopefully he'll stop. If he doesn't want to discuss things, then that is an issue. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 06:25, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
International Orange
I was curious as to why you deleted the page about International Orange, I was trying to learn some more about Robert Sledge and hit a dead end.,.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.73.217.249 (talk) 06:48, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International Orange (band). Also, Robert Sledge may be useful. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 06:54, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Kink.com-online streaming
A few days ago, I wrote an addition to the page kink.com. It involved their streaming of a person losing their vaginal virginity live on the internet. It has been removed as advertising. However, I think if it were advertising, it would have been posted before the event. I am not affiliated or employed by that website, but I thought it was newsworthy. Even if its legitimacy were in doubt, just kinks claim of doing this is newsworthy in the world of porn. If porn has a place on wiki, my addition deserves to be there. If not, I don't see that any porn should be on there. I might add, the person who contacted you, has been trying for some time to censor any news about Nicki Blue, claiming he knows her, but giving no proof of that. Please tell me what I can do to get something of my article back? There are many more sources I could cite on this event, but due to time, I only gave one initially. Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.32.246.99 (talk • contribs) 01:40, 10 February 2011
- I have no idea what you are talking about. Do you have a diff or a link to the article in question? ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 06:39, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi Nihonjoe. You are listed in Category:Translators ja-en. Would you look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yutaka Hara and comment on whether the Japanese sources in this Google News Archive search provide enough coverage of Yutaka Hara to establish notability? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 22:56, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- This one, this one, and this one would help establish notability. This one could be supporting, but not one which helps with notability. This one would help with both Kaiketsu Zorori and Sgt. Frog. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 04:47, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for your invaluable research which has saved this article from possible deletion. Cunard (talk) 10:12, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Misc translations
I noticed your offer on the RS page. One of my challenges in Eva writing is, unsurprisingly, untranslated materials. For example, I've known for the past 5 years that Hideaki Anno did an interview on Top Runner where he said that the religious references in Neon Genesis Evangelion were 'pedantry', but though the transcript is available, no translation is available. (Google Translate is just good enough for me to verify that that page probably is what it's supposed to be.)
So, I was wondering whether the offer extends to material that might not be used on Wikipedia; if it isn't, do you freelance? (For example, a translation of all the transcripts would be worth a good $50 to me, and I think a translation of just that specific section would be worth at least $10-20 to me.) --Gwern (contribs) 16:26 28 September 2010 (GMT)
- I will see what I can do. Feel free to email me more info, but please note that I will be busy for the next couple weeks due to helping to run a local anime convention which begins next week. I don't know that you need to pay me, but if you insist, I'm sure I'll be fine with it. :p ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 04:35, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
- Alright, then I will follow up in 2 weeks or so. --Gwern (contribs) 18:19 29 September 2010 (GMT)
- Any further thoughts on this now that the con is over? --Gwern (contribs) 18:17 14 October 2010 (GMT)
- I've thought a little further about it. I could do the obvious thing and just pay you or donate to the Foundation (say $30 a page), or we could barter instead. A few things I thought of:
- For every page, I could do 500-1000 disambiguations of your choice. I have a lot of experience with using Pywikipedia to do disambiguations, so this would be straightforward for me to do.
- Or perhaps I could clean up 20 or 30 CSE searches (presumably search queries related to articles you want to look for references for)
- Or in the same vein, you probably have a bunch of online references already that you haven't gotten around to reading and inserting appropriate quotes from in articles; 30 or 40 of those would be a fair trade for a translated page, I think.
- Or perhaps copyediting of articles instead (I flatter myself that I'm a very good writer)
- Or heck, maybe there's something useful I can do for you on WP that I haven't thought of. Point is, if discussion of money was bothering you, there are alternatives. I'm sure we can reach a mutually beneficial arrangement. :) --Gwern (contribs) 18:51 12 February 2011 (GMT)
- I think the main issue right now is the lack of time to do the translations. I will see what I can do about the Anno interview, though. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 01:44, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- Or heck, maybe there's something useful I can do for you on WP that I haven't thought of. Point is, if discussion of money was bothering you, there are alternatives. I'm sure we can reach a mutually beneficial arrangement. :) --Gwern (contribs) 18:51 12 February 2011 (GMT)
Japanese text in prose (on video game pages)
Would you mind taking a look at this mess? Apparently, using {{nihongo}} in prose is a violation of WP:NOTDIR and my translation of バトルサブウェイ into "Battle Subway" is considered original research.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 00:18, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- The ref provided for the "Battle Subway" translation indicates it's a battle (or set of battles) which occur(s) in a subway. A couple of the pictures show people riding in a subway. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 00:26, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- What about the suggestion that the use of {{nihongo}} inline is WP:GAMECRUFT?—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 00:35, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- That's a load of bollocks. Use of the template is not ever GAMECRUFT in and of itself; however, I can see how having the Japanese for every instance of introducing something new could be cumbersome. At most, it should only be used once per Japanese word, and any subsequent uses of the same word should not include the Japanese per WP:MOS-JA. It might be good to create a list of fictional locations and characters in the game and have the Japanese listed only there, though, in order to reduce the amount of Japanese in the article. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 03:30, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Now Prime Blue has taken to calling the Japanese text of the proper nouns as violations of WP:NOTDIR as it is "a complete exposition of all possible details" and a violation of WP:IINFO as it is an "indiscriminate collection of information", in addition to calling into question my behaviors outside of this dispute and an article I am working on that most definitely has a lot of {{nihongo}} but that is because there are a lot of Japanese proper nouns and terms of art.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 22:00, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- That's a load of bollocks. Use of the template is not ever GAMECRUFT in and of itself; however, I can see how having the Japanese for every instance of introducing something new could be cumbersome. At most, it should only be used once per Japanese word, and any subsequent uses of the same word should not include the Japanese per WP:MOS-JA. It might be good to create a list of fictional locations and characters in the game and have the Japanese listed only there, though, in order to reduce the amount of Japanese in the article. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 03:30, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- What about the suggestion that the use of {{nihongo}} inline is WP:GAMECRUFT?—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 00:35, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Interac (Japan)
I'm trying to improve this page. As it is, it's a mash of rumor, misinformation, and stuff from the General Union. I'm more than willing to get sources to improve the page quality so that it makes it into the Japan Project and the Education Project. I'd appreciate any helpKeroroGunso (talk) 01:03, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Russian IPs vandalizing
Hello. This is unrelated to the IP-hopping Indonesian misinformation vandal, but you should anyway check the following IPs, all of which are trying to put "anime" hoaxes and other misinformation and "connections" to the Philippine cartoon, Super Inggo at ang Super Tropa. I've also noted that users of these addresses (possibly a single person) have also put unsourced information and categories on other unrelated anime articles and several others. Here are the addresses I found so far (he may have used more):
- 92.100.237.11 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 92.100.178.61 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 92.100.161.170 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 92.100.182.39 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 92.100.177.214 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 92.100.238.160 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 92.100.176.43 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 92.100.169.199 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 92.100.175.99 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 92.100.179.158 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 92.100.178.40 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 91.122.87.45 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 91.122.89.81 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
To top this all off, these addresses are based in Russia. So obviously, the vandal surely couldn't provide sources for his edits as the said cartoon (if I'm not mistaken) has not been aired out of the Philippines.
So what do you think? Can a block be imposed on either or both of the 92.100.128.0/17 and 91.122.80.0/20 ranges? It seems the addresses are assigned to the same provider. Thanks in advance. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 16:37, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry for the slow response. At this point, the best thing to do in cases like this is to report this information to WP:AIV as you will get a much quicker response there. I don't think we can block those large ranges in this case, however. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 17:47, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Brewing edit-war
Sigh... After you locked Senkaku Islands dispute, it appears a pre-edit-war is occurring in Senkaku Islands. Check out the history page (just look at Feb 22-23, 2011). They are now fighting over whether to put a POV tag onto the page. It would be nice if you give out a few warnings or do something about it. Thanks. Bobthefish2 (talk) 18:40, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
The article Studio Pierrot magical girl series has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- This is mostly original research and there are no indication by reliable sources that Studio Pierrot's magical girl shows are notable as a group. Also, Studio Pierrot produces anime series from many different types of genres. The few facts that are in the article are based on primary sources, thus failing WP:V.
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will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. —Farix (t | c) 12:38, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
WP Japan in the Signpost
"WikiProject Report" would like to focus on WikiProject Japan for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Other editors will also have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 04:03, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
- The Signpost article on WP Japan is scheduled to run this Monday. In light of the recent earthquake, is there anything else you'd like to request from our readers? If so, feel free to add the new information to the "anything else" section of the interview. -Mabeenot (talk) 17:47, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
RFC/U on Tenmei
As an editor who has interacted with User:Tenmei on the Senkaku Islands pages (primarily through your adminstrative actions on those pages, I think), I would like to inform you that I have filed a Request for comment on user conduct of Tenmei. You may read that RFC/U at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Tenmei, and are welcome to comment on it as explained at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct/Guidance2 once it has been certified. Qwyrxian (talk) 06:21, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- Also, for clarification, your name is mentioned in the RFC/U based on actions you took at Foreign relations of Japan. Qwyrxian (talk) 06:22, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Tenmei
Hi. If you are still acting as Tenmei's mentor you might want to look at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Tenmei. Taemyr (talk) 08:28, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Template:Anime by decade category header has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. — This, that, and the other (talk) 09:22, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Quick RS check
I've come across a problem on lolicon where a Japanese source is being used to advance a particularly strong claim, and I'm uncertain as to whether it is a RS. Could you please take a look at Talk:Lolicon#Original_research_problem and give your opinion? Thanks. --Malkinann (talk) 19:54, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
- Done ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 20:19, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. :) So now the problem remains... is that what the source is saying? --Malkinann (talk) 21:46, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Name Change Reply
Hi. I'm not sure exactly how to reply, but I saw your message, and yes, I am indeed aware of any potential problems with using my real name. I do not mind the change,
Old username: Jonathan360
New username JonathanK81
I listed the names, because again, I'm not really sure where I can go to reply to your question. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonathan360 (talk • contribs) 06:44, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
Template updating
- Template:2011 Sendai earthquake and tsunami casualties dead
- Template:2011 Sendai earthquake and tsunami casualties missing
- こんばんは, NJ. Could I pass the baton of updating and watching over these two templates to you until 10 hours later? I need to grab some shut-eye, thanks and best. ありがとう~! --Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 17:06, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)I'd love to help, but I'm off to work in a few minutes and I don't have access to edit from work. Perhaps Hoary would be able to help? I'll certainly watch them again once I get back. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 17:10, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
Possible imposter?
Kubo Tite (talk · contribs) has been adding unsourced information into Eiichiro Oda that the latter was killed in yesterday's earthquake. But I seriously doubt that this is the real Tite Kubo, especially give the editor changing "One Piece" to "Wan Piss". —Farix (t | c) 21:31, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
- Looks like someone blocked him. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 08:00, 12 March 2011 (UTC)